understand and sympathize and somehow try to be useful, there is progress here, those who were immersed in all these pro-russian circles, it is more difficult with them, because well, the french are not at all the kind of people who like to work on their mistakes and admit that they they didn't know something, they made a mistake somewhere, and it doesn't really correspond to the national tradition, that's why it's more difficult with them, because they start to tell there, well, why did you take pushkin there and dump him, pushkin is innocent, he is such a beautiful poet there, why you are such deacons, that is they still do not want to admit their co-responsibility for the fact that people who had to, well, positioned themselves as, let's say, connoisseurs of russian culture, literature , society, did not warn about what modern russian society is turning into, how dangerous it is becoming, and for itself, but also for all the states that are located on... on the border with russia and also

for all other states, because russia's activity in africa and, let's say, in the information space of the western world, it is not friendly at all, and people who are specialists in this topic, they carry co-responsibility for the fact that they did not sufficiently warn their authorities, their people, their states about russian security. by the way, this expansion of russia in africa, it somehow paid for the attitude. france, at least the french elite there before moscow, yes, yes, yes, they really did not like everything that happened in mali, everything that happened in burkina faso, everything that can happen now in senegal, because the elections on the 24th , it seems february, if i am not mistaken, and there the russians are also trying to promote their interests, of course, because they are interested in deposits, as always in africa, and they are trying in every possible way to fuel the anti-french. mood, to present

the french as such cruel ruthless colonizers, forgetting to say that they are just as ruthless colonizers, and even worse, because much, shall we say, wilder. if we talk about what happened, to what extent france can think that it is able to come to an understanding with russia, as he once said about it, it seems to me, and the president himself, i think, they have no hope. at the political level, no, but it is big business, after all a little dreams of returning to those contracts that were there, to all these joint productions, there he made large total investments in yamal, there other large concerns also invested in the production of naphtha gas, liquefied gas there, these are all things, it is clear that, well, let's remember that all these networks are like oshan, they haven't left the russian... market there, bondul, they

are trying to save the unfortunate russian grandmother from starvation with their green peas, that is, but on the other hand, as you know, they can collide and for confiscation of property, as it is happened with can, can, can, and they know it, so of course they can, so there is just such, it seems to me, an obvious problem, here, too, the question is how much, how much is the balance between trying to keep. in an attempt, so to speak, to respond to this confiscation of property, of course, and the confiscation of russian property is also starting to take place here, all the villas, there are yachts that belong to putin's relatives or his relatives, they are gradually somehow more and more beginning to fall into the dawn of law enforcement officers who somehow arrest them there they promise to transfer it to ukraine, i hope they will do so, well... well, that is, there is

a process in the other direction in the opposite direction as well. thank you, mrs. alla alla lazzareva, the journalist was in touch with us. now we will talk about china with ihor lytvyn, ambassador of ukraine to the people's republic of china in 1999-2001 and co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council. congratulations, mr. igor. congratulations. well, the ambassador of china, in china of ukraine, in china pavlo ryabikin presented the credentials to the head. of the people's republic of china xizen pinu, took place there meeting with the deputy minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china, however , it must be said that on the same day when this meeting took place, another deputy minister of foreign affairs of russia of the people 's republic of china was talking to his russian counterpart in moscow about strategic partnership, it seems to me that this is not an accidental coincidence , mr. igor. in general , coincidences in china, well, it is better not to expect, of course, that... simultaneous negotiations here and

there, it can be something that falls under. sequence of meetings, and the point is that on the 31st, when our ambassador presented his credentials to the president of the prc, xi jinping, after he arrived in early june, having been appointed, it seems, in april, yes, and when the president and the president of the prc, he is the recipient of the credentials. from 42 people, yes, of course, that this meeting with the deputy minister of foreign affairs should have been and was before that, it seems that it was even earlier, because in diplomatic practice, when an ambassador comes to a new

country, the new ambassador of the sending country, comes to the country, means its own stay, in order for him to get to work sooner, he must hand over a copy of the letter of intent. the relevant person from the ministry of foreign affairs, as a rule, it is either a minister or a deputy minister, regarding the meeting with the deputy minister of china, with the deputy minister of foreign affairs in moscow, well, you know, after putin and xi jinping met in moscow, and then in beijing, of course, a program was developed to maintain and develop contacts at various levels, we can also mention the trip of the former minister defense of the people's republic of china to moscow, a video, a conversation

