the border press writes much more and much more precisely, in much more detail than the ukrainian press, and we understand that most likely a big, big internal conflict is brewing , which, of course, they will try to stir up from all sides, well, first of all , it is about our enemy, so what in your opinion, what is happening in the case of the chairman of the zaluzhny and president zelenskyi, i immediately reacted publicly to this situation and... i felt, as a person who knows banking, these processes, how it happens there, it was clear to me that the issue of resignation is only the question of time, i.e. not the transience of the resignation is completely clear to me, and to the logical question, but how so, what are they thinking there, i can say that every politician has the constitutional right in ukraine and in the world to choose the path of political suicide .

and the president has this right, it is his constitutional right. no matter how much you and i analyze the pros and cons here, about a year ago, as experts from the inner circle said, andrii, well, this is the same andrii yermak, drew the attention of the president and all his friends to the ratings of the hard worker, and they were right, but we somehow and not thought, but action is your internal ukrainian problem, i already had more than one conversation, literally before... with you, i talked there with correspondents from paris, had several conversations with western agencies, so they understand, they are alarmed, but they have approximately the same situation, that this is an internal ukrainian problem, and they hope that this problem will be solved with honor, we also perfectly understand the risks, but i repeat, you and i are like this here, we are like this here... weevils sit , i think that there are

also, well, no, no, or not all are stupid, in me one question arises, did they not anticipate the option that the hard-working person will refuse to play along and submit a statement, a statement on style, i don’t understand this for sure, that means communicators, pr people are all from god, because if there is a leak, if it happened, i have no doubt , that the conversation took place, if such a conversation took place, well, what... it was impossible to predict that zuluzne would refuse and that 's not to take this week, about which the cnn says that this resignation will happen this week. in short, it is clear to me that the scenario probably did not go as smoothly as i wanted to, it is clear to me that this is a political mistake, i have no doubt about it , i honestly do not understand what the people who say, maybe... they will lose their minds,

who will lose their minds and what will they lose their minds, are hoping for as you can imagine, here you are the president, i am your military man, your military right-hand man, the chief defense adviser, you call me, tell me about my resignation, i refuse, and then we continue to cooperate as if nothing had happened, this does not happen, this does not happen in much more mature political institutions and obviously, this cannot be the case in the atmosphere of the bank. which now reigns there in this yermachatnyk, who a year ago began to talk about ambitions, and again in ukrainian history, the history of ukrainian presidents, this situation was repeated more than once, when, for example, tymoshenko's conditional imprisonment there obviously promised to be a downfall for yanukovych , and he understood it, because i told you once, he told me for a long time, before he was prime minister, what mistake kut made.

"when he put his opponent in prison, well we're not talking about prison with an addict, but we're talking about how you act as president with someone you don't like, and yanukovych clearly said then that the best way to neutralize tymoshenko is to just not touch her, because she, she is like a plant without the sun withers in the information blockade, but then he became the president, planted and how did it end, the situation with yushchenko. and kuchma are very similar, when i had a conversation with pinchuk, when it was already clear that it was about resignation, i told him said, well, listen, well, then you retire the prime minister, who liked being the prime minister, now a couple of months will pass, the parliamentary elections begin, well , we will go to the parliamentary elections, we will definitely win these elections and then yushchenko will be the president, why are you doing this, what seemed clear to me is not clear to them , but this story repeats itself, i am not saying that the meritorious duty... who will make a political

career there, i do not even know which one a politician, he is not very public anymore, he is enough, he is like that, he, he is like that, well, a creator our imagination and in ukrainian history lutsenko often became like that, then there, well, i don’t know, then tigipko was such a leader, klitschko was, aristovych was a year ago, that is, you see that there are unknown trajectories, so you and i cannot project the future fate, but what makes this situation particularly expressive is that we have a war, we cannot afford to measure this situation only in the categories of the political process, well... because de facto our political process is quite stable, it is almost non-existent, that is there are questions for the government, questions offices and so on and so forth, it is not about politics, it is about certain functions that are performed, but the issue of war, the issue of responsibility that will lie on very

specific people who would dare to take this responsibility on themselves, and in any - in any case, we understand that in addition to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. also the supreme commander-in-chief, and this is where questions may arise, in particular from our partners. that is , it is obvious that this event, well, first of all, when we appeal to our partners and say: good people, what do you do there, how long have you been there you can agree on something there, avoid escalation, the war is already breaking at your door, and you are doing stupid things, so the war is already in our house, and we do not deny ourselves the opportunity to occupy it. internal nonsense, that is, as such, created on a fairly equal footing , but again, if we analyze the western partners, then yes, the industrious there has great authority among the military leadership, but in the western military it is, in principle, a taboo,

they understand these rules, western military, we are not latin america, we have a junta, juntas are not practiced, ours the practice is excellent and so... the western military will work with whoever comes in the place of the savior, that is, even if they don't like it, but what's happening is that it's such a pivotal moment in the war with all these american dances, who we give arguments to in favor of support, not support of ukraine, as always we create a problem not for our opponents, but we create a problem for our friends, this is also our infamous tradition of making life difficult for our own. during discussions in the congress, there are all kinds of orban with fiats in the european the union, it takes some time to revive that relationship, it takes some time to work effectively again on a personal level, that cooperation between the new

commander in chief and his colleagues among nato countries, it takes time that we don't have, and it's happening at a moment almost critical when the funding decision is made there tomorrow. of ukraine there by the european union, i think that it will inevitably be positive, i have become more careful with the forecasts of american aid, because there they have already begun to speak openly, no longer without masking, they began to openly say that we cannot sign this contract, because it is a gift to biden, but it is better to wait until trump becomes president, he will come and solve everything, they did not even begin to hide it, i do not know how it will end, but a week ago... . there were more optimistic scenarios, there were signals that an agreement was about to be reached, and there was the impression that american politicians were really competing for who would be better prepared for the challenges of illegal migration there, it turns out that it is not about migration at all, but about the fact that you can't be a political opponent

to give such a trump card, if we gave him such a trump card, then why should we go to the elections? this is approximately the logic of the american political elites of the republicans, not only that, they absolutely killed me there. there is the decision of the regional committee of the oklahoma republican party, which threatened its senator for the fact that he publicly supported the need for a treaty and the introduction of an aid package to ukraine and others, as treason in relation to candidate trump, and threatened him with stopping funding, well, that's enough for me called, come out, the beautiful people's governor of the state. haas and accordingly, 25 other governors who supported him in his unstoppable desire to use the american constitution for its intended purpose, whose border is the power, whose power, the border. yes, and we understand that the situation in the states is much less stable than

we would like or think. let's project to what, to the fact that trump, in fact, having lost the elections in the 20th year, still did not recognize them, the result. now he has actually threatened that if his victory is not recognized, then these 25 states, these national, that is, he actually threatened, well, really. by the division of the country, it is not , not a civil war, as rusnyak tries to say there, but having undermined the foundations of democracy and not being punished for the fact that he actually supported the coup d'état, treason, on january 6, trump is now openly calling on his supporters with weapons in hands to defend his truth, and his truth is this, you all know that the victory was stolen from me and continued... that is why the situation now appears when we are going to the elections and regardless

of what will happen in the elections, it is possible it is safe to predict what will happen next with american democracy, and american democracy did not have such risks, well, probably since the founding of its state, during the time of abraham rincoln, there was no such thing, such a very serious split, and here, in the current situation of american turbulence, we have appear unstoppable emotional initiatives, well, i am still bigger, maybe an optimist, i want to believe that maybe somehow it will not go according to the scenario described by mykola vasyliovych gogol, an outstanding ukrainian the writer in his outstanding work, how ivan ivanovich and ivan nikifurovich quarreled with each other, you remember, and that no matter what was done, the rift deepened, but this could have consequences in the attitudes, which are called that... military command, generals , generals are people who perceive the situation

through the prism of war, through the prism of death, through the prism of security and trust. well, it must be said that this factor, including openly analyzed in the western media, is that among the ukrainian military, the authority tin is very high. for different things, again, i don't know him, you don't know him, he's not public. but obviously you and i are not in the armed forces, we do not feel this style on our own skin, but they do, and they say, in particular, that there are attempts to place the commander of the ground forces there - this is an absolutely unacceptable situation, although it is a favorite, in particular, of the office of the president and the same ermak, and this is a serious question, because i don't think, again, we are not latin america, our military, they are as patriotic as possible, they will... to fulfill their obligations, but the peculiarity of the model of the current government of this

team, which came to the bank, is that it is almost nothing, but it measures the public mood on a daily basis, and of course they have a certain program there, where it will unfold according to such a scenario that after the dismissal of the industrious person, there will be a whole information storm...panic, storm, i don't know, an information typhoon, which will try to transfer to the team, not only to the industrious person, to his team, because there, after the dismissal of the headmaster, they always follow him deputies, and there will be this attempt to transfer responsibility, and society is ready for this attempt, and the authorities are preparing for this attempt, but the moment of trust is definitely not on the side of the authorities, further... sooner or later we will have elections and i again affirm , that our military, they will be faithful to their oath

