who is there with us, there is only one of us there, and i don't know, maybe there are some other andrii, but andrii yermak was the first to sound the alarm, and the people there said that, yes, indeed, we somehow did not pay attention, there is such a problem, and here it is, it was somewhere there several months ago, as a result we have a typical ukrainian situation, which i can say that it is clear to me that the release of the industrious... it is only a matter of time, i think this is understood both in the west and i saw there that you asked the guest if the event could somehow slow it down or affect it, uh, it's already an irreversible process, it is like metastases of cancer in the body, when the president does not have a relationship with golovko or. two people

, for the first time we have a situation when the president is the president of a country in a state of war, so it's not just some formal things, politically, the president has all the opportunities and powers to release anyone in his orbit and even outside his orbit, we have built such a model of government, and it is obvious that there will be no such effective cooperation, there will be some... pause, and then everything will be fine, everything will be fine, the release will take place, we remember history, when decisions were made about the resignation of his subordinates, for example, without his knowledge, without his knowledge, this same story has been going on for quite a long time, it is very unhealthy, but here, as they say, there is no such thing, we have such a management structure in the country, we have such...

we don't have balance sheets, and public opinion here can delay the process somewhat, but we all have powerful teams of pr people, and all their energy will be directed to simply, well, cover with an umbrella from the criticism of their boss and transfer criticism somewhere else field, well, i’m here, what else is special about the hard-working, well, because his image is... so quite, well, so mythical a little, because he is not a public person, we don’t know, the military may know, but we don’t know, the citizens who are now support zaluzhnyi , they have no idea what kind of public politician he will be , because he has never been a public politician, and i don't know this, and you don't know this, but it seems that zaluzhnyi will not have much of a choice, because there will be an attempt to .. to destroy his

image, and i always remember the situation there between yushchenko and kuchma, when yushchenko was there crazy rating and everyone in the national bank was worried that kuchma would not forgive this, kuchma wanted to destroy this lease, he appointed yushchenko as prime minister, but it ended, you know how, that is, from the point of view of those boys and girls at the bank, it is dangerous to play such things, because ukrainian voters, the sympathy of ukrainian voters is always on the side of those... whom you want to slander and against whom you conduct such, you know, a devastating campaign to destroy the image, but it seems that this process has already gone and his , i think that it is impossible to stop him, but here, mr. oleg, we are talking about, well, not only about the political future or about the politician of the industrious, but we are talking about the future of ukraine, because the current history with the industrious is being dispersed by russian propagandists and they are trying to use... as they say in

the institute for the study of war of the united states of america for a series of information operations about internal affairs of ukraine, that is, of course, this story will be used by the russians in order to split society in order to say, look, president zelenskyi dismissed a hard-working person, and for a hard-working person, 80% of citizens there or 70% there citizens, and this will be a reason. there is nothing more to do there, of course there is martial law, radical people, to express something or no one will go to the square, but still this is the story, why, why can’t the same president zelenskyi, his team, why can’t they these political jealousies, which, if they exist, should be pushed away, or, if there are specific claims against the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine.

then to say: well, listen, we want that, or we, we, we there believe that he is not doing that, or they do not have enough competence for that for this, is it enough only to disperse this whole. history and well, in fact , for six months, we have been watching this series there , maryan bezugla against the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, or zelensky's version of maryan and valer? well, the questions to which the answer is obvious, the short answer is yes, there is no competence , no understanding, no responsibility, no strategic thinking, but... was it difficult to calculate the consequences, well, the consequences were obvious, i don't think they are that much, because it zelensky's team is this a team of informants, these are daily temperature measurements, a thunder of public opinion polls, there is a launch

of a trial launch of information there, they the reaction was predicted, and the reaction is like that, but you see , it looks like... well, it is, for example, how absolutely stupid it was when zelensky fought with poroshenko, who had already lost everything politically, when there was a court not far from me, and there i heard these rallies with loudspeakers every day, because from the point of view of politics, well, this is huge, why, why are you doing this, this it is obviously a germinating situation, but they talked about personal ambitions, personal likes. antipathy, i again, i do not know what is happening there, but it is clear to me that without the personal position, these personal phobias, emotions, well, these personalities of the president, the situation would not have gone as it did, and his entourage,

