as a minimum, to be a lightning rod for all authorities, and this was not completely throughout the state, but as a maximum and in order to produce better decisions, better and faster, react more dynamically to public opinion, feeling, depending on it, because the deputies already, that is to say, they will beat not according to the mandate, and they know it very well, accordingly, in these conditions, when we talk about a reset, we need to concentrate somewhere. powers informally concentrated during the war in several institutions and to several surnames, not absolutely, but gradually, and this , unfortunately, is not visible at the moment, then i would talk about the names of these five or six managers and in what section and in what form they can still be useful, effective, or even more effective, or on the contrary, they should have been replaced, or simply gone on vacation? petro poroshenko has his own version of a possible reboot, let's hear what... he

said from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, addressing zelenskyi. i would like to support zelenskyi's initiative, the initiative about the reset of the government, and here we are definitely not talking about laputina, because in two weeks the 10th anniversary of the execution of the heavenly hundred. and for the memory of the first victims of russian. aggression, all state institutions should be purged, first of all , the president's office from the under-illustrated underachievers of yanukovych's team, partnov's proteges, i am trembling at the fact that we will be congratulated on the anniversary of the heavenly hundred, here are those who now even dare to raise a voice, reshuffles are necessary . and in

the cabinet, until it is replaced by a technocratic government, and i really hope that it will be carried out by forming a government of national unity. mr. maxim, a technocratic government and a government of national unity are two different concepts, because the government of national unity is, after all, a government to which political forces delegate their nominees, which we are today. saw how the verkhovna rada of ukraine voted for the law on mobilization in the first reading and saw that zelenskyi and his team voted together with the revival for the future and the former opz, although there is no former opzh, well, mps from opzh, this was the prototype of this majority in ideas that are in the current government, is a government of national unity possible now?

if not, then a technocratic government, and can the government of denys shmygal be considered exactly that technocratic government? er, in general, as a political scientist, i must say that the very option of a government of national unity, it is taken from a situation when there is a great split in the country, when there is a great confrontation on ideological grounds, er... up to the point of civil conflict, that is in such situations, the idea of ​​a government of national unity arises, which should stop this confrontation, include the main ones, so to speak talk about these groups in power and thus reconcile the conflicting parties. today in ukraine we have the exact opposite situation, there is a big one, it is probably not the same now.

it is clearly visible, but there is a great consolidation on a patriotic basis, on a civic basis, and here the very idea of ​​the government of national unity is rather a euphemism used by the opposition in order, so to speak, to advance its own agenda, political and ideas and wishes. as for the technocratic government, yes, according to the idea, according to the principle of formation, as it happened, the government, the current government of prime minister shmyhal, is similar to a technocratic one, that is, it was built according to the principle that they say professionals get there, no one has heard of shmyhal as a politician, as a strategist, a visionary who sees an idea in the development of the state, everyone knows that this is... a person who came to

perform purely administrative functions, and it seems as if it is self-evident that he has the technical training, qualifications, skills and so on for this. but such a technocratic government of the people, so to speak, cogs people, people who can perform the given function well, today it also does not quite correspond to the current situation , the government of responsibility, the government of political responsibility should correspond to the current situation, and here, so to speak, talks about governments, some others. which, of national unity, technocratic and all the rest, they can, these conversations, they can only cover up either the unwillingness to take this political responsibility, or the actual lack of competences, for this political responsibility, so i think that

civil society and the expert community should ask the authorities about the reset of the power from their side. and precisely in the context of strengthening political responsibility, that is, as a colleague absolutely rightly said, give us a vision of how you are going to get out of those crisis situations that have arisen in the state today, what decisions you make, how you understand all this and what tools you will be to do this, this is the government, you can call it anything, but the government of national responsibility, i think it was right. mr. olezh, does zelensky need this, because, judging by his rhetoric, he does not need it, because he has complaints against poroshenko, tymoshenko, and other leaders, parliamentary forces that exist,

and it is obvious , obviously, he can take such a step if it will threaten his future, or the future. his political prospects, he can say: well, i am ready to share responsibility with other political forces, and together we will be responsible for what happens in the country, for what happens in the economy, for what is happening at the front, and to transfer this responsibility in this way, although from what he says, it is obvious that he still wants, wants to be the president of the country that will win. the russian federation, and he aspires to it, and it is obviously related to this, he is having discussions with the hard-working and with the vision of how things should be further on the front and in the army, is zelensky the type of psycho who is ready

to share power? it is difficult for me to say about zelensky's psychotype, after all, i am not a psychotherapist or a psychiatrist in order to give now some conclusion, but in my opinion, sharing power is worthwhile when you are in a strong position, then you can really share responsibility, and then you set the rules of the game, and actually then you can include other subjects without fear for yourself, and this is an indicator of the fact that you are ready to engage in politics and play a political struggle of a much higher level, to set the rules of the game, when the situation already smells fried, then at this very moment... to create some consolidated forms of division of responsibility, so what is this song. in this moment, all other subjects already feel the blood and, accordingly, no one will be included in such constructions, and if they do, it will be from the very beginning, in order to play vaikida the day after tomorrow and thus eat a lame duck.

politics is very tough in this respect, a very tough game with tough rules, so for zelensky, if... you really want to take such a step, you need to go now, and go well even earlier. i completely agree with mr. maxim about the government of national unity. the only thing i will add, or if society is going through its own crisis and it is necessary to give everyone the opportunity to be represented, or if it is a permanent democracy, where there are, for example, two parties, or 2.5, so-called parties, and accordingly there is a government, a powerful one, and there is also a structured world opposition. there are also ministers who are each engaged in their own direction, and on every proposal of the government, they always come up with their own position, because the watershed is ideological or value-based, and then the government of national unity makes sense, because in fact it is formed for the consolidation of the nation, which is represented , in our

in the case when the parliament is essentially a battery of anti-rating, then the government of national unity created the leaders of anti-rating as deputies in the general image. it's difficult shmyhal - it's definitely not about the government of technocrats, it's about the government about techno-executives, because technocracy implies the greek word itself, kratia, kratos, it's state management, it implies. that they have power, this government does not have power, they only execute, but subjectivity needs to be returned there, in this case , political forces and other non-governmental entities, can become a source of legitimacy for those who will be delegated to the government, or where they will be taken from, or by their name, or relying on the name and support of a certain political force, it doesn't matter where they come from, the main thing is that these people are professionals and had a sufficient level of legitimacy in society. but such people will need greater subjectivity, because they will want to make decisions, they

will be ready to risk their reputation only when they can implement something, and under other circumstances they simply will not go there, so on today it is not a question of inviting everyone to the table and saying, let's live in a friendly way and let's sit down to work together. it's a matter of putting a certain proposal, what we do, why we consolidate, for what task, and then you can choose from a wide range. precedents that world political history gives us, and even just sit down and fantasize and come up with your own ukrainian know-how, there is definitely no need to be ashamed here either, but the question is that you need to put the cart before the mare, and not the other way around, well you they mentioned ratings, about how politicians, well, now they are trying to measure their prospects there, i think that the team... of president zelenskyi does this regularly, there are no questions here, because they live like

television people, and we live as television people from day to day and we look at the ratings that we had on television the previous day, so i basically understand how zelenskyi’s team lives, they probably live the same way, but the razumkov social research foundation says that the rating of trust in president zelenskyi slightly decreased for the last in january, it was 69% against 71% in december, well, it is not such a catastrophic drop, but still there is a decrease, mr. maksym, very briefly, if possible, what could be connected with the fact that confidence in zelensky fell by 2%. well, to put it very briefly, you just need to understand why she was tall, she was tall. since ukraine nevertheless began to resist the attack,

but this is no longer news, then it was high, because ukraine could defeat the enemy in certain dimensions. to date, the front has stabilized and is so to speak, the question is how the situation will develop further, and the rating grew, and the rating was high. because people's eyes were, so to speak, turned away from the political kitchen, today this situation has also changed, everyone is looking at personnel appointments under a microscope, everyone is watching the zelenskyi conflict, hard-working, in this situation all the weaknesses, and they are obvious, of the current government and the president zelenskyi, they are becoming more visible, more obvious, more relevant, therefore... the criticality of the perception of the president himself and the government itself is growing.

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support zelensky's idea of ​​a reboot 0.800 211 381, no 0800. 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. let me remind you that today we have maksym rozumny and oleg sahakyan as our guests, we are talking about the reboot, first of all the authorities, and secondly, let's talk, gentlemen, about what can hinder the reboot, or what hinders president zelensky, what affects the perception of him by ukrainians . the story that is literally unfolding before our eyes is the story of running from the gate, i.e. surveillance, illegal surveillance, eavesdropping of our colleagues from the bigus-info company, denys bigus said about the fact that they, in principle, in the security service

of ukraine should answer for this surveillance, there were 30 people watching her... bigus who were in some complex, resting and conducting training, well, actually the head of the security service of ukraine said that that everyone has already been punished , the head of the department has been punished, but we did not wait for the answer, actually, why were they following the journalists, because there are many mysteries in this story, and the most important mystery is why... actually, these sbu employees behaved like nonsense, because it's from bigusa's movie it looks like these were some bad special agents who were simply not hiding behind the surveillance of bigus' company, and bigus, well, in principle, it was not a big problem to just take and put everything on the shelves. mr.

oleg, what do you think about this story, and could it be the one that... will determine the political fate of the same zelenskyi? i think that it will definitely hit the authorities now, but i don't think that it will resonate very much, because after all the war situation, it is softer, things like that, the same as the reputation of the security services of ukraine is currently at a sufficiently high level, which actually caused even more disturbance in society, because if this happened during yanukovych's time or the beginning of the 2000s, it would be conditional. it is clear that it was that ugly, but reality and norm of existence, but at the moment it is a big exception even from the security service, which was literally resuscitating itself before our eyes. in the eyes of ukrainian society and demonstrates high performance in the fight against the enemy and victory, then of course it is extremely unfortunate to see such stories. indeed,

in this situation there are more questions than answers, even now, even after the investigation of mr. bigus, since, first of all, we do not understand who actually gave the political go-ahead for - such recordings and filming and throwing out materials to discredit bigus-info. it is not clear , but was it possible to do this, well, just to take an empty seat and discredit the bigus, well, it’s like that, unclear motivation, too high risks, and actually, we don’t know, maybe they were preparing something like this, or they were planning some kind of materials cook, because of which it was actually provoked, this is the second question, the third, if these materials really came out because of the drug case, which looks extremely, well, to put it mildly, not. version, then other services may have been involved in the question, not only the security service, because the national police, for example, in whose jurisdiction is this, this question has also

not yet found its answer. the fourth question: in order to carry out such covert filming , wiretapping recordings, etc. , the permission of the prosecutor is required, we did not see or hear about it, moreover, we did not even hear some of these questions in the bigus film, which also suggests... whether this was done deliberately or not, and accordingly, how much the bigus will really have their hand on the pulse now in order to hear all the necessary, at least minimally necessary answers from the leadership of the power bloc and from the authorities , because it is clear that here the questions can continue to a dozen in this direction, the fact that now the sbi, if i am not mistaken, will investigate this case, precisely for the listening and recording of journalists, this is... quite good information, another matter, what let's see how much it will really move, and it will largely depend on the determination and consistency

of bigusinfo representatives themselves, how much they will really keep this situation in focus. it is important for all of us here that the ukrainian immunity worked, and it was nice to see how the journalists did their job well, it was very nice to see how the representatives of this complex, where the journalists were helpful. to such an investigation, not being afraid, not hiding, but fully helping to ensure that the justice and transparency of the situation was reconstructed, well, actually, as they reacted in the ukrainian services, also quite positively characterizes that we have already moved very far from the soviet legacy, and where we are faced with such soviet, post-soviet, dubious practices, the system loses public attention and public pressure, well, as for the student himself, where... nd , the question still remains, was he fired because of the fact that actually such a shameful, such a shameful operation

took place at all, that journalists were persecuted, filmed, or because that during the implementation of this operