toblisko is politics, it is close to politics , close to the world, i am maria gurska, editor-in-chief of the sister portal, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel, next to me is pavel koval, professor of history, chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the polish sejm. and as always, we talk about the most important things that happened this week in poland and ukraine. this means that now there is money for the functioning of the ukrainian state in conditions of war. ukraine cannot function normally now. obviously. that the country is unable

to collect taxes normally, it means that external financing should come , money that will become, technocratically speaking, macroeconomic aid, most of this money will be allocated simply for the day-to-day functioning of the state, plus all the elements that will be connected with the start of negotiations on membership in the european union, this is important, but it only half the success, the other half will be decided in the united states, because there we await the decision on the aid package, which should determine whether there will be funds for the ammunition and weapons of this year it is no secret that most of the costs of ammunition are covered by the usa, or, let's say, their purchase is covered by the funds allocated by the usa. in ukraine, they say that this decision of the european union can be stimulating for the usa, as an example of leadership. i hope that it will happen, although i said recently that it is easy, that we... in this group

of republicans, i think that there are grounds for concern, which means that we need to mobilize. it is not enough for the european union to simply announce the decision to allocate funds. now something needs to be done more. i think that an offensive of european politicians is needed, for conversations with senators, with members of the house of representatives, so that the congress feels on...

before the decision of the summit of eu leaders to provide aid to ukraine, how did it manage to overcome the lead of hungarian prime minister orbán? there is no secret in this. orbán negotiated some small things there, but at some point he also realized that in the end there are two ways of negotiations in the main body of the european union: it is possible to provide. anyone has any additional advantages to be in quotes to bribe him, but still the point is not to bribe him. at some point, he realized that he was alone, and that in any other case he would have significant problems, and he also needed solutions in favor of hungary, many other issues from the members of the european union. the catchphrase of donald tusk, which will surely go down in history, was that there is no problem with phtoma from ukraine, but he has a problem with fatigue from orban, which means.

no more anfatik, it's not a problem, but orban-fatik is a problem, i think orban realized that he was just tormenting everyone, and that they were fed up with the fact that the leader of one of the central european countries of the eu, in fact , put himself in the role of a permanent agent of putin's interests. the possible dismissal of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, general valery zaluzhnyi, what might be the reaction of european leaders and how it might affect the provision of finance. it is also clear that zaluzhny is a point of reference for partners in military matters, but the third point, i would say this, well, this is a ukrainian decision, i do not think that anyone will depend on aid or the lack of help from these personnel changes is a purely ukrainian decision, and i think it will remain so, and must remain so, otherwise it would not look like that. ok, so this is the decision

of the relevant ukrainian authorities. and the fourth point is the issue of mobilization, because the real problem today is not in the labor force. if there is no good man, then probably his, i hope. that his experience will still be used in some other place, while if we are looking for good scenarios for ukraine, the question is whether the ukrainians will be able to will the ukrainian authorities be able to carry out an effective mobilization, and there is a lot of talk about this in the west now, i hear this not only in poland, experts pay considerable attention to this issue. let's talk about this in more detail: ukraine is currently discussing a law on mobilization, which may also provide... assistance from eu countries, which could various mechanisms are being considered, including joining, to activate the return of ukrainian men home. what is

poland's position here? this is the government. of course, but how can such mechanisms look like encouraging ukrainians of mobilization age to return home from the eu. if there is such a request from ukraine, the ukrainian government to you, activate these people? to be honest, it's hard to say what it could look like without violating any basic human rights, because we know that no one will, i don't know, look for reservists and send them to ukraine, it's not about that, maybe we can apply some delicate administrative decisions, but only legal ones. i'm just afraid it won't look like... it will the problem of the eu countries, because it is not possible to act so simply. there are things that we have to promote, which are important from the point of view of the future of ukraine, important for the eu, which are in the hands of the european union or the usa. we clearly know that this is a question of providing resources, production,

ammunition, these are questions that can be in our hands. the question of mobilization is primarily a question of relations between the ukrainian state and ukrainian citizens. and some forms of support from western countries need to be introduced very delicately and very consciously, so as not to overdo it. but, for example, we talked about work permits in one of our previous dialogues, for example, women's entrepreneurship of ukrainian women who arrived after the start of the war is stimulated by eu countries, especially poland. and what should the situation with men look like? but what should it look like? if we were to put something in direct dependence on certain ukrainian documents, it would probably be in the economy. there would be a gray area and so on, so it would have to be thought through very well, i can prepare before that, i propose to return to this topic in the future, and we will consider together what administrative solutions would be good here, but, as i already told you, this is a very delicate issue between the governments of ukraine and citizens