which is selected and there is already ermakized completely, it doesn't want to say anything that it doesn't like, annoyed the president, and this is the most flawed policy, because such a construction always leads to defeat, because strong people leave, there are only idiots who tell you what you want to hear, and in as a result, such a team is just flying tartararas, and god would be with them, but we are talking for sure, we are talking about the fact that this is ukraine now, there is a war, such stakes, such responsibility, such a level of threat, and that's all.. . this war of frogs with vipers, against this background, mr. oleg, this whole story unfolds in the united states of america, that is , the election campaign, which was imposed on the absence of a decision of the congress of the united states of america to provide ukraine

with financial assistance in the amount of 61 billion dollars, of course, what trump is now is trying to outplay biden and talk about the fact that... "i will come to power, in 24 hours i will end the war, because i know both putin and zelensky very well, trump says that nato would never help the united states of america, in order for someone to attack the united states of america, well, that is, there is now such a big informational pump-up in the united states of america, or at all, what is happening in ukraine, what is happening in the russian-ukrainian war and". like this election campaign, which we are already watching, including in the state of texas, like will it be affected by the general situation in ukraine and the russian-ukrainian war? well, we can say that exactly what

is happening yesterday, today, all these news and dances with bubn around zaluzhnyi, do not add to the supporters of support for ukraine and do not simplify, do not push... push a positive decision of the congress, because those who would would not like to give weapons to ukraine to ukraine, see, the trumpists have taken root, for them it is, well, it is just an obvious argument, and it must be said that russia is also working very hard there, russia is working to add fuel to the fire as much as possible internal ukrainian events, and of course all agents of russian influence, there are all kinds of her fox news. and congressmen who, well, who do not hide the fact that they work for the interests and sympathize with putin, they receive additional arguments, but in general there appeared, well, there, in which certain

positive, positive information appeared, which where the republicans are talking about the fact that they say we are greatly overestimating and with ... increasing or giving too much attention to trump's ability to influence, because a number of western publications, you know, said that trump personally is calling congressmen, that is... nators in order not to miss the signing of this agreement, and secondly, there are already polls that show that 53% of republican voters do not want and will not vote for trump, and somewhere else 18 percent doubt it, but i don’t know, there are a lot of sociological opinion polls, i’m afraid that it would be some kind of, well, not a deep enough sample, but it is clear that trump will be nominated by the republican party without any obstacles, but his chances of a

victory become more and more problematic, and as the experts write, he has actually already used all his arguments, he used all these arguments in the primaries at the first candidate screenings, where he won there with a margin, but his task is not no no no primaries... no no just to become the republican candidate, his job is to win over the american voter, and a lot of republicans , republicans who have always voted for the party say, we're for trump, if he goes to the finals against biden, we'll never vote, and that's why it's makes the situation well, not so tragic or not so threatening for ukraine, although for ukraine. we in ukraine should think about plan b, now this plan b is the opportunity to use

part of the frozen assets both in the united states and in europe, now they are talking about it, the europeans are talking about the fact that it is possible to use those percentages from taxation there, but this there will be billions of dollars, but the main thing is that plan b is being actively thought about, and the main thing is that the europeans also realized that this is a war in the european theater, it is a threat european content. and they cannot fully count on the constant and reliable support of the united states, here the united states has already suffered certain losses in geopolitics and in the confidence of allies in their ability to come to the rescue when needed. at a time when trump talks about the fact that he will do everything for peace in ukraine and that he will reconcile. he says putin and zelensky, prime minister of hungary viktor orbán declared that

mir has a name donald trump, sang odes to trump, although trump had previously confused him with erdogan, or erdogan and orban, well, that is , trump has problems with geography, obviously, and with the leaders of european states, so exactly, against this background, we can see. as the far-right in hungary and romania began to talk about encroachment on ukrainian lands, well, one of the leaders of the far-right alliance for the union of romania , claudio tarziu, announced territorial claims to the ukrainian lands of northern bukovina, transcarpathia, bessarabia, as well as all of moldova. at the same time, the leader of the far-right hungarian party, lászló toratskaya, said that his party as a single hungarian party will claim ukrainian transcarpathia in the event of... losing ukraine and statehood as a result of the war. in parallel, two statements that

came out from the far-right in hungary and romania, almost at the same time, what does this indicate, who is coordinating the actions of these far-right in europe? in europe, this, this , this is the work of the good old, there is the kgb, and the fsb, all of them are ultra-right, since the soviet times, in... the chaplaincy, the ultra-left, the radical forces, the so-called black international there, this has always been a special sphere the work of the special services of the soviet union and now the fsb, and putin does not hide this, they were financed, probably still are financed by these services, but it appeared at the very moment when she was shaken by this confidence that the west... can give an adequate assessment of putin's actions, this attempt, ah, to avoid escalation

, to try to find some search for dialogue, when putin was simply violating international law as he wanted, the dictators got the feeling that now is their moment, when they will determine the new world order, they are faster, now putin is. will go there to north korea and they won't be there for months to talk about some specifics, to coordinate something, they met, agreed, on the second day korea gives more there equipped. and missiles than the entire european continent together with the americans, and we are still witnessing the ongoing negotiations, consultations, and this is obvious, an obvious challenge for the system of democracy, because it is slower, some european politicians understand this, the germans have begun to understand this, this british

politicians began to understand great britain, great britain, france understands it, that is, that is why the european powers. began to react much faster, increased military spending , conducted the largest maneuvers, nato training, in case of a potential or possible attack by russia, the germans transferred their troops for the first time in history after the second world war at the invitation of the baltic countries, the americans are also transferred nuclear weapons for the first time to great britain, this is all a reaction and... the readiness of the europeans to demonstrate very clearly to putin that there are red lines, and he does not define them, he must understand that there is also power in the world, there are nuclear weapons, there is a readiness to fight, and the western politicians began to prepare their citizens, their voters for the fact that a war with russia,

a nato war with russia is a possible scenario, and they are very worried that they are just... for several years, they are not ready for this scenario, but on the other hand, it helps ukraine to be heard, because we say: give us weapons and you will not have to fight on your territory, your soldiers will not have to die in the war with russia, give us weapons and we will end this war within the borders of ukraine. mr. oleg, another issue related to hungary is the future aid from the european union on 50 billion. euro and orbán has seemingly confirmed that he will unblock this aid on february 1st in the european union they have a decision to make such a decision, but what we have observed over the past few days, we have seen how the minister of foreign affairs of hungary and ukraine,

peter szijjártó and kuleba together with... the head of the office of the president of ukraine met and tried to agree in uzhgorod on how to conduct an audit of ukrainian-hungarian relations, regarding laws that were passed in 2015, regarding hungarian minorities, hungarians who are in transcarpathia, minister kuleba said that the parties agreed to create a special commission in order to solve 11 problematic issues that are... between the two states, let's listen to what kuleba said. we received this list, and we agreed that under the auspices of the two ministries of foreign affairs, we will assemble a special commission, which has one very simple task: in 10 days, it must

present a concrete understanding to the governments of both countries. how and what of the list of questions we received needs to be resolved, or has already been resolved, in order for us to provide final clarity, i.e. if we moved earlier on the issue of national minorities in the context of making a decision on ukraine's membership in the eu, now we want to have this discussion on a bilateral level. mr. olezh, orban and hungary - is this a problem of ukraine or is it a problem of the european union? this is the problem of the european union , and of ukraine, which aspires to be a member of the european union, but there is no question of any restoration of the atmosphere of trust, because both siarto and orban are, well, this has long been tested by time,

well, if not idlers, then posipaks putin, they, they are not stupid people. they are perfectly informed, but they can never be to take the friends of ukraine to the camp and count on the fact that it is possible to have some kind of commission there, some 10 points, 11 points, but that is not the question, it reminds me very much of the situation in the american congress, when it seems to be talking about what should to find a compromise, and then trump steps in and says that nothing can be done, i will come, become the president, i will decide everything, this is orban's situation, orban for... wants to play the ukrainian card in the future, and not the resolution of bilateral issues by this commission forces orbán to be condescending because he, he overplayed, he, he, he... he brought the europeans to the point, to the boiling point, when they decided that if he tried to blackmail,

