turn on and turn on the verdict with serhii rudenko every weekday from 20 to 22 at espresso. watch this week's judicial control with tatyana shustrova in the program. pressure on the judge of the vinnytsia district administrative court. i was asked to rule against the plaintiff. but how does the russian church affect justice? power to varatov? on thursday , february 1 at 5:45 p.m., watch the judicial control program with tatiana shustrova on the espresso tv channel. and we are back. to remind you what to donate for our defenders for the 141st brigades, we need to collect a million, we are already almost a quarter, so 450 hryvnias are left and it will be a quarter of this. sums, but

we don’t stop there, let’s go further, for various trinkets, military, walkie-talkies, batteries , sterling, binoculars, rangefinders, scopes and all the other things that are very necessary in the orichov direction, now please join, the methods are in front of you on the screen , choose the more convenient one, i'm looking at the ifp agency, opened the guardian to check, verified everything, really, armenia, you remember, yes, a country that, in principle, has... lost its subjectivity, since the gas system was controlled by gazprom , the borders were guarded by the fsb of the russian federation , well, this is armenia, which was considered almost a satellite of russia, so armenia joined the states participating in the international criminal court in the hague, not to be confused with the oonivskyi court, which in march of last year issued a warrant for the arrest of the international criminal president of the russian federation vladimir putin, i.e. the rome statute. that is, if vladimir vasiliovich

putin, as patriarch kirill calls him, comes to armenia, he will be arrested, well yes, this can happen, but what is happening in mariupol, there are definitely no arrests, there have already been at least two explosions, writes the adviser to the mayor of mariupol, petro andryushchenko, about what was heard in all areas of the city, which was very, very loud, we hope that this continuation of those festive... fireworks in honor of the occupiers, which have been going off in crimea for the last few days. and we promised to talk about our people there, that is, in warsaw and all over poland, we will talk with public activist, human rights activist natalia panchenko. congratulations, ms. natalya. greetings, have a good day. mrs. natalia, poland immediately opened the door to ukrainians, they even had such a joke as to welcome 1 million ukrainians to poland, and the answer to this question sounded like their own. there were actually

nuances there, yes, because even those social payments that they received were very often received by the owners of the apartments, who were supposed to feed these ukrainians, after that a very large number of ukrainians found work in poland and actually began to support themselves, but some still need some kind of help there, and now there is a threat that warsaw will have a special status for ukrainians will not continue, but we understand that there is probably the most. but ours, what awaits them in such a case? in fact, according to various estimates, there are about 1.5 million ukrainian refugees in poland today, that is, precisely those who arrived after the full-scale invasion. it is important that about 80% of these people are already working today, that is, in fact , they can support their families by themselves, and they either do not receive any assistance, or they receive some kind of

500 plus, but everyone has the right to this, regardless of whether they have a special status or not, that's why we 're actually talking about a small number of people now, it 's around 15-20%, it's mostly categories that need special support, for example, pregnant women, for example, women who came without other family members, have three or four children, i.e. mothers with many children who cannot... work simply because they have to take care of children, for example, people with disabilities and so on, these are special categories of the population that, under any conditions, in any society, would need special support mostly they today in poland do not work because they do not have such a physical opportunity, mostly they still live in these shelters or dormitories provided by the state, and it is mostly about them. i did not hear that the polish

side declared that it would deprive them of all benefits in general, it is more about the fact that in march the term of this law, which was... adopted earlier and which so far confirms the legal status of everyone's stay, expires in march of people who came to poland after the 22nd year, there is now information that this law may be changed, but as no one knows, there are several different versions that only certain categories will be eligible for assistance, that this assistance will look different, it should also be remembered that the war continues . and there are people who used to live in ukraine, but suffered from shelling, they, their relatives, their buildings, a week or two weeks ago, or a month, and they came to poland just now, and actually you have to understand and remember that according to

