tv [untitled] February 7, 2024 9:30pm-10:00pm EET
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there is a rate of the supreme commander, it is not in non-wartime, there is an increased role of the president , a fraction of the supreme commander, all this is absolutely understandable, although it may be unacceptable for some , we can argue with some, we can give arguments for and against, but the government needs to return a greater subjectivity, just as in this case we see that the parliament also faces an increasing number of complex, ambiguous issues and challenges, and the parliament should not... but have a greater level of subjectivity and autonomy, at least to be a lightning rod to all authorities, and this did not happen completely throughout the state, but as a maximum and in order to produce better decisions, to respond better and faster, more dynamically to public opinion, sensing and depending on it, because the deputies will already, as they say, be beaten mandate , and they know it very well, accordingly, in these conditions, when we talk about a reset, we need to where... where
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to concentrate the powers that were informally concentrated during the war in several institutions and to several surnames, not absolutely, but gradually, and that's it, on unfortunately, it is not visible at the moment, then i would talk about the names of these five or six managers, and in what section and in what form they can still be useful, effective, or even more effective, or on the contrary, they should be replaced or simply go on vacation? has its own version regarding a possible reperez'. download from petro poroshenko, let's listen to what he said from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, addressing zelenskyi. i would like to support zelenskyi's initiative, the initiative to reset the government, and here we are definitely not talking about laputina, because in two weeks, the tenth anniversary of the execution of the heavenly hundred. and for the sake of the memory of the first
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victims of russian aggression, all state institutions , first of all, the president's office, should be cleared of the unillustrated underdogs of yanukovych's team, the proteges of partnov, i am trembling at the fact that we will be congratulated on the anniversary of the heavenly hundred, here are those who are now also voice, dare. to like reshuffles are also necessary in the cabinet. until it is replaced by a technocratic government and i very much hope that this will be done through the formation of a government national unity. mr. maxim, a technocratic government and a government of national unity are two different concepts, because a government of national unity is , after all, a government to which political forces are delegated from their own. candidates, today we saw how
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the verkhovna rada of ukraine voted for the law on mobilization in the first reading and saw that zelenskyi and his team voted together with the revival of the future of the former opzh, although there is no former opzh, well mps from opzh, it was about the image of the majority in the imagination of those in the current government, what. is a government of national unity possible now, if not, then a technocratic government, and can the government of denys shmygal be considered exactly that technocratic government? in general, as a political scientist, i must say that the very option of the government of national unity, it is taken from a situation when there is a big split in the country, when there is a big confrontation. on an ideological basis, up to
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the point of civil conflict, in such situations the idea of a government of national unity arises, which should stop this confrontation, include the main, so to speak, these groups into power and thus reconcile the conflicting parties, today in ukraine we have the exact opposite situation, there is a big... it is probably not so clearly visible now, but there is a big consolidation on a patriotic basis, on a civic basis, and here the very idea the government of national unity is rather a euphemism used by the opposition in order, so to speak, to advance its agenda, its political agenda and its ideas and its wishes, as far as the technocrats are concerned. of the government,
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yes, according to the idea, according to the principle of formation, as it is happened, the government, the current government of prime minister shmegal. "he is similar to technocratic, that is, he was built according to the principle that, as they say , professionals get there, no one has heard of shmygal as a politician, as a strategist, a visionary who sees some idea in the development of the state, everyone knows that he is a man, which came to perform purely administrative functions, and it seems as if it is self-evident that he has the technical training for this , the qualifications, skills and so on, but such a technocratic government, people, so to speak, cog people, people who can perform the given function well, today it also does not completely correspond to the current situation,
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the current situation should be corresponded to a government of responsibility, a government of political responsibility, and here so to speak... talk about governments of some other, which, national unity, technocratic and all the others, they can, these conversations, they can only cover up either the unwillingness to take this political responsibility, or the actual lack of competences for this political responsibility, so i think that civil society and the expert community, should raise questions about the reboot. power on its part to the power, and precisely in the context of strengthening political responsibility, that is, as a colleague absolutely rightly said, give us a vision of how you are going to get out of those crisis situations that have arisen in the state today, what decisions you make, how you
