of the french republic, three more foreigners received minor injuries among the wounded, as well as an activist of the ukrainian representation of the organization, sincere condolences to the families of the victims, writes the head of the kherson regional military administration. we talked today about the fact that the enemy shelled boryslav oblast and also a drone attacked an ambulance, the enemy does not stop, but this time, unfortunately, our friends from france who came to help ukraine in this difficult war were killed. thanks and sincere memory and of course, punishment to the enemies. thank you for being with us, then the verdict with serhii rudenko, let's watch together. good evening, we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko, i greet everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next hour, we talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today in the program. cleansing of the crimea. after

a devastating strike on the belbek airfield, the armed forces sank a russian missile boat. how will the demilitarization of the occupied peninsula continue? 50 billion euros for ukraine. all eu countries unanimously approved additional support package. what arguments managed to convince orban? deferred resignation of the employee. the western media predict no... the impending dismissal of the head of the armed forces in the coming days, how will it be perceived in the army and the world? over the next hour, we will talk about this and other things with our guests, major of the armed forces of ukraine ihor lapin, retired general ihor romanenko and political expert volodymyr tsibulek. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest watching a video of how the strike of naval drones on the night of february 1 was... the missile boat ivanovets

of the black sea fleet of the russian federation was destroyed, the video of the special operation was released by the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, let's see.

friends, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please like this video, subscribe to our page and vote in our poll, today we ask you the following question: do you understand zelensky's claims against the poor man? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, or write your comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphones and vote if you understand zelenskyi's claims to zaluzhny 0.800 211 381, no 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we let's sum up the results of this vote. and we already have ours on the line. the first guest, major of the armed forces

of ukraine, special officer ihor lapin. mr. major, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes. mr. major, since we are asking ours viewers and tv viewers, about whether they understand the claims that president zelensky articulates or presents to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhny. i have a fairly simple question for you: do you understand the essence of these claims? of course, i understand. the fact is that at least one should look for the cause of the conflict, the primary cause, when did the conflict appear at all? if we say, who is no longer a secret, the different vision of the elements before the war between zaluzhny and zelensky, it created the corresponding theses, let’s say, therefore, not insisted on nazism. of the first stage, we see that

before the start of a full-scale invasion, such a reserve of the first stage was not mobilized. zaluz did not insist on deploying teroboron forces, teroboron forces were not deployed. as a result, zaluzhny insisted on preparing defensive structures for war, we built roads, as a result, the first wave of the best infantry in the world, the most motivated, these are the atoshniks, patriots of ukraine, who, in principle, unarmed, in fact with hunting carbines, karamaltuks went to meet the russians occupiers, and some even with molotov cocktails, this first wave of our best infantry was buried in ukrainian soil, therefore... the question of further responsibility will be borne by whoever takes it first, so that was the first blow, poor preparation the armed forces, whether the leadership of the army is not skillful, well, that's all, and you can put an end to this in principle, but having a great

fright after the start of a full-scale invasion, all the politicians, all the security forces who fled there, those who fled, i now do not speak for those who fought heroically, because i i know many patrol policemen who... were snipers once, and were also the first to engage in battle when the enemy approached, and at the same time i know how people like vanya bakanov or the so-called dbr immediately fled somewhere there to lviv or frankivsk regions, and when they returned when the first invasion was repulsed, when it was clear that the armed forces of ukraine and the ukrainian people were driving the rashists away from the capital, and then the liberation of chernihiv, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, kharkiv oblast, and the right bank of kherson, that is , all this caused what is happening today. .. the day of politics began engage in politics, both the rating-dependent zelensky and the applause-dependent zelensky saw that trust in the dependent is colossal, that, the question of zaluzhny and the question of the armed forces is being asked, equated, and the ratings of the armed forces and trust in

the military are 90% plus. at the same time, inept leadership and political failures, facaps, as well as inept preparation for war, fall precisely on the responsibility of politicians, those who did it. that's it, everything else doesn't matter. zelensky made the decision to fire zaluzhnyi, under what sauce he did it will do well, this is a different issue, we will never know about it, or we will find out after the fact, after seeing this presidential decree, if it appears on the president's website. the front will not crumble, the servicemen will continue to carry out the orders of their immediate commanders, but frankly speaking, demoralization and disorientation. personnel, which is happening today as a result of such bad actions of the ruling elite, and in particular yermak's office, well, this already has some kind of consequences, because the undermining of trust in the decisions of certain commanders, well, it to be honest, you can't think of anything worse.