between the current defense minister of china and the newly appointed defense minister of the russian federation, which also took place on january 31, well, i'm telling you. it is not a coincidence, it is work according to the program. to what extent, in principle , can one now assess beijing's interest in relations with ukraine, what can the people's republic of china want from us? if we ask the question of what connects russia with china - this is one line, what can we expect from this cooperation, then we must, we must clearly, that is, realize that the strategic china has a partnership with the russian federation and ukraine. as for russia -china, as xi jinping said during the meeting in spokane with the prime minister of russia,

mishustin, to support, i quote, and to develop sino-russian relations well is a strategic choice made by both sides on the basis of fundamentals. interests of the two peoples, our strategic partnership with china has a history dating back to the summer of 2011, when it was the last visit of the president of the people's republic of china to ukraine, and when the declaration on its strategic relations was signed partnership, followed by the visit of the president of ukraine. and there the relevant document was signed regarding the development of these relations, until in the 13th year the president of ukraine went again, then yanukovych was in beijing and signed, as we call it in diplomacy, a big agreement, this is an agreement on friendship

and cooperation, which concerns these relations , which have now developed between russia and china, in principle there is nothing for ukraine, in my opinion. to be very worried, because despite all the current information flows, china is not a threat to us, and china is most likely will strictly adhere to what is written in the western sanctions, because the double sanctions of china are not necessary, and how do you view china's relations with pyongyang now in this situation? and of course that china has a very strong influence on the politics of pyongyang, but this is not the case when they turn to beijing for every step, the future, the uspanyanu, of course, that

there is cooperation between china, russia , russia, the dprk and the dprk with china, and this trick. should be considered as one that can have sufficiently strategic decisions, means the steps, well, we mean that... last year in the far east, kim jong-un, the head of the prc, and uh, this puilo, as we call him, met last year in the far east, in order to discuss the issues of possible supplies of various weapons, including missiles and artillery shells to russia, which was done, as the press wrote, it means that as many as a million such shells were delivered, so

we can expect china to somehow influence the position of the korean people's democratic republic, but in the case when we clearly and daily work with china, and then china can listen to us, because sitting and doing nothing is a global principle. it makes sense not to visit china at the level of the presidents of ukraine for years, not to communicate for years, what can we expect from china, what kind of charms, i don't understand, well, you see that the president of ukraine really wants some kind of relations with china right now, right? yes? i admit that he wants such relationships, but in order to want, one must clearly understand that one desire is not enough. of course, it is necessary to take concrete steps, which are in diplomacy

are considered as a manifestation of respect and interest in something. the point is that , as i have already said, president yushchenko did not go to china for five years, although he was invited to the opening of the olympics in 2008. for 5 years, president poroshenko traveled to china, met for half an hour, three times, that is, twice with sidzimpin davos plus the washington security forum and with... the vice president in the same capacity in the 19th year, president zelenskyi did not travel for four years, there was one conversation, after which ambassador rebikin was appointed to beijing, and we expect what we have desire and it exactly, it means that it is being implemented, no, this cannot be done, it is necessary to work hard from all sides, especially since china was our largest trading partner until 22... the second year with a trade volume

of almost 17 billion dollars for china, this is a drop in the ocean , because at that time china's foreign trade turnover amounted to 4.6 trillion dollars, even russia, which is now, means during this bloody war against our country. it increased the trade balance with china by several tens of percent and now at the end of the 23rd year it was more than 240 billion dollars, although it is not a drop either, still a little more, yes, but not as compared to, say, the trade turnover between china and the united states of america 755 billion and the european union 800. then 35 billion. of course, that the desire, if it is there, it

means that it is transformed into concrete tasks for those who are responsible for our foreign policy, who makes it, this is the ministry of foreign affairs, this is our embassy in beijing, if there is a desire, there were orders, and it's done, how it's done, i don't know because you see, just now our ambassador rybikin met, on the first of january, so maybe the issues of a possible meeting were discussed with the head of the prc, but at least a phone call, but at least, let's say, maybe there was an agreement or there will be an agreement about the visit of our minister first of foreign affairs butin, or something else, it is necessary to do more and there will be a greater result. in principle, you are talking about economic relations, i think it is very important, but... there are political reasons, we understand that, one way or another china is in difficult relations with the west,

