on very specific people who would dare to assume this responsibility, well, in any case, we understand that in addition to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, there is also a supreme commander, and this is where questions may arise, in particular from our partners , well, it is obvious that this event, well , first of all, when we appeal to our partners and say, good people, what are you doing there, how much can you agree on something there? avoid escalation, the war is already breaking at your door, and you are doing something stupid, that's the war we are already at home, and we do not deny ourselves the opportunity to engage in internal nonsense, as such, created in a fairly equal city, but again, if we analyze the western partners, then yes, zaluzhnyi has great authority there among the military leadership, but in the western in principle, it is a taboo for the military.

they understand these rules, the western military, we, no, no, not latin america, we have a junta, juntas are not practiced, our practice is excellent, and therefore the western military will work with whoever comes to the place meritorious, that is, even if they don’t like it, but what is happening, now is such a key moment in the war with all these american dances, to whom we give arguments in favor of supporting, not supporting ukraine, for sure, as always, we create a problem not for our opponents , and we create a problem for our friends, this is also our infamous tradition, to make life difficult for our friends. in the discussions in the congress, all kinds of orbans with fizami in the european union, it takes a certain time to revive these relations, it takes a certain time to again worked effectively on a personal level, this cooperation between the new top team. chem and his colleagues among

the nato countries, we need time, which we do not have , and this is happening at an almost critical moment, when a decision is made tomorrow on the financing of ukraine by the european union, i think that it will inevitably be positive, i have become more careful with forecasts of american aid, because there they have already started to speak openly, no longer disguising themselves, they have begun to speak openly that we cannot sign this agreement, because it is a gift. to biden, that is it is better to wait until trump becomes president , he will come and solve everything, they have not even begun to hide it, they do not know how it will end, but even a week ago there were more optimistic scenarios, there were signals that an agreement was about to be reached, and there was such an impression , that american politicians are really competing for the one who will better prepare for the challenges of illegal migration there, and it turns out that it is not about migration at all, it is about what cannot be given to a political opponent. such a trump card, if we are such

a trump card for him, then why should we go to the elections? here approximately the logic of the american political elites of the republicans, not only that, but i was absolutely killed by the decision of the regional committee of the oklahoma republican party, which threatened its senator for publicly supporting the need for a treaty and the introduction of an aid package to ukraine and others, as treason against candidate. trump and threatened him to stop funding, well, that 's already called for me, get out the final stop, the beautiful people's governor of the state of texas and, accordingly, 25 other governors, who supported him in his unstoppable desire to use the american constitution for its intended purpose, whose border is the power, whose power is the border, and we also understand that the situation in the states is much less stable than we would like...

it seemed, let's project to what, to the fact that trump , in fact, having lost the elections in the 20th year, still did not recognize the results, now he actually threatened that if his victory is not recognized, then these 25 states, these national, that is, he actually threatened well actually splitting the country, it is not a civil war, as rusnyak tries to say there, but... undermining the foundations of democracy and not being punished for the fact that he actually supported the coup d'état, the state council on january 6, now trump is already openly calling on his supporters to with a weapon in hand , to defend his truth, and his truth is this, you all know that the victory was stolen from me, and further on in the text, that is why the situation now appears when we go to the elections and regardless of what will happen in the elections. .

you can confidently predict what will happen next with american democracy, and american democracy did not have such risks, well, probably since the founding of its state, and abraham rincoln did not have such a one, such a very serious split, and here, in the current situation of american turbulence, we have unstoppable emotional initiatives , well , i’m still bigger, maybe an optimist, i want to believe that maybe somehow it won’t go according to the scenario described by mykola vasylyovych gogol, an outstanding ukrainian writer, in his outstanding work, as ivan ivanovich and ivan quarreled among themselves. so remember, and no matter what was done, the rift deepened, but this can have consequences in the mood, which is called that the military command, generals, generals are people who perceive the situation through the prism

of war, through the prism of death, through the prism security and trust, well, it must be said that this factor is also openly analyzed in the western media in the fact that among the ukrainian military, the authority of the volunteer is very high, for various things, again, i do not know him i know, you do not know him, he is not public , but obviously you and i are not in the armed forces, we do not feel this style on our own skin, but they do, and they say in particular that there are attempts to put the commander of the ground forces there, it is absolutely an unacceptable situation, although it is a favorite, in particular, of the president's office. and the same fair, and this is a serious question, because i do not think, again, we are not latin america, our military, they are as patriotic as possible, they will fulfill their obligations, but the peculiarity of the model of the current government, this

of the team that came to the bank, that it is almost nothing, not almost, but it measures the public mood every day, and of course... they have a certain program there, where it will roughly unfold according to such a scenario that after the dismissal of the employee there is a whole information campaign, a storm, i don't know, an information typhoon, which will try to transfer to the team, not only to zaluzhno, to his team, because there his deputies always go after the dismissal of the chief, and there will be this attempt to transfer from... responsibility, and ready for this attempt society, and the authorities are preparing for this attempt, but the moment of trust is definitely not on the side of the authorities, further, sooner or later we will have elections, i again, i affirm that our military, they will be faithful to the oath, they

will not undermine the country's defense capabilities , they will defend their freedom, protect their families, their lands, but the moment will come, the moment of elections and... here in ukraine, since this french colleague of yours tried to ask me if i am not afraid of authoritarianism, the return of authoritarianism in ukraine , and i will honestly tell you that i am in it the times of yanukovych, especially, personally i was not afraid, i saw that many ukrainians saw, not that we underestimated, we understood the threats, but for us it was not a question of retreating, because authoritarianism threatens, responsibility in every democracy, you have go to the elections and you have to... get a vote of confidence from the voters, here i have serious problems, serious questions, i don't know how it will end from the point of view of military tactics, well, hypothetically, well, maybe, maybe there will be something better, because you and i understand that there are problems in the ministry as well defense is enough, and the military will tell you how

many things are being done wrong there, but we are talking about the fact that responsibility will not succeed, it will not be possible to transfer it to any of the faraways there or the ermaks will not succeed. to shift the responsibility from the side, from the shoulders of politicians to the shoulders of the military, this will definitely not be accepted by society, because everyone understands that the military, in order to fulfill the tasks set before them, they must have these resources, if you give them the task of knocking out the enemy from the territory of the country, and not to provide them with resources, then somewhere there it was in one of the publications that zaluzhny directly told the minister of defense, well, what is your task... the task of providing is your political task, my task is to fight with the resources that i have at my disposal, and the military understands this perfectly, and here there is no other way to interpret, the general staff cannot, cannot militarily take on the problems

of providing resources, mobilization, military, political, everything can be done when you work as a team, and i repeat, since there is no such team anymore, then i am. .. simply does not imagine the possibility of theoretical cooperation between the commander-in-chief and the commander-in-chief, when such a conversation has already taken place between them. istanbul, what could be happening now in... istanbul, because putin is going to erdogan in the coming weeks, right? well, we understand that they will talk not only about the affairs of the caucasus and not only about the affairs of the middle east. we understand that putin will try to use erdogan for his own purposes, right? and accordingly , erdogan will try to do something symmetrical with putin, well, of course, they will talk about the black sea transit. well, what can i say, yes. erdoğan, he secured probably his last presidency, i don't think even he

thinks he can go for that term again, it was the hardest race for him and he is politically calm, so he can take risks, further, i don't know what putin can offer him, but i know what , for example, america offers him, america offers him to sign contracts for the supply of f-35s, which the americans have now sold there. is the sworn partners of turkey to the greeks, partners by nato, and in exchange, the americans expect that these s-400s that erdogan bought, i think there are eight or so divisions that he bought from russia, and which turned out to be far from a miracle weapon, that these installations can get into some third country, and then get to ukraine. this is what i see, i see what it offers. america and what should be weighed by erdogan, and i do not understand what such a putin would offer him,

where he would have advantages, because i know the mentality of turkey well, at one time i headed the turkish-ukrainian government there, intergovernmental commission, and the turks are very pragmatic people, for them integration is the expansion of trade, they think in categories, promoting their own business, their own interests, expanding their own markets, and here kill me, i do not understand ... what can putin offer such , that is why a serious struggle has begun here, and we can already see what is being proposed, we can see that on the eve of putin's visit to ankara, there is frank information about the possibility for erdogan to realize his dream , to purchase non-modern aircraft, to sign profitable contracts and to get closer, if not politically, then trade with the european union , and to improve our relations with nato, this is what i see from... from this side, putin, he is from the north, not about peacekeeping, it is not about peacekeeping