of ukraine, and the state where ukrainian citizens are legally, even in the conditions of war, there is not much that can be done, although it can certainly do something, well, so can we. are such negotiations taking place right now? i guess that's all i can say about this for now? thank you, well, let's go further, but i'm also interested in your opinion on the topic of the return of all ukrainians, because some politicians in europe are now saying that ukrainians should go home, not only soldiers, but also women and children who took refuge in eu countries from missiles and bombs. thoughts on this matter. this is what we heard from the prime minister of slovakia fico. yes, but fico still represents an extremely populist approach. the truth is that many people, especially women, many citizens of ukraine, have already acclimatized to the west so much that these german politicians, i don't know if they are italian, they were

are glad not to say goodbye to them, because they are important for the labor market and the economy of these countries. no, well, let's be honest, especially in these conversations. we must be open, many, many ukrainian men and women in the west are an important element of the functioning of the labor markets, they have already grown into these societies and no one wants to specifically expel them, on the contrary, people, especially businessmen, want them to stay, so it is not so easy , and this matter has another aspect, someone in kyiv may not like it, because someone in kyiv will say: well well, the war is going on, and our citizens and children, well, how come, that is, children are especially important here, because in many countries... of course, ukraine may not like this. i think there are voices that will say, well, why are they still in the west. so of course there are problems here. this question can be covered in different ways, from both sides.

fortunately, people decide their own fate and the state does not tell them what to do . people themselves make the final decisions. and i think that's the most wonderful thing about it all . help and opportunities, and poland everything has not yet accepted the extension of the aid program for refugees from ukraine for this year. on march 4 , the protection program ends, according to a special resolution. why is the polish government silent, what to expect? it is planned to extend for six months. in general, it should be renewed approximately once a year, every six months, depending on the development of the situation. so for now , everything is provided according to the same rules that were in force before. maybe later. something will change, but i think that, in principle, some kind of support package for ukrainians, ukrainian women and

children and, to a lesser extent, men who are on the territory of poland, have come to us, will be preserved, but for now everything will be as it was six months ago. let's talk about the visit of polish parliamentarians to germany this week. how did everything go, especially if we talk about the meeting with the minister of defense of germany, boris pistorius. what are the results? first of all , in everything related to the security of poland and? in fact, there were many conversations, extremely important ones were, for example, in our official program, i would like to mention the head of the office pletne, with the chairman of the bundestag committees, with the bundestag deputies who deal with issues of cooperation with poland, as well as well-known issues of central europe, we met with the minister of culture, with the minister of european affairs, and finally with... minister pistorius. the last one interests you the most, and i know why, because boris

pistorius is one of those german politicians who share our views on security and strategy. if someone, for example, did not know that he was a politician, a member of the german government. he might think he is could be, for example, a pole or an american, because pistorius actually sees the issue of security very clearly. and it was the minister of defense of germany who became famous a few days ago with his statement that poland could be russia's next victim. we read about it in the bild article. yes, and it was practiced in different ways. i believe, for example, that people should not be scared, they should be mobilized. if we want to mobilize, we should also demonstrate, well, i don't want to be catastrophic, because that's not the point. but i also often say in interview that if we let russia rest on the borders, more precisely, on the front line, we will have russia a few hundred kilometers further. to the west. we will talk about this later, but for now, what news about taurus for ukraine and the

issue of weapons production in europe, especially in poland. it is about the joint production of weapons by poland and ukraine. will there be support from germany? there are several elements. first, there is something that has the working name of the pro-ammunition coalition, or the ammunition coalition. the project was initiated by the countries of the european union. tier breton. commissioner of france is responsible for this and has proposed a project that will allow production to reach a million shells per month. it was partially successful, but it worked. i, for example, have a very positive attitude to this, because i see that european countries are beginning to mobilize. it is much easier to mobilize politicians if you say it, do it. this is a simple task. we need to make munitions because we need to get the industry going because the russians, it's not just about supplying weapons. we have heard such things in the world media

fears, for example, in december, the wall street journal printed a thorough article about, say, the german army's stockpiles of weapons in the event of a war would last for two days. different people talk about different things. to be honest, sometimes i read the calculations of experts, i treat them with respect, but i want to go out myself and count how much there is, because everyone's data is a little different, but it seems to be true. there are not many weapons, what has happened recently: the russian economy is switching to military lines as much as possible, and the eu economy is not too much, this means that there are countries that need to be mobilized for the production of ammunition, this is one topic, the second topic is cooperation in this area between poland and ukraine, because if there are new investments in the production line of ammunition, then it is best to locate them in poland , theoretically they could still be located in romania, but preferably in poland, so that production takes place close to...

