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that this is schizophrenia, because it is a split personality, so how is it possible, how is it possible to support this magarukh and at the same time support ukraine, i do not understand what is in people's heads, i just understand that modern methods of influencing people's consciousness, there are so many of them that it is very easy to program people's consciousness in some ... let's say, dark, dark side, when people simply stop understanding reality, and live in some very millions of people, tens, hundreds of millions of people, and all over the world, ah, somehow they move to virtual reality, so instead of, instead of the real world, they see some virtual world, just like many supporters of donald trump, they see the world that trump paints for them and
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believe that this world exists, that , that everything is so and so, as, as he paints, exactly as trump paints, and unfortunately, there are really a lot of such people, tens of millions of them in the united states, and hundreds of millions of them in the world, and what about that to do, you know, like how timati snyder recently said, what you can do about it is just, what, spread the truth real information, and to the teacher. people so that they can draw correct conclusions from real facts, firstly, so that people receive real facts and can draw correct conclusions from these real facts. well, if we talk about the status of the election campaign in general, now in the united states, mr. igor, should nikigel be written off, because the primaries from the caucus show that, in principle , biden is really from the democrats, and mostly from the republicans.
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trump has success, but there are other candidates and whether everything is decided for them according to your feeling and on your opinion well, the democrats actually have one candidate, dean phillips, a congressman from minnesota, and his only complaint against joe biden is that he thinks joe biden is too old to be president, well, that's not taken seriously by the vast majority voters democrats, of course, this will be confirmed, today the democratic primaries are held in south carolina, and the republicans, look, niki haley, in my opinion, have no chance if trump does not remain the candidate, that is, if somehow so, say, because of the court verdicts, it's not going to turn out that he's going to be ineligible because the republican... party primaries, they
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're held like average, regular, registered republicans, come and vote, most of the average the republicans support donald trump and so they have almost no chance of winning the primaries, maybe, maybe there might be some chance in the blue democratic states where there are more of these more centrist republicans, well let's say she had such a chance... in the state new hampshire. the state of new hampshire is a liberal state, so moderately democratic. there are more moderate republicans. and there she received almost 44% of the votes of those who participated in the primaries, although in the state of new hampshire the primaries are open, not only party voters can participate in them, but anyone can come and say: here is an independent voter, i want, i want to take participation in the primaries of the republican party. what was interesting in new hampshire was that... these independents
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who participated in these primaries, and 70% of them voted for nicky hale, only 30% for trump, because of this support of independent voters, trump has a chance of winning the elections in november, well, there are none, if there is such a level of support of independent voters at the level of 30 or 40%, as according to the survey that was conducted, the results of which were posted on friday, it's not enough to win. to win the national elections, but for geli the decisive moment will be the primaries, which will be in her home state, south carolina, where the republican primary will be on february 24, the second anniversary a full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, and if she can't win in her home state, or at least not fall far behind trump, then of course, i think she 'll drop out of the campaign pretty quickly after that. mr. igor, thank you, igor
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valery zaluzhnyi also states this in his material for cnn, so it has already happened that all these events and all these discussions. circles of these events merged into one, i don't know, whirlpool in the information space this week. mr. vitaly, can this be called something culminating on the eve of, perhaps, really some changes, you see, in principle, we are talking for sure about what will happen around the reformation of the military and political leadership of the country, because we understand that this is a plan for a major reformation of the military and political leader. country and even you and i should be aware of what it is connected with, it is connected with march 30, with the end of constitutional powers of the president of ukraine. this is such a reality , it does not seem serious to you and me, but to volodymyr zelenskyi and his entourage, it seems serious, because by
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and large, it must also be clearly said: the constitution of ukraine does not give an answer to the question of what the powers of the president look like. after their end. regarding the parliament, there is an absolutely clear formula that the parliament continues its powers until the moment. when the new deputies of the new verkhovna rada will take the oath, so what is this parliament such exists, if it will have a sufficient number of votes to make decisions, it can work at least until 2049, and such precedents, by the way, were in the history of many countries, for example, the parliament of the republic of china in taiwan, there the deputies for many years represented territories that the republic of china has not been in control for a long time, but... from a constitutional point of view, they had all the rights, but they were elected from different strange districts, that is, it can
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be told for a long time, but i will not dwell on it now, i will just say that this is it such a situation, for the president it is a different situation, you and i clearly understand how it should be, that the president must fulfill his powers until the new elections of the head of state, whenever they are, because all of us , as citizens, simply want the president ... as a legitimate leader of the state, as an institution, he ensured, if you like , the continuity of the power institutions until the end of the war and before new elections, but this is us and you, and now look at it with the eyes of, let's say, the president and his entourage, they are on their own judge how they treat the situation, here they are they think, what would we do in such a situation , we would be in the opposition, but in power , if poroshenko or yulia tymoshenko were in power, they would take advantage and put pressure on the fact that they were constitutional, they would appeal to