in good relations with russia, and this cannot be overlooked, mr. igor, i completely agree with you, although optimism is added by the fact that there was a november meeting in san francisco between joe biden and sidzimpin, recently there were talks called and this... the chief in charge of foreign policy in china, and jack sullivan, this, the famous person in charge of national security in the united states of america. they talked for 12 hours, there were issues of bilateral relations in the field of view, in particular, that means trade and economic, military cooperation , which was terminated under the then , that is, the former minister of defense, who fell under sanctions, american, and in addition there were international issues, including,

that is, the war in ukraine, which is being waged by russia, although the chinese... call it the ukrainian crisis or the ukrainian conflict, i would look at the chinese if we started talking about it now, remembering the history, when in 1939 in nanjing there was a uh terrible tragedy for the chinese people, 300,000 were destroyed people, and she went down in history as the nanking massacre, if we now remember it as the nanking crisis or the nanking conflict. something like that, let's stay , that's about, ah, expectations of easing or softening of relations between the united states and the people's republic of china, and is being prepared and will be in the next few days, as stated, so a new telephone connection between joe biden and

sidzimpin, what will be considered there, what will be the orders given to both of the... old-looking people who are responsible for the implementation of foreign policy and security, we let's see, too, but the fact that it is happening, and the fact that china does not want to be included, that is, to be included in these sanctions lists, it means that there is hope, but from... on the other hand, maybe the chinese are really trying to catch up with trump now, and now many are trying to somehow improve their political plans, bearing in mind that trump can become president? i am not going to predict now who will become the president of the united states, how it is viewed in beijing, they can only say that china always sticks to its own

interests, and they are written two generations in advance, as was always the case in tradition. means conducting policy in china, and i do not think that trump somehow, if he is the next president of the united states of america, can somehow mean to change bilateral relations, if beijing wants to continue to improve relations with china in any field, because china is absolutely confident that it... the second e means the center is a bipolar world, as i see it, at least it is the united states and the people's republic of china, the chinese the people's republic is now doing everything to win over a lot of countries to its side, including this global south and

so on, and we can see from their steps that they want to be everywhere where they can present themselves and... state that influences to solve global issues, and therefore, thank you, mr. igor, igor lytvyn, co-chairman of the ukrainian -chinese business council, the former ambassador of ukraine to the chinese people's party was in touch with us, now we will literally take a break for a couple of minutes, but you stay with us , please, there are discounts on afida max 10% plantain in pharmacies. and saving tingling, numbness or crawling of ants in the limbs arise spontaneously and disturb you. a special complex of active substances of dolgita antineuralgia helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps to return to usual activities without subduing ionism in the limbs. capsules dolgit antineuralgia - help to your nervous system. there are discounts on peechlan ivy.

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military personnel, retaliatory strikes by the united states on the territories of iraq and syria, where iraq is located, iranian military facilities, what all this can lead to, how it will all develop, well, you know, when the americans took a break. the question arose, actually, what will happen next, yes, and it is obvious that the decision that was taken, it was based on considerations of not, controlled escalation, that is, to prevent a direct confrontation with iran, at the same time, since iran claims that all these structures, there are no kitayedbala and other groups starting there directly tied. the leadership of the islamic revolution guards corps acts independently, then, accordingly, in the end a decision was made, which can be said to be quite

reasonable, that is, on the one hand , the positions of these groups are struck, and everyone perfectly understands that these are the positions of the islamic revolution guards corps, with on the other hand , officially american. they do not attack iranian facilities, well, what can be said about the possible course of the situation in the future? well, i think that, in principle, the americans will attack a few more, at least strikes, several waves of strikes, then they will look at the intensity of the response, and it is obvious. with the iranians, direct or indirect , mediated through qatar or through other structures , will continue and this will be a key question in

the future, what to do with iran itself, whether iran is ready to limit its activities only to the borders of its country and curtail expansionist forces outside iran. tell me. mr. igor, in principle, what is happening now in the middle east, do you believe in the possibility of new, peaceful agreements between israel and hamas, some kind of ceasefire? well, judging by the information coming in, hamas is not very interested in a temporary truce, hamas wants a final truce with the withdrawal of israeli troops, the gaza strip, and, well, of course, kona remains. of israeli hostages, prisoners who are being held by hamas in the gaza strip. binyamin netanyahu has already given up on a

plan to release palestinian prisoners, and in particular, i understand that among those prisoners could be marwan barghouti, one of the key actors now palestinian. opera and palestinian politics in general, a person who really claims the position of president of the palestinian authority, that is, as of now, i would probably give less chance that this round of negotiations will be concluded, and what will it look like then, that is, the war will simply continue, as it continues, well, the key issue there is the issue of rafah, as far as i understand, and khan yunus, in principle, in a big way. account is still resisting, rafah, the problem with rafah is that there are somewhere around 1.5 million civilians, who moved there, as if to a security zone, and

the conduct of hostilities in this city, well, it will cause great, great victims, yes, that is, how ready will the israelis be for such a defection, well, they will at least threaten yamin netanyahu. to start an operation in rophasia, but well, i think that the pressure of the americans on israel will only increase, well, you yourself understand that no vote will be effective, that is, obviously the house of representatives, they can vote on this separate bill, but neither congress nor president it will not be signed, that is, it is such a political, political pr part. republicans, and since the israelis don't get the money they expect, they really won't have money for the war, let alone for the escalation, and tell me... what kind of scandal is this

with the un agency to help palestinian refugees ? well, as far as i understand, a certain part of the workers of this agency was connected with hamat. that is, in what and what format of these connections, this should already give an answer to the investigation, including the internal the investigation itself. agency or in the united nations, and obviously there is a redistributive effect here, that is , if you work in an area that is controlled by, say, some political group, in order for you to continue to work in that area, then obviously part of these resources one way or another falls into the hands of this political force, and

in itself it is, of course... a scandal, and well, we see the results of this scandal, when some countries refuse or temporarily suspend the funding of the agency, but i think that in in principle, they will find the money, and it is also clear that this pause cannot be prolonged, most likely after a certain time most of the countries will return to financing the agency, but there is such a problem, then, how will the financing of the palestinians take place in a situation where you and i are well aware of how difficult the attitude towards this agency will be on the part of western countries, have they already practically stopped participating in this financing? they suspended participation in funding, i think after some time they will resume participation funding, because the question of palestinian refugees and the question of palestine in general in...

it is not clear-cut in the western world, that is, there is no such obvious support for israel as israel is trying to sell, so i think that after an investigation, after a clear investigation , such funding will resume. if we talk in general about what is happening now with yemen, with the strikes of the united states of great britain on the positions of the yemeni ossetians, what have we reached now, in principle, at what stage are we at, is it possible at all achieve undermining their positions? well, only by a ground operation, obviously, but a ground operation is not yet part of the coalition's plans, which means that they will continue to bomb in the hope that eventually the results of such strikes will lead to a significant

reduction in their ability to... strikes, i i think that this, well, at least for the next few months, is an illusion, we will see further, well, in principle, there have already been attempts at a ground operation in saudi arabia, in the united arab emirates, and what did it all lead to, yes, it is obvious that the war in the highlands by belligerent tribes, it is not an easy walk, yes afga. americans already know the history of afghanistan, and this is also such a deterrent, well, actually very difficult logistics, as far as i understand, in order to conduct a ground operation, well, actually the experience of saudi arabia and the united arab emirates, they say that this not an option that can be implemented quickly, unlike the taliban in the second year of 2003, when

they quickly left the cities and hid in the mountains, the houthis will not do this and they will resist rather than. in principle, it was said earlier that a break in trade on the red sea could lead to serious losses in the world economy. we remember how we monitored the situation in the gulf of soet, when there... the ship blocked the possibility of the advancement of other judges, and this is a ship, and it was such a disaster, disasters, now the red sea is not working, and no one is speaking, that we are in a catastrophic situation, that's why it is so, or just no, no, they say ready, vitaliy, because in fact, if we are talking about that ship, well, it's clear, it there was such an accident, yes, but...