the law, according to the law, they are exactly the same refugees, like those who arrived in february 2022, and the state should also provide them with certain opportunities. in order for them to be able to stand on their feet in the first months, it seems to me that they often do not think about this when changing these laws, consider it lightly, or simply do not think at all, thinking about the fact that all people can be on the territory of ukraine. unfortunately, no, unfortunately, the territory of ukraine is still dangerous, unfortunately, we do not have a single city or village in ukraine, to which a rocket would not fly, therefore, in fact, we must remember these people and we must remember that what no... all categories of refugees, unfortunately, can do work and can support themselves, fathers of special categories will definitely need support, but what it will be, unfortunately, we still do not know, because the law has not yet been promulgated , what will we do, ms. natalya, as they joke

in ukraine, in uzhgorod, as they joke that truskavets is not rubber, we understand that there may still be flows of refugees, since the intensity of hostilities is high enough, so this... everything is on the march, yes, as you said, and i wanted to ask you about the other side, as in a human rights activist, you know, people communicate, travel, come, and the stories are very different, but recently i watched a polish action film on netflix, and it was there when the warsaw school was with the russian mafia, and the students of the school there gave them an answer, among those students there were also ukrainian students , who study with him, and they , with shouts of glory to ukraine, duped the russian mafia, this is cinema, polish cinema, the realities are such that people come to complain, mothers say that children go to school together, and in some everything is okay in schools, in others bullying is like that, that is, that children

show what adults do not show, that is, such domestic ukrainophobia within the class, it is quite harsh, what do you as a human rights defender face in this regard? is there actually some permanent constant in the communication between ordinary citizens, between the poles who accepted our ukrainians, or here, as they say, in each, in each district differently? in each district differently , in fact, with bullying in poland, as in ukraine, it cannot be said that it exists in all schools, but there are definitely schools that have a problem with it, it has become a constant in... in poland positive, that is, the vast majority of poles treat ukrainians absolutely well in public places, at work, at school, in kindergarten, and so on. this is indicated by a huge number of studies, for example, one quite famous one, which

tseboch conducts every year, is about how poles treat ukrainians, and from year to year the sympathy of ordinary poles for ordinary ordinary ukrainians grows, which is wonderful. and this is what researches say, and in principle, in the air, in everyday life, it is also noticeable, but nevertheless, it should be remembered that poland is a country that has never been multicultural, at least after the second world war, they are not used to other nationalities, they are not used to another language, they are not used to another culture, even if it is very similar. therefore, problems in poland with xenophobia, with bullying, they are present. for years and not only in relation to ukrainians, this is of course not an excuse, but simply so that people in ukraine understand the situation that, for example, if a child goes to a polish school and comes from a completely different cultural stratum than ours, he must example,

different skin color, different religion and so on, it is even more difficult for her, it is simply necessary to understand and accept it as a fact, this is really a society that has before it... a lot of challenges, if we talk about multiculturalism and openness, a society that only learns to live among other people, in fact, this is the first generation at a time... once in a school that has someone other than poles in the class, uh, yes, ms. natalya, but look, there is another side of the coin, uh, it's just a historical experience, and our common, by the way, experience, living in a shared room republic with lithuanians, poles, once there were belarusians, it was like that, well , we subtract the belarusians, but in principle, in this triangle, there has always been some kind of tolerance between poles, lithuanians, ukrainians and... here the other side of the coin is that here in ukraine, our russophobia is not enough

, oksana and i are working on it to raise it , it has always been enough for the poles, because they know it well from all the divisions of the commonwealth of nations until the recent events, and in this case, do poles tolerate russian-speaking ukrainians, have they learned by ear and eye to distinguish where moscow is a moscow tourist, and where... a russian-speaking ukrainian? no, it 's an additional problem, and to be honest, uh, from those requests, uh, when people come to us, and we start to understand what the problem is, very often the language itself was the cause, the conflict in the first place. it is true that poles have a rather negative attitude towards russians, it is true that poles can easily distinguish russian from ukrainian. and it is true that they very often do not understand, and they are openly outraged by the fact that some

