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or the fact that all these journalists , they are drug addicts, you should not trust them, understanding how much trust was in george, what trust was in the versions, and they are no longer among these versions, thank you, mr. yaroslav, for the conversation, it was yaroslav yurchyshyn, people's deputy of ukraine , chairman of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us there, please do not forget to put like it, it promotes. our video in youtube and facebook trends, and of course , take part in our vote, today we are asking you about whether you support zelensky's idea of ​​restarting the government, yes, no, if you watch us on youtube, everything is quite simple, either yes or no, and accordingly, write a comment if you have a different opinion, if you watch us on tv, if you understand what it is about, which reboot of zelensky’s power, 0800-211-381, no, 0821 382, ​​all calls to these
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numbers are free of charge, my colleague tetyana nikolayenko, a journalist, will be in touch with us further, member of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense of ukraine. tatyana, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. you know, we are with yaroslav yurchysh, i don't know if you have heard what we talked about about bigusinfo, and this is the whole story, i think that you definitely understand all the nuances of the work of bigusinfo, and how about. .. journalists, investigators are working, but i still can’t understand whether this department for the supervision of national statehood is so weak in our country, or whether ours is so strong journalists, what did they so easily take and put on the shelves of these sbu employees, how do you look at this case and do you understand who is the customer of this? a big case
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in which three dozen people were involved , maybe even more, these are the three dozen who got into bigus's film, i think there are probably a dozen more who are sitting on the bank street, and yes, well, actually, probably the main thing in this story, who actually is its customer, because we remember that this story hastily spilled out into some telegram cesspool, an incomprehensible website narodna. something is true here such, and from here it already looked like a certain order against journalists, investigators, it quite organically also fit into the policy, information, which unfolded around journalists, when the same anonymous telegram channels again began to be sorted out for some reason sivgil musaeva's things and running into other journalists there, this happened alongside... with the pasting
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of yuri nikolov's door, which he evaded, that is, it was such a part of the company to discredit journalists, and the fact that the beagles worked so well and, well, it's just ungodly laid out the relevant department of the security service of ukraine, it is simply an honor and we praise, probably the best detective this year could be awarded an oscar, an oscar would be awarded, but unfortunately, the situation is very deplorable in the sense that, well, we are returning to some kind of year 2002 and the dark ones. or 2013, such an era of ukrainian wrongdoing, if anyone still remembers, yes, when they again tried to intimidate and discredit journalists in every possible way, and the fact that this is happening in the second year of a full-scale invasion, when instead of actually catching saboteurs, protect the state, investigate crimes corrupt officials, but to check how things are going with them there. law enforcement officers
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spent their time monitoring journalists who, well, excuse me, we are not talking about the drug cartel in bigus, which manufactured and distributed drugs, and even if someone used something there, these are completely different articles of the criminal code and completely different investigation, therefore this is a very deplorable situation, it is not for nothing that it caused such a feedback from the ambassadors of the european union countries. and there was a meeting with a kid, i think it's not accidental, so it's a very bad signal for our authorities, and unfortunately it another discrediting of ukraine in general in the context of receiving international aid , which we now really, really need, well, we see this photo, today the kid met, the head of the security service of ukraine met with the ambassadors of the big seven, although officially they talked about what he was talking about there ... about the successes of the security service of ukraine
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during the large-scale invasion, in fact, one of the main issues is the surveillance of journalists and why it all happened. the kid talked about the fact that the head of the department they dismissed the defense of national statehood of the sbu, but i suggest now to listen to denys bigus, who explains and actually draws his conclusions about what the sbu did around journalists and around his team. the very fact of this surveillance, the very fact of these cameras in bedrooms is a transition to a fundamentally new level, the level of rotten russian. traditions, and if in order for such a thing not to be repeated in the next 10 years, a reaction from society is needed, or for the national police, which also opened an investigation, to be arrested by the dzndu department in full, or even buy capitol jacket, it must be
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done, because nothing threatens the national statehood of ukraine more than rotten russian traditions. denis went a little too far, because when he talked about rotten russian traditions, they are definitely such rotten ukrainian ones, they are rather rotten soviet traditions that remained in the security service of ukraine, and for 20-30 years we observed this rottenness, when one after another watched, someone published some compromising material, some recordings appeared, video recordings of journalists, sound files appeared, now the office of the prosecutor general'. suddenly decided to take to the sbu the case against the investigation of his own department in the sbu, and the sbu is oleg tatarov, tetyana again , or whatever, well, that is, they again came out on those from where they came, as they say, the main thing is not to come out on
