in fact in military materials, in fact turning north korea into a kind of military workshop where they produce munitions, and not only munitions, i think that missiles will soon be made for the russian army, that is, russia is doing, that is, this whole huge russia, it works now in order to wage war in the interests of a group of people who are going to just stay in power, that's it, that's the whole war, and as a result... they are ready to kill hundreds of thousands of russians, and of course hundreds of thousands of ukrainians, for them it's not a problem at all, and so, again i will repeat myself, when they tell us that we need to go into strategic defense, well, excuse me, look at this leader of a neighboring state or empire, and what kind of strategic defense we are talking about, we need to increase our efforts precisely in order to change the character of this war , and not try to...

stop and sit down on strategic defense, maybe we will be advised to really move away from the borders and allow putin to declare that he managed to create some kind of security belt there on the border with russia, well, that is, to listen we don't need putin, we still need to achieve our tasks and goals at the front, at the front. the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, kyrylo budanov , predicted on the air of the telethon that the offensive of the russians will soon be in autumn and winter. will run out and then ukraine's move will begin. budanov says that this move will take place, and obviously this move will take place already in the spring, because actually there are a month or so 29 days left until spring. and it is clear that budanov has his own vision, but budanov also gave a lot of different predictions about and crimea and the development of events at the front, can we perceive... these forecasts as those that

can really be implemented in the spring of this year. well, i wouldn't say that they will be implemented in the spring, first of all , the russian offensive will really end in the spring. why will it end? well, first of all, it is impossible to advance in such an intensive manner, because since october they have been conducting a simply frantic offensive in various directions, on a huge front, starting from kupyansk and ending. indeed the left bank of the kherson region, trying to break through the front at least somewhere and demonstrate victory or some winning results for putin's so-called elections, but putin now has to tell some fairy tales about pushing ukrainians away from the border, in fact, he should tell about the breakthrough and the de-occupation of the entire donetsk region, for example, it would be much more powerful before.

the next election of this emperor, everyone will move, but in reality, of course, they will not achieve their strategic goals, it is already clear, they will actually have a little more than a month left, they will throw in even more resources, this it will be a very tense situation in february, but i think that they will not achieve any operational success, after that they really need the beginning of spring and the end of the election campaign. and they will have to regroup , recover, mobilize clearly, because they lost a lot of people, a lot of equipment, so they will have to recover, and this period is very similar to the period that was last year, then also in the winter, the wagnerites and the regular forces tried to take bakhmut, and then in the spring they stopped active hostilities and stood up in ob.

at this time, the ukrainian army began to carry out active offensive actions, i think that this year this algorithm may be repeated, and the russians will have even greater losses, in fact, because now there is no wagner, who would dispose of zekiv on such a scale, the military of regular units, therefore the regular unit will have to be restored even more intensively, for this it will obviously be necessary, i repeat, to carry out mobilization, for the ukrainian army, again, we cannot know. and this year, i think, it is necessary to launch more disinformation into the information space, unlike last year, when in fact there online mode we talked about the offensive and demanded all this information from the ministry of defense and the command, where are our the tanks left or the armored personnel carriers, that is, i think that the information policy this year should also be modernized and adapted, but the fact that in the spring and summer of this year ukraine will...

carry out offensive actions, i have no doubt about this, for example, despite i will repeat the requests and proposals of our western partners to enter strategic defense, well, obviously our... capabilities will be correlated with how weapons, in particular ammunition, will arrive in ukraine, because today josep borel is the supreme representative of the european union for foreign policy, after the meeting defense ministers of the countries of the european union, stated that the eu can supply ukraine with only 500,000 artillery shells by march instead of the promised million, let's listen to what jorze borets said. from last march to at the beginning of this year we have delivered 330k rounds so we are a third of the target, mostly from existing stockpiles, by march i expect that number

to increase by over 200k, so once we reach 524k it will be more than half of goals, mr. mykhailo, so... anyway, the european union, it is not keeping up with russia, because russia has more opportunities, of course, they have connected north korea there, they are taking missiles there, but, uh, this means that the european union never even thought of going to war with russia, now they just do forced on the march to simply rebuild their entire economy, the military-industrial complex and produce more and more ammunition, because... if they don't have enough and we don't have enough, then the question arises, what will happen in the event of a direct conflict between russia and european union? absolutely right, i think it is very useful for europe, in conditions where the united states may even voluntarily give up its

global leadership, well, that is, if under certain conditions the united states can withdraw into itself, declare that it has is the only one the problem is the mexican border, and in principle. the european members of nato will be forced to defend themselves and take care of their security by their own means, which means that it is really necessary to have a defense-industrial system that provides ammunition, provides armored vehicles, provides all necessary military tools that could together with ukraine, of course, with the ukrainian potential, to oppose russia and prevent russia from attacking europe, then... for example, the baltic countries, poland or, well, let's say romania, yes, or bulgaria, that is, the task is until now, it really wasn’t carried out seriously, that is, even in 23, 22, these measures were not implemented, and indeed the decision

to release a million ammunition for ukraine was only adopted, borel said in march, i think it was only adopted in march . the decision is political, remember, there were long discussions between poland and france about who should finance whom, they lasted until june, i think, and maybe july, and only then did real funds begin to arrive and they began to deploy this production then there is no surprise that they will now only fulfill half of the plan in march, they could not have had time in six months to actually deploy new factories with... you engineers, provide raw materials, components and so on, it is not such an easy task in fact, to produce 1 million munitions , if the munitions industry has actually been collapsing for 30 years, and now, in principle, there is a chance that the productivity of this european system,

including munitions, will increase already in geometric progression, that is, when the factories will be built or they have already been built and the scaling of these... production processes will simply go in the normal direction, and indeed europe will be able, for example, to produce a million rounds of ammunition for ukraine by the end of the year, plus provide its armed forces at least partially, and if the united states still at least they endured the 24th year in the same way as they supported ukraine before, so ukraine could actually receive 2 million ammunition this year. and this means that the ukrainian army could use about 5-6 thousand shells per day, that's enough a decent level, russia can now use even more, due to the fact that north korea, in fact, according to some data,

the combined, combined capabilities of north korea and russia, they are somewhere 50 to 50, mean four or even more million munitions per year and that. .. well, this means that it will be difficult for europe and ukraine itself to resist such an alliance, this axis of evil, and therefore it is desirable for the united states to remain the leader and... to remain in our coalition, the western coalition that is fighting with the axis of evil. well, the very end of our conversation, the military-industrial complex of ukraine, in principle, should also cover our needs, including artillery ammunition. what is happening in the military-industrial complex now, is something happening? yes, of course, it happens, but unfortunately, a lot of time was lost, in fact, the ammunition industry began to develop only in the 19th and 20th years, and then there was no such impetus for

really large-scale projects, and only literally there in 22 - in 23 years, already after the full-scale aggression, the processes began, when we say that both 155 mm ammunition and mortar mines began to be produced on such an industrial scale, there is, of course, the hope that, let's say, in a year or two, ukraine will be able to meet some of its needs in a certain way, but it will definitely not be able to produce there on its own , for example a million or 2 million pieces of ammunition, we see that the entire european union, let me remind you that germany, a powerful, superpower , and france, and italy, and the netherlands, that is, countries from the top ten economies of the world, are included in principle they cannot fix it in a year, even more. production of ammunition in sufficient quantity, what to say about ukraine , which is in a difficult economic state, in

a state of war, that is, there are, let's say, plans, there are efforts, but it is obvious that we ourselves will not be able to do this, we will not be able to produce 2 million tons , 2 million pieces of shells, for example, in six months, there are absolutely no illusions here, we are all waiting for the decision of the congress of the united states of america regarding the opening of funding. and regarding this large sum of 61 billion dollars and of course internal problems in the united states of america does not allow this to happen, how will it affect the armed forces of ukraine on our capabilities, and in particular on the capabilities that you talked about, not to stand on the defensive, but to do everything in order to exhaust the russian army, so that it does not accumulated resources and... opportunities for further offensive or further massive strikes on the territory of ukraine? the logic of the process

suggests that, in fact, those contracts that were financed last year and they are executed, well, yes, since ammunition contracts, they were financed in the 23rd year, and are executed in the 24th, and there are also contracts regarding the maintenance of, for example, our f-16s or glsdb supplies, which are already supposed to... reach the armed forces forces and so on, that is, the logic of the process suggests that such a failure will not happen immediately, that is, we have a chance to receive a certain amount of ammunition under the contracts of the 23rd year, to ensure, for example, the arrival of aviation, its maintenance for a certain time, the arrival of other tools , including long-range, that is, i have on keep in mind that, for example, in the 24th year there is still a chance to extend those contracts that were in the 23rd year and apply them in the 24th, but what will happen in the 25th if the united states in the 24th

they will not give him money, this means that, for example, even, well, i would say, the maintenance of the f-16s, which will enter service with the armed forces of ukraine, and the f-16 is a very delicate machine, it needs constant and very expensive maintenance, and this means that, for example, without the support of the united states, europe, of course, can try to carry all this burden and ukraine will... try, but again, without these financial resources of the united states, in the 25th year, or even at the end of the 24th year, there may be a real failure, a failure that can already categorically affect the situation at the front , and we will not be able to somehow compensate with our own resources or with european ones, thank you, thank you, mr. mykhailo, it was mykhailo samut, a military expert. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel and we are joined by dana ya., an adviser to the deputy deputy minister of defense of ukraine and member of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense, mrs.

dana, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. greetings from ukraine, greetings from the studio. mrs. dano, yesterday, in the higher anti-corruption court, they could not choose a preventive measure for liev, who worked for the ministry of defense and was involved in... who, let's say, is accused of embezzling 1.5 billion hryvnias of shells for the armed forces, and this criminal scheme was with the managers lviv arsenal and several others. foreign companies that you can tell us about this story, why are these anti-corruption cases so difficult and cases where people are suspected of embezzling huge sums during the war, these are simply catastrophically large sums, how does the ministry of defense perceive

the course of these cases, and are there any safeguards against that now.. what if there were no such devices and such sums, embezzlement of such a scale. let's say so, let's say so, the lviv arsenal, it was inherited from the previous head of the ministry of defense, from his deputy, let's say so, in terms of the armament itself, and from those stories that in... in to the ministry of defense in the 22nd year, i would not even consider the beginning of the war, because right at the beginning of the war, i think that more or less everything was, well , you know, it was very hot, everyone tried to do everything they could, but somewhere after according to my observation, somewhere from may 22nd , you know, when it is dark in the room, you can’t

see absolutely anything that is happening, and... we all know that the procurement of the ministry of defense was removed, let’s say, the visibility zone, and people, which were observed there, for example, by physical support, this is what happened on prozoro, of course, the purchase of weapons will always be closed to ordinary citizens with more, let's say, more nuances, that 's right, but the affairs of the lviv arsenal... it's so, you know, so simple, in its own way, i don't even know , how to describe it, the fact is that at the beginning of the full-scale invasion we had three special exporters, er, arms trade is generally a very regulated process, and literally at the beginning of vinnytsia, special exporters became special importers in one day, we started

buying a lot of weapons , and at some point a company such as lviv arsenal appears in itself, which has never engaged in the purchase of weapons in its activities, never. at one point, on one day, she gets a license to carry out such activities, but she does not have a license to contract with the supplier that they declared and about which they gave their commercial proposal, and she also did not have a license to carry weapons on the territory of others . these are mandatory documents, those that are simply impossible, without which to start any process at all, but the process was to start, this company made a proposal of the ministry of defense, the proposal was accepted, in one day a decision was made to advance in the amount of 97%, minus the commission

of the lviv arsenal itself, and thus the funds went abroad. why now? it's so difficult , well, i had a question in general a long time ago, when these documents got to the law enforcement agencies, and they got there at the beginning of our activities, it was still the spring of the 23rd year, i had only one question, why is it still a question lviv arsenal, it is not proven, although b to law enforcement, criminal cases have not been initiated, it is not that it has not been brought to court, because there we have more complex stories with a more complex evidentiary... base, everything is simple here, you know, absolutely everything is clear and absolutely everything is , well, i don’t know, it’s impossible to get simpler, but why do you now say, well , the measure of prevention has been changed, and there are nuances here that may not have been taken into account during the opening of this criminal case, but i think that maybe it

