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or ministers, i think it will be easier, because i have been engaged in political journalism for 30 years, but i don't even know all the ministers by their first and last names, but to be honest, i think that you probably can't tell who the minister of ecology is now in ukraine, or the minister of social policy, because these people are so invisible, it is not clear what they do, they do not report to citizens publicly, they do not report to the supreme court. the council of ukraine, that is, this concentration of power that zelenskyi currently has, it can allow him to replace the lieutenant and chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, regarding other rotations that may take place in ukraine, as far as they can change the situation, worsen, improve the history of these five or six managers of zelenskyi, and maybe he and these five or six or six managers from... will be dismissed from their positions,
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well, the question here is not at all about the manager and not even about the effectiveness or not of this or that manager, the only question is that now zaluzhnyi has a high rating, which can be transformed into political influence, well this is the main problem, why are we here? we will come up with, and this is confirmed by the fact that now and not now, for the last year or so, there have been various sociological surveys conducted to order. different structures and they are conducted by different companies, and they show the model of elections in the event that they take place, and here is the result that zaluzhnyi has a high rating, his party, which does not yet exist, can occupy a more prominent position , than zelensky's current party, this is the whole problem, and therefore any government, it tries to see what will happen in the country a few moves ahead, if... what will happen, for example, will somehow
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be held, elections will be held, they see that there is a person who poses a threat to the political monopoly of power, and they are trying to remove this person from office, well, here is another very interesting story with ukrainian voters , if you ask me what is the position of a hard-working person, for example, on questions of economy, on questions of social policy, on questions of international policy, i cannot answer you, and no one can answer. because, well, the industrious will be in his position did not have the opportunity to this is to say, because it is not according to his appointment in the position, it is necessary to talk about such things, and but, but people endowed him with high trust, because they associate with them some kind of change, well, irony, you know what, at one time zelenskyi was elected in the same way by giving him some idea that he can do something positive, and now there are ukrainian elections. endows a hard-working person with such qualities, we
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do not know what these qualities are, from the word at all, because he is not a politician, but if he is suddenly fired, then he will have the opportunity to talk about his views on the economy, and on social issues, and on international politics, well, of course, if they are fired at all, for example, he will not be in the army, which i doubt, to be honest , that will be the case, but maybe he will have much more opportunities to talk about it, and then ironically... he will have more opportunities to be present in politics, so actually, this is all, these are all the maneuvers around how to get rid of the hard worker, because he has a high rating, it can have opposite consequences, because as a result he will have more opportunities to talk about those issues that can actually be called political, so it will not solve the main problem, but it is obvious that the attempt to somehow solve it prompts such strange maneuvers.
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with the dismissal of a whole cohort of officials who cover up the dismissal of the thing for which it was all done , well, in general, the story is not very good, because if we talk about politics, then if it has to return, then it has to return under those conditions, and when there is no military time, she must return to those conditions, when there are no restrictions on freedom of speech, when it is possible to hold political contests there, when there are no such conditions, then such political maneuvers are... well, they are dishonest and they are perceived very badly in society and undermine trust in all state power structures in general, therefore i would like us to talk about other things, but you see, we have to talk about political maneuvers in the conditions of a limited political struggle, and that is why, for example, such a question arises around figure skating, but again, the big one the problem is that it is difficult for the authorities to imagine a politician who theoretically can take more or more serious positions. we
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are talking about the probable resignation of a deserving person, because the future of ukraine, including the political future, depends on who will be in... the ukrainian state, because when we talk about a deserving person, a potential politician or political figure, we have to understand that as a political figure, he can only take place after the end of the war, after our victory, otherwise just any political activity it is impossible to have a hard-working person in uniform if he leaves the service, of course... he can be involved in politics, but we, you are right, mr. sergey, that we do not know a hard-working politician, just as we did not know a zelensky politician, in the 19th year people voted under zelenskyi, i don’t know how he was called the ukrainian
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macron, but it wasn’t exactly macron, that is, in the current situation, zaluzhny can be a political figure if he is a conditional third. the force that yevhen marchuk wanted to be in 1999, that is the third force, a strong general who can take the situation into his hands and to bring ukraine to some certain victory or to some order. mr. igor, why does zelenskyi's team care so much about zaluzhny's ratings, because this is a trust rating, and zaluzhny's trust rating is... probably a trust rating, including the armed forces of ukraine, that is, not only a diligent politician or a diligent general, obviously , that we are talking about the fact that he heads the structure on which the future of ukraine depends, which has