again, zelenskyi, if he had a faberge, he would be able to say, so i have a different vision for the leadership of the armed forces, and zaluzhnyi, for example, did not cope with such and such a situation. and i change him, there would be nothing wrong with that, because it would be fair to the people, but what can he say that zaluzhnyi did not cope with zelensky's ratings? well, well, it’s nonsense, that’s why such a story is a sick imagination about the future of flying, its future is political, and for yermak's office, these are very serious risks, because zelenskyi's victory for the second time in the elections does not mean the first cult-campaign of this group to the lukyanivsky district. well, that's how i see it. mr. major, cnn already wrote today that the issue of zaluzhny's resignation has actually been resolved, and this is a matter of a few days, or maybe a few hours, god knows, but in relation to our broadcast. you

are talking about the fact that the front will not crumble, that in principle people fought as they fought, motivated people fought as they fought, and will continue to fight, that in this does it lose? if valery zaluzhnyi resigns from the post of the head of the ukrainian armed forces? let's be honest. the question of a good man is not a question of an idol, it is not a question of a person, it is a question of ukraine's survival, the question of ukraine's survival is connected with him. he already earned it, as they say, with blood and sweat , with our blood, our sweat, his own, as they say, with his strategic for... he already won't take this victory in ukraine away from him, who would not replace it, so in this context i do not consider the last name zaluzhny only in the context of the fact that for ukrainians, many ukrainians, it is related to survival, i don't know who zelensky will

woo for this place, i don't know much about generals, let's say, of this level, well, but i i know that one of such generals, such as general budanov, to whom i prophesied... this position, i cannot even imagine that, well, relatively speaking, let's be frank, if my education allows me to command a company or a battalion at most there, then not having strategic thinking on conducting those or others operations, i never in my life would like to command a brigade or, for example , a front, well conditionally, it’s still possible to be a brigade, if good deputies are competent, give some advice, help and so on, but a front, well, i wouldn’t pull it, because my education this is not enough, but the commander of the special forces platoon or the commander of the special forces company budanov must have decided that he can do it, because no matter how successful operations such as the liberation of snake island are, i have already told you more than once, it is... a small squad which landed on the island of snakes, suffered losses , yes, very heavy losses, almost half

of the personnel, if i am not mistaken, according to information there were 16 dead and eight wounded, this is the result of the island of snakes planned by budanov, not only that, there are other consequences, about which, let's say, the state bureau of investigation should deal with, but on the other hand, if president zelensky makes a decision, then we will implement it, the question is how well genii budanova will cope... with the global scale of a 50-man special operation, and relatively speaking, for 500 people, and what will be the consequences of this? therefore, let's put it this way, for me this question is very debatable, well, they said that budanov refused, maybe it was enough not to climb on the fact that, well, you can't do it all, even though he refused yesterday, he agreed tomorrow, this is the same question debatable, yes, well, we have two people named there, they are general syrskyi and general bodan. well, general sinsky, for example, i can say that he has this moment of strategic thinking,

how successful or unsuccessful he will be, how much trust will the military have in the decisions of general syrskyi, well, i will say frankly, i received my first order precisely at the command of general syrskyi during the execution of a combat mission near the gostomsky airport , to advance near the gostomilskyi airport and try to shoot down a russian plane, if possible, from an anti-tank belt will be, well, that is, i did not put under. in this order, that is , i said, i listened, took it into execution and went to carry it out, questions of a different kind, how appropriate or inappropriate it was, well , you remember the first days of a full-scale invasion, the question of expediency, intelligence, to intelligence, it's something at all, it's now we can talk about spaceships and jedi pro-swords, but nevertheless, be that as it may, sirsky managed many large military operations, and let's say so, if you look in some directions, i know the opinions of my comrades, that in principle... well , for them, let's put it this way, syrskyi is the person who commands the ground forces of ukraine,

today he is under the command of the lieutenant, which of them planned which operation, but you and i have never not we'll find out, it's true, but it was a consensus decision made by the head committee, and when this decision was made, we followed it, that's all, the question now is that he has enough education, skill, maybe enough, but to say that he will be better or worse than zaluzhnyi, well, let's be honest, i 'm not... now asking the question of the surname, i'm now asking the question of what mr. zaluzhnyi is associated with, he is associated with the strategic plan and the survival of the country. it has already happened. zaluzhnyi, shaptala, syrskyi, well, i still know the same nikoliuk there as now also a general, very respectable, a hero of ukraine, who personally went out and knocked out the russian zenlav equipment, that is, i know many very brave generals who have the appropriate education, opportunities and knowledge, but today the question stands. in a surname that, well , let's put it this way, does not cause any doubts at all in anyone,

except for yermak's office, this surname is connected with the survival of ukraine and with the repulsion of russian aggression, period, from now on the military will carry out orders according to the principle of unity of command in the army in order for everyone to understand, although for me personally, i let's put it this way, i respect fedorovich, although i have never met him personally. at the same time, i can’t say anything bad against syrsky either, because i’ve known him since the 16th year, and we personally crossed paths with him, you know, and why should i say anything, well, we know that he commanded those there today or other land operations, well, if there are any questions, if there are any questions, please let people come out and say, now i do not want to contrast one general with another, i only spoke about the negativity on the part of mr. budanov, in my opinion, has no such strategic thinking. why i think so, this is my subjective point of view, and there are some

somewhat objective things that i know from my brothers, some of whom had the honor, some not quite the opportunity to fight with budanov. as a special forces officer , i have no complaints against budanov, i have, although the late maksym shapoval had them, well, but this is theirs, you know what happened in the special forces, one has to die in the special forces, that’s the thing, so as for the special forces officer budanov, i have questions, complaints . no, how to the head of the operation is a snake, well, that's all, that's why the story is like this, i wouldn't want to go into battle under his command, well, let's say so, but if there is such an order, well, any military man. the employee will fulfill it, you understand , like it, don’t like it, well, that’s a matter for another discussion, the main thing is that it is not a criminal order, you understand, but to think before receiving the order, whether it is criminal or not, well, i don’t have such a thing authority, you see, so the military will follow the order, the soldier follows the order of his platoon commander, that

respectively, the company commander, he, respectively, in turn, the battalion commander and vertically the commander. brigades continued to go vertically, the last name, any one that falls in this, in this chain, does not play any role for the execution of the general order, that's all, that's why we are talking to you now, i'm talking now as a military man, as a politician can say, i like it, i don't like it, but i emphasize once again that the reason for the resignation of the illustrious person, for me, personally, i see it, is a sick rating and applause addiction zelenskyi and ermak, who keeps him in a warm bath. but on the other hand, mr. major , if the resignation of the brave man does take place, it means that all responsibility for what will happen in ukraine, including at the front, will fall on the shoulders of the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, because if he believes that zaluzhny did something

wrong, or did something wrong, then in this case , after zaluzhny's resignation, everything... all questions will now go to zelensky, right? no, i do not agree with you, because the question to zelenskyi will be both with and without a salary. the supreme commander-in-chief's question is the general question of our country. commander-in-chief zelenskyi bears his responsibility both in the 21st year, and in the 22nd year and in the 23rd, because he is the supreme commander-in-chief, you can’t say that they will change the hard-working one , then everything will fall on zelenskyi, no ,... it is as it is, not preparations for war in zelenskyi, freezing of missile programs in zelenskyi, no, there is no decree on mobilization in zelenskyi, absence of a law on mobilization, as well as on zelensky, and on demobilization, the lack of a decree will also lie on zelensky, you understand, because he took this niche upon himself when the president left, i don’t