, i can hardly imagine any initiatives of erdogan , why erdogan, what, well, what can erdogan add to what was? at one time, he convinced that this border, this transit through the black sea, he acted as a broker, and he believed that it was necessary to invite russia, russia was invited, but in the wrong direction and sent at all. in the other direction the corridor works, the whole world recognized that the corridor works, ukraine proved it, and erdoğan did not interfere with it, strictly speaking, a certain soft coalition was created, and erdoğan was also in this coalition, that is, this card was removed, ukraine actually unblocked , and the chances that putin will actually be able to do something with his, well, if not completely, then half-destroyed fleet. to threaten, to attack some international tankers, these chances are now simply

reduced many times, so it is no longer a game for erdogan, i do not understand what erdogan can do here to bring something additional, the position of ukraine is quite clear, we also understand that we can have negotiations, but after certain efforts, so there may be something here, well, something will have to be said at the press conference, but i am up to the fact that some such , as if ... erdogan doesn't have those trump cards either now, he can speak like this with fairly predictable general appeals to the fact that an understanding must be reached, but on the other hand , i don't think he can be there like orban or fizo repeat the mantra about what is needed to give the occupied territories to the russians is not in erdogan's interests at all, let 's play cards again, yes, mr. oleg, well , the key story... erdogan is only a certain segment of an extremely complex game, right? well

, i would like to believe that now in the current situation we can count on additional support. well, the french were amused, in particular , it is about missile systems. the british are holding steady, just like in the united states, not to know that with the poles, we seemed to measure back and the situation stabilized with the help of donald tusk. the germans pay and support and do it stably. thank god that's what trump cards we have, because the situation is not easy, and we understand that our western partners would also like to receive clear signals from us. here's the problem, here's the problem, what to consider kazer cards, because this situation, again around time, i'm not saying that this is something fatal from the point of view of the interests of ukraine, but it definitely makes it much more difficult if we measure every step of the authorities whether it brings us closer to victory or makes it more difficult for us to win, it's the current situation that makes it difficult, and the only thing we can

hope for is that, what i personally... hope that this mantra, which the president repeats at every step, that we are reliable partners, we will definitely fulfill all the things we promised, despite all the difficulties, we will definitely carry out these reforms, this is what the european union, nato is saying, and at our meetings with representatives of nato and the european union, i am talking about what listen, well, now it has to be quite tough. to monitor, you cannot now pretend that you believe in some things that were announced, but were not done, the ukrainian government now has to feel from the society, and it feels it from the society, well, knyazev was given enough money to make him a poor man from his cell, and this for a second, well,

just some concentrated symbol of corruption in the newly created, reformed supreme court. judges, and such things as happen with princes, well, at every step, people are appointed outside the competition, that is, rushes an open challenge to what we promised to do, instead of making the reforms we promised, according to the recipes that everyone knows, we try to imitate them, we are told that this time the imitation will not pass, they somehow think that it is possible to simply transfer responsibility through pr technology, they think that... well, the world will simply swallow it, because there is no way out, and we must understand this, that this is our obligation, when we undertook obligations under the european integration, basic things, this is exactly this governance, this is exactly these independent courts, this it's balancing the branches of government, it's non-interference

by one branch of government, it's judicial reform, it's a bunch of things that aren't happening right now, but without... progress in that direction, after we get a political decision on funding there, it's does not mean that we will automatically receive funds. look again at orbán, the european union has accumulated experience, i think that orbán will be the first example of what is done to those leaders who have already promised, became members of the european union, became members of nato, but then brazenly ignore everyone these promises also violate the basic principles, then in ukraine these pro... this also does not go anywhere, and the people who are at the head of the ukrainian government, who need funds, who need help, cannot help but understand this, i don't know where the painful moment when zelenskyi will understand that it is impossible to drag the country on six crutches, if he believes that these are his six advisers, that this is what ukraine stands on, this is a colossal mistake, no one in the world

thinks so, if he still expect that these people will pull the country out. they are hers they are pulling it, but they are pulling it not at all where zelensky would have hoped, this formula is not working, and this is an internal issue of ukraine, and it is also an issue of the opposition, but the public is speaking about it more and more loudly, and they are speaking about it more and more loudly at those meetings, that the representatives of the ukrainian government have there with european politicians, with american politicians, and this is the question of the ability of the ukrainian government to actually fulfill its promises and the ability of the ukrainian government to become... a reliable partner of the european union and nato, because with such management formula, well, questions arise here. and what did victoria nulan, the united states deputy secretary of state for political affairs, bring to kyiv, right? well, the visit is important and for a reason, that is , what biden and blinkin could say, well, i think, she voiced. very precisely, i

explained this to your colleagues yesterday, because i have the experience of meeting viktoriyalan there, she is... what an iron lady of american diplomacy, and she is characterized by the fact that she does not choose words in particular, and that because your colleague is there asked that maybe blinken should have been there, that is just the fact that it is not blinken, but victoria noland , gives me a great reason, as well as you, to understand that she said approximately what we are talking about now with you, but she can in the same words, very specifically and very ... specifically to make it clear about the consequences of an unreliable partnership on the part of ukraine, this is the person who has the experience, strength and desire for this, she is exactly... that type of diplomat, and i think that her visit, which is practically not public there, is very this non-publicity speaks volumes, and the moment

chosen for this visit is very characteristic and very timely, so i am sure that zelensky heard things that, perhaps, for diplomatic reasons, blinken would not even begin to talk about. thank you very much, mr. oleg, for this extremely useful and interesting conversation, i want to remind our viewers that oleg hrybachuk, the former chief of the secretariat of viktor yushchenko, the president, and , of course, the former vice prime minister for european integration, and also co-founder of chesno movement. verdict with serhii rudenko, from now on in a new, two-hour format, even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests: foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world. front society, and also feedback, you can express your opinion on a bad day with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict

with serhii rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 at espresso. greetings, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda. we have already approached the snake itself. the following shots may shock you. live news from the scene. kamikaze drone attacks. political analytics, objectively and meaningful, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front, shot! svobodalai, frankly and irrefutably. you draw your own conclusions. and now vladyslav seleznyov, ex-spokesman, will work in the tv channel. general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine. glory to ukraine, mr. colonel, i congratulate you. congratulations and glory to you heroes. an extremely important, symbolic and symptomatic article published in cnn

by the head of the commissar, general zaluzhnyi. yes, well, we actually understand what it is about making certain conclusions, we understand that this was done informally. on the other hand, it is a view of the deployment of the strategic perspective of the war. we are talking, perhaps, about the second. war with the russian federation. the first and main signal is that the publication was placed in the columns of the american edition, so we need to understand which audience this publication is primarily aimed at. in my opinion, this is an absolutely adult, such a rational analysis of the gains achieved by the ukrainian army during these two years of the full-scale russian-ukrainian war, and the proposal of a kind of road map in which way to act. victory in the battlefield , because in reality ukraine now faces a lot of challenges, this is also a question of limited

resources, this is also the understanding that the enemy is not going to give in to his plans, and he still dreams of destroying ukraine as a state, and ukrainians as a constituent community of the peoples of the world, this is the understanding that the enemy has a lot of resources for the implementation of these missions, this is the understanding that... foreign political processes and domestic political processes are themselves influence the course of hostilities directly on the battle line. you mentioned resources, well, we understand that we are talking about manpower and the corresponding means: artillery, rockets, and so on. so, this time zaluzhny carefully outlined our needs with his head. on the other hand, we understand that in the pentagon and so, i think, i guess. what we need most. as for the awareness of our western partners, we have to understand that the public events we know as rammstein. by the way,