he will soon be able to get a simply stunning military advantage. russian propaganda spreads videos of children in former factories, which are collecting drones, and to be honest, it looks shocking. yes, it looks shocking, but fortunately, i really enjoy watching as a political scientist, probably more than as a politician , the process of forming a policy decision. at the beginning, someone presents a topic, at first no one is particularly interested in it, and then politicians at the next levels learn about this topic, begin to understand what it is about and discuss it with experts and the military. as

for ammunition, we are already at this stage, so i am optimistic here, because i see that they are meeting one with two, with three. by german , american, french politicians , they say, we know, they have heard of ammunition, and this is a very good method of political pressure, you know, in the democratic style of political lobbying, today everyone knows ammunition, we must produce it, and there is already this element of focusing efforts, because now many are criticizing that the eu was not able to produce a million, but only 500 thousand shells, yes, but the system was able to load, that does not solve the problem, because let's be clear, if... we are thinking about a war scenario where we are talking about ukraine, then the provision of these munitions, as part of this whole big package, for american or european money, is still impossible to achieve, because there is no american solution, there is only a european one, this is still a static scenario, this is a scenario of a clear break in this year, to make a clear breakthrough this year, we also need

to add effective mobilization, what we talked about, these taurus, or some kind of weapon that can hit... targets in russia, and now i think that after my visit to germany, i made sure that the same one will work here mechanism, as always, that is, there must be this signal from the united states, we are ready to go one step further, and the germans will follow them, we just need to lobby, and not throw up our hands, saying that nothing will work. during your meetings in germany, there were also european integration talks devoted to eu enlargement. what would be said about ukraine? my point about this is that someone will say that they would like to... is to quickly start negotiations on the accession of ukraine to the eu. if someone says there are problems at the border, i say the solution is to negotiate accession of ukraine in the eu, which must be done well. therefore, our polish position is clear.

talks about the deal as soon as possible, they are useful for the security of the region, for the situation in ukraine. also for the polish economy, but of course there will be various problems, i don't know, difficulties, for example, with individual products, and this is the most difficult, because there is a certain peculiarity in the political character of our part of europe, in the sense that i see that as soon as some the problem is that everyone in ukraine says that they don't want to accept us, and everything will be terrible, but yes you can't negotiate at all, i tell everyone this honestly, and we also had to learn this once, that there is a negotiation process and in certain... cases, some country can make proposals, well, that ukraine doesn't like. for this, you need to have a team, effective negotiators, add these issues to the discussion, treat them like business negotiations, because this is what the eu accession negotiations will look like, so we need to hold the front together and act quickly. well, to start these negotiations, to convince

our western partners that this is great for of ukraine and for themselves as well, because they will have a wider market. it is also necessary to use economic arguments, and instead of being indignant and declaring the end of the world, it is better to just sit down at the table, talk, discuss and think how to solve it, because the road to the eu will look like this. a few days ago, i met with a well-known polish economist, business woman and the minister of industry and trade of poland in the 90s, henryka bochnias, who spoke about the fact that the process of ukraine's accession has reached a painful point and that we should look for a solution together when should such groups start working? together we can do it, now some completely inappropriate drama is forming around this issue. you know, the european union has already

expanded so many times, including large countries, it will be normal negotiations, if someone has ever agreed, well, for example, a department. negotiations, political, international, or even agreed on kishinev money with a child, then he knows that in negotiations one says: i want more, the other says: i can give you so much, this is a normal negotiation process, but very difficult in many areas, because you have to be ready for ups and downs, keep your nerves in check, but do it quickly, because it is necessary. in general, i believe that without this it will be difficult to achieve normal relations between ukraine and the west, because ukraine after the war, even in the good scenario that we are betting on today, will be in a difficult situation. aid among countries that have never joined the european union, because they have always been in it. therefore , poland has a specific advantage here, as a significant assistant in the negotiation process.

