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friends, this is the verdict program , my name is serhii rudenko, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us there, please do not be stingy, please put a favorite for that , to promote this video on these platforms, and subscribe to our pages on these platforms, in addition, take part in our survey, today we ask you about such things, do you trust the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, yes , no, everything is fine on youtube. just yes button, no button or write your comment under this video. if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phones and vote. if you trust the lousy 0800-211-381, no 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, call. i would like to remind you that today we have people's deputies of ukraine viktoria syumar, mykyta poturaev and yaroslav zheliznyak on the air. i thank them for participation in this program. and for the fact that they

are sharing their thoughts with us this late evening, and of course, ladies and gentlemen, i have to ask you about what is happening now in parliament, because after harahamiya said that people are fleeing or wanting to flee from the faction, 17 people's deputies of ukraine and that this can lead to a parliamentary crisis, to be honest, i can't help but understand how it is, if even 20 people leave the service. people, why is it called a parliamentary crisis, well, 20 people will go, there are 10 people in favor the lists will go, they will come with the following , following the list, 300 deputies will in any case be in order to make various decisions that are necessary, why, why the parliamentary crisis, the crisis is possible in the service of the people, that there will not be enough people, who came for majority constituencies, maybe you know a little more, victoria? you

ask me about the servant of the people, what is going on? i understand that the problem of monomajority, monocoalition, it really already exists now, it is really becoming more difficult to gather votes, i think. the related position of the leader of the faction of mr arakhamia, who began to publicize this, because frankly, my colleagues have little reason to be tired, forgive me, i do not think that now the ukrainian parliament works in the mode when everyone simply put their hands and feet to work, unfortunately, probably, this is not even a parliamentary decision, and the parliament could be much more active in these conditions, thank god, but right now i... i was busy reading the new draft law on mobilization, it literally appeared there half an hour ago parliamentary website, government it was finally introduced in the evening in the verkhovna rada, there a number of positions are much better than they were in the previous, in the previous versions of this draft law, at least disabled people of all

groups, including the third group, are not planned to be called up, but they are planning to introduce an electronic office conscript, so we will discuss, we will... work, here we are, the position of our political power, everything that is needed for european, for euro-atlantic integration, everything that is our ideological promises to our voters, we will always support, we will not to support things that will complicate the situation, today's business, we cannot and will never support unconstitutional things, those things in which there are corruption risks, and this is the position we hold today in the parliament, and i hope... that the parliament will still realize his level of responsibility to the country during the war, it is not for nothing that the law on martial law prohibits holding elections during the period of martial law, namely parliamentary elections, i emphasize this, and it is probably about the fact that a legislator, strictly speaking, from those first

convocations, he established a high level of responsibility of the parliament in the most difficult crisis and historical situations for ukrainian society, as it has already happened in our history. in 2004 and in 2014, so we must be worthy of the trust that ukrainians still gave to today's people's deputies, for me to hear these numbers is wild. thank you, mr. yaroslav, perhaps, well, we will get to nikita poturaev at the very end, under the curtain, so that he would explain that is happening there, i want to hear the very first versions of your colleagues and victoria syumara, yaroslav zheleznyak. well, what crisis are we talking about, or will there be this crisis, or will there not be this crisis, let me give an answer ahead of time, i think the same thing for a minute, look, all three of us know david arrakhan very well, what can we say about him for sure to say that accuracy

in numbers is not his strong point, there are no 17, 117, 1117 deputies, if you were there, you would have asked at the same time how many deputies, i am sure that the number would would differ in the other direction, i know of one case, and well, i have every feeling that i am correct in my assessment now and maybe even exaggerating a little, and that is why there is no crisis, there is no flow of deputies who want to draft a mandate. there is nothing terrible, even if there was such a flow of deputies, because other people simply enter the list. in the parliament, well, quite a large number of laws are passed not just by a majority, but by a constitutional majority. despite the fact

that we like to criticize each other sometimes on airwaves and even in the hall of the parliament, but everyone supports those decisions about... statesmanship that are needed, especially with regard to military topics, it seems to me that 95% of them are accepted by the constitutional majority, so i would close this topic on that , and if you want proof of my words, which is not exactly a strong point in the figures of the head of the coalition, remember his own forecast, when the law on mobilization will be introduced, i will remind you, it was on january 25, but only victoria mentioned that only but on january 30, the bill was introduced, so don't apply attention, believe me, save more nerves and strength. thank you, mr. nikita, and well,