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themselves in the investigation, i think it's the same case, and i think it's not for nothing that we mention there certain characters in the office of the president. because we understand that the bigusy filmed more than one plot, which included oleg tatarov, and it is unlikely that the the security services were so interested in studying, even with such a subcontractor of work, even if it is the best journalistic investigative team, well, honestly, i would definitely say again that the risks of... drug addiction or the distribution of drugs was clearly exaggerated, so it was obviously a political manipulation and now we have to figure out who was involved, i think unfortunately we won't know unless someone just
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comes out with an incriminating statement, a- ah, but i believe in it very little, so we will limit ourselves to that most likely by what we will know. this untimely igor, we will poke our fingers at him, but really we will most likely not find out who ordered this such a ghetto affair, at least under this government, and that is why i would like, it is really good, that criminal proceedings have been initiated, well, they will be somewhat hindered by all sorts of red tape , but of course we would like to have independent law enforcement officers who would investigate real crimes. and not what they will be ordered to do, because for example, when i look at how the national police investigated the case for six months of the lviv arsenal , i really want to cry, and because the journalists actually did to investigate this case, again, much more than the law enforcement agencies did, well, by the way, i should
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be looking for real criminals who threaten national security, and not because at night, i wanted to ask about li liev, precisely about the lviv arsenal, he... passed the polygraph twice, in my opinion, and well, that was also a funny story with this polygraph, because out of seven questions he, only one in it was caused by difficulties, whether he received the instruction to conclude a contract with the lviv arsenal from the heads of the ministry of defense, we have seen these demonstration performances with the polygraph more than once, and dubinsky passed the polygraph there, and arakhamia in the 19th year, do you remember this story about.
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profanation, when a person knows in advance the questions that will be put to him, then of course he is ready to answer them and has already come up with this version in his head. liev justifies himself more than once. although even as someone who has been researching this topic there for over six months, i'm not sure that it was liev who submitted an application to the national police regarding the lviv arsenal, and these letters, which are internal correspondence, and rather to the tax authorities, that this is already a swindle, they appealed to the court and to the law enforcement agencies for slander, and since this contract was signed, it is obvious , which, of course, i don't know if this was an instruction to open again... a contract with a company like
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lviv arsenal, having an intermediary who did not fall out of the previous contract and not having a second license from the country of the manufacturer, and it was too risky, which means , or was motivation to earn well, we know that literally at the first. of money, 4 million euros were withdrawn in cash, so, unfortunately, this is a story about the fact that the law enforcement officers did not do their job properly, well, that is, we can wait for some verdict on this case, or it will sink again, liev will walk endlessly on these polygraphs and say that he is not guilty of anything. and it is not at all clear who zbitniev is, zbitniev is probably sitting abroad, i think so, it is not, zbitniev
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is here, he even has house arrests, khorshaev, most likely abroad, i think that now this case will be handed over to the nabu, and you can imagine the state of the detectives, who will have to go to some kind of appeal and now prove the guilt of oliyev or zbitnev with very contradictory collected evidence, well, i honestly don't see it, that's why i think it's sad. this case is waiting for anatoly, thank you tetyana, it was tetyana nikolayenko, my colleague, journalist and member of the public anti-corruption council of the ministry of defense of ukraine. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are now watching live there, please like this video so it can trend on youtube and facebook, and vote in our poll. and today we ask you about the following: do you support zelensky's idea of ​​restarting the government,
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yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if yes, then yes, no, then no, if you have your own opinion, please write a comment under this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote, if yes, then 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. volodymyr tsybulko, a political analyst and people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, will be on our air next. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. today, russia again struck a big blow against the ukrainian capital, the enemy launched a combined air strike against ukraine, and these were 29 cruise missiles, kh-101, kh5 555 x55 and shaheda. most of them
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were shot down, but some of them fell into pieces kyiv high-rise buildings, for one kyiv high-rise building. and, unfortunately, four people died, about 40 were injured. in kharkiv, s300 rockets damaged the building of the enterprise, and three workers were injured. in mykolaiv, one person died, there are wounded , damaged residential buildings and... as reported by our armed forces of ukraine, kiev was hit by an experimental hypersonic missile, tserkon, and accordingly , markings were noticed on one of the wreckage , the spokesman of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine yuriy ignat noted , that experts currently are investigating the wreckage of rockets. first , examinations will be made, and then it will be possible to say what types of missiles the enemy used today. we will probably listen to what yuriy ignatov said. a lot of actual
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materials are already included now, that other types of missiles are used, which the air force does not say about yet, we are talking about those targets that could potentially be, these are s300, x22, iskander m, in fact, this is what flies around ballistics, that's why everything that appears somewhere on the ground, more specialists should talk about it, it's explosives national of the police is an institute of forensic examinations, which will determine what kind of wreckage it is and where it came from, from which possible country, if it really is of a different origin, and will provide... this, document it, fix everything and provide it for further actions in certain bodies. mr. volodymyr, why is there such massive terror on the part of the russians, peaceful cities of ukraine, well, relatively peaceful, why does it not cause a certain reaction and a corresponding reaction in the west, that is, if they
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are not already reacting with some kind of statements, well, at least at least they could make more. weapons, more ammunition, and not to think about how it will be perceived by the russian federation, and what, what will the ukrainians do with these weapons, whether they will hit the territory of russia or not? well, first of all, this attack on kyiv is especially annoying and it is abusive in its nature, because at this time josep borel, the commissioner for international affairs and security policy of the european union, is in kyiv. that is, for putin, who hates brussels structures and generally hates european politicians, this is a special moment for him in order to emphatically mock, as you know, joseph borel met the morning of today, this morning, in the shelter in the bomb shelter,
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he repeated the feat with this feat. mayor, and it seems to me that, well, joseph borel was already inconsistent in terms of supporting ukraine, but now he will have a special person against russia, so it can be said that putin has achieved his goal. here, the most interesting thing, i think, is that putin still wanted to take revenge on the europeans in terms of the fact that now nato is deploying huge exercises of such, well equal. of soviet times and with the same legend, and for putin this is a special humiliation, that is why he vilifies her in a small way around the perimeter of the european union, and to vilify ukraine is a special pleasure for him, i wonder if he will visit
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ukraine, that is, the occupied donbas within the framework of his pseudo-election campaign, but to me it is very... a pity that the ukrainian authorities do not appreciate the possibility that russia is conducting its pseudo-election campaign in the occupied territories, and the ukrainian authorities do not react to it in any way, this may in fact be an element recognition of the occupied territories by russia, that's what the problem is. well, the authorities are not doing one more moment, they are not talking about it now, but it is necessary to say that if... in these territories, russia elects putin, then putin will be the self-proclaimed president of the russian federation, that is, the equal sign between the self-proclaimed president lukashenka and putin can be held, because everyone , mr. serhiy, it is necessary to talk about it every day, now the situation is international, and
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ukraine must remind the community about that putin is illegitimate after march 17. this is what the situation is, and today's strike, i think, is a good way to remind joseph boredu about the need to not recognize the results of the elections in russia, pseudo-elections. well, with corresponding consequences for putin. meanwhile, the house of representatives of the congress of the united states of america rejected the bill of the republicans, which provided for the provision of aid to israel in the amount of 17 billion. 600 million dollars separately from ukraine, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that the package of laws on immigration and international aid, in particular to ukraine, will not become law due to the opposition of the speaker of the house of representatives, mike johnson , and concerns among republicans in the senate, yesterday joe biden publicly appealed to congress and asked to support
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a bill to support ukraine as soon as possible and send it to him. bill for signature, calling donald trump the main problem of providing aid to ukraine. let's hear what biden said. if you look at the republicans, who do they serve, donald trump or the american people. they want to solve problems or use them as weapons for political purposes. a month ago , republicans asked for such a bill that would reform migration reform. mr. vladimir, putin probably did not expect that before the end of the presidential campaign in the united states of america, trump and the republicans would
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play along with him so effectively, because in fact, even before the new president of the united states of america is determined, there is still almost a year before his inauguration, but now it is already , already in february we see that lack of this help. from the americans puts us in an awkward position on the russian-ukrainian front, and this is trump's constant flirting with putin, trying to say that i will agree with him on everything, putin is good, and here is the visit of one of the tv presenters who are closest to him , conspiracy theorists, so kara carlson to moscow and the fact that he interviewed putin, that is , the impression that trump... had already made up his mind, and he made up his mind, bet on putin, and putin bet on trump, and they started in february 204 already do certain
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steps to force ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table, well, this is a very interesting situation, it seems to me that trump sent tucker carlson to moscow in order to create the illusion that putin is not in global isolation. because putin is really isolated from the world, he is in contact only with authoritarian leaders, that is, ancient meetings with lukashenko, lukashenko, this is his special, special joy on the international arena, but what is the problem, tucker carson is not just a journalist, he is also one of the candidates for the position vice president in the new scenario. and donald trump's return to power in the white house, so this is a special moment, and the fact that
