as opposed to, for example, the same turkey, where since the time of atatürk, the military has been a very influential or some kind of very influential corporation, with which erdogan has only recently begun to deal there , 100 years after they strengthened their positions and it was established that this is not the case in ukraine, er, therefore, answering the question directly, it seems to me that in his professional... environment, er, zaluzhny is unlikely to find his political team. it is certain that it will be structured according to traditional ukrainian political ones cleavages, as it is called in political science, or distributions, and a certain part of the ukrainian political, administrative, and business elite, which, well, which is traditional, will simply bet on it. methods, traditional

interests and traditional political positioning, that is, i see this very scenario as the most likely, it is unlikely to be a meeting of generals, i would say so. next week, mr. maksym, the verkhovna rada of ukraine is to start consideration of the updated draft law on mobilization, but the issue of mobilization is called one of those cornerstone stones that prevented zelensky and zaluzhny from finding common ground there. touch, zaluzhny, they say, wanted to carry out mobilization and called the number of people whom they wanted to recruit into the army 500 thousand men, in fact, the same zaluzhny said that it would not be instantaneous, that it would be stretched over time, but it is clear that absolutely one now that the bill on mobilization, it will be difficult enough for zelensky himself. because if he will not

participate and will not be the leader of this process, as the supreme commander, then there is there are a lot of questions for him, as the commander-in-chief, precisely for the commander-in-chief, because this is his area of ​​competence, if he thinks about his political future and something happens with this law that will not allow it to be put into effect, i don't know , he may simply... this law is not signed, just as the law on lowering the age threshold for the mobilized is not signed, i.e. from 27 to 25, this law is also not signed by zelensky, to what extent is this political expediency or impracticality on the part of the presidential team will affect the mobilization, and, accordingly , the course of the russian-ukrainian war, because we understand that it depends on it. or,

say, the intermediate finalization of the russian-ukrainian war? mr. vaksy, in general, this whole story with this draft law and the story with this concept of mobilization and so on, it raises a lot of questions, that is, when it all started, i had a question, well, could it be worse than... to do in this way, in terms of information, this entire campaign than the way it was done, i.e. initially there were videos about as employees of the tsc, they grab people on the street, push them into buses, and eh, that is , at first the tsc was compromised, then rumors appeared about some draconian norms of the future law, they spread at the level of rumors. then a discussion began

between zelenskyi and zaluzhny, that is , it is difficult to imagine the worst case scenario of promoting or selling such a law to society, the question also arises regarding the necessity, that is , mobilization was announced in our country, as is known, on february 204 , 2022, and no one interfered and did not. .. forbade the next waves to be held mobilizations, that is, there are, there are different ones, we were explained all the time that there is a specific strategy, certain specialties, and so on, and so on, there is a certain plan, and then suddenly everything, er, hung up, everything depends on the adoption of some kind of law, in which very ambiguous norms that either will work or won't work, all this is more similar, if you sum it up to some uh... political technology, who

launched such a political technology and what it leads us to, what it leads us to society, i still... do not see clearly, that is, it is either ready, well, a decrease in society's expectations, which should not, well, we remember how we all thought about the great victory that was about to come, about our huge advantage over the russians on the battlefield and so on, but here is the story with this mobilization, it, to me seems to have very significantly lowered expectations in ukrainian society and so on. and perhaps brought us even closer to peace negotiations or to another way of freezing this conflict, well, this is such a conspiracy, but what can be said is already on the surface today, this is actually

the last article of general zaluzhnyi in zeeconomist, which spread through cnn and then to social networks. it has been quoted a lot, says that we need its technological advantage , we need a technological breakthrough, and to some extent this is already a shift of attention and a shift of emphasis from mobilization to its defense industry, let's say this, so how will this situation with the law on mobilization develop and how will it be connected, for example, with the history of the relationship between zelenskyi and zaluzhnyi? it's hard to say today, but you can already see certain, certain plot twists, i would say so, in this story, and perhaps this draft law will not have such a fateful character as it seemed to us a month ago. thank you, mr.