it is difficult to find another country, a big country. in our part of europe, there is only one big country that joined the eu, it is poland, maybe romania. together we will be able to do it, and we must be ready for the fact that we will have to give up, give something, somewhere on the contrary there will be a profit, and i am saying this. there will be profit, although there will be problems in some areas, if there are problems, well , let's try, i don't know, somehow agree on transitional periods, that's how it happens in such situations, there will be different solutions, and they must be, because there have always been, then or not it is time to gather experts from the two countries, it is worth starting to do it now, to make the first decisions. well, for now, the position of the entire european union on the issue of negotiations will begin to be formed on the basis of an informal survey, which will be conducted by the commission, starting with individual

member states, what is their opinion and what do they see for themselves, right? this is a good time to start working. very interesting, and next week we'll talk more about what 's happening in the us right now, the results of the primaries and what to expect from the fight in the united the nearest states of america? in the temporarily occupied crimea , air raid alarms are sounding more and more often. on the morning of january 30 , residents of the peninsula reported a series of powerful explosions. the ministry of war of the russian federation announced the alleged downing of 21 drones in

the territory of crimea and in four regions of russia. later, the armed forces of ukraine confirmed that they had successfully destroyed a radar station of the russian air defense system, near the village of rozdolne, in the temporarily occupied crimea. in st. petersburg, on the night of january 31 , a drone set fire to the nevsky mazut plant. russian propagandists later reported that the drone was allegedly shot down, but its fall caused damage to several tanks and cars. a fire also broke out on the territory of the plant. pulkovo airport even suspended the reception and departure of flights for an hour and a half. also on wednesday, crimeans heard explosions in sevastopol, near sakiiv. rozdolny, feodosia and gvardiysky. the ministry of defense of russia stated without evidence that they had destroyed 17 ukrainian missiles over the black sea and three more over the peninsula. by

according to the version of the aggressor country, rocket debris fell on the territory of the lyubimovtsi military unit, but later it became known that a fire broke out north of sevastopol near the belbek airfield. two missiles hit the command post of the 38th fighter aircraft. another attacked the airfield communication point, ukrainian air force spokesman yuriy ignat confirmed that russian servicemen were killed and wounded during the attack, at least three enemy planes were hit, according to the crimean wind channel telegram, during the strike on the belbek air base russian general tatarenko was eliminated. they will fly less, it is clear that they have appropriate base points. about which both they and we know, and the most important thing is that we know that these are our base points, so we clean up and prepare. on the night of february 1

, the explosions continued, later ukrainian intelligence confirmed that our defense forces destroyed the ivanovets missile boat of the russian black sea fleet. the enemy ship was patrolling the black sea near lake donuzlav, near the western coast of the occupied crimea. head kyrylo gur budanov. that the enemy ship was destroyed by six direct hits from magura sea drones. during the drone attack, a powerful explosion occurred, which may indicate the detonation of mosquito missiles that were on board the russian boat. up to 40 crew members could be on board. the ministry of war of the russian federation did not comment on the loss of the ship. the purpose of a boat of this type is to search for and destroy surface targets, and thanks to the equipment of missiles, the mosquito could destroy large warships. ships after russia left the grain agreement, she permanently kept two such ships in donuzlavia to block shipping to our main ports, through the north-western

part of chork. of the sea, that is, in fact, such boats, they jumped out of lake donuzlav, took up a position, a firing position near mysatorkhankud, and could destroy any surface vessel in this water area with their missiles, and by the way, when they planned this operation back in july of last year , they destroyed our corvette ternopil as a target, with just such a missile, that is, the ship really... it is supposedly small like that, but it capable and potentially very dangerous for us. on the night of saturday, february 3 , a powerful fire broke out at the luk oil-vologograd oil refinery in the krasnoarmy district of the city of volgograd. our drones also reached the belgorod and rostov regions. the russian authorities reported very discreetly about the attack on three regions of the russian federation. they allegedly shot down four ukrainian

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this is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel together beraber, in which we talk about the problems of the occupied crimea so far, my name is khrystyna yatskiv and i congratulate my co-host ayder muzhdebayev. well, we will definitely mention in this program about the successes of the defense forces on the territory of the crimea this week, we will remember what happened in bilbik and how our huriv people managed to sink a missile. but first of all, we must note that it is very important that our people and all of us together support the defense forces of ukraine by all means and donations, in particular, especially if we want to see the liberation of the occupied crimea in our lifetime. thank you, christ, for such words, they are important, indeed, we work not only to inform you quickly about events.