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tucker carson does not look back at potential sanctions, for example, from the european union, means that, well, trump does come out, enters into a tough conflict with the european union. let me remind you that at one time trump expressed himself. about the withdrawal of the united states from nato, so recently, in recent months, we have been observing an extraordinary mobilization of the european union in terms of the formation of a single market for military-industrial products, and in fact , the european union is even approaching the idea of ​​forming of the unified armed forces of the european union, the security architecture of the european union is impossible without ukraine, and this... by the way, creates a special chance for ukraine, if we had a more qualified government, it would of course, on the contrary, catch trump and now it would be
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very, very active enlisted the support of the european union. but against this background, according to analysts of the american institute for the study of war, the kremlin is intensifying the rhetoric of the hypothetical division of ukraine in order to normalize this narrative in western discussions about because that's how they comment on a tweet deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation dmitry medvedev, what medvedev said: the planned global railway from spain through southern europe should end in lviv. it seems that this is the first confirmation that lviv-lemberkh will be the new capital of ukraine within the lviv region, and the point here is not that the tracks in the west and in ukraine differ in width, it's just a matter of fact. much more insightful than politicians, that is, they present as a fait accompli that ukraine can repeat the fate
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of korea when there is a rooster, well, relatively speaking, eastern-southern ukraine and there will be central -western ukraine, that is, this division, they want to accustom everyone to the fact that this division will be, mr. serhiy, everyone is modern. well, the authoritarian leaders of our time were guided by the formula: hitler didn't succeed, but i will succeed, well, they end up like hitler, what saddam hussein ended up with, what milosevic ended up with, that's right, the history of yugoslavia is like this, well, a promotion for the russian federation , get ready to repeat your fate, if you fall into the heresy of fascism, you will end up like milošovych, well... i decided to experiment and prove to the world that hitler did not succeed, he will succeed, he will not succeed, he will not succeed, but
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look, we see. the movement of nato troops for exercises, large exercises, small exercises , which have recently been 9,000 personnel, there are planes, ships, well, in short, everything is the most modern that is in the north atlantic alliance, and we see that nato makes it clear to russia , that in case of provocation against nato member countries, the north atlantic alliance will give guidance. worthy answer for putin, in your opinion, will putin dare to that is, to test the power of nato on its army, and in some way to demonstrate that it can go to battle, including against the north atlantic alliance. well, we recall how putin blackmailed both poland and romania, because drones and missiles were falling on the territory of poland and romania, and for...
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nato, in principle, this was not a reason to start negotiations within the framework of the fourth point, not to mention the fifth point, and in this sense, putin allegedly felt, so to speak, touched, felt the temperature of nato, but he did not expect that nato would return to these large system exercises of the soviet level. and these exercises, they are more than preschool for russia, because as part of these exercises, in fact, for many months during the exercise period, complete trade, that is, commercial shipping within the baltic sea, exit from the gulf of finland, which and so it is controlled by estonia, finland, basically
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ee... this is a special nervousness for russia, because russia can now be closed, due to these exercises in the gulf of finland, and blocked all ports for commercial activity, as the ukrainian special services did, by the way , by blowing up the oil refinery in ustluza and stopping part of the export of products through the port of sluzhno in the baltic, that is, in the south. the active activity of the ukrainian troops in the black sea also creates a precedent, when it is possible to block commercial shipping for e black sea ports at any time, and russia panics because of this, er, any, well , any insolent er, er, er, er , as they say, from the side of moscow, can surrender to moscow, complete closure of commercial shipping
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for... russia in the baltic and black sea regions. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, it was volodymyr tsybulko, a political expert. friends, we continue to work in the tv channel on the air of the tv channel, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook, and we continue to conduct surveys. we are asking you today whether you support zelenskyi's idea of ​​restarting the government. let's look at the interim results of the survey, 18% yes. 82% no, on youtube we have a ratio of 22% yes, that is 78% support the reset of power from zelensky, no, we will continue this poll in the second part of our program, which will start 15 minutes after the news release from our bbc colleagues, we will have oleg sahakyan, maksym rozumny and
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oleksiy holobutsky as guests, we will talk about everything . it will be interesting, don't switch, stay with us. mobilization, what will change, who will serve, we analyze in today's edition of the bbc. military relatives demand to replace them at the front with fresh forces and whether there will be demobilization, what about the new draft law military analysts think. ukrainian troops need people,
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experts say about it, he insists on it. military command. it is a personnel problem.

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