politicians, i can't answer you, and no one can answer, because a good-hearted person in his position didn't have the opportunity to talk about it, because it's not his appointment in the position to talk about such things, and but, but people assigned and endow him with high trust, because they associate some kind of change with them, well , you know what the irony is, that at one time zelensky was elected, also endowing him with some ideas about what he can do. positive, and now the ukrainian voter endows the diligent with such qualities, we do not know what these qualities are, from the word at all, because he is not a politician, but if he is suddenly released, then he will have the opportunity to talk about his views on the economy, and on social issues, and on international politics, well, of course , if he is fired at all, for example, he will not be in the army, which i doubt, to be honest, that this will be the case, but maybe he will have much more... opportunities

to talk about it, and then, ironically, he will have more opportunities to be present in politics, so in fact, that's all, that's all maneuvering around how to fire the industrious, because he has a high rating, it can have the opposite consequences, because as a result he will have more opportunities to talk about those issues that can actually be called political, so it will not solve the main problem, but obviously trying somehow... to solve this and prompts such strange maneuvers with the dismissal of a whole cohort of officials, which cover up the dismissal of what it was all done for, well, in general, the story is not very good, because if we talk about politics, then she already, if she must return, she must return under those conditions, and when there is no martial law, she must return under those conditions, when there are no restrictions on freedom of speech, when there is an opportunity to hold political competitions there, when... such conditions

no, these are political maneuvers, they are dishonest , and they are perceived very badly in society, and they undermine trust in general in all state power structures, so i would like us to talk about other things, but you see, we have to talk about political maneuvers in conditions of limited political struggle, and therefore for example, such a question is raised around the figure of zaluzhnyi, but again, the biggest problem is that it is difficult for the authorities to imagine a politician who theoretically can... take more or more serious ratings than the current government, this is the main problem , everything else is like that, it's just a design. we are talking about the probable resignation of a good man, in that the future of ukraine depends on who will be at the head of the ukrainian state, including the political future, because when we talk about a good man, how about a potential politician or political figure, we have to understand that as a political figure.

figure, it can take place only after the end of the war, after our victory , otherwise simply, any political activity of a soldier in uniform is impossible, if he leaves the service, he can of course engage in politics, but we, you are right, mr. sergey, that we don’t know a zaluzhny politician, just like they didn’t know a zelensky politician, in the 19th year people voted for zelenskyi as i don’t know how they called him the ukrainian macron, but it wasn’t exactly macron, that is , in the current situation, zaluzhny can be a political figure, if he will be a conditional third force, which is what yevhen marchuk wanted to be in 1999, a third force, a strong general who can take the situation into his hands and lead ukraine. to some certain victory

or to some order, mr. igor, why is zelenskyi's team so concerned with zaluzhny's ratings, because it is a trust rating, and zaluzhny's trust rating is probably a trust rating including in the armed forces of ukraine, that is, not exclusively in the politician industrious or to the industrious general, it is obvious that we are talking about the fact that he heads the structure on which the future of ukraine depends, which has the highest trust rating in the country? well, he personalizes it, first of all, and that is why he really has such a high rating, although there is a significant part of his rating, which is related to his surname and the actions he does. regarding such a meticulous attitude of the president's office in general to zaluzhnyi's rating, the problem is different here: the president's office is generally meticulous about any people who get into it. rating

and trust and trust to which well or commensurate or even worse there than with the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, that is, in this context, zelenskyi is very dependent in general. from such ratings, by the way, this is a common practice in many democratic countries, so as not to go too far, we can mention the two terms of the presidency of bill clinton, he was called the president of opinion polls, that is, he checked all his actions for a long enough period of time, focusing exclusively on sociological polls, ratings of trust, lack of trust, or the attitude of citizens to those initiatives with which he spoke, zelenskyi has a similar problem, apparently, why, because, why does it become a problem, because maybe some part of him... begins to distrust these trust ratings, to speculate and, in principle , to screw the president, talking about the fact that someone may pose a certain threat to him in the future, this is the first moment, the second moment, why i mention the entourage in particular, because , well, sometimes one gets such an impression, before

at least it was more clear, now it may have faded somewhat, that it is the president's entourage who is more interested in that he ran for a second term, than perhaps the president himself, and definitely... not the president's wife, who allows herself to tell you in an interview that she would not like it very much, and she does not like this idea very much, and those around her understand that well, without the president, they will not represent themselves, they have no political future, accordingly, they must do everything to ensure that the president is elected for the second time to this position after the end of the war, and accordingly, they pay attention to potential competitors, only those who are worthy began to be put in these ratings, by the way, some of them were put on the initiative of the same office of the president who ordered. they saw this dynamic, it alarmed them so much at first, and then, when several polls simply hypothetically measured some kind of conditional party of the hard-working or hard-working as a presidential candidate together with zelensky, and they saw that the current head of state would lose, well , accordingly, everything immediately changed and they have become

so picky about the commander-in-chief, but there is a third point, it is probably the most important, i think that he was probably there first, and then the ratings were added, because he appeared before these ratings appeared. most likely, zaluzhnyi , and what we know from his public statements, which are very rare, has a different vision of what is happening at the front. he sees differently how ukraine should fight, and this is very different from the vision, too optimistic, it seems to me, that was and partly, perhaps, even exists in the office of the president today. stories about the counteroffensive, about the fact that we will free everyone territories, we will drink coffee in yalta and so on, they were not distributed by the military, but by the authorities. and accordingly it can be seen that sooner or later this vision, which was very different, came into conflict, well , apparently at some meetings the commander-in-chief disagreed with the president, took his own position, and this led to what it led to, then the ratings went up , a political

component appeared, these hypothetical polls appeared, measurements of who will become president, who will not become president, and so on we saw as a result all those games that are happening now, well, the fact that it is bad for the country seems clear to me. significantly, because it seems that zaluzhnyi is almost being pushed into this politics, almost being forced to somehow engage in this political activity in the future, although i absolutely agree that it is impossible to do this as long as the war continues in the country, which the russian federation is leading against us, to imagine that there after a hypothetical release , the conscript leaves the military service and begins to engage in political activity there, well, for example, it's difficult for me, because it will hit his rating very hard and the attitude can change very much. just in the negative, yes, because his main association is that person who does a lot to protect the country. mr. vitaly, if zaluzhny will be dismissed, and this is probably a matter of some time, maybe a day, two, three, i don't know how long. if

zaluzhny leaves this position, does zelenskyi's team realize that they will have to take on everything. responsibility, well , because anyone who comes after zaluzhny, will obviously be associated first of all with president zelenskyi, with his team, with this rotation, and zelenskyi will have to be number one in this story, not to talk about what the military will tell me there, i will do what the military will submit in the mobilization law, then we will decide whether there is such a risk, of course there is. and so it will be, i think that anyone who would be, who would come to the position of head committee, will obviously be associated with the bank, this will be the political responsibility of the president, there will be a final concentration of all resources, the powers and leverage of ukraine's influence in the presidential team, these managers

that we are talking about today, and this is accordingly the responsibility of the president, and i am already predicting, inferring that in april and may we will face a political crisis, and... i don't know, how will the president respond to this political crisis, what are the possible options for responding to it, as we see that contradictions are accumulating within the powerful, the power architecture. how many voltage lines are accumulated, these are voltage lines not only with one head, but these are lines tension with mayors and heads of local self-government, this is a line of tension with business, this is a line of tension with the military, not the generals, but officers and soldiers, when we talk about the rights of soldiers, this is the question of mobilization, which will not be possible within the framework of those proposals, which are transferred by the ministry of defense, by the way. this is the tension with certain interest groups in the country, these

are social groups that fall under the knife, the cutting of social expenditures in ukraine, this is fiscalization, and accordingly, such a line of tension that undermines the foundations of stability of ukraine, that is why the president has a very turbulent period ahead of him, and now, removing the center on which he could... uh, hang certain troubles, certain negativity, try to transfer, he actually gets rid of this center and takes the military command into his hands , no matter who stands on the bench, accordingly, he takes on all the negative baggage of the confrontation between the president and the incumbent, on the one hand, on the other hand, he is forced to show something, to prove his ability to be, well, in the last resort... not better worthy, but at least be corresponding, that is, it is the risk of some

ill-advised operations, the risk of some actions that can be directed to the indication of some quick result, and these are all losses, these are all great dangers, threats, so i am like mine, it seems to me that this the strategic helplessness that we saw at the time at... the big press conference of the president in the ruling team, it persists even now, and they have no strategy for how to go through this difficult path, how to get out of positive for myself, i wouldn't worry too much about theirs the city by the ratings of zaluzhny, but absolutely, as soon as zaluzhny ceases to be the top commander of the armed forces, not much time will pass when the high ratings will decrease, some new figures will appear. and if he still remains in the system of the armed forces, then by the time

the political process is thawed, well, he may be one of, and not the main opponent, yes, but to leave the meritorious person in this is what easter 22 is all about, so you don’t do it, it will be worse , yes, for the president, it is also in the fact that it is no longer possible to leave a hard-working person in the position of head committee, because the level interpersonal conflict. not of institutions , but of interpersonal conflict has already reached a certain limit, after which only resignation is possible, the president communicates with glavkov only on the pond, and this is a form of formal communication, if we are talking about the fact that even the absence of any activity on the part of a diligent politician, then already by itself, the processes that took place around him, especially the article in cnn, already made him a political figure. and the bank can’t not react to it either, this paska 22 can’t and can’t release it, but well

situations need to be brought up, because this is already a crisis situation, a peak, threshold situation, and it is obvious that the situation will be resolved in a week, at most two. thank you, mr. vitaly, colleagues, we have to go for a short break, we will be back in just a few minutes. verdict with serhiy rudenko, from now on in a new two-hour format. even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests, foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and also feedback, you can express your opinion on the day of with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhii rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 at espresso. this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, we continue our broadcast, a reminder. that during our broadcast we conduct a survey , we ask you, friends, about this, whether you are satisfied

with the work of the head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi, yes no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, write your opinion in the comments below video and don't forget to like this video in order for it to be trending on youtube, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone and vote if you trust the hard worker, or rather, if you are satisfied with the work... 0800 211 381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, let me remind you that today we have vitaliy kulyk, igor reiterovich and... before our break, vitaliy said that there might be a political crisis in a few months, i understand that in the spring, vitaliy klitschko started commenting the possible resignation of the servant, he said that ukraine is fighting, literally fighting for its

existence, so it is worth stopping political intrigues and internal struggles, to quote klitschko, thanks in large part to this. zaluzhny ukrainians truly believed in our armed forces, which today enjoy the greatest trust, as a military man and in the war, general valery zaluzhny went through many difficult moments, only he himself knows how much in reality, and unfortunately, today is the moment when politics can prevail common sense and the interests of the state, and this moment does not depend on the poor, i hope the government understands the seriousness of the steps it is taking now and the fullness of its responsibility, so... vitaliy klitschko, he definitely understands that if zelensky's team removes luzhnyi, sooner or later he will return to him, because we see these attempts five years to remove klitschko in one way or another from the position of the head of the kyiv city state administration or the mayor,

mr. igor, can it be assumed that klitschko is also... one of zelenskyi's potential competitors in the presidential elections and that klitschko is now standing for the hard-working , because does he understand in principle that zelenskyi's team will then look for the next potential competitor for zelenskyi and from zelenskyi as well? well, partly, i think so, but the problem is a little different, now kyiv is simply more interesting as a city with a big budget. a city that, well, in principle supports the processes of decentralization, and the mayor of kyiv supports the processes of decentralization, and this to some extent prevents the president's office from engaging in the policy that they have been actively implementing since the 22nd year, that is, precisely the policy of maximum centralization, attempts to capture all local resources there and transfer them to the central budget and

dispose of them accordingly, that is why i think that this statement by klitschko is, well, on the one hand, it is a tribute of support, probably, to the head. well, and the understanding that political processes have accelerated in the country, and they are clearly not following such a very positive scenario, let's say, you know, but indeed kyiv, one way or another sooner or later the position of the head of kyiv, they are also in the focus of attention will find themselves, for example, in the verkhovna rada, and the commission is already there accordingly a temporary investigative commission is being created, yes, to check what is there and how kyiv is doing, this is also a certain element, well, on one side of control, on the other side of pressure, so i think... that we will see some more certain statements from klitschko publicly, not publicly , which will be done, well, in the context of possible changes in the commander-in-chief, because everyone will now begin to look for themselves in the then-new reality with an eye on the end of the war, well, on some already normal, adequate political processes, a political struggle that sooner or later he will return to ukraine. thank you,