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the people, they would shake up the situation , and they will certainly do it, and our critics will say what kind of president this is, he has run out of authority, he has turned into this, a duck, and russia will say this, and they will listen to them, and our western allies will be unsure , because we need to make this about... simple program of actions, if you just sit in the seat of some adviser, then you imagine that you are zelensky there, and i am your adviser who meets with you, they say that only one person meets with him periodically, and we know her last name, but it does not matter, we are now considering a theoretical situation with you, how to preserve power in such a critical situation, the first is the reformatting of the flight. and the military leadership so that none of its representatives poses any
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threat to you, that is, so that no one thinks that looking at these people, but the chairman of the verkhovna rada can be the acting president, and moreover, even if there is a situation in which the chairman of the verkhovna rada will be the acting president, so that it is a controlled chairman, completely, it is with us is. no, i don't know, i think we are considering everything hypothetically, we are hypothetically considering this, you think that it exists, and i think that it is not, that the replacement of the chairman of the verkhovna rada is also on time, on time, that is , it is planned, or i mean from this point of view, i would be in the current place the chairman of the verkhovna rada would understand that he has been working for the last months, uh, because he looks like, look at the chairman of the verkhovna rada, mr. stefanchuk, it just depends on the situation, can such a person... be called acting as the president of ukraine, you assumed this
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person who, who, to be called based on what is written in our constitution, on the very figure, well, he does not look like a person who is capable of performing the duties of the president, i think that he looks, well quite, well, that is, it should be such a person who will not look, okay, now you said that quite, well, i just didn't even understand what the question was. hands, legs, head, this is the verdict, you now him, but now you watched it somewhere in the president's office, and it was you who now sentenced stefanchuk, you should have said no, under no circumstances, if you wanted him well, no, you what, you do, vitaly, what kind of acting president he is, look at him, you should have said that, you didn't, it was a provocation, but this provocation is not for you bad, and for mr. stefanchuk, his political future, it means that there will be someone else whom you will say no to, and until... until that moment there will be changes of speakers until such a person appears, they will try, once change of prime minister
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and government officials, the prime minister has been around long enough, the prime minister, despite all his anonymity, can be perceived as a real prime minister, must not be real, at all. third, the change of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. if the current commander-in-chief has one a high level of trust in society. it just has to be the commander-in-chief, it has nothing to do with the war, nor with military efficiency, nor with anything, we can discuss the issue of the military efficiency of the lieutenant separately, with experts, it is important. an unpopular speaker of the parliament , an extremely unpopular prime minister, this one may also remain in such a situation, an unpopular commander-in-chief of the armed forces, everyone must be unpopular, only one
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person can be popular in the country, one, from the point of view of doubts about legitimacy. which, let's say, i don't have, here i am clearly, i have no doubts about the legitimacy of volodymyr zelenskyi, and he may have, this about, this problem is not in me, not in you, not in poroshenko, not in tymoshenko, not in zuluzhny, not in stefanchuk, this problem in one person, and in the one who surrounds him and who can tell him this, imagine , mr. president, what will be in the flower? any person who will be popular, and can we count on our deputies, but we hear that we can't count on them, there is no unity, ugh, and this is the whole process and going, in fact, this is not a story about zaluchny, this is a story about the need to preserve power in the conditions of the expiration of the term
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of legitimacy, it is not a story about the armed forces, and that is terrible, you know? yes, because the war comes first, because the war comes first, because the people who occupy high positions in ukraine do not live in the world of war, in the world of the need to extend their term of office, to preserve power after the war. this is some kind of, you know, stubborn confidence that ukraine is no longer in danger, and nothing will happen, no, there is no such confidence, i think the more the more. well, you understand, these people have never lived in reality, there is a huge problem. the vast majority of ukrainians have never lived in reality. there. volodymyr zelenskyi, his entourage, are representatives of this overwhelming majority, because they won, and they continue to perceive the world somehow differently. here we see in this book by simon schuster that
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zelensky was convinced that sooner or later he would come to an agreement with putin. even after butch, i don't know how true that is, but i take schuster as a witness, let's say, just as a witness, and i understand in principle why this is so, because if we agree that the president is a tyrant of the sentiments of average ukrainians, then he does not understand the reasons why the president of russia started this war, and all the time he is looking for causes and may think that overcoming the causes... can lead to the end of the conflict, and the russians, by the way, have already begun to say out loud why they started the war, because you know, they made some passes with their hands, feet, wrote some articles, told about peace in donbas, in the end they already broke tolerant, because they, they also began to understand that others do not understand the reasons, that
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others take all this, i would say bullshit that they say at face value. crimea, donbass , but today there is president duda, an experienced politician, crimea has historical ties with russia, so it probably cannot be simply liberated, and donetsk and luhansk, for sure, do not have such historical ties, so they are easier, you see, this is schizophrenia, why do we talk exclusively about our president, when the presidents of neighboring countries are also crazy, which come from some absolutely incomprehensible reasons, not from the point of view of international law, but from the point of view of what is dearer to... the heart of a russian, so, probably, russians love crimea. i would like to tell president duda that warsaw and lublin were also part of russia in general, and from this point of view they too can be difficult to liberate when they are occupied, but he does not think so. he is absolutely sure that poland is poland, donbas is donbas, and crimea is something else. the russians themselves convinced president duda or someone there with their inventions
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another is that it is a reality. and the former president medvedev is already speaking. the very existence of ukraine. and is the cause of our war, well i already said, if they tell you this, it is about, you know, like a jew in the constabulary, he goes around and tries to understand what is wrong with him, maybe he is not so shaved, maybe he is not so combed, maybe he is not so circumcised, maybe he prays, but you shouldn't pray, maybe you shouldn't read goethe, but he just exists, he just exists, so you can go look for 150, ukraine just exists, that's why its war with the russian federation. this is an existential conflict that can end either with the disappearance of ukraine, or with ukraine fighting back from russia. everything, everything, there will be nothing more, it must be clearly understood, either life or death, not victory. either ukraine will stop russia somewhere at some stage, and russia will understand that it will not be able to break through, or russia will destroy ukraine,
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this, it has already happened in history, we have been hit several times, i offer a simple analogy, it is called a miracle on a donkey, ugh, troops of marshal mykhailo tukhachevsky near warsaw, a puppet government of poland was created. by the way, like myriad they were going to do it in 2022 with yanukovych, medvedchuk and this entire company, ukrainians, by the way, all ethnic, well, felix kohn, felix dzirzynski, all this navoloch are already sitting in the wagon and waiting for them to rule this pseudo-poland, which will be created after the occupation by the bolsheviks, and here marshal pilsudski and other polish military leaders simply expel tukhachevsky. from poland, they are being expelled, unfortunately, there was not enough strength to expel this gang from ukraine, but
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they were expelled from poland, and then after some time there was a peace agreement there, because bolshevik russia simply realized that she would not be able to occupy poland, by the way, it is not completely clear, no, not definitively, how they just sat and waited for a new opportunity, so if you sign, relatively speaking, a russian-ukrainian peace treaty... and do not become members of any of its defense alliances, do not repeat this mantra that we do not want to leave this war to our grandchildren, the grandchildren will definitely die in the next russian-ukrainian war, definitely, well , some will die, some will not die, but some part will die, they have no chance to survive, because russia will wait for the moment, as it was waiting now for the moment from 91 to 2014, then from 14 to 20? they were waiting for the moment for a big blow, yes, if this war ends in 2020 some year, and ukraine will not become a member of nato, but will simply be some kind
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of neutral state, just so that you have no doubts, as soon as the ukrainian state will be weak , they will attack immediately, that's all, they may attack at the wrong moment, there may just be some period of democratic russia, everyone will kiss, eat cakes, they will remember the russian language, oh, repent, all that, and then a new putin will appear and attack, and that's it, and the whole war will be with the grandchildren, and the grandchildren will say: oh, what a pity that our grandfathers did not join nato , well, there were no such geopolitical opportunities, well, nothing, we take these, there will be some new weapons, high-tech, some missiles, we shoot here, there, we lose one area, we take another, and there, uh, we sign a peace agreement with. .. with our beloved brothers, so that they attack us again in 20 years, they are like that, that's it, forget about negotiations and forget about the peaceful settlement of the conflict, there is
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a chance to fight back, and there is a chance after that, this opportunity, again, these are not very big chances, but they are there, and by the way, if he is talking about the military component, the general always clearly says how, huh , to use such chances , and after that to think about the guarantee of security, that is, the biggest guarantee... a more practical guarantee of security, so that they think, even if it is a myth, that if they attack us, they will all die, well, it will be there's a nuclear war, ugh, nothing left, that's the only thing stops them, because a large number of victims does not stop them, this is normal, but if everything is simply the existential death of great russia, we do not need a world, as you know, where there is no russia, we need a world where there is russia, that means that. .. maxim, why didn’t they attack poland after the 20th year, because they realized that if they attacked poland again, the bolshevik regime could collapse,
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why do we need a world without soviet russia, we don’t need such a world, why didn't they attack finland after 18-20 years there, because from the side of finland yudenich's army went against them once, and the finns did not support yudenich's army, but these idiotic bolshevik leaders from... understood that if they started to fight with finland at this moment, and some yudenich's army would go to kronstadt will attack petrograd, and everyone there will be destroyed, pain will take control of this part of northern russia, then the bolshevik government may fall, then let finland be an independent country, we are nothing, we are only for 20 years, in the 39th that's all for the year, we don't need any democratic finland anymore, already the government of the finnish democratic republic, just like this song... we rather believe these mean yours.
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to open trustingly, as in the door, you understand, trustingly, and if not trustingly, then the door will be trustingly, your wide yards are important to us some discomfort, and we have to come trustingly and destroy all of you, just open, well, that means we we are dealing with such a wonderful neighboring country, which is simply stuck in the middle ages, but it is like that, well, there is no other russia, we are not on an island, it is not madagascar, although in principle. they wanted jews to resettle, you know our polish neighbors for at least the 30s, i still think that maybe it would have been better to have resettled, but it’s like that, there is no russia nearby and all that is not there, but just kidding, but we really are not in madagascar, everyone, not only the jews in madagascar, and the ukrainians do not live in madagascar, which means that we will have to be here, so here is such a border, such a country, such a population, you know what...
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is happening in russia, in liberal russia , the last weeks, i would like to talk to you separately about this, put on hope, take off hope, no, that’s all, that’s it, now the main topic for all educated russians is the new screen adaptation of master margarita’s film, and my god, seriously, of course, you see, even from the context, that’s what it means, and it’s an incredible thing, because i feel myself again, as in childhood, when i was little, ugh, you... another film adaptation of the master and margarita, and everyone, that is, around, especially the moscow critics, said, master margarita, that means slap on everything this authoritarian regime, how they allowed it, how they played it, how they didn't it's a shame for these soviet leaders to look at themselves in this film, it's about them, all these patriotic critics said, how can such a thing be released on the screens, by the way, the director of this film became one of the main critics of ukraine
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and i... it's called bortko seems to be a member of the state duma. and that's not all. the current director of this film is an american citizen. ugh, and the producers of this film have already applied, the producers of the film, masters margarita, have applied with a collective letter, and they say that it is necessary to remove this film from distribution, because it turns out anti-russian, they didn't know when they funded it, there's a moment in the movie itself, i watched it, i was just wondering how it all looks now. and when it means there , this master is criticized at the meeting of the writers' union for the wrong work, and the editor-in-chief of the magazine in which the work was published stands up and says that it is a terrible work and that the entire circulation of his magazine, in which it was printed according to his decision, should be burned, and these producers simply perform in real life life scenes from this film and everyone is discussing it and i and it may seem like something a sign of freedom of thought, if it did not happen
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again every 20 years. the same thing, the question arises, what have you been doing for 20 years, what is in yours at all, how can it be that you are discussing all this? then, here is such a brave actor, you know, leonid yarmolnyk, who currently supports the war in ukraine, he , then, in this previous film, the master and margarita, played one of the representatives of this world, volend, and everyone said, well, what kind of person is this she played in the master... they showed what evil is, and now she supports evil in the new one screen adaptation, yarmolnyk also plays, plays a doctor, a sadist, who, therefore, tortures honest people, writers, those who, therefore, are against all this horror in a psychiatric hospital, simultaneously plays, simultaneously in real life behaves like this sadistic doctor, again, is , so it's some kind of, you know, i would say it's
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dementia. but i like the other image more, the image of dementors in harry potter, these people just feed on death and they feel some incredible pleasure, and i will tell you that when i watched it, i think my god, i’m watching it now not even for aesthetic reasons, but for professional reasons, but since i was 10 years old, when i began to study all this, read it, even there from... i read all the time and see, in fact, when i touch in russia, the same thing: trials, denunciations , denial denies what he did, this is a must, the most terrible person is the one who does not deny and is shot, today you support the regime, tomorrow you are imprisoned for what have you been supporting you can't keep up with the rule change ugh people who stay in russia they say that...
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