ukraine for the third time in a row, this has never happened before, but god forbid, i have a question now, yes, because we had a fly-in here, i can’t hear very well, this is a question, i just don’t know how safe it is to continue with you conversation, so that we don't expose you to this, you are all fine, but can ukraine get a third time now, let's say this story again, and it seems to me that this year we don't... should even think about, well, if there will be, okay, this should be the attitude, it is not necessary, as before, you know, as a person even before full-scale , which was held at the eurovision song contest, he was given the flag of ukraine in his hands , as if the entire fate of ukraine, the long-suffering fate of the ukrainian people , depends on him. we can... deliver the right

things that our country needs now ideologically, culturally, all these points in order to bring our victory closer, but for this we need to send people there, we don’t need to think, whether they will take first place or tenth, the main thing is that they are remembered, that they are remembered for what they will show on this stage, what narratives will be given in the press, that's my opinion, and will it win... in general it can be anything , you know, the bookies are already betting on us, they still, you know, indicatively, they didn't know who was from ukraine, they already predicted the highest place, that is , eurovision is also a systemic history , a political history, i emphasize that , on this, because the eurovision organizers always say that it is not a political contest, for our country, and especially the last two years, this is definitely a political contest, and what two, since the 14th year, for 10 years, this is a political contest, and we, and we need to relate to it. to the political contest

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already told you, oleksandr yabchanka, senior lieutenant, a soldier of company honor of the first separate mechanized battalion of volka davinshi will be with us, we will talk to him, just a little bit of a connection. unstable , so from time to time he rips it off our airwaves, let me know if we can already, yes, now mr. oleksandr will try to rearrange, a little bit of news, today mariano bezula, you just mentioned her, a people's deputy, known for her scandalous statements, in particular criticism to mr. zaluzhny, general zaluzhny, they can, can today be excluded from... her defense committee on the issue of security, this is not the first attempt, but iryna gerashchenko, a deputy from the european union, wrote about it of solidarity, that this issue was raised again at the meeting, it means that, meanwhile, bezugla herself wrote in a telegram that in a telegram, that she

is asking to be expelled from the servant of the people faction, something is happening there, it is not clear what else. .. one thing that everyone is already talking about, we have already mentioned the eurovision here, and the fact that maryana bezugla cannot calm down, she is always triggered by a bad person and she writes about him all the time, and what mar writes "she is crazy about the industrious later with... is a reality, a special operation, which now they are discussing the special operation of the representatives of the security service of ukraine, who were looking for people, people, that is, they were watching the employees, journalists, investigators of bigus-info, and actually the investigation of journalists of bigus-info about how they were watched by the sbushniks and... very interesting , because they investigated everything like this, better than the sbu officers themselves investigated them, so they established what

was going on, for example, journalist bohdan kutepov wrote based on the motives, after watching this bigus-info investigation about the work of the sbu employees, who began to monitor by journalists, although they were supposed to take care of the security of the state, but 30 of those people were involved, a huge special operation, watched in the rooms, rooms... of the hotel complex where bigusinfo journalists came to conduct such a small, not even corporate event, they had some training there, yes the journalist bohdan kutyepov wrote in earnest about the fact that not only should malyuk, the head of the security service of ukraine, resign, but in principle we should get to those customers, and he mentioned yermak's last name there, and this post literally hung on bohdan kutipov's page peaks half an hour later , the facebook administration took down this post, because it seems that there is

hate speech there, it can offend, offend members of the community, yes, well, i am also the deputy head of the ukrainian editor-in-chief of ukrainian pravda, a well-known ukrainian publication whose founder was heorhiia gangadze, yevhen bodoratskyi wrote that here for understanding, actually, who was watching, it is the sbu department, it is the one that is called correctly. the department of the security service of ukraine, what is it, how is it called correctly, now there is a very long , very long name for the protection of statehood, yes, but dznd, dznd, yes, but in fact, he writes that this dznd was created in 1992, 1900, the department for the protection of national statehood, on the basis of the fifth department of the kgb of the ukrainian ukrainian ssr. that is, what do you understand? the fifth department of the kgb was a structural unit that was created back in 1967 in order to monitor dissidents, i.e.

anti-soviets, anyone who had a dissenting opinion. oleksandr yavchanko, a senior lieutenant, a soldier of honor company of the first separate mechanized battalion of vovka davinshi, is already joining us. mr. alexander, welcome you glory to ukraine. mr. oleksandr, have you had time to review this investigation, it has been going on for about an hour. i understand that it is precious. time, have you read about even about this investigation? well, of course, of course, i was, of course, i expressed my support to the journalists, of course, this is unacceptable, and i will say from myself, as a person who fights for a democratic state, i fight for a democratic ukraine, in a democratic ukraine it is unacceptable to commit... undemocratic practices, even for some ephemeral purpose,

because the purpose is really ephemeral, sorry, well there is no reason, not a single valid reason that could be, well, even, to be honest, you know, it was a shame to read the response from the security service, because i know the soldiers of the security service of ukraine, they are people who perform their duties very well work, these are people who professionally perform their work, well, such actions discredit the entire service, i am very sorry, because the actual topic of our inclusion, your question was about the reset of the government, then in my opinion... reset is not so about personalities

as for rules and procedures, and there is no explanation in the rules and procedures of a democratic country why this should happen, why special services should follow journalists. so, returning to the actual topic of our conversation, and i have experience with the reset rule. procedures, i am talking about the reform of the health care system, and today, other principles of management and financing of the system and... even with a change in the management of the system, even after ulyana suprun has already ceased to be the head of the ministry of health, the rules and the procedures continue to work, this is my main message regarding, this is my main answer to