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the highest trust rating in the country, well, he personalizes it first of all, and that is why he really has such a high rating, although there is also a significant part of his actual rating, which is related to his... surname and the actions he takes, regarding such a picky attitude of the president's office in general to zaluzhnyi's rating, the problem here is something else , the office of the president is generally scrupulous about any people who fall into the rating and trust and trust in which is either commensurate, or even worse, more than that of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, that is, in this context, zelenskyi, well, he is very dependent in general, from such ratings, this is a common practice, by the way. in many democratic countries, in order not to go far, we can mention the two terms of the presidency of bill clinton, he was called the president of polls, that is, he checked all his actions for a long enough period of time, exclusively focusing on sociological polls, ratings of trust, distrust or the attitude of citizens to those initiatives , with which
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he spoke, zelenskyi has a similar, well , problem, probably why, because why does it become a problem, because it is possible that some part his entourage starts on these trust ratings not to... believe, well, to speculate and in principle to screw the president, talking about the fact that someone may pose a certain threat to him in the future, this is the first moment, the second moment, why i mention the entourage in particular, that's why that sometimes one gets the impression, at least it used to be clearer, now it may have faded somewhat, that the president's entourage is more interested in the fact that he ran for a second term than perhaps the president himself, and definitely, for example, not his wife the president, who allows herself there... to say that she would not like it very much, and she does not like this idea very much, and those around her understand that, well, without the president, they will not represent themselves, they have no political future, according to them everything must be done to ensure that the president is elected a second time to this position after the end of the war, and accordingly they pay attention to potential competitors as soon as
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they began to put a worthy person in these ratings, by the way, some of them were put on the initiative of the same office of the president , who ordered, they saw this dynamic, it alarmed them so much at first, and then, when several polls simply hypothetically measured some kind of conditional party of the hardworking or hardworking as a presidential candidate together with zelenskyi and they saw that the current head of state would lose, well, accordingly, everything immediately changed and they became so picky about the commander-in-chief, but there is a third point, he is probably the most important, i think that at first he must have been, and then the ratings were added, because he arose before these ratings appeared, in zaluzhnyi rather for everything, and what we know from the publi'. his statements, which are very rare, he has a different vision of what is happening at the front, he sees differently how ukraine should fight, and this is very different from that vision, too optimistic, it seems to me, which was partly perhaps even in the president's office today, there are stories
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about a counteroffensive, about the fact that we will liberate all territories, we will drink coffee in yalta, and so on, they were already distributed not by the military, but by representatives of the authorities, and accordingly it is clear that sooner or later... this vision, which was very different, came into conflict , and apparently, at some meetings , the commander-in-chief disagreed with the president, took his own position, and this led to what it led to, then i will tighten ... there were ratings , a political component appeared, these hypothetical polls appeared, measurements of who will become president, who will not become president, and as a result, we saw all the games that are happening now, well, what is this bad for the country, it seems to me unequivocally, because it is it seems that zaluzhny is almost being pushed into this politics, almost being forced to engage in this political activity in the future, although i absolutely agree that it is impossible to do this as long as the war that is being waged against us continues in the country. russian federation to present that after the hypothetical release zaluzhny leaves the military service and starts to engage
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in political activities there, well, for example, it is difficult for me, because then it will hit his rating very hard and his attitude can be very strong to change, precisely to the negative, yes, because his main association is that person who does a lot to protect the country. mr. vitaly, if such a diligent person will be dismissed, and this is probably a question of some certain. time, maybe a day, two, three, i don't know how much, if zaluzhny leaves this position, does zelenskyi's team realize that they will have to shoulder all the responsibility, well, because whoever comes after zaluzhny, will obviously be associated first of all with president zelenskyi, with his team, with this rotation, and zelensky will have to be the number one in this, don't talk about what the military will tell me, i will do what the military will submit
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in the law on mobilization, then we will pass it, is there such a risk? well, of course there is, and it will be so, i think that anyone who would be, who would come to the position of head committee, will obviously be associated with the bank, this will be the political responsibility of the president, there will be a final concentration of all resources, powers and leverage the country of the presidential team, these managers, about which we are saying today, and this is, accordingly , the responsibility of the president, and i am already predicting, inferring that in april, in may we will face a political crisis, and i do not know if the president will respond to this political crisis, what are the possible options for responding to it will be, as we see that contradictions are accumulating within the authorities, the power architecture, how many are accumulating... lines of tension, these are lines of tension not only with one head, but these are lines of tension with mayors and heads of local
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self-government, this is a line of tension with business, this is a line of tension with the military , not the generals, but officers and soldiers, when we talk about the rights of a soldier, this is the issue of mobilization, which cannot be carried out within the framework of the proposals submitted by the ministry of defense, by the way, this is a tension with separate... . by interest groups in the country , these are social groups that fall under the knife, the cutting of social expenditures in the country, this is fiscalization, and accordingly, such a line of tension that undermines the foundations of ukraine's stability, so the president has a very turbulent period ahead of him, and now removing the center , on which he could hang certain troubles, certain... negativity to try to translate, he actually gets rid of this center and
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takes the military command into his hands, no matter who he puts on or on the counter, accordingly he takes on himself all the negative baggage of the opposition to the president and indebted, on the one hand, on the other hand, he is forced to show something, to prove his ability to be, at the very least, no better than luzhny, but at least there will be an answer. by him, that is, it is the risk of some ill-advised operations, the risk of some actions which can be directed to the indication of some quick result, yes? and these are all losses, these are all great dangers, threats , that's why i'm like mine, it seems to me that this strategic helplessness, which we saw at the time at the big press conference of the president in... the ruling team, it persists even now , and they don’t have any strategy for how they can go through this difficult
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path, how to do it, how to get out of it in some positive way for themselves, i wouldn’t worry too much about the ratings in their place, it’s hard work, that’s right, as soon as hard work stops being the best the commanders of the armed forces, not much time will pass when the high ratings will decrease, some new figures will appear, and if he will still remain in... the armed forces, then by the time the political process thaws, well, he can be one of, and not the main opponent, yes, but to leave an industrious person... this is what passover 22 is all about , so you don’t do it, it will be worse, yes for the president, it’s also in the fact that you can no longer leave an industrious person in the position of head committee, because the level of a person interpersonal conflict, not institutional, but interpersonal the conflict has already reached a certain limit, after which only resignation is possible. the president
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communicates with lavkov only at the pond, and this is a form of formal communication. if we are talking about the fact that... that even the absence of any activity on the part of a diligent politician, then the processes that took place around him, especially the article in cnn, already made him a political figure, and not to react to it , the bank can’t either, this is paska 22, it can’t not fire and it can’t fire, but it’s necessary to educate situations, because this is already a crisis situation, a peak, threshold situation, and it's obvious that it's been a week... colleagues, we have to go on a short break, we'll be back literally in a minute, there are 10% discounts on bronchalik in the pharmacies psyllanyk, pam and oschad. problems with the joints limit movement, it is
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during our broadcast we conduct a survey, we ask you, friends, about this, whether you are satisfied with the work of the head of the armed forces of... ukraine valery zaluzhny, yes , no, everything is quite simple on youtube, or yes or no, write your opinion in the comments under this video, and don't forget to put, like this video so that it advances in youtube trends. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone and vote if you trust the honest man or or rather, whether the satisfaction of a hardworking person, 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these. numbers are free, i remind you that today we have vitaliy kulyk, igor reiterovych and serhiy taran on the air, before our break vitaliy said that there might be... a crisis, a political crisis, in a few months, as i understand it, in the spring , vitaliy klitschko began to comment on the possible resignation of zaluzhny, he
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said that ukraine is fighting, literally fighting for its existence, so it is worth stopping political intrigues and internal struggles, i will quote klitschko: "in many ways, thanks to zaluzhny, ukrainians really believed in our armed forces, which today enjoy the greatest trust, as they do." unfortunately, today is the moment when politics can prevail over common sense and the interests of the state, and this moment does not depend on the opportunist, i hope that the authorities understand the seriousness of the steps they are taking now and the full extent of their responsibility, that is vitaliy klitschko, he clearly understands that if the team... removes the hard worker, sooner or later it will return to him, because we have seen these attempts for five years to remove klychko in one way or another from the position
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of the head of the kyiv city state administration, or the mayor, mr. igor , can it be considered that klitschko is also one of zelensky's potential competitors in the presidential elections, and klitschko is now speaking. for the diligent, because he understands in principle that zelensky's team will then look for the next potential competitor for for zelenskyi and from zelenskyi , including, well, partly i think so, but with klitschko there is a different problem, now kyiv is simply more interested as a city with a large budget, a city that, well, in principle supports the processes of decentralization, and the mayor of kyiv supports the processes. implementation, and this to some extent prevents the president's office from engaging in the policy that they have been actively implementing since the 22nd year, i.e. the policy of maximum centralization,
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trying to capture all local resources there and transfer them to the central budget and already to dispose of them accordingly, so i think that this statement by klitschko is, well, on the one hand, it is a tribute to the support of the commander-in-chief, well, and the understanding that political processes have accelerated in the country and are proceeding. clearly not according to such a very positive, let's say , you know, scenario, and indeed kyiv sooner or later and the position of the head of kyiv, they will also be in the spotlight, for example, in the verkhovna rada, accordingly, and a commission there , a temporary investigative commission is being created, yes , to check what is there and how kyiv is doing, that is there is also a certain element, well, on one side of control, on the other side of pressure, so i think that behind the nickname we will see some more certain statements, publicly, not publicly, that will be made. well, in the context of possible changes in the commander-in-chief, because everyone will now start looking for themselves in the then-new reality with an eye on the end of the war, and on some already normal, adequate
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political processes, political struggle, which sooner or later will return to ukraine. thank you, mr. serhiy, eh, can zelenskyi's team solve this negativity, which is one way or another will be after the release of zaluzhny, if they offer some formula of creation. some kind of government, technocratic, let's call it, not the government of national unity, because i think that it scares the zelenskyi team, the technocratic government, the change of the prime minister and the obvious division of responsibility, including the political one, and in this way zelenskyi will get engaged, relatively speaking , with the support of other political forces, and neutralizes other potential candidates for the post of president. well, as they say, there are two big differences in odessa, the technocratic government and the government of national unity, because a technocratic government is a government without political
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ties, but it is actually that way to a large extent now, because the only tie that exists in the current government is the tie to zelensky, no more ties there are no connections, well, it is hardly such a classic technocratic government, but it is at least the government where there are no surnames, if we are talking about the national government. unity, then it should be formed by political parties, there should be joint political responsibility. in principle, this step would be very correct the beginning of the war, and he would have just demonstrated to the society the real national unity, by the way, also dividing the political responsibility for what is happening in the country, and the party simply would not even have a reason to criticize each other, because they would all be part of the government and all would be responsible for this, so they could criticize... except themselves, but now to create such a political government, well, in principle, it would also be possible, it's never too late, but i don't see the desire of the authorities now.
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i think they are ready for such a government they are not ready to, by the way , also help the country and them, because it would also share the responsibility for everything that is happening in ukraine, but they are not ready for this, so i do not even consider such an option how realistic it is, right or wrong, is another question, but the fact that the government is not ready for it is a fact, so i do not think that it will somehow be possible to settle this negativity, which will be inevitable after the possible, possible resignation of the hard-working, although... you know, now, if we talk about the success of theoretical elections after the end of martial law , although it is very early to talk about it, but if we are already talking about political processes, we are already forced to talk about it, then to a large extent it will depend on the results that will be in ukraine at the time of the return of political processes , and the results can be very different, we have to be ready for this, it
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may not be the result that we were told about in the single marathon, it may be a huge victory, but it may also be that there will be some kind of victory , i would called it soft, and these results will influence the elections, even these ratings that are currently being measured, of course, they matter, but the most significant factor influencing the results of the elections will be the results of this truce, i do not believe, by the way, that any truce will bring us... final peace as long as we have such a neighbor as russia next to us, but maybe some kind of truce is theoretically possible, especially it can be after a theoretical change of power in the united states, i think that in the fall there will definitely be some kind of bidding of a geopolitical scale, it may happen for some option, and this option, so that it does not happen, this will be the decisive factor that will finally determine the fate of the elections and answer your question, whether it will be possible to catch
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the negative of a possible resignation. thank you, mr. serhiy, mr. vitaly, one and a half minutes, what would you advise the authorities in the current situation to avoid this political crisis that you mentioned? well, first of all, to show sincerity, to say that we really have a conflict, let's solve it somehow, we see the solution of this conflict in this way, and to address this not to western mass media, but to the ukrainian people or the ukrainian mass media, with a direct appeal, possibly even an interactive appeal. maybe it would save, but not save , let's say, it would reduce the risks for the government, firstly, secondly, it's a dialogue, the marathon has exhausted itself, we need to talk about debates, elements of the political process, are they coming back or not otherwise, i am more than convinced that the political process will return in one form or another, as we would tried to say that this is impossible during martial law, that is, no, he will return, and we
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are all already observing the elements of this political process. certain pools are already being formed, there are already startup companies, the tools are still weak, but the political process is being restored closer to the month of may, again, it will be accumulated as much as possible , the political process will enter, break through, so i would now call on the bank to be sincere , but this is wandering in the desert, because there, there, now , they did not talk about big risks and big rating, thank you mr. vitaly, serhii taran were guests of our program today. during our program, friends, we conducted a survey, we asked you whether you are satisfied with the work of the head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi, the results of our television survey were 95% yes, 5% no. for espresso, we have 96% yes, 4% no on youtube, the espresso channel. thank you. thank you to everyone who
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