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you understand everything and what tools you will use to do it, this is the government, you can call it anything, but the government on'. responsibility, i think it would be correct, mr. oleg, or does zelensky need it, because, judging by his rhetoric, he doesn't need it, because he has complaints against poroshenko, and tymoshenko, and other leaders, parliamentary forces that are, and obviously, obviously, he can take such a step if it threatens his... future or his future political prospects, he can say: well, i am ready to share the responsibility with other political forces, and together we will be responsible for what is happening in the country, for what is happening in the economy, for what is happening at the front, and
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to transfer this responsibility in this way, although from what he says, it is obvious that he still wants, wants to be president. of a country that will defeat the russian federation, and he aspires to it, and it is obviously connected with this, here are the discussions with the stalwart and with the vision of how it should be further on the front and in the army, whether zelensky is the type of psycho who is ready to share power? it is difficult for me to say about zelensky's psychotype, after all, i am not a psycho. a therapist or a psychiatrist in order to give some conclusion now, but mine opinion, sharing power is worthwhile when you are in a strong position, then you can really share responsibility, and then you set the rules of the game, and actually then you can include other subjects without fear for
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yourself, and this is an indicator of what you are ready to engage in politics and play a political struggle of a much higher level, to set the rules of the game, when the situation already smells fried, then at this moment it is precisely to create some consolidated forms of division of responsibility that is a song. at this moment, all other subjects feel blood and accordingly, no one will be included in such constructions, and if they do, it will be from the very beginning, so that the day after tomorrow they will play veiki and still eat a lame duck. politics is very tough in this regard, a very tough game and... with tough rules, so for zelensky, if you really want to take such a step, you need to go now, and it's good to go even earlier, i fully agree with mr. maksym about the government of national unity, the only thing i would add, or if society is going through its own crisis and everyone needs to be given the opportunity
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will be represented, or if it is permanent democracies, where there are, for example, two parties or two and a half so-called parties, and accordingly there is a government, governmental, powerful. and there are oppositions, structured by the world of power, always coming forward with their position, because the watershed is ideological or value-based, and then the government of national unity makes sense, because... in fact, it is formed for the consolidation of the nation that is represented. in our case, when the parliament is essentially a battery of anti-rating, then from the leaders of anti-rating, as deputies in general, the offense it is difficult to create a government of national unity. shmyhal is definitely not about a government of technocrats, it is a government about techno-executives, because technocracy implies the very greek word, kratia, kratus, it is management, the state, it implies that they have power. this government has no power. they only perform, but it is necessary to return subjectivity there, in this case
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, both political forces and other non-governmental subjects can become a source of legitimacy for those who will be delegated to the government, or from where they will be taken, or in their own name. yam, or relying on the name and support of a certain political force, it doesn't matter where it comes from , the main thing is that these people are professionals and have a sufficient level of legitimacy in society, but such people will need more. subjectivity, because they will want to make decisions, they will be ready to risk their reputation only when they can implement something, and under other circumstances they simply will not go there, so today it is not a question of inviting everyone to the table and saying, let's live amicably and let's sit down to work together, that's the question that we need to make a certain proposal , what we are doing, why we are consolidating, for what tasks, and then we can choose from a wide range of precedents that the world gives us... there is definitely no
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need to be ashamed here either, but the question of what is needed put outside the mare, not the other way around. well, you mentioned the ratings, about how politicians, well, are now trying to gauge their prospects there, i think president zelenskyi's team is doing that. but there aren't even any questions here, because they live like people from television, a we television people live from day to day and look at the ratings that we had on tv viewing the previous day, so i , in principle, understand how zelensky's team lives, they probably live the same way, but the razumkov social research foundation says that the rating confidence in president zelensky has decreased somewhat over the last month, in january it was... 59% against 71% in december, well, it is not such a catastrophic drop, but
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still a decrease, mr. maksym, very short, if possible, what could it be be related to the fact that confidence in zelensky has fallen by 2%. well, to be very brief, you just need to understand why it was high, it was high because ukraine, after all , began to resist the attack, but this is no longer news, then it was high because ukraine could win in certain dimensions the enemy, to date the front has stabilized, and there is, so to speak, the question of how the situation will develop further, and the rating grew, and the rating was high, because... people's eyes were, so to speak, turned away from the political kitchen, this is the situation today
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has also changed, everyone is looking at personnel appointments under a microscope, everyone is watching the zelenskyi conflict, in this situation, all the weaknesses, and they are obvious, of the current government and president zelenskyi, they are becoming more visible, more obvious, more relevant, therefore the criticality of perception and ... and the president himself and the government itself, it is growing. thank you, mr. maxim. gentlemen, let's take a short break. we will return to our studio in just a few minutes. there are discounts on petal one plus, 10% in pharmacies, plantain, memory card savings stiffness in the joints and spine, osteochondrosis, gout, radiculitis, arthritis and arthrosis. with all these... problems , the means for external use of decrasin will come in handy. consultation by phone 0800 215
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we ask you about this, do you support it zelensky's idea of rebooting the government is quite simple on youtube. yes no, if you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you support zelensky's idea of a reboot: 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program , we will sum up the results of this vote. let me remind you that maksym rozumny and oleg saakean are our guests today, we are talking about the re-enlistment. first of all, the authorities, and secondly, let's talk, gentlemen, about what can to prevent the reboot, or what is preventing president zelensky, which affects the perception of him by ukrainians, the story that is literally unfolding before our eyes is the story of biguz, biguz gate, i.e. surveillance,
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illegal surveillance, eavesdropping of our colleagues from biguus company. denis bigus said that, in principle, they in the security service of ukraine should answer for this surveillance, there were 30 people watching over the bigus, who were in some complex resting and conducting training, and actually the head of the security service of ukraine said that everyone has already been punished, the head of the department has been punished. but we didn’t wait for the answer, actually , why were they following the journalists, because there are many mysteries in this story, and the most important mystery is why these sbu employees behaved like fools, because from bigus’s film it looks like they are some the special agents who simply did not hide behind
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the surveillance of bigus's company, and bigus, well... in principle, it was not a big problem, just to take and put everything on the shelves. mr. oleg, what do you think about this story? and can it be the one that will determine the political fate of the same zelenskyi? i think that it will definitely hit the authorities now, but i don't think that it will resonate very much, because after all the war situation, it mitigates such things, especially since... the reputation of the security service of ukraine is currently quite at a high level, which actually caused even more disturbance in society, because if it had happened during yanukovych's time or the beginning. monthly conditional, then it is clear that it was that ugly, but reality and norm of life, then at the moment this is a big exception from the security service, which literally before our
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eyes revived itself in the eyes of ukrainian society and demonstrates high indicators in the fight against the enemy and from the exit, then of course it is extremely unfortunate to see such stories, really in this situation there are more questions than answers, even now, even after the investigation. on bigus, since, firstly, we do not understand who actually gave the political go-ahead for such recordings and filming and throwing out materials to discredit bigus-info, secondly, it is not clear whether this was to do, well, just to take and discredit the bigus in an empty place, well, it's like that, unclear motivation, too high risks, and actually, we don't know, maybe they were preparing something like that or they were planning some kind of materials. prepare, because of which it was actually provoked, this is the second question, the third, if these materials really came out because of the case with drugs, which looks extremely, well
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, to put it mildly, an unconvincing version, then the question is, maybe other services were involved, not only the security service, since the national police for example, in whose jurisdiction is this, this question has also not found its answers yet, the fourth question is to conduct such hidden filming? ah, recordings , listening to the fact that the measures require the permission of the prosecutor, we did not see or hear about it, moreover, we did not even hear part of these issues in the bigus film, which also suggests whether this was done on purpose knowingly or not, and accordingly, how many ubigos will really now keep their finger on the pulse in ensuring that everyone is necessary, at least minimally necessary answers, to hear from the leadership of the power bloc and from... the authorities, because it is clear that here the questions can continue up to a dozen in this direction, the fact that now the sbi, if i am not mistaken, will investigate this case precisely
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for the listening and recording of journalists , this is quite good information, it is another matter that we will see how far it will really move, and it will largely depend on the determination and consistency of bigusinfo representatives themselves, how much they will really keep this situation in focus, for all of us here.. what is important here is that ukrainian immunity worked, and it was nice to see how the journalists did their work well, it was very nice to see how the representatives of this complex, where the journalists were, contributed to such an investigation, not being afraid, not hiding, but fully helping to ensure the justice and transparency of the situation was reconstructed, well, actually, how they reacted in the ukrainian services also quite positively characterizes that we are very far... we have already moved away from the soviet legacy, and where we are faced with such soviet, post-soviet, practitioners, the system will lose to public
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attention and public pressure, well , as for the head of the dznd himself, the question still remains, he was fired because of the fact that actually such a shameful, such a shameful operation took place at all, that journalists were persecuted, filmed, or for the fact that during... the implementation of this operation, it was implemented so poorly that 30 plus agents were compromised during it, and then we look at all this as a tragicomedy and a caricature of the activities of the special services, comparing it with lovers russian towers in salisbury, because it is clear that such a performance of this operation harms the image of the ukrainian special services not only from the point of view of democracy, but also from the point of view of professionalism, and therefore it is possible that this release should have a... warlike nature, but then the question of what to do with all those violations that were allowed in the process, and this should also carry, let's say, should serve
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as a basis for additional responsibility of all involved persons. thank you, mr. oleg, mr. maksym, mr. oleg said that this is evidence that we have moved away from the soviet union, from these soviet practices, but this department... which actually monitored the race, this is the former administration, the fifth administration, the political security or whatever, how to call it correctly, p' the administration that was in the kgb, in the ssr, and then it was transformed, then it was reformed, then something else there, there is a separate administration that also deals with journalists, that is, there is the administration of the media, well , they deal with us there, but ? this testifies to the fact that both the sbu and the authorities still after all, this soviet psychology prevails, when you need journalists, you definitely need
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something. monitor them, look for something there, eavesdrop, then pour this video into some cistern, because i remember all the presidents, and under all the presidents , there was always something like that with journalists, which, some kind of compromising material, honadze, on unfortunately, he died because of all those tapes that were there in kuchma's office, or was he killed under these tapes or. uh, someone out there used those records to kill ours, unfortunately colleague, and it is also not clear, but this story was with almost everyone, how far have we moved away from the soviet union precisely in the relations between the authorities and journalists, and well , i would say that we have moved away , well, by some kind of criterion or indicator of how far we left
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there is the fact that this whole plot, today, well , if it is divided and considered according to classical genres, then it is more a comedy than a tragedy, and this is just an indicator, that is, the soviet system, it was distinguished by the fact that in she was afraid, and the current system, she more, well, it encourages us to consider what is funny about it, i.e. uh... actually in the dry residue we saw how the operators spend their leisure time there, i don't think that it is something very specific for the bigus company or for or for operators or in general, well, we saw these shots there, as it happens, and many took it with humor, but it shocked someone, but nevertheless we looked behind it. the rickety fence, which
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is now shown there and behind these walls of these houses, then we saw how the sbu works, we saw how these agents work, and this too, well, it caused more irony than, so to speak, fear of such an all-powerful special service, but another remark, what would i do here, i would not attribute this situation to... something of the post-soviet heritage or something else, a completely similar plot, i could it is easy to imagine in some hollywood film about the practices of the american special services there and so on, it seems to me that this is a fairly typical situation for modern society, and if we reduce it all to some post-soviet syndromes, then it will be a great
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simplification, and indeed... .i would express this an assumption, a hypothesis that came to my mind now, looking at it all, that all this can be connected with our previous topic, that is, i have very big doubts that the sbu is seriously engaged, among its priorities, puts surveillance behind bigus or journalists, in general, it seems to me that this is a sign of those seconds on the air, please? 10 seconds on the air, yes, it seems to me that someone from the government, some of its parts are the customers of this comedy, and the sbu became a victim as well as the bigus company, thank you, mr. maksym, maksym smart, oleg sahakyan were guests of our program today, during the program we conducted a survey, we asked you about whether you support zelensky's idea of restarting the government, 18%
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yes, 84% no, this is... the results of a television poll, this was a program verdict, serhiy rudenko conducted it, tomorrow at 20:00 we will have valery chaly, don't miss it, the broadcast will be interesting, goodbye, bleeding and inflammation yasen, my advice, lakal active. lakalut active actively overcomes bleeding ashes, protects against. parodamitis is noticeable pulls up yasna. lacquer active - an action that you feel immediately. novelty. lacquer active plus with two-phase technology and a plus of active ingredients. for even more active protection lacal aktiv++. there are discounts on power pairs of 20% in pharmacies plantain you and save. tingling, numbness or crawling of ants in the limbs occur.
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