i will say that i have not seen these 17 statements, i think that in principle, if they exist, no one except... has seen them either, well, in principle, i agree with my colleagues , what if people even start to compose their own of their own accord. attention, well, the parliament is not threatened with a crisis of existence as such, yes , because it really is, so, well, if the majoritarians are going to leave the parliament, it is unpleasant, because there is no one to replace the majoritarian, if they are on the list, then it is clear that the list is simply advances and the problem is solved, well, i 'd better tell you, then, such a conversation in which i participated so recently, then this does not apply at all. means davyd georgiyovych and 17 statements, i won’t even say who took part in that conversation, and

it’s not a hint that arachami was there, but the conversation was about this, i think you will understand that, in fact, we indeed, as yaroslav just said, we adopt very good laws with a very frequent constitutional majority, when we agree, we generally have 300 plus on the scoreboard, and for according to the calculations of our public there... analytical centers, we have a lot of reform laws, really good ones, those that are european integration, and those that are macro-financial and so on, but no one likes us, well, in general, that means everyone is in social networks, that means they are training, who will say worse things about the deputies there, we are all cridias there, we are all doing nothing, we all need to go to the front, the conversation was about the fact that no one advocates for us , so we pass good laws, that means together with western partners, well, at least someone would say a good word about the parliament, that means, in principle

, all experts of ukrainian society say that yes , they have good laws, they are really good people there, but somehow civil society does not protect us very much. the media, so, well, too, so it seems that not so many parliamentarians are protected, everyone, no, no, no, it doesn’t matter which faction, but if they did, then they would imagine that tomorrow the parliament will just be like that will be offended and disband, and so... they will be left without a parliament, which means they will be left alone with a government and a president, and there is no one else in the parliament, well, it was like that, so, well, really with humor, so, well, a conversation about you know this, so a network network assumption, so such a thought experiment, so you know, here is actually, if we talk about a parliamentary crisis. then i would speak exclusively from this angle, yes, because victoria is not entirely right, in

every parliament there are people who work there quite a few, i, for example, with the law on religious organizations, i worked with colleagues on saturdays and on sunday, that is, the last ones, which means well, that is, there are people who work a lot, and we are all people, meaning that in session mode, this parliament meets once every two weeks, and this is actually unique. which will be submitted to the behavioral meeting, there are many laws and zavitnevich and makrafin laws , so listen, we are working together, we are all working together on many, many useful laws, i am sorry for the last convocation. it was not there, we were working in the convocation, you had a buttonhole in the last convocation, but

we do not have it in our joint convocation, so, that's why the efficiency suffers a little, maybe due to the lack of button pressing, but nevertheless, i see that maybe you just need to work every day, well, in session mode, everything is fine, look, this, i don't think that this is a change, because according to the total number of days we work, it actually corresponds. to the pre-war period, that means, sorry, colleagues, i am you , but what am i talking about, a person who was in both convocations, we are all living people, and we work, and no, it does not matter who is in the opposition, who is in power, we, we really do, well, a lot of useful things and things that are necessary for us as living people would like to have someone say a good word about us from time to time, we will not get such a thing, and boxing. this is it, mr. nikita, we have to finish our program, i have to say kind, kind words to you, but

look, this is the izpress tv channel, probably the only tv channel where representatives of all factions, well , the main factions, both pro-government and opposition, and can discuss, but we were kicked out of t2, that is, two years ago, no one wants to return, we do not understand at all what... is happening, yesterday journalists met with ambassadors of the big seven, talked about what is happening in the country, your absolute capabilities, to protect journalists, to do... to the maximum to show that ukraine is a democratic state, do everything to ensure that journalists have access to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, to deputies, to decisions, then we will say that we really have excellent deputies, and we can speak well of them. nikita poturaev, yaroslav zheleznyak, victoria

syumar were guests of our program today. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. during our program we conducted a survey. we asked you about this, do you trust the diligent? 94% yes, 6% - no, it 's on tv, on youtube 96% yes, and four don't trust it, that's the ratio of numbers, i'm putting an end to it, this is a verdict program, directed by serhii rudenko, i say goodbye to you, see you tomorrow 200, bye. good evening, we are from ukraine, i greet you, dear tv viewers , i am glad to see you, my name is vasyl zima, this is the velikiy eter program on the espresso tv channel , and for the next hour and 47 minutes, i and my colleagues will talk with you about the most important and usual thing is to involve experts in