ukrainians, despite the full-scale invasion , continue to speak russian, several times at our actions, several times in krakow with our volunteer, similar situations also happened, when poles openly explained to ukrainians why they do not want to talk with ukrainians in russian, and from... correctly explained that they are not in a position to understand how, being a refugee from a war waged by the aggressor russia, one can continue to speak in russian , so let's not distort reality, don't pretend that it doesn't exist, yes , it's a fact, this problem exists, it's quite widespread, and so the poles react to it quite strongly, it's true, not about the reaction of the poles, but about the reaction of the ukrainians, we understand that in poland there is there are many not only women with children, pregnant women, there are also quite a lot of men, not necessarily those who have three or more children, or others who

have some kind of opportunity, not the opportunity, but the right, to go abroad, many of them were employed in poland even before the full-scale invasion, there are also other categories, and now the new draft law on mobilization provides that they will probably all have to register for military service, as in other countries, otherwise they will not be able to receive any. services provided by consulates, embassies and so on, military accounting in poland, i want to ask about this, is there already a vision, is there an understanding of how it will all happen, will it be through electronic offices, so what, is there an understanding of that , how the ukrainian community reacted, i also turned to the embassy and consulate for information, although some time ago, can they to explain, unfortunately, they did not have at the time when i applied. information, there is a lot of gossip, there are a lot of rumors, but

there is no algorithm how it should happen, even if they say that ukrainians should come, for example, to the consulate, several hundred thousand ukrainians live in warsaw, the consulate there are only five employees working, who, i apologize, are overwhelmed by the fact that someone died, someone got sick, someone's body needs to be sent to ukraine, someone needs to be put on the consular register, someone to issue a passport, someone had a child, how can these five people still be engaged in putting people on the military register, i honestly can't imagine, a similar situation in other regions of poland, if we are talking about diplomatic institutions, they are overloaded a long time ago, because the number of ukrainians, especially after the full-scale invasion , increased many times, the number of diplomatic staff in diplomatic institutions, unfortunately, did not increase. in general, and here is one unresolved problem that has been dragging

ukraine for several years. next is what exists there is a lot of gossip, which actually leads to the fact that people begin to fear, it is not known , what, uh, to say all kinds of words and epithets in the direction of the ukrainian authorities, in the direction of diplomatic institutions, employees of these institutions and so on, in fact, without having any the reasons for this, because we don't even... know what we are actually talking about, there is no draft law, there is no algorithm, we understand that the emotional component of the victims, reading stupid telegram channels at night. it is present, so there will be an emotional reaction, well, these are people who are not maintain information hygiene, they react like this, we just have a very important moment left in the last seconds, how did they react, well, let's say, at least the media, or those who react in warsaw, how the polish side reacted, and how the ukrainians in poland reacted when heard how a representative

of the president's office, leshchenko, and then... some other politicians said, stop supporting and financing them there, you transfer these money to us directly in the budget, and return them all to ukraine, we have such a syrozh leshchenko from yermak, he sounded like how did the poles react , how did the ukrainians react, if you can take half a minute, an official statement or some reactions even of the polish media to this, to this nonsense, i will allow myself to call it, and fortunately it did not happen, it went completely unnoticed here in infopol, regarding the ukrainians, to be honest , people laughed at this, because those who live on the territory of poland, especially for a long time, they never received any help from ukraine in principle, so it’s just funny, then it’s understandable, okay, then from us, from our ukrainians, the average the finger flies into the street bankova to syrozheleshchenko, and we, ms. natalya, thank you for the conversation, natalya panchenko,

social activist, human rights defender, we talked about the situation in poland. well, now we will talk about the other side, about the situation in ukraine and about the situation with recruiting. anastasia rozlutska, workuua project manager, is in touch with us. congratulations , ms. anastasia. good day. i would like to summarize what has been happening over the past few months. we have already communicated and talked precisely about whether it was successful or not recruitment is taking place, how willingly are people to apply for... vacancies, when they see a list in front of them, and not when they go to the ccc and think that they have no choice, uh, how do you see it, please analyze it, uh, i would i wanted to start this conversation on a positive note, because actually, when we are talking about the staffing of the army, and there are two ways