maksym, it was maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and. on facebook, for those who are watching us there right now, please like this video and follow our pages on those platforms, and we're running a poll throughout our broadcast, we're asking you if ukraine problems with freedom of speech, what do you think , everything is quite simple in youtube, yes, no, or write your comment in the e-comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone. vote, everything is quite simple, if you think that such problems exist in ukraine, 0800 211 381, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next

, we have oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal studies, in touch. sir oleksandr, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. this week passed under the sign of the general. zaluzhnyi , whether he will go into politics or not in the future , is unknown, but the fact that we see support, both in social networks and in the society of general zaluzhnyi, probably indicates that the trust rating for zaluzhnyi is a trust rating for armed forces of ukraine. today, the stake of the supreme commander-in-chief took place, zaluzhny. there he spoke, reported on the situation at the front, as reported by the office of the president of ukraine, questions about his resignation was not at the bet of the supreme commander-in-chief, in your opinion, is this resignation delayed in time, or will this

resignation not happen, or after that testing, conditionally speaking, informational testing of society, it’s just that the supreme commander-in-chief will simply... refuse it ? well, i will say that i do not understand the excitement surrounding the rate from the beginning, because the rate is not authorized to consider these issues, and the president does not need the opinion of the rate in order to make certain decisions, that is, it is already a matter of legislation and certain accuracies, i think it was heated because it was brought up to the fact that under the event of the stake and that there the president should stand to announce that i ... the commander in chief, i don't think that will be the case, in the end, because as a matter of fact, the question remains open, i think, to some extent, because , well, let's put it this way, it seems to me that there are certain differences in terms of further

approaches to the conduct of hostilities, and to the concept of these hostilities, and generally to the assessment campaign, as it should be under the resources we currently have, or on which we i expect... and so on, a whole set of issues, perhaps the president of ukraine and volodymyr zelenskyi, and most importantly... the commander of the armed forces of ukraine, general zaluzhnyi, will come to an understanding on these issues and come to an absolute agreement. well, but the fact that, let's say this, these disagreements are certain from the point of view that they sometimes arise even in the public plane, it is noticeable, in fact, and it is also noticeable from the point of view of some military-political assessments of the situation and so on . so i think the question is still open as to which one it's really hard to say whether it's short-term or not. or for a more long-term one, today this intrigue may be preserved in a certain way, although i

think it is possible that it will leave the information space a little somewhere, but here is the question, you understand, here the question is not only resignation or not resignation, here a matter of understanding, assessing the situation and moving in the same direction, that is what is important, that is, unity, it is extremely important, because there may be no resignation. but if there is a situation of misunderstanding and disagreement with certain issues of principle, this is also not the best type of interaction and cooperation, as it seems to me, but if, let's say, we look at this situation, there is a civilian leadership, a political leadership , there is a military leadership, well, during a war, in principle, probably does the military leadership have more competence than the civilian one? the question is not within the competence, well for... the question is that

if we are moving into nato, then i want to remind you that what some military people do not like, i know, is not very impressive when we have the role of the ministry of defense or something else, but that's how we have it written legislation in accordance with nato standards. if we want a different system, we want a management system, and , for example, there, as in russia or in other countries, then we must clearly say that we... abandon the goal of joining the north atlantic alliance. decision-making, you see, is a very difficult thing from the point of view that for all actions, for any actions, the first person, the supreme commander, will always be responsible, and on his shoulders all the responsibility, both civil and military, as it were was not, and so on. and therefore, of course, understanding and appreciating the complex of this responsibility. and certain decisions are adopted or not adopted, well, strictly speaking, this is also a question of delimiting

the function of power, and i want to say that those who talk about the fact that there are military men who understand, i want to tell you, there are historical examples , which do not always testify in favor of the management of military affairs of the state, the management of military affairs is yes, but the examples of the entire state are different. let's go back to what is happening now in russia, because the internal expectations and internal discussions surrounding the military leadership of ukraine distract us from what putin himself is declaring, because this week he announced that he will create a demilitarized zone between russia and ukraine, and the state department of the united states of america, responding to... the russian dictator, declared that for this russia needs to demilitarize the occupied parts