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will be closed, and if we collect even more, then, as they say, we will transfer the money to a new collection, the needs are enough, but... we understand that war cannot be otherwise, so we join. we are starting our conversation, today we will talk about the situation in the kherson region, which the enemy was fighting quite actively, unfortunately, there are casualties, and come on, well, we should have listened to the military there, but i think i have already said enough told, tomorrow we will listen again, we have to collect a million hryvnias, we will definitely collect, and now yuriy sopolevskyi, the first deputy. the kherson regional council is in touch with us, mr. yury, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, word. in fact, during the day , the enemy shelled the kherson region 272 times, in the beryslav region there was a hit on the point of invincibility, and there was also an attack on one more community, i read later, a lathe in the kherson region.

please tell me, in general, about today, this last day and, for now, the consequences. yes, well, unfortunately, the shelling continues, the same weapons systems that the enemies used before, unfortunately, they still have the opportunity to use them now, including heavy weapons, these are mostly unguided weapons, they work on residential buildings, on humanitarian objects, there we had a hit near the point of non-violence, fortunately there were no casualties, in general, unfortunately, as of... now we already have one civilian killed and two more hospitalized, they were injured as a result enemies, this is a dead person, it's along boryslav. shchyna on tokarivka, this is about these settlements, is that what we are talking about? and, well , the enemy uses artillery, or also , well, i'm just curious, we know that the enemy

uses attack drones against the defense forces, of course, the armed forces of ukraine, and are there such cases when these attack drones fly into civilian areas objects, or tries to impress local residents, whether such facts are not no, not recorded. unfortunately, it has been recorded that there are cases when the fronts, more hostile, they attack civilians in particular, it is difficult to say whether there or whether they they simply did not find a military target, and in order not to stop this drone just like that, they hit a civilian, or, or it is a deliberate act of terror, but unfortunately, we have cases when they also use anti-civilian vehicles and just people who... were on the street, and also, well, unfortunately, a large number of cases when they throw explosives from drones, just the same, well, they see that there are civilians, but they are not

stops, well, really, it's not a fight with death, although yes, it's a struggle with death every day, in fact, in the kherson region, this russian death is present to a greater extent, somewhere to a lesser extent , but in any case, this territory is shelled every day, and it is important, of course, to save people who... evacuate people who may or may not wake up every day after the night attack, or not to live until the evening, this is unfortunately a fact, but from the zone that is constantly under shelling, they write that they do not take out 95 children who remain there, they are not taken out, please tell me if there is any impact on this situation, because well, an adult actually decides his own fate, his own life, although of course everyone, it is better for everyone to be in a more... safe place in ukraine , fortunately, there are safer places, but children, they are actually legally responsible for their parents, but their lives are important, and they also have

some kind of decision to make , please , in fact there is such a problem, there were much more such families than there are now about 100, what remains is precisely in the settlements where not only mandatory, but even forced evacuation was announced. and this process continues, the work with these families continues workers of social services , child care, and representatives of military administrations, volunteers, tell in what conditions they will howl, how this evacuation will take place, but unfortunately, the decision must be made by the people, we do not have such a practice to people, you know, were thrown out of these homes, because there is necessarily... forced evacuation, even when there are children there, i urge everyone to make the right decision and temporarily leave this area, because it is very

dangerous, friends, you see how every day the enemy is using a significant amount of ammunition there specifically on our civilians, specifically on your settlements, and even if it is not about your health, it is about your children, and now it is your duty to do everything to so that the children are in the safest possible conditions, and all the necessary help will be provided, there is such an opportunity, a large number of volunteers help, there are actually different directions of evacuation, everything can be agreed and the order of departure, the date of departure, the direction, all this is discussed, all this can be done but you need a desire, after all, consent to this evacuation, without it there will be no result, well, in beryslav, which is also constantly under fire, up to 10% of the population remains, it is about language, it is about the fact that people are probably already there absolutely it is impossible to live, yes