will somehow be, let’s say, corrected, ah, it's that this criminal case from... the national police, together with the sbu and together with the ministry of defense, will there be any , shall we say, further consideration of this criminal case, as we would all like, so that the guilty, in the end, bear responsibility for... providing a large sum of money , i'll tell you, it's not even in the amount of money, it's in the number of artillery shells, you understand, it's, well, whose life it is, it's just the life of people who were not... covered by artillery at some point, if it didn't sound pathetic, even if we move away from the option of money, we will approach the option of the price of human life,

i would really like to, and i will say this here, on my own behalf, i have been talking to all the law enforcement agencies about this case since may, and frankly, i can only wish our law enforcement agencies to bring this matter to ... court and demand from the court , well, we have such, you know, a very complicated judicial system, so that there is no conditional judge-wolf who will say that everything was fine, unfortunately, we will not see part of the funds already, they have come out, there is an investigation , i have no right to tell, but we will not return them, and some of the funds have been seized on the accounts of the lviv arsenal, and after completion. judicial review of this case, they must be returned to the ministry of defense. here is such a story, but there are many such stories, i will say this, what

kind of fuses, well, today there are such, let's say this, you know, we now even have more fuses and more such big problems with non-approval of payments or with non-approval of contracts, just because people... are afraid to put their signature on one or another document, but it is not a question of whether the contract is bad or good, it is the question of the development methodology, the development of the risk identification methodology , this is the main thing, as soon as the methodology is developed in the ministry of defense and agreed with all law enforcement agencies, the risk assessment methodology, then we will be able to assess them normally, because now i see the ministry of defense in reverse. side of this coin, when ms. dano, how can it be, there are so many anti-corruption bodies, so many controllers, we have absolutely transparent contracts with our

manufacturers that are not approved because there are caveats. very briefly, if i may and such large contracts with such risks were concluded with the lviv arsenal, with the grenkevich family, that is, what does this indicate? well, what can i say, all these scandals are scandals, when, these, all these contracts, excuse me, these are contracts of the period until that grandiose scandal in the month of february ripened, and after which some such, you know, we they started to push the smoke screen away from the ministry of defense a little bit and make it harsher, but i keep saying that i am very sorry that rezniuk was fired for an egg and for... the proper quality of the jacket, no, they didn’t shoot for the lviv arsenal and they didn’t shoot for the polish company alpha, i’m very sorry for that, i’ll tell you honestly, but

it looks like some shooters are responsible for it, those who signed there , and the minister’s responsibility for it 's not, and i understand what you're talking about, but until the people who put their personal signatures are questioned and suspected, it is not possible to identify a person who... let's say, agreed to this process, let's let's hope that after all, even i will say, now something can happen, under the pressure of our people western partners, after all, people who are currently under investigation, they will start talking about those people who told them to conclude such a contract, but without political will, without such a will of the minister of defense, this could be it, true, well, now i tell you i will say, the assumption is my own, but it is nothing. not supported, i can't say anything, at that time the ministry of defense was closed to everyone, including the public. thank you for the inclusion, it was dana yarova,

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our social networks, on youtube. on facebook today in the issue. strengthening mobilization. the cabinet submitted an updated bill to the verkhovna rada. petitioners can have their accounts blocked and be banned from driving . leaders of trust ratings at a crossroads. the paths of zelenskyi and zaluzhnyi may diverge. who is shaking ukraine from the inside? the specter of a parliamentary crisis. in the monomajority may run out of votes. to make decisions, perspectives of the government of national unity. in the course of the program , we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you, friends, whether it is necessary to block the petitioners' accounts and deprive them of the right to drive cars, as provided by the government bill, which will be considered by the verkhovna rada of ukraine in just a few days. so, if you 're in favor of blocking dodgers' accounts and taking away their driving privileges, in... yeah,

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