bully and veto the commission's decision there again, he would suffer economic losses, and they are ready close, the european union is ready close to deliver such a powerful blow to the economy of hungary, in particular , from the crediting opportunity blocked there. on european on european interest machines, or simply take away his right to vote, and he sees that poland, which was this reliable ally, because there decisions are made unanimously, she left, tusk is orban's nightmare, because tusk has known orban for 12 years, and he pokes his nose into his bad affairs there quite publicly like a scumbag cat, and fico, well, he is an unreliable partner, so that fico himself... in a difficult financial situation, he will not go to the extent of opposing himself to the entire european union, so these signals that we hear, yes, we, probably, our diplomats give

orbán the opportunity to keep him, that, well, keep the muzzle of his face in front of his own voters, and to present something there, how he defended the interests of hungarians there, achieved his goal , showed something there, although we have to understand that politicians like orbán and fico, them and szijjártó, they cannot be forgiven for what they do , because those publications are like that, that's how they behave, well, i don't know who behaves like that, when a few days before the visit you can make such statements, as fizo did, or make such statements, which siarto makes and the same orban, and i guarantee you that you and i will hear all this nonsense about the kremlin more than once, which will come from the mouths of orbán and sierto, they are not friends, they are not partners, and in fact they do not fit into this team game of the european union. the european union is getting closer

to making it impossible in the future for similar members of their union to behave the way orbán or fitso allows themselves. the european union is in the process of this wave of expansion, they have been consulting for a long time, and they want to find a formula that will make such behavior impossible. another president or leader of the state is the self-proclaimed president oleksandr lukashenko met with putin this week and said that russia provides belarus with many opportunities, regretting that ukraine and the baltic countries are moving in a different direction. let's listen to what lukashenko said. i am projecting, but what prevented ukraine and the baltic countries from working with us in this way? this is our world. we built it for several decades, we won together in... this terrible war, well, let's move in this direction, no, we don't want to, they are looking for a better life across the seas, mr. oleg, the very end of our conversation, i am talking about lukashenko

wanted to hear, he has already come to terms with the fact that he is a fellow student of putin's war against ukraine and that's all, well, yes, he confidently steps forward with his head turned back. he, like putin, is stuck in that system of the soviet union and wonders why no one else wants to return to such a glorious past, and it turns out that this economic union and military union are actually falling apart, there is no formula for an attractive future that could to offer moscow there, and lukashenko simply dissolved there, he is actually not on what not well, but he is trying to play some role there, and here the question is, what to do in ukraine, we are in diplomatic relations with belarus, or should these relations

be terminated, or somehow indicate that the leader of this country and this country have played a bad role, a negative role, a hostile role since february 24 , 2022, lukashenko should be on the dock. together with putin there are, but when the war ends and there will be an investigation of its criminals who led to this war and who simply led to huge human sacrifices and losses, then in lukashenko fits in very well there, and he understands it, and he, he has already lost the opportunity, he used to somehow maneuver there, flirted with the poles, then with the ba'. and now putin has taken this opportunity away from him, or he himself, or virtually from him, it is already completely in the past, and he understands that responsibility cannot be avoided.

therefore, he is either a master here, or he is lost, and since he cannot be a master, he is guaranteed to be lost. thank you, mr. oleg, for the conversation, it was oleg rybachuk, politician, former vice-prime minister of ukraine from the european integration, there are discounts on amicitron, 20% in pharmacies plantain, memory and savings. there are discounts on toosmai, 15% in pharmacies, plantain, pam. oshchat: a separate platoon of unmanned air systems sapsan of the state special service of transport. we appeal to the viewers of the tv channel to join the collection of crown funds and technical equipment for our unit. thank you, glory to ukraine!

hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is the shipping district, kherson. turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing on weekdays at 9:00. vasyl winter's big broadcast. two hours of air time, two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what the world is about. two hours to keep up with economic and sports news. two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like relatives to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio. events of the day in

two hours. big. vasyl zima's broadcast, a project for intelligent and caring people, in the evening at espresso.

congratulations, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the verdict program, this is the second part of our today's issue, my name is serhii rudenko, today in the program. ukraine is threatened by a parliamentary crisis, the government rejects the idea of ​​a government of national unity, is a broad coalition possible in the verkhovna rada. personnel rotations in the military leadership are still postponed, who needs the resignation of the head of the zsu zaluzhnyi. freedom of the press is under threat. ambassadors of the big seven talked with the ukrainian media community. who will be responsible for the pressure on the journalist?