mr. sergey, can zelenskyi's team solve this. the negativity that will one way or another be after the dismissal of the tyrant, if they propose some formula for the creation of some kind of government, technocratic, let's call it, not a government of national unity, because i think it scares zelensky's team, a technocratic government, a change of the prime minister and obviously separation of responsibility, including political responsibility, and in this way zelensky will, conditionally speaking, win the support of other political forces, and neutralize other potential candidates for the post of president, well, as they say , there are two big differences in odessa, a technocratic government and a government of national unity, because a technocratic government is a government without political ties, but it is actually such a government to a large extent now, because the only priv the link that exists

in the current government is the link to zelenskyi, there are no other links, well, it is hardly... a classic technocratic government, but at least it is the government where there are no surnames. if we are talking about a government of national unity, then it should be formed by political parties, there should be a common one political responsibility. in principle, this step would have been very correct at the beginning of the war, and it would have demonstrated to the society the true national unity. by the way, having also shared the political responsibility for what is happening in the country, the party simply did not even have it. reasons to criticize each other, because they would all be part of the government and all would be responsible for it, so they could criticize, except themselves, and now create such a political government, well, in principle. this would also be possible it's never too late, but i don't see the desire of the authorities for such a government now, it seems to me that they are not ready for it, which, by the way, would only

help the country and them, because it would also divide the responsibility for all that what is happening in ukraine, but they are not ready for it, so i do not even consider such an option as realistic, whether it is right or wrong is another question, but the fact that the authorities are not ready for it is a fact, so i do not think , which will somehow succeed. settle this negativity, which will inevitably occur after the possible the possible resignation of the meritorious officer, although, you know, now, if we talk about the success of the theoretical elections after the end of martial law, although it is too early to talk about it, well, if we are already talking about political processes, we are already forced to talk about it, then to a large extent it will depend on the results that will be in ukraine at the time of the return of political processes. and the results can be very different, we have to be ready for this, it may not be the result that we were told about in the single marathon, it may

be a huge victory, but it may also be the case that there will be some temporary victory, i would call it that, it is soft, and these results will influence the elections, even these ratings that are currently being measured, of course they matter, but the most significant factor influencing the outcome... of the election will be the results of this truce, i do not believe, by the way, that any truce will bring us final peace as long as we have such a neighbor as russia next to us, but maybe some remeasurement is theoretically possible, especially it can be after theoretical change of power in the united states , i think that in the fall there will definitely be some kind of negotiations of a geopolitical scale , some option may be reached, and this option, if it does not happen, this will be the decisive factor that will finally... determine the fate of the elections and answer to your question, will it be possible to catch the negativity of a possible resignation for thank you, thank you, mr. serhiy, mr. vitaly, for a minute and a half, what would you advise the authorities in

the current situation in order to avoid this political crisis that you mentioned? well, first of all, to show sincerity, to say that we really have a conflict, let's somehow solve it, we see the solution of this conflict in this way, and do not turn to western means for this. information, but to the ukrainian people through the ukrainian media, with a direct appeal, with perhaps even an interactive appeal, but maybe it would save, but not save, let's say, it would reduce the risks for the government, this is firstly, secondly , this is a dialogue, the marathon has exhausted itself, we need to talk about debates, elements of the political process, they are coming back one way or another otherwise, i am more than convinced that the political process will return in one form or another, no matter how much we try to say that it is not... maybe during martial law, that is, no, it will return, and already the elements of this political process are all of us we are watching, there is already the formation of certain pools, there is already the launch of information

companies, the toolkit is still weak, but the political process is being restored closer to the month of may, again, it will be accumulated as much as possible, it will enter, the political process will break through, so i would now i would call the bank to be sincere, but this is wandering in the desert, because - there is not there now, they have not apologized for big risks and big ratings. thank you, mr. vitaly. vitaly kulyk, ihor reiterovych and serhiy taran were guests of our program today. during our program, friends, we conducted a survey, we asked you whether you are satisfied with the work of the head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi, the results of our television survey were 95% yes, 5% no. for espresso, we have it on youtube. espresso channels, 96% yes, 4%, no. thanks to everyone who voted thank you to everyone who watched,

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