of ukraine. let's listen to this statement. there is no such statement, i am told, the very fact that putin says that the demilitarized zone is what will allow to secure russian cities and russian territory from. from the shots of the armed forces of ukraine, from missiles, from drones , everything else, but on the other hand, mr. oleksandr, if we have long-range missiles, then it turns out that the demilitarized zone will be the size of the whole of ukraine. well, yes, well, this is, strictly speaking, an aspiration, that is , putin has once again confirmed his goals of an aggressive military campaign of war against ukraine, that demilitarization is needed. that is, he does not depart from it, moreover, well, in general, this one

the statement right now i connect with the following three points: nevertheless, please note that reuters admits that how ukrainian drone strikes for two weeks reduce the export of russian oil and the oil and gas industry, this is important, and this is the assessment of reuters, that is, this the assessment is not only ours, i.e. it is an assessment in general of a... neutral country, i.e. also a neutral party, and therefore it seems to me that this is an important point, they began to educate russia, and in this way putin recognizes the increase. ukrainian capabilities and opportunities already to strike, that is, to increase the capabilities of our defense forces, which are implementing a successful successful strategy to strike the russian oil and gas industry, their industry in general, and because i remember very well putin's reaction to the strikes at the time, remember, in may 23

year, they tried to climb the kremlin spire and so on, well, he said so, well, if you think about it, something flew there and so on, he didn’t say anything else, it’s obvious here, it hurt them, and it’s obvious that these questions are being asked , they became more relevant, this is the first moment, the second moment, it seems to me that putin used this factor to say, look, well, the war is , as it were, defensive in our country, we have to defend ourselves, we have to defend ourselves even more, because drones are being fired at us , so let's families in danger and let's consolidate and continue, well, it's just in the background. election campaign statement that we will continue to work on demilitarization, create a demilitarized zone and so on and so on, that is, in this direction there are three components which, actually, as i think it is explained, but first, in the first place, this is what i would say, this is putin's statement, this is

a confirmation that the strikes on their oil and gas facilities, this is the right move. direction, which means that it is definitely necessary to move in this direction, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhny, in his column for cnn , emphasized the problems with ammunition at the front, in particular due to the imperfect system of weapons production in ukraine, which zaluzhny wrote: we remain limited the imperfection of the regulatory and legal framework in our country, as well as the partial monopolization of the defense industry, this... leads to bottlenecks in the production of, for example, ammunition, which further deepens ukraine's dependence on allies in matters of supply. well, ukraine has informed its allies that it is facing a critical shortage of artillery shells, as russia uses three times more firearms on the front every day , bloomberg writes. the question of ammunition, the question of weapons, is

relevant enough in 2024, no less than the question mobilizations or issues. of the future commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , observing the latest decisions of the european union and our western european partners, what can you say, mr. oleksandr, whether the ukrainian army and ukraine will not fall into the crosshairs of the political struggle, including in the united states of america, and whether everything will be enough to... keep the russian occupiers, because this is what we are talking about right now, first of all it must be said that despite everything, but increasing the production of projectiles and there will be ammunition in europe, well, this was confirmed by the head of the european commission, ursula fondeen, she clearly said that additional contracts are still being signed and

there will be production, that is, at least when we talk about europe, demonstrations. the efforts of the countries of the european union, that they are really increasing production volumes, and this is confirmed, that is, this issue remains on the agenda, the only thing that is worth understanding here is that the issue of increasing production and increase is always the same and a matter of time , and this moment, unfortunately, from which will not go anywhere, because in order to systematically increase it now, it really takes a certain amount of time and... you see that the plans that are there, they are calculated so that next year the production of shells will exceed 2 million , this year for 1,200 thousand, for 100 thousand projectiles by the countries of europe, that is , it is actually increased for 3 years and there in the future, maybe even up to 3 million, this is only in the european union, but

the ordinary united states is also important here, so what if we are talking about a million 200 on this… only by europe, well, if the united states had joined with funding and with all the possibilities, maybe there would be 1,500, and this is already, well, let's put it this way, a completely different number, and further on the build-up, that is, this process continues, we are now in a difficult the moment when we received a large number of weapons that were in warehouses in european countries, and we used them, well, to a large extent, because the war is quite intense, we all know that, and now the moment... when it starts, production has already started , and we have to wait, that's how they are are increasing, and, by the way, we are now competing with the aggressor state with russia in this, because they have declared to... increase the production of shells, but putin is going to north korea, that is, putin will ask for shells in north korea, because their production also does not keep up, and we are competing

, we have now also entered the stage from the point of view of the competition here, who will increase faster, in total europe and the usa are able to do it faster than russia and north korea, but of course for this now the key issue is everything still remain. combined states and a $61 billion aid package, because the us has a significant production of 155mm, but now it's a question, well, we know, it's the same with funding and politics, and south korea, if the united states could be convinced, it's now the top, it is among the top ten producers, this country, in particular of shells and other types of weapons that we would also need. by the way, today the politician wrote an article about... that ukraine has also announced and will increase the production of projectiles, well, this is what the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine is talking about, general zaluzhnyi, what should be done

, well, we all understand, obviously there is no need for any argument here, why it should be done, the difficulties of the transition are the same for 155 mm, we did not use it before and we did not produce it for 155 mm, but now it is already it started, well, actually from... last year, from the beginning of this year , well, there are many questions, why we did not prepare for this, this is the first, there is another question about why europe did not expect this and why europe did not think that it would be like this a great war, and that perhaps they will have to fight with russia, as they now say, that is, all the reserves ammunition in western europe we have either partially taken away, and there is no production of them. enough ammunition to even provide for yourself, so how can you explain how the special services, the western special services

could not foresee this? well, what's the matter? the fact is, you understand that everything is very simple, no one calculates, the europeans still do not calculate that they need exactly artillery as a determining means, they know well the plans of the cold war and... they know that a breakthrough in europe was possible, and soviet plans envisaged the use of tactical nuclear weapons. without the use of tactical nuclear weapons, the soviet union did not consider the possibilities and chances of actually breaking through the line there in the corridor in the area of ​​fulda in germany and also breaking through to the exit to denmark, as they planned to block the baltic sea, and then to the south actually through the balkans and beyond. or to france, that is, they did not consider the scenario that it would be impossible to break through other than with tactical nuclear weapons, so the west considered the scenario

the active use of aviation in the doctrine of airland battle in order to counter and strike, where did the idea come from to produce a10 attack aircraft, warthogs, the so-called american ones, it was an idea that the west decided that they could not compete... then with the soviet union in artillery and tanks and must compete with air strikes, and therefore they considered that if the soviet union surrenders to the use of tactical nuclear weapons, for example, with its tulips, artillery means, the west will respond with tactical nuclear weapons by aviation, well, it will strike at them, and accordingly, you understand, all the concepts that followed, they did not foresee the large use of artillery, so... they produced, that is why it was planned in this way, the conduct of hostilities, but i will tell you that history shows that this very approach

that i was talking about, that the west monitored and assessed the degree of threat earlier in the cold war, and now they assess differently, and they rethink, and they are able to adapt quite quickly, flexibly to of changes that occur, and therefore, if now the commander -in-chief of the armed forces... general zaluzhnyi writes that drones play a role, and , for example, robotic systems play a role, they also read it, they also watch, they monitor, they study the ukrainian experience, and they will adapt it to themselves, and they will produce more, it's just that it's a matter of time, and one more quick question, if you can in a minute, answer me, the dprk ordered, kimchinin in kender ordered to step up the training of the navy. before the war, is it possible to develop events there? not now, in fact, the escalation is clear, they are waiting for putin, and the dprk now wants

russia to ... help them improve their own fleet, especially in terms of submarines, submarine programs, underwater torpedoes and missiles that can potentially carry nuclear warheads, and it seems to me that it is precisely in this context that it is now a check, an assessment, because they are waiting for serious help from russia in this very matter, thank you, thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr musienko, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook. if you are watching us there now, please like this video, subscribe to our pages and vote in our poll, we are asking you today if there is a problem with freedom of speech in ukraine, this poll will be in the second part of our program, now we will look at the intermediate results of this poll, 87% yes, 13 no - these are the results of the television poll, in the second part of our program we will have a journalism club, we will have guests bohdan butkevich,

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