, mobilization and an innovation that began to operate not so long ago, this is military recruiting, today you can ask... what is military recruiting or not one of those components that causes trust in society, and this is evidenced at least by the numbers that we receive today based on the results of the analysis of the vacancies that are available today and how many people have viewed them. yes, as of today, we have over 25,000 reviews for all defense force jobs posted on workua. and i will remind you that the number changes every day, as of today, there are more than 1,500 vacancies that are published on the workua website from 236 units of the defense forces, reviews appear every day, as well as vacancies, on the other hand, we are watching

a couple of trends, one of those trends is that there are people... who, for example, come to one particular department and apply for many different jobs, another is that there is no job without a response today, and the third trend is that that, of course , those vacancies from the defense forces that correspond with civilians receive the most feedback , because we mean clerks, cooks, accountants, psychologists, doctors, that's exactly what i wanted to ask you about more detailed vacancies. if there is peacetime and hollywood is working, then everyone wants to be either a ranger or a marine cats, and if there is a state of real war, then isn't there this skew that everyone wants to sit in the headquarters, preferably somewhere in the area of ​​the uzhgorod boiler. i think there are several things here, for example, you can't

blame this side of society itself, because they don't fully understand what it is about when we... talk, for example, about a grenade launcher, a shooter, and although a shooter has a high number reviews, so along with those civilian professions, we do not have an understanding in civilian life of what a sniper, grenade launcher, machine gunner, tank driver is, since these are not professions that are trained in some universities, that is, special professional training is required here, namely military training. and accordingly, when a person does not fully understand something, he is wary of it somewhere, therefore , since this project is at the very beginning, so this process has only just started, so there is a lot at stake. there are many tasks before the ukrainian authorities and society, in particular, and before such platforms as ours, to convey this information to society, which

means this or that vacancy in the defense forces, i explain this only by the fact that we do not have these professions in civilian life, and they are not fully understood by people who choose, for example, a profession in the military, we cannot assert. that, for example, this or that part, if it is based today, for example, as you say in zakarpattia oblast, that tomorrow it will not be in cherkasy oblast, the conditions have completely changed, today we cannot talk about any stable basing of this or that military parts in some one place, it is constantly changing, ok, but look, how to communicate, oksana and i talked, well, you said, how can you encourage the recruiter more so that he, for example, goes. land to the troops, well, i, how to do it, you have ideas, oksan, how to agitate so that they do not want to go to the headquarters, and not how often it is reported to the infantry, to the stormtroopers, and do

we need to additionally motivate people so that they actually vacancies were chosen, look, the approach, when a person chooses a unit and a profession himself, he works, now the task is to explain each vacancy, explain... each profession in army, is there an easy way, no , not easy, because there are many more underwater levers, when we talk about the actual training of this or that or another serviceman, for example, there is basic training, professional training, here we also encounter many problems, about which we will also, well, obviously have to talk, but informational coverage of these professions will surely be the first contact with society. second, i cannot say that recruiting will be able to replace

absolute mobilization in the process of a hot war, it can be as addition, today we can only speak as an element of addition to mobilization, military recruiting, therefore, on the one hand, we must maintain this balance and not lose this trust of the society, which today is in the religious one. of military recruiting, and we receive feedback on all professions, that is, people are ready to go and prepare, to undergo this professional training. yes, this is not such a large percentage as conventionally for these civilian professions, but it is there, and here it is important not to lose these people and take advantage of this opportunity, because today, trust in the shopping centers themselves, unfortunately, we cannot claim that it is high, and there are many reasons for this, in particular, those information campaigns that were launched, it is through social networks, and also, the actions of individuals themselves, we seen, and it's terrible , in fact, it's actually still going on, because

the communication around the bill is still disastrous, mrs. anastasia, you're doing a good job and very delicately and correctly, so as not to lose trust here, we wish you success and thank you for explaining how it works, anastasia rozlutska, manager of workuua projects regarding... specifically recruiting. roman and i also say goodbye on this, we say: until tomorrow, take care of yourself, have a peaceful, safe day. then it remains with espresso. in a few minutes, our ether will continue the news and khrystyna parobiy will tell about the pipeline that medvedchuk once appropriated. before meeting. tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from razpak tv is just for you, with it you can easily cut trees and shrubs, it is so convenient to use

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