like it, say i’m tired, i’m leaving and no responsibility after you leave, understand? well, he is not leaving, so this story, let's not, you know, tie, smear zelensky until the 23rd year, because he was diligent, no, zelensky is responsible for that, for all that he did, omanis meetings also at zelensky, the withdrawal of troops from the town of luhansk is also on zelenskyi, the withdrawal of troops in zolote four is also on zelenskyi, the demining of chongar will also lie on zelenskyi, it doesn't matter. who physically carried out the order, i.e. the order of the supreme leader to clear the road, the military say, they are going, they are demining , you understand, the order, whose order was the withdrawal of the fourth brigade of the national guard from gostomil airport, well, no, it’s not the truth, it must have been given by someone, to whom the national guard was subordinate before the war, not to the minister of internal affairs monastyrsky, monastic,

if this order came from zelensky, then who should be responsible, the political leadership of the country is zelensky himself, the missile program is closed, look, well, korea supplies north korea gives missiles to the russians, being under sanctions, they have a missile program, iran, being under sanctions , has a missile program, we are a space country under zelensky , all missile programs and funding of missile programs were closed, what do you think that i will mention khomchak in this context? no, not komchak, he was in charge at that time in the 19th year zsu, but it doesn't matter. it was the decision of the military-political leadership of the country, namely zelenskyi and his team, therefore the question of ending the financing of missile programs is not up to khomchak, he is an executor, and this is a question up to zelenskyi, so i emphasize once again, with the change of the names of the heads of committees, the responsibility of the supreme doesn't go anywhere, and she's nowhere, you know, eternal,

yes, she doesn't disappear anywhere and she's not going anywhere, she is, so that's the story, thank you, mr. major. thank you for talking, it was a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special agent ihor lapin. friends, we are working live on the channel and also on our platforms in youtube and facebook, for those who are watching us live there now, please like this video, don't be stingy, it is necessary to promote this video in the trends of youtube and facebook, and take part in our survey, today we ask you about the following: do you understand zelensky’s claims to the tyrant, yes, no, if you are on youtube, everything is quite simple, either yes or no, or write your comment below this video if you are watching we are on tv, please pick up your smartphone and vote if you understand what... the essence of zelenskyi's claims to zaluzhnyi 08021381 no 08021382 all calls to these numbers are free, at the end

of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next on our air ihor romanenko, retired lieutenant general, former deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. general, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. mr. general, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you too. mr. general, we we ask our tv viewers and guests of our program whether they understand the essence of the claims of the supreme commander-in -chief of the armed forces of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi. you understood the essence of these pretentious claims. you are a military man, you are a general, you were the deputy chief. general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, is everything clear to you? well, one thing is clear, that

responsibility is being sought for the fact that last year was unsuccessful from the point of view of the execution of tasks, tasks in the first place, which performed by the defense forces of ukraine at sukhadol, but, in addition, i would like to say that the achievement of the strategy. level last year, in my opinion, were at sea and were in the air , that is, the results of actions at sea led to the fact that the enemy was forced to withdraw a large number of ships and vessels from the vases on the peninsula, and in general, these actions led to the development of economic capabilities maritime, agricultural industry and grain supply and... and so on on the one hand, and on the other, in the air, in my opinion, the air force, this the type of armed forces, in difficult conditions, when the means

of air attack significantly exceed our capabilities, nevertheless showed its ability to ensure the fulfillment of the tasks of the defense forces of ukraine, both on the front line and in the territories, although. it is clear that we would like more effective activities both at sea and in the air, but for this we need new capabilities, for which, well, the military-political leadership is fighting, well, that is, you think that the issue is already almost resolved, the issue is not, i do not think that it is will be solved, rather complicated relationship, and i would like to say that... the reasons for the unfulfilled task last year in our country are not only external in terms of the supply of military