, to be brief, the situation is very difficult there, 10, well, there is a maximum of 15, but i think that the closer figure is still 10%, you know, there is also constant shelling there, just like in other populated areas, but the enemy is there systemically and unfortunately, has been using kabe for a long time. heavy aerial bombs, well, they are there supposedly controlled, but very often they just fall into private houses, where there are just civilians, and you understand, there is practically no chance of survival after that, if a person is in this building, because a very powerful explosion, well, plus, we i spoke with you at the beginning of the conversation and you said that the enemy hit the point of invincibility in bereslav, i don’t know that there in bereslav region, i don’t know if there is another point nearby, but this leads me to the point that even if someone needs support, well, in the point of indifference, in any case, there should be some charger, some hot, hot tea,

well, there is medical help, then... of course, the enemy, as they say, thus cuts off access to any help for people, placing them in a complete hell, where only they can fly drones and missiles. well , in the meantime, the russians are building their plans in the occupied territory, well, in particular, they are forming, they have brought in, well , they are taking and have already brought in the units of the russian guard, they are probably preparing by-elections so that nothing happens in them outside of the plan, and also. t in russia to build, so -called, to go to the occupied territory of ukraine, to build something, as you see it, is , by the way, a very threatening trend, because i read today that in melitopol, in particular , almost 100,000 foreigners were brought to melitopol during the period of occupation, and then they will have to be caught somewhere looking for how they will infiltrate is a very difficult story, how about it in the kherson region, please , you know, we actually have a slightly different

situation, in us... i can’t say that now a significant number of russians have come there to to live on temporarily occupied the territory of the kherson region, because they are not comfortable there, in my opinion, and at least they perfectly understand that this is an occupied territory and the mood of the people, they feel all this, and besides, the defense force of ukraine works effectively in our country, and partisans, and there from time to time they are completely, let's say this, uncomfortable, that... to the rosguard, yes, unfortunately, we see their strengthening now, they are probably preparing for, well, there will be no elections there, but this show that they will spend, it must be provided, because in every couple there, which will work, we recognize this work of their commissions, i need an armed escort, because otherwise they do not go there, it remains, as a rule, off-screen,

prohibited. say, post photos that they are driving next to armed soldiers or rosgvards, but in fact this is what happens, because otherwise there will be no one there to open their houses and communicate with those members of the so-called commissions, well, and me very briefly, i will ask if spring is coming soon, there is a month left, god willing , we will all live to see it, and of course, that people will somehow arrange their beating, especially. whose buildings , households were affected, or answer, well, don’t answer, but from the kakhovka hydroelectric power station blown up by the enemy, from the dniprovska water, or from the shelling, i know that some constructions are very active now and people are also being offered building materials, or preparations are being made for the spring period , we hope that there will be an opportunity for people to rebuild a little and put their communal property in order, it is also constantly about... there are

certain difficulties in fact, especially this it concerns the zone of active hostilities , which is recognized by the territories, because there is a legal problem there for the work of the commission for surveying damaged property, they are currently working on it so that there are no such legal problems, regarding repair kits, and there is a maximum cooperation with donors, charitable organizations. system, because the need for reconstruction is actually very great, and every day, unfortunately, the number of objects and the number of people who need it increases, where the other is already safe the situation, yes, it works side by side there and actually works effectively, a significant number of objects have been rebuilt there, there are also certain results in the pokrovsky passage, which was also recognized there as a pilot program for restoration, there will be, well,

it is actually this national point, the russians destroyed it completely, it will have to be built there, well, practically from scratch, there was not a single whole building left, during de-occupation, there is also progress there. thank you very much, mr. yuriy, for your comments, thank you for joining, take care, yuriy sobolevskyi, the first deputy chairman of the kherson regional council, was in touch with us and we discussed the situation in this region, part of which remains under occupation, and part of which the enemy... the enemy is actively shelling, unfortunately, the citizens of ukraine who are in fact suffering or in or near a combat zone. well, now we will talk about the political situation, and unfortunately, we have to talk about political scandals, although we would really like to have them. volodymyr tsybolko, a political scientist, is in touch with us. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you.