fire and then for several more hours they did not even allow the body of this dead man to be taken away, so now, in order to prevent similar cases from happening, it is necessary to more carefully, more strictly control the movement of people in this strip along the border itself, mr. oleksiy, and what is happening with on the border with belarus, as i read the news from belarus, lukashenko, as it turned out, signed a law stating that the military... in belarus can shoot civilians without warning . on the border with belarus, relatively speaking, half of the border, say, of the border territory, that is, chernihiv oblast borders the russian federation and the other half with the republic of belarus, there have been no shelling across the border with belarus in all these previous months, and this... there is always

shelling almost from across the territory of the russian federation, but, but everywhere the border is being strengthened and the positions of our troops are being strengthened, that is, both on the border with russia and on the border with belarus, the military does not tell the details about this, but, but from time to time we simply observe, observe signs, indirect signs that the border is strengthening and... the presence of the armed forces here is also increasing, that is, it is intensifying, movements , movements of any suspicious near the border from the belarusian side were not present, but what concerns, what concerns the decisions of the ruling lukashenko's regime in belarus, of course, that one must be ready for any provocations from the enemy and for any aggressive actions. and mr. oleksiy, here is this special mode, by the way, of a two-kilometer, five-kilometer zone. how

it works in reality, like people, which means for example, a two-kilometer zone is now a border zone, which means stricter control of movements, that is, for example, they can prohibit it simply where it was, where the passage was open even for local residents, civilians, now it can be blocked for some transport arteries, so... for example , what i mentioned, a man died there in his simple, well, a civilian resident of one of the border villages, he was driving to his home and he was driving in his civilian car, in his own car, and he was driving along , literally kilometers from the state of the border, i.e. in such cases, i.e. it turns out that in such cases, it is possible that they will be blocked for some time in view of that.

what is the current situation, secondly, do not miss, that is, random people who do not live there, who do not have a permanent job there, for example, need to be in this place because of work, this is the second point, well, it is immediately obvious, it is also obvious to control, check who is there, who can be there from among the people, so that they are not some saboteurs, swordsmen and so on further, that is... control over transport routes, over documents, checks, and obviously some kind of message of hope also for the activities of law enforcement agencies, well, in chernihiv, i will ask you one last question, after the russians shelled the city in august, and shelled in particular the regional musical drama theater, in fact , the main auditorium was recently opened and there was a performance. drink to the poems of taras shevchenko,

were you, mr. oleksiy, at this performance, which is generally said in the city that the theater is starting its work? unfortunately, i personally did not attend the performance was, but this is really a very significant event, it is, first of all, first of all, it is the revival, the restoration of the normal activity of the theater, that is, the main stage is already working, although since... in the fall, two, two small stage spaces were already working, and now the main stage is working , it was very difficult to repair it and prepare it to receive spectators, because the ceiling above the main auditorium was destroyed, and therefore the contractors had to work a lot on it, and the funds in it is nested several, not even one, several international... charitable

funds from several countries attracted funds from partners of ukraine, and therefore it happened now, and in general, the work is ongoing, that is, it has already started. work of the theater in its usual mode regarding the performances on the main stage, and in the meantime, work continues, including those on the same roof, and the walls are strengthened and work is underway on the facade, that is, all this continues until spring, well, work many more thank you for the conversation, thank you for the information from chernihiv oblast, oleksiy maslov, journalist from chernigov was closed to us, now we will move to oku'. berdyansk through a conversation with the deputy head of the berdyansk district council, viktor dudukalus , we are in touch, mr. viktor, we congratulate you, i congratulate you that your sources from occupied berdyansk inform you that there are no fresh new explosions there, quiet and calm, well, how can you

say that it is quiet and calm in a city in which there is neither silence nor peace due to the fact that the occupiers just came there from... chechnya, the caucasus and so on, and constant problems, constant crimes, like the military crimes, and just crimes, murders, thefts and so on, well, total horror with everything to do with the civilian population, from the flu epidemic, which is said to have already killed two children, but not confirmed, and ending with the fact that nothing has changed with infrastructure and life. the life of the people there in berdyansk during the occupation is today a total and continuous catastrophe, and someone says that it is quiet and calm and will be right, but is that good for us, well, it is terrible, well, you say so, but they say that in fact life has become it's better, life has become more fun, but i read in

the news of the occupiers that the berdyanskyi district wanted people were delivered by a utility vehicle, which will now deliver drinking water to the residents. it's not so bad, the guard car, of course, is of chinese production, well, in russia it doesn't work any other way now, so life became fun, a whole car for berdyansk arrived with water, well, you know, it's very revealing these asinizers, which really there from china, which has such a validity period that it will not be very long, in which, and we also remember our curse decentralization, thanks to which normal transport was bought, and today... it is very revealing in medicine, precisely because not so long ago, you know, there was updated information on the network that at one time we used to buy cars manufactured by the angry europe, renault or citroen or

peugeot, and today, it is not clear where these ambulances are, but the bukhas themselves came to replace them. tanks, i don't know how long they are designed there, 60 years old, and there, probably, with such the door closes with the same sound as before, and today they come and in all seriousness say that yes, yes, indeed, we have brought you new cars here, they are new officially, but they are loaves, well, in reality it is incredibly outdated, just scrap metal, and they drag this scrap metal to our previously developed territory, so that the social elevator goes down. as of today, i also read that a certain resident was detained in berdyansk, who is accused of being on the instructions of the main intelligence agency of ukraine was preparing to blow up a column of military equipment, and they even demonstrate that they got 19

mortar shells from him, i don't know how he was going to blow up that column with shells, throw them from a slingshot, well, but less so. well, that's also, surely, what does this indicate about these arrests that are ongoing in berdyansk? well, this shows that the occupiers, well, they are trying to keep the local population in such a terrible tone, that is, so that everyone is constantly afraid and understands that not today, but tomorrow, the black varanok will come and whether you are guilty, or you are not guilty, or you able to blow up a column with mortar shells, or not, but they can come for you and... they will find in you either some weapons that you did not have from your family, or symbols, they are very, very afraid of ukrainian symbols and separately there they are afraid of azov symbols , it was simply a trend at one time in every suspicious garage to find ukrainian

symbols, azov symbols, and everything that is related to ukrainian, that there is literature, that there are some badges, chevrons and tds, etc., these are all in ... they find, well, it is clear that they are they are found during some raids or searches earlier, and then they are brought to people and they allegedly take out grain from them there or for... what is this done for, in order to show their kremlin curators that they are allegedly engaged in counter-terrorist, counter-divorce subversive activities there . in fact, we understand that this has nothing to do with it, and well, in my estimation, recalling their so-called trials there or investigative processes of some kind, regarding people who, according to their assessments, again, committed terrorist attacks, it was simply a hanging of everything that they couldn't open and find. but the executors of the sabotage that took place there, well, they simply hanged those who are obviously patriots,

that is , they caught young people for tearing down the flag somewhere on some building or institution, tomorrow these young people will be hanged, that they tried to blow up some locker room on the railway, so this is not this is an absolutely identical case, and it is very unfortunate that people are suffering without doing anything and without taking such active actions, nevertheless the occupiers ... something must be reported, that in they were deepened and expanded by all law enforcement agencies and everything that could be revealed, even those crimes that had not yet been committed, that's it. i have known pochek since the age of 14, what they did in luhansk region, in donetsk region, my friend eventually spent three years in the basements of the lpr, the so-called, he went to his parents, who could not leave because they were no longer well mobile, and... he came to them and to him, this funnel came to him, and

immediately they threw grenades at him, and accused him of being a ukrainian terrorist and saboteur, for three years, then in exchange for not so long ago on the eve of the invasion , only he was able to return to ukraine, so we know this search, this is the easiest thing to do, i looked at those mines and rusty ones, i don't know where they brought them from, that i don't know if they in working condition, well, for sure they... carry them from one to the other and throw them all in turn, but of course this is also the risk of those people who remain pro-ukrainian, disloyal to the occupiers, but remain in berdyansk, yes indeed, and there are father ming photographers, it is very terrible that they come, take pictures, and then they report, and then these people are tortured in the basements, so yes, really, well , there is really not much funny here, because for people, these are irreparable health consequences. and besides, the occupiers are recruiting