equipment, but also between these top officials, because the resource that was collected on counteroffensive actions in one direction, he sprayed first three. the bakhmud, berdyan and melitopol directions, and then they added the kherson direction, that is, since they were divided into these directions, the offensive, offensive actions were not achieved on any of them, and the russians quickly gathered reserves and not only stopped in all these directions, but also organizations. were counteroffensive actions, which continue and enough, and i emphasize, because this kind of relationship negatively affected

the circumstances of achieving results last year. today, valery zaluzhnyi wrote a column for cnn, there in the morning there was information that zelensky had already decided, as it were, about the future head of the armed forces of ukraine, well... zaluzhnyi published a column there in parallel and wrote that in the 24th year, ukraine should focus our main efforts on three areas: the first is the creation of a system of providing our armed forces with high-tech means, the second is the introduction of a new philosophy of training and conducting combat operations, which takes into account the limitations of means and methods of their use, and the third - to master... new combat capabilities as soon as possible, at the same time, says zaluzhny, ukraine already has the capabilities to destroy the enemy and ensure the existence of statehood, well

, that's it... plans, short plans, let's say yes, the outline plans of zaluzhnyi, we know that zelensky tried, as he says, to get zaluzhnyi’s plan of action, well, obviously, the reason for some misunderstandings, including regarding future planning, but we know, mr. general, that putin is now talking about that their plans are also adjusted, that is, we do not know how it is adjusted... our plans, because it is a military secret, and in the end the military-political leadership of the state should know, instead, our opponents in this war, the russian occupiers, speak through putin's mouth that they want to create a demilitarized zone in ukraine, and it should be at such a distance that would ensure the safety of russian cities from shelling. let's listen to what putin said. this line should

be such and at such a distance from our territory as to guarantee safety. i mean long-range weapons of primarily foreign production, which the ukrainian authorities use to shell our cities. i just said what our guys were doing, say, in the avdiiv direction, although the same thing is actually happening along the entire contact line. they are just right in particular, a group of veterans and other units of regular troops are engaged in this. that push the enemy away from the vital population centers of the russian federation, that is what we will do. mr. general, i have a question for you, as a person who knows long-range missiles and knows how it all works, and at what distance missiles fly now. when putin says that we will create a demilitarized zone, he is talking

about which one. a distance that cannot be overcome by missiles that will be in the armed forces forces of ukraine sooner or later long-range, you had a previous question, i would like to answer it, regarding the plans there, the nearest plan is zaluzhny b, which was required at the end of last year, that is, at the end of last year, when the situation that we are passing by we have already discussed with you, it is about... the fact that the execution of counteroffensive operations, which means that they were failed, in fact , by a juicy slouch, and at this time the enemy has gathered the potential that would allow him to carry out his counteroffensive actions, and at the current time the forces defense of ukraine is carried out strategic defense operation, forced not because, and it had to be done at the end

of the summer... come to strategic defense, and why? and because the potential that was gathered at the level of one direction, it, as i have already proved, was spread out, distributed to others, it is clear that it was not enough for such a quantity, the tasks were not completed, and to say that in such under the conditions, it is necessary to say something about plan b, it consisted in gathering god. forces to stop the advance of the enemy, now already in fact, along the entire front line, from the kharkiv region to the kherson region, this is now the main task of the strategic defense of the operation, and as for how to carry out the task, and the supreme commander-in-chief put it on the deoccupation of the lands, that is, in fact, the conduct of new counteroffensive operations, the conversation can be

carried on only then... when appropriate resources appear, which are not available now, as due to foreign policy circumstances, this is the situation, say, in america, with help, finally, for example, well, in europe with these funds, but this not military aid, but it is related in many ways, that is, a resource is also needed to provide our military-industrial complex, it provides about 80%. all our needs for conducting hostilities, therefore , we do not have to talk about any serious strategic plans in such conditions, and that is why you mentioned three positions that the commander-in-chief says, we need a viko, so the purpose of these strategic defenses of our operation is the first to stop the advance of the enemy, the second to destroy as much as possible

of the equipment and personnel of the enemy and third -