will be trump, he will start a different game, and the game is completely clear, he wants to be a kind of conservative leader of europe, more precisely the leader of the conservative right of europe and a partner in this sense of trump, so i think that there will be a compromise, it is not an ideal compromise for us, but in fact, in my opinion, not super, not super critical, but outside the limits of these 50 billion, which we constantly talk about, and it is clear why, since this is a question of life and death for us, this is help, and i am not here in any way i am not exaggerating, i am waiting for such a strategic conversation of security sense as to help ukraine, and i mean everything, including economic aid, because for me it's all part of a big security effort, you here... showed our friend

josep barel, he talked a lot today about the training of ukrainian servicemen, and he talked about shells again, that half will be ready by march, on the one hand, of course, it is sad, on the other hand, the european union is increasing its capacities in many countries, and by the way, and here i will say, to throw such a somewhat provocative thesis, i will use it. already rfe/rl, including in hungary , as rhine metal is building and expanding its military equipment production facilities there, where it will produce a new armored personnel carrier, in the future a new tank, as far as i understand, and in the sense of new ammunition, so hungary will also play a rather interesting role here, yes, that is, they, no matter how much they want to? not to supply weapons to ukraine

will have to, if there are german forces on their territory, well, here you said what i wanted to say with such a big chinese hint, i would have formulated it differently, but the meaning i support with two hands. ok, but you said that it will be for ukraine, some compromise will be found at the summit, it will not be ideal for ukraine, but it is better than nothing. and you can detail what this demand of viktor orban means. to review aid every year, this means that ukraine will not immediately receive 50 billion or guarantees for 50 billion, how will this affect ukraine itself? no, well, first of all, we are not talking about immediately receiving all 50 billion as of the day after tomorrow, after the vote, this is even technically it is impossible, it is clear to everyone who understands something about money, but orbán wants every year... to have a political

decision, that is, if a political decision was made today about 50 billion, then the european commission could, according to the needs , according to the prioritization common with us, allocate this money, and could have flexibility when more money is needed, when it is necessary, for example, to close certain bridges with problems, with american help, because... there in the congress, the discussions are still continuing, that , which actually offers orban means putting hooks in the form of political decisions every year, but the situation changes, it doesn't matter how it changes, but we are going to gather and make another political decision, this does not mean that money will not be allocated, maybe there will even be more, or maybe they will be allocated according to a different procedure, and there may be fewer of them, such a risk is still... there is, so it creates risks,

it does not create a fundamental challenge for us that there will be no money, but the situation becomes less predictable, and we of course, you can't like it. understood you, against the background of this just the other day, the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, péter szijártó, was in ukraine with a visit, did you follow this visit, what did he bring with him, in general, what was the trend of this visit, how satisfied were the parties and kyiv and budapest? well, i don't know who is satisfied, this question is really subjective, but the visit is really important, of course, it took place on the eve of the yesiv summit, peter siyarta is not a seed of independent political opinion, i say this without any such, you know , shoot at him, he pursues a policy that he determines... orbán

and to exchange opinions and actually determine what and how can be done jointly or separately in coordinates. parties for some near tactical perspective, this is clearly an important story , the negotiation process will begin now, i really hope for accession to the eu, here in hungary there are a lot of opportunities to delay, slow down, block something, i am not talking about the security history with nato and so on, so there is a lot to talk about here, there are interesting topics related to transit, which are not easy, politically for us, of course, there are topics that actually concern the transit of such classic, non-energy, transport, and pay attention, by the way, today i

came across the capacity in hungary, when polish carriers began to actively block the border, it was precisely on the ukrainian-hungarian border that there was a flow. belly it has increased significantly, and it has increased about one and a half times to 400 plus as far as i know, so orbán has his gains, not because he likes us of course, but because he is doing his politics and playing his game, and his game today is strategic, therefore, in short , this visit was definitely necessary , this conversation was definitely necessary, this is the first nail, but the conversation with orbán personally is critical, everything in today's hungary is determined by orbán's team, and directly by viktor himself orban, of course

, knows what he is playing for, i already said, he is waiting for trump, he is selling himself as a person who will talk to trump, and xi, will talk, and even to putin, as you remember, he is in ... china was the only one in general from the west who sat down with putin together and put pressure on him he also talked about something there, and of course they have difficult topics with russia, such as discounts on gas and oil, and the construction of nuclear power plants there, so orban will continue to put his eggs in different baskets, well, it is probably worth it here to remind that this visit of peter siarto was probably also a preparation for a possible meeting with zelenskyi. with orban, it has basically been planned for a very long time, ever since zelensky only became president, the war, then postponed this whole story, but as i understand it, there is a lot of hope in kyiv to this meeting in order to meet orbán in person, well, it is yes for no, of course, then i say that all politics in hungary is determined

by orbán, and you need to prepare for a personal meeting, it will continue, because there are issues that still need to be discussed , there are issues... difficult political ones, and they by no means concern only transcarpathia, where these negotiations actually took place, it is a difficult story, and we need to work on the meeting in the future, and this visit, i said, is a kind of first nail. another topic, allow me, here i am today, the financial times quoted a letter from the chancellor of germany, which was published by the prime minister, the prime ministers of denmark, the czech republic, estonia, and the netherlands. and they called on other countries to literally redouble their efforts to support ukraine. they directly state that this is a matter of life and death. i just have a question, and to whom is this letter actually addressed, because i got the impression that all non-public communication has ended, it

has been used, and now some eu leaders are coming out in public to convince others leaders of the eu countries, to help ukraine, or how should it be perceived? it's worth it. to accept as a public conversation of the european union itself, and the fact that it has now actually moved into the public sphere is good, the fact that the germans were one of the initiators of this letter, what i know and what i can say is also good, you know , that today germany is our number two donor, both in the sense of weapons and in the sense of... economic aid, and i always say that the main volume of their aid is precisely grants, not loans, and today to a large extent, again without insults to other european countries, such

a strategic, but also tactical line in relation to us, europeans, is defined by germany, it is not yet the classic leader that we would like to see, but on... i see real transformations, what this letter was signed by both czechs and danes, by the way, the dutch, it creates such a new format, if you like. situational initiative group, i say this deliberately with some trolling, but it is important, and important will be the conversation between olaf scholz and biden on february 9, if i am not mistaken in washington, because from their conversations, if not strategic, then tactical decisions for the near term depend, europe must understand that the problem is not that there is trump, not trump, biden not biden. there's a growing sentiment in the states, and it's very palpable, and among the republicans, you

hear it, among the democrats, there's also, but less publicly, that is actually moving to the side, let's not overextend ourselves with military, other aid, because our main focus is this is china, and in this sense, europe, as i joked with your colleagues yesterday, has to pull out like munchausen from... by the hair from this swamp of comfort and to understand that the next challenges, they will not be as comfortable , banal as the previous ones, so what europe does for us, it actually does for itself, that's how our neighbors , and, of course, they help us a lot, and we are extremely grateful for that, but nevertheless, they are primarily concerned about their own safety, but the fact that the germans, the dutch... the danes also began to invest in this story, that they sign

joint appeals with central europe, to which i believe we also belong, this actually really important, and it also gives a signal to putin, it gives a signal to the russian regime that europe's intentions, they are getting more and more serious, europe, unfortunately, is slowly ramping up its defense industry, but none the less. and we see it. we have literally 3 minutes left, so i want to ask you one more question. victoria nuland, us deputy secretary of state for political affairs, arrived in kyiv today. do you understand why, what is the purpose? as a rule , such high-ranking officials come when something needs to be conveyed that cannot be said by phone via online communication and so on. well, when victoria comes, she always talks. about everything, about the entire complex of ukrainian-american relations, of course,

she will have key topics, of course, she will discuss both tactics and strategy, it will be both a question of aid and a question of what we can do, and in a military sense , and in the economic, and sustainability issues, and many more actually, other issues that are not really public, so... victoria nuland for today, she actually leads our track. when she comes she, as a rule , does not discuss such routine issues at all, she knows what to focus on, she understands ukraine fantastically, i can say this from my experience, so this visit will be very, very important and will have, i am so careful. i will formulate critically important consequences in the sense of the tactical line

of the americans in relation to us, you formulated it in such a way that you left a lot of intrigues after that, i, but, but you yourself said that we have 30 seconds, and the conversation is for 30 minutes, yes that there is no way without intrigue. and i then i will ask a very brief question, do you think they will ask the president about zaluzhnyi and maybe convince him to leave the commander-in-chief in office? i don’t know if they will be persuaded, but they will definitely be asked, since the issues of the military leadership are clear to the americans, who exactly, who supports which strategy, but also personal issues are always in the focus of american attention, i can’t say anything about persuasion, but this will definitely be a topic, thank you very much, pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, 2014-19, the ukrainian diplomat was...

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all mobile operators in ukraine free, you can also write to the chatbot, child tracing services in telegram. you are watching the ukrainian voice of america program chas time, i'm natalya leonova, congratulations. the un international court of justice found russia guilty of violating the convention on terrorist financing. according to article nine. the court noted that russia did not fulfill its obligations to investigate cases of terrorist financing. also, russia was found guilty of violating the obligation of non-discrimination

of the ukrainian minority in the field of education, which is enshrined in the international convention on prohibition of racial discrimination. however, the court did not support a large part of ukraine's accusations. he did not satisfy the demands for punishment and compensation, but only obliged russia to comply with the convention. the decision of the un international court was announced on january 31. we will talk more about ukraine's claim and the details of the decision with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupin. he joins us from london. congratulations, bohdan. bohdan, what lawsuit is it about, what exactly did ukraine accuse russia of and what did it demand? so this is one of the many things of the lawsuits of ukraine against russia related to the... war, which have been filed, are being considered in various international courts, in this case it is one of two lawsuits in the international court of the

united nations, and it is a lawsuit that was filed a long time ago, many years ago, even before the full-scale invasion due to the events that occurred at the beginning of the russian war against ukraine. the lawsuit was filed in 2000...17 , and in it ukraine accused russia of actions that were committed on the territory of the occupied crimea, as well as in certain areas donetsk and luhansk regions, and it was about accusations that russia violated the provisions of the conventions that it itself had signed, in particular the convention on oppression on a racial basis, and in particular it was about... oppression of ethnic crimean tatars and ukrainians on the crimean peninsula, as well as about the ban on the financing of terrorism on

the territory of ukraine, in fact , ukraine claimed in this lawsuit that russia supported armed groups that actually committed terrorist acts in the east of ukraine at the time. bohdan, given that the court did not support the majority accusations of the ukrainian side, can this decision be considered a defeat for ukraine in court? well, actually, the ukrainian representatives in gaz e. have already said today that they consider it their achievement, after all, that in the international court russia was recognized as a violator, although only in a few of the many accusations that ukraine has filed, and the russians have already they say that they actually won, but let's see, let's say, in general, how it was all formulated today in...

the judge's report, for example, regarding the events in crimea, the court representative admitted that yes, on the territory of the crimean peninsula, for example , the crimean tatars, there were cases of torture, there were murders, there were disappearances, persecution , this was not denied, instead, it was said that these actions, these persecutions and oppressions, were actually on a political basis, and not on a racial basis , and therefore, they say, russia cannot be held responsible for the provisions, for violating the provisions of this very convention, that is, in general, for example, in conversations with ukrainian representatives, lawyers often emphasize to me that international legislation, international the judiciary is very imperfect and almost weak

, but despite this... ukrainians believe that it is necessary to continue fighting in the courts, in particular, the representative of ukraine who filed, in particular this lawsuit, the former deputy minister of foreign affairs told me about this today even before the announcement of this decision of ukraine, olena zerkal. and it can really be rivers, but these steps that we have now taken during the last nine years, it is definitely necessary. are such conditions, without which russia will later be able, would be able to refuse both violations and compensations, well, in general, from the fact that they they did here, well, that's why i think that this is a complex solution, without which we could not later claim that we are really a state that suffered and really deserve to be

under... restrained, because we ourselves are fighting for ourselves, and this process is also part of our struggle for ukraine and our statehood. bohdan, this week the un court is due to announce a decision on another lawsuit by ukraine against russia, in which ukraine accuses the russian federation of using ukraine's accusation of genocide to justify an illegal invasion, what can we expect from this decision? yes, that too the international court of the un, and also the lawsuit of ukraine against russia, but another one regarding the convention on genocide, so to speak, it’s all twisted, but it’s actually just a technical decision, which consists in whether the court will agree to russia’s objection, russia demands that the court in general threw this case out, because they say that

he does not have jurisdiction, in this matter and in this case, but the situation here is completely different, and in particular, 32 states took the side of ukraine in this case, i think that we will see what the decision will be in prison, but to simply reject it all will probably be up to the judge hard. thank you, bohdan, for your analysis, bohdan tsyupin was in direct contact with us from london. ukraine conducted one of the largest exchanges of prisoners of war, 207 people returned home. the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war reported that 95 soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine were released from captivity. 56 national guardsmen, 26 border guards, 29 territorial defense soldiers and one representative of the national police of ukraine. among the dismissed servicemen of the defense.