young people in berdyansk, here the journalists of the berdyansk edition today identified one such occupier, oleksandr anatoliyovych shakheriv from the city of yalutorovsk, tyumen region, at home he worked in criminal investigation, but in berdyansk most likely , as rosgvardiets for... deals with what agitates the boys to be volunteers and go fight for the russian people, or what to do with such boys, or do they have any choice, well , today it is agitation, active, but exclusively agitation, and the choice is always there, staying there in the occupied territory, today you can still , well, you can freeze, in short, from... those agitators and from those trips to the military headquarters and to the so-called battalions, i will note

a slightly different point here, you can assess the scale of the problems of the occupiers, if they are trying to crush today with this total propaganda young people are trying to suppress the local population by recruiting and campaigning for their own units, and i remember that more than a year ago , announcements began and meetings began for the battalion named after sodoplatov, and somewhere he disappeared from the radar so quickly that they were actively recruiting people there , recruited, recruited, quickly disappeared from the radar, not so long ago i began to find out what happened to him, it turns out that sodoplatov's battalion is already the 200th battalion, and accordingly the remnants of that battalion are scattered around different divisions, his in general, well, physically, in fact, it does not exist, the local population knows about it, they know about the negative success of the russian army and... this is the best reason for the local population to respond to that propaganda and agitation in the appropriate and correct way

, and especially the youth know this, because who but the youth in the messengers there or in the channels or in the public, everything will be seen, felt and heard correctly, and the next point that i would define here is about that junk, which even imagine a so-called person who has not achieved success even in russia, at what level is it... you need to be mental, intellectual, so that in a country where there are no, practically no laws, and in which, i don't know how many percent there are, but for 50 there are... beyond the limit of alcoholism, drug addiction or other problems, and not to succeed there and to go to this occupied territory, not recognized by anyone, and to tell someone about something there, that is, it is simply not necessary, to go there and teach our children something, well, i am up to the fact that it will again be incredibly terrible the level of culture, the level

of society is brought up to all these needs, when we return there, and i... today i wonder what we will do with that society, imagine what is there, what is the washing of the cities, and today with people everything is yours and yours to say, because, despite their power as ukrainians, all the same , the propaganda affects them a little, and i understand that these are also the consequences, and today we have to think about how to eliminate them, but i believe in our youth, because the queue for all the formations there did not stand, does not stand, and i'm sure they stand. will not, for the reasons that i have identified, i would like to hope for that, but those people who, for example, are now collecting drones, because the russians have established the production of drones in berdyansk, who are these people, they are not imported, they are among the locals, probably recruited, but you know , among the locals,

it turned out that there is a percentage of those who were stitched up, who were the fertile ground when... the seed of russianness was planted, that is, there were no more than 10% of the locals who supported the russians, there were more than 10% who received a passport , yes, indeed, but it did not become more than 10%, which are there they drown one after the other, and as for the assembly of drones investigated by the partisans, they themselves say that it is not such an industrial production, which is very serious there. will influence the front, and therefore, accordingly, it may not be filled with such a huge number of people, and i will say this that the occupiers do not so often allow locals to such productions, to such secret facilities, because they are in every local , even to the one who defines himself as pro-russian, they are looking for an enemy and they are looking for them traitor, and i'm more than sure that if

there are any locals there, they've been so filtered through... polygraphs through everything else that the russians absolutely had to admit that the locals are 150% reliable, so here we are must understand that a local collaborator does not always mean that the russians fully trust him, and there is still room for mistrust and doubt, and as for the production of drones in general, i would like to see one more ukrainian, more specifically, ukrainian drone on... that production, god forbid thank you, mr. viktor, viktor dudukalov, the deputy chairman of the berdyansk district council , was in touch with us, they talked about what is happening in berdyansk, we are going now for a short break, we will return and continue our roll call, we will, we will visit sumy, we will ask, how are things there, and you stay with us, there are discounts on citramondarnitsa, 10% in

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talk about what is happening in sumy and how the night passed there, andriana kostenko, doctor of political studies, head of the center for social studies and member of the board of the public organization intellect of the sumy region, joins us, ms. andriano, good morning, good morning, congratulations, how did sumshchyna sleep? this night, well, like last night, traditionally, unfortunately, the russians shelled the border areas, the military administration reported that 11 communities were injured during the past day, unfortunately there are wounded, there is a dead person in the vorozhbyan community was hit by artillery fire, a civilian was killed, there are also two wounded and very badly injured. the midobudur community, in particular, five people were injured there, that is, nothing, unfortunately

, changes in sumy oblast, the border constantly suffers every day and every night from terrorist attacks by the russian federation, are there any cases of the penetration of russian drgs across the border . well, according to statistics, precisely in the sumy region... such cases happen often, enemy drgs are often caught, they carry out, again, such terrorist operations, they terrorize the local population, a few weeks ago there was information that a family was killed, in fact a brother and sister, there is constantly information that they get into the territory of the sumy region, try to change its area, so they do something there, often it is our territorial defense by local forces, even the local

population detains such and such and such persons, so often the population knows very well is on the alert, it reports on such cases, well, but often enough, often drgs fall on ours in ours. are you also being discussed in sumy oblast about the possible resignation and impossibility, certainly and very likely resignation of valery zaluzhny, and what do you, by the way, also think about it, and to us, do you understand the logic of this decision, can you explain it? eh, i am not a military expert and i always know the limits, i am asking precisely the political, political side, political side of this issue, if we consider this issue specifically... from a political point of view point of view, you know, from the position of political dividends and support, then we see that it is social capital, the level of trust is very

high, in valor. zuluzhnoy, and any changes in command, military command, of course, will affect the legitimacy, including political power, that is, these changes may be due to certain professional decisions related to the tasks of the armed forces of ukraine, with those tasks that are part of both defense and counteroffensive and... in fact, to win back the territories that were occupied, seized by the russian federation, but if you look specifically from a political point of view, to see how such a possible decision can affect the level of trust, in particular in the president, and in the office of the president, and in general in political power, then it is definitely not will increase her confidence, will not increase, i would say so, the understanding

of why such decisions are needed in such a difficult time can change more or less, the negative consequences can be reduced if the authorities are able to communicate and prepare the population, because now the masses have the means mass information in so far, similar rumors have been submitted to the media from the position that it is faster, well, such an unreasonable decision. and people don't understand, actually, why there should be valery zaluzhny's resignation, well, actually, when the president talks about rebooting the power, somehow, or the power model, i don't remember exactly how he expressed himself there in the interview, in italian , for some reason, again, a journalist, well, i don’t wonder why italian, and why exactly not ukrainian journalists, that is, president zelenskyy does not communicate with ukrainian journalists, in principle, i also understand why, well, but not less what this reboot might be about.

are there any dangers at all of any reboots during the war, shouldn't we just go back to the constitutional models, where the parliament is the parliament, the cabinet is the cabinet, the office of the president is the office of the president, well what do you think about that, well what do we have to understand that in times of war it is traditional, and it is normal, when a certain centralization of power takes place, and what we are currently observing, and at the level of national power, even at the level of local power, every leader tries to usurp, to centralize power around oneself, therefore the attempt of the office of the president, in particular the head of state, to reset it in a certain way, well, in my opinion, this is an attempt , instead of strengthening democratic institutions, on the contrary, to strengthen their... their

power because of the fact that to place my people in specific places, well, i would rather say that as a scientist, you know, the results of research and analysis show that wars are won, strangely enough, by parliamentary republics, i was recently introduced to one such large research, during 100 years of analysis. about 60 soldiers analyzed the results of the warriors and actually looked not only at which regimes win, but also at what form of government is more effective in the war, and strangely enough, although on the one hand there is a tendency to usurp the centralization of power, but only when an effective parliament is effective , when there are effective public organizations, then we will have more chances to win the war, and i would like to...

tell the president and the office of the president and all those who want to restart the government, after all, it is necessary to develop democratic institutions, and we are not fighting to end up with a dictatorship in our country. thank you ms. andriana for the conversation, andriana kostenko, doctor of political sciences, head of the social research center and member of the board of the ngo intellect of sumy region was with us, now it's eight o'clock on the clock, which means we're watching. fresh news from kateryna shiropoyas. katya, congratulations, you have a word. greetings, colleagues, in a moment i will tell you about the consequences of the night shelling of ukraine and the training conducted by british military surgeons for colleagues from ukraine.