, they will not fail to undermine the country's defense capabilities, they will defend their freedom, protect their families, their lands, but the moment will come, the moment of elections, and here in ukraine, since this french your colleague tried to ask if i was afraid authoritarianism, the return of authoritarianism in ukraine and... i will honestly tell you that i was in yanukovych's time, especially, personally, i was not afraid of it, i saw that many ukrainians did not see that we did not overestimate, we understood the threats, but for it was not a question of retreating for us, because authoritarianism threatens responsibility in every democracy, you have to go to the elections and you have to gain the trust of the voters, here i have serious problems, serious questions, i don't know how it will end from the point of view from the point of view of military tactics. hypothetically, maybe maybe something will be better, because you and i understand that

there are enough problems in the ministry of defense, and the military will tell you how much is being done wrong there, but we are talking about the fact that responsibility will not succeed, it will not be possible to transfer it to any scumbags if the ermaks fail to shift the responsibility from the shoulders of politicians to the shoulders of the military, this will definitely not be accepted by society, because everyone is wrong. that the military must have these resources in order to accomplish the tasks set before them. if you challenge them there to knock out the enemy from the territory of the country, and not to provide them with resources, then somewhere. it was written in one of the publications that zaluzhny directly told the minister of defense, well, what is your task, that provision is your political task, my task is to fight with the resources that i have at my disposal, and the military understands this perfectly, and here there is no other way to interpret it, the general staff cannot, the military cannot take on the problems

of providing resources, mobilization, military, political, everything... can be done, when you work as a team, and i repeat, since such a team no longer exists, i simply do not imagine the possibility of theoretical cooperation between the commander-in-chief and the commander-in-chief, when they have already had such a conversation. istanbul, what could be happening now in istanbul, because putin is going to erdogan in the coming weeks, yes, and we understand that they will talk not only about the affairs of the caucasus. and not only about the affairs of the middle east, we understand that putin will try to use erdogan for his own purposes, yes, and accordingly erdogan will try to do something symmetrical with putin, and of course they will also talk about the black sea transit. well, what can i say , yes, erdogan, he secured probably his last presidency, i don't

think even he thinks he can go for another term, it was the hardest race. for him, he is also politically calm, that is, he can take risks , what putin can offer him, and i don’t know god, but i know what, for example, america offers him, america offers him to sign contracts for the supply of f-35s, which now there, the americans sold turkey’s sworn partners to the greeks, and nato partners, and in obin the americans expect that those s-400s, which... eh, erdoğan bought, in my opinion, there are eight or so divisions that he bought from russia, and which turned out to be far from a miracle weapon, that these installations can get to some third country, and then get to ukraine. this is what i see, i see what america offers and what erdogan has to weigh, and i don't understand what

putin would offer him, where he would have advantages, because i am fine. i know the mentality turetskyi, at one time i headed the turkish-ukrainian governmental, intergovernmental commission there, and the turks are very pragmatic people, for them integration is the expansion of trade, they think in categories, the promotion of their own business, their own interests, the expansion of their own markets, and here kill me, i do not understand what putin can offer such a thing, that is why a serious struggle has begun here and we already see what is being proposed, we see that on the eve of putin's visit to anka... frank information about the possibility of erdogan his dream, to buy non-modern aircraft , sign profitable contracts and get closer , if not politically, then commercially with the european union and improve his relations with nato, this is what i see, on the other hand, putin, he is not yet about peacekeeping, it is not about peacekeeping , any

initiatives of erdoğan? i now have a very weak idea of ​​why... what is good for erdogan, what can erdogan add to what happened? at one time, he convinced that this border is this transit through the black sea, he acted as a broker, and he believed that it was absolutely necessary to invite russia, russia was invited, but not in that direction and sent in a completely different direction , the corridor works, the whole world recognized that the corridor works, ukraine proved it, and erdogan did not interfere with it, as a matter of fact, a certain soft coalition was created . and erdogan was also in this coalition, that is, this card is removed, ukraine actually unblocked, and the chances that putin will be able to threaten something there, attack some international tankers, with his, well, if not completely, then half-destroyed fleet, those odds are now simple

have decreased many times, so it is no longer a game for erdogan, i don't understand what erdogan is doing here. can bring additional ukraine's position is quite clear, we also understand that we can have negotiations, but after certain efforts, so there may be something here, well, something will have to be said at the press conference, but i am up to the fact that some erdogan does not have such, well, unbeaten, trump cards at the moment either, he can speak with, well, with fairly predictable general appeals to what needs to be achieved... money, but on the other hand, i don't i think that he can, like orban or like fizo, repeat the mantra that the occupied territories must be returned to the russians, it is not in his interest at all. yes, mr. oleg , well, the key story is erdogan only as a certain segment of an extremely complex game, yes, well

, i would like to believe that now in the current situation we can count on additional support, well, the french were amused, in particular, it is about missile systems, the british are holding steady , so in the united states, not to know that with the poles, we seemed to measure back and the situation stabilized. with the help of donald tusk. the germans pay and support and do it stably. thank god ot. and what trump cards we have. because the situation is not easy. and we understand that our western partners would also like to receive understandable signals. from our side. well, here is the problem. here the problem is what to consider caser cards. because this situation, again around time. i'm not saying it's somehow fatal from a point of view. from the point of view of the interests of ukraine, but it definitely makes it much more difficult if we measure every step of the government whether it brings us closer to victory or makes it more difficult for us to win, the current

situation makes it difficult, and the only thing we can hope for is that, what i personally hope for, is that this mantra that the president repeats at every step, that we are reliable partners, we will definitely fulfill... all the things we promised, despite all the difficulties, we will definitely carry out these reforms, this is what the european union is saying, what nato is saying. and in my meetings with representatives of nato and the european union, i say that listen, well, now it is necessary it is quite hard to monitor, you cannot now pretend that you believe some things that were announced, but were not done. the ukrainian government now feels... from society, and it feels this from society, well, knyazev was given enough money to get the poor guy out of his cell, and that's for a second, well, it's just

some concentrated symbol of corruption in the newly created, reformed supreme court, and such things as with the prince happen, well , at every step, people are appointed outside the competition, that is, the outspoken person rushes a challenge because... we promised to do, instead of making the reforms we promised according to the recipes that are known to everyone, we are trying to imitate them, we are told that this time the imitation will not pass, for some reason it seems to them, that it is possible to simply shift responsibility through pr technology, they think that the world will simply swallow it, because there is no way out, and we must understand that this is our obligation when we undertook the obligation... according to the european integration , the basic things are exactly this governance, this is exactly it these independent courts, this is precisely the balancing

of the branches of government, this is not the interference of one branch of government in another, this is judicial reform, this is a bunch of things that are not happening now, but without progress in this direction, after we get a political decision there about funding, it does not mean at all that we will automatically receive funds, look again at orbán. the european union has accumulated experience, i think that orbán will be the first example of what is done with those leaders who have already promised, became members of the european union, became members of nato, but then they brazenly ignore all these promises and violate the basic principles, then in ukraine these threats also do not go anywhere, and the people who are at the head of the ukrainian government, who need funds, who need help, cannot help but understand this, i do not know where that moment because... when zelenskyi realizes that it is impossible to drag the country on six crutches, if he believes that these are his six advisers, that this is what ukraine stands on, this is a colossal

mistake, no one in the world thinks so, if he will still expect that these are the people will pull the country, they are pulling it, but they are pulling it not at all where zelensky would have hoped, this formula is not working, and this is an internal issue of ukraine, and this is also an issue of the opposition. but the public is talking about it more and more loudly, they are talking about it more and more at the meetings held there by representatives of the ukrainian government with european and american politicians, and this is the question of the ability of the ukrainian government to actually fulfill its promises and the ability of the ukrainian government to become a reliable partner of the european union and nato , because with such a management formula, well , questions arise here, and what about victoria nulan, the deputy secretary of state of the united states? brought to kyiv on political issues, well, the visit is important and not for nothing, that is, what biden and blinkin could say, well , i think she voiced it, very precisely, i did so in...

yesterday i will explain to your colleagues , because i have the experience of meeting viktoriyalan there, she is such an iron lady, of american diplomacy, and she is characterized by the fact that she does not choose words in particular, and the fact that, because your colleague is there asked that maybe blinken should have been there, but the very fact that it was not blinken, but victoria noland, gives me a great reason, as well as you, to understand that she said approximately what we are talking about with... now with you, she can very concretely and very specifically make it clear in the same words about the consequences of an unreliable partnership on the part of ukraine, she is the kind of person who has the experience, strength and desire for this, she is exactly that type of diplomat, and i think that her visit, which is practically non-public there, he says a lot precisely

with this non-publicity, and the moment which... selected for this visit is very characteristic and very timely, so i am sure that zelensky heard things that, perhaps, for diplomatic reasons, blinken would not even begin to talk about. thank you very much, mr. oleg , for this extremely useful and interesting conversation, i want to remind our viewers that oleg hrybachuk , the former chief of the secretariat of viktor yushchenko, the president, and of course, the former vice prime minister for european integration, was currently working on espresso , and... also the co-founder of the honestly movement. there are discounts on lozenges iceland, 15% in pharmacies plantain, bam and savings laughter, physical activity, sneezing. even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make itself felt. feminost uro helped me. thanks to the natural components of feminost uro

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