the 18th rammstein was recently held. a meeting of representatives of countries of the world that are donors and provide certain military and technical needs of the ukrainian defense forces. this public meeting is preceded by relevant work at the level of technical groups. usually this work is agreed on the general position of the final communiqué, which becomes public as a result of the direct holding of the same romshtein, but the needs of the ukrainian army are urgent, medium-term and long- term, they are obvious to all participants process, which we know under the name of romshtein, and therefore it is obvious that our western partners also understand what ukraine lacks. critical barques of artillery shells, long-range missiles, with which we will be able to aim not only at enemy military objects, on the temporarily occupied territories of our country, but also on the territory.

of the european part of the russian federation, because it is really important, and our leader valery zalozhny clearly hints at this, because it is absolutely obvious that we need to destroy the enemy's military infrastructure, the infrastructure of the defense-industrial complex of the russian federation, as well as objects of the critical energy infrastructure of the russian federation, which also work for certain gains and capabilities of the russian occupation army, that is, these theses that are public in us. publications in the format of the cnn publication, this is a clear signal to our western partners that there is no need to delay, that the ukrainian military leadership has an absolutely clear understanding of the situation, there is a clear road map of how to achieve our desired goal, and for that we need resources, of course, that to a certain extent we count on our own achievements and opportunities, of course, that we

evaluate absolutely rationally. industrial and technical capabilities of our western partners , general zaluzhno speaks about this absolutely frankly, but, even despite such a difficult situation regarding the military and technical support of the ukrainian army, including related to certain difficult, let's say, political processes that are taking place in the partner countries of ukraine, nevertheless, we have the opportunity, we have options for ukrainian involvement troops, taking into account the resources available to us here and now. i think that it is not for nothing that at one time the relevant deputy minister of defense of ukraine, general ivan gavrylyuk emphasized that we can partially compensate for the barracks of artillery ammunition due to the more active use of drones, in particular ppv drones. this is a completely rational approach. not only that, the de facto ukrainian resistance to enemy aggression, the further it goes, the more it acquires the signs of a fourth- generation war, that is, in fact, when instead of

personnel... instead of military personnel, missions and combat tasks are performed by equipment, unmanned platforms, high-precision weapons, in particular artillery, in particular missile systems, as well as electronic warfare systems, so we must continue to use this advantage on the battlefield, and not stop at those factories that we already have, and continue to work on maximizing the technological advantage on the battlefield, including. due to the use of relatively cheap unmanned aerial platforms that we know called phipidrons. perhaps a certain reformatting of what is called operational command in certain directions is coming, perhaps there will be a rethinking, perhaps there will be a general rethinking of the logic of war, so taking into account the mobilization processes that are being pushed on ukraine, we understand that a significant amount of living

resources must be trained. we understand that they should be taught to work with the appropriate equipment and so on and so forth, it is possible to adjust what is called the middle and maybe even part of the upper echelon of command, the process is serious, certainly, and here i have a very serious reservation regarding the rumors that are now actively spreading in the ukrainian information space, regarding the incredible rotation or replacement of general zaluzhnyi with another ukrainian... general in the position of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. why is this unacceptable now? the fact is that the lion's share of military-technical support from our western partners is also due to direct communications between the head of state, his apparatus and our western partners. after changing the title, the last name itself it may happen that we lose a certain period of time to establish new communication channels and opportunities.

now, during what is stealing active hostilities in different parts of the front, and during the moment when, according to the confirmation of general kyril budanov, the head of military intelligence of our country, that de facto, that the nearest month, maybe two, the enemy will still be try to transform their numerical superiority into territorial gains, that is, the enemy conducts its offensive campaign, or we have the opportunity to create and create conditions. to delay certain communication channels and, accordingly, receive a more flexible and prompt response from our western partners, the answer to this question is obvious no, we cannot afford it, but again there are certain internal political processes within our country that can to the extent to seriously influence certain decisions, which are currently in the hands of everyone and these

guys are actively involved. discussed in the ukrainian segment.