your question, and it also applies to the investigation that... you know, our mutual acquaintance, i'm sure, valery pekar wrote that in this to the whole story , in addition to supporting journalists, it is also necessary to understand that our energy, as he wrote, should be directed towards understanding who the customers of this story are, because it is unlikely that it is the former fifth department of the kgb, well, we can say that , that there is a burden, people are somehow there and so further, well, less with the fact that people themselves took on thirty, thirty people, so much time, for such money. followed those journalists , it is obvious that there was, yes, such an order was given , which they carried out, and the baker says that you should look for those customers not on volodymyrskaya, but on banka, well, what our colleague kutepov wrote about, whose post half an hour ago banned facebook because he mentioned yermak's last name there, but what you say is that we have our own yermak under each president, under

zelensky this is the yermak we now have we see, but even under yushchenko, who seemed to be very democratic... the president still had his own baloga at some stage, that is, it arises, which means that the problem is not in the personnel, as really, but only in the character it depends on how bad that baloga or yermak will be, better, worse, for some it is medvedchuk, for some it is baloga, kostya yermak, but, but he still appears, which means that something is wrong with the state system itself, with the separation of powers, with the institution of the presidency, let me start after all with the fact that we have so... in us the right to vote, in other words, the power that we have, we choose it ourselves, well, the truth is that there was an attempt to break this procedure by yanukovych back in 2003, do you remember how the maidan started then, and accordingly, we defended that procedure , and we are very well done that we have that

tool, i.e. to choose the government ourselves, preserved, the problems begin further, because we, choosing the government, once again, do not analyze what rules and procedures this government offers in its pre-election promises, we choose a good guy, we already had that, and this one it happened to us more than once, with the same yushchenko, and with the same poroshenko, with today's president, we really choose the person we like. and this, well, this is where things start to go wrong, because in my opinion, to your question once in an interview, do i expect a new quality of politicians after the war, and i expect a new quality of the voter after the war, that is,

why am i leading all this, of course, to criticize the government. fine, but before that we need to be more careful about the choice and choose not good slogans, indeed all these politicians who people liked them, they said very good slogans, but there were no procedures and rules, in particular, this applies to the situation we are talking about now, because in no... procedure there is no influence, for example, the office of the president, the office, i i mean the people who work there, there is a procedure for the influence of the president, the interaction of the president with the parliament, the president with the executive branch of power, that's all there is, but how should the office

of the president influence the branch of power, the parliament or the branch. authorities of the security service of ukraine, that's it it is not in the procedures, and if it is not in the procedures, then it would be very good for us, when electing the authorities, to ask these questions and demand answers to these questions from the candidates, and then, when the candidate has already become, received the powers, i emphasize the powers delegated by us, then already to demand from the one... who received the authority under the promise of specific procedures and rules to observe these rules and procedures, and this applies to... all authorities, this applies, in particular, to the army, summarizing what has been said, we

put too much hope on personalities, of course, personalities are important, no doubt, because these rules of procedure have to be followed by specific people, but still we need to put more emphasis on how it will work. and not on someone who will work in one or another position. mr. oleksandr, what you said is whether ukrainians, citizens of ukraine who voted in 2019, should ask the president of ukraine, with the help of journalists, the media, mediators between people and the government, ukrainian journalists, specifically ukrainian, to the president, what is happening with by these rumors that are thrown out, which... what then the president confirms, for example, to italian journalists that he wants a reset of the government, why now they want to remove the currency, the scumbag, for example

, what is happening at the front, well, the citizens have a right, well without a doubt, this is not just a right of citizens, it is a duty of citizens, and here it is also very important, not only those citizens who have elected have the right and duty to do this. precisely president zelenskyi, because president zelenskyi is the president of all citizens of ukraine, that is how democracy is organized, that is the majority elected this president, he becomes the president of the entire country, therefore, in principle , this is a conversation about whether it is not my president, whether i didn't elect that parliament, or i voted for the wrong one, well, i'm sorry, it doesn't work like that if a democratic republic , then this is your parliament , in which your majority, if even you... voted for the minority, and your duty, well, not just the right, the duty to ask questions, well, of course, first of all to

the deputy whom you delegated , here, here, after all, your responsibility is a little more, rather than someone who voted for another deputy, i mean that the voters are specific people's deputies against whom the voter has complaints. and in connection with the hype, for example, the biggest question should still be asked by those who gave power to this deputy, that is, his voters, but without a doubt, everyone has the right and even the duty to ask questions to the verkhovna rada and the president citizen of ukraine. we have a moment, whether the president has the duty to answer his citizens not through foreign journalists, but to communicate and communicate. and explain some of his own, it is easier for him to go to work, well, than to go to a press conference with independent media, well, obviously, well, listen, in my opinion,

in my opinion, of course there should be a direct dialogue, this is my opinion, i will not tell you here in the legal rules and procedures, it would be good to ask the lawyers where it is written what the president has or does not have, if it is not written, let's agree, let's write what i am leading to. opinion, should it be so, does it violate the existing rules of procedure, well, i do not have that much legal competence or answer to this question. mr. oleksandr, thank you for the conversation, we wish you a peaceful day, thank you for joining us and finding a good internet, it was oleksandr yapchanka, i think we will talk with him more than once on our airwaves, a senior lieutenant fighter of company honor, the first of velka da vinci's separate mechanized battalion, thank you to our viewers who were with us, thank you for those +22 sia. which were added to our account today, you still have a whole day ahead of you and you can still add, add your donations to these accounts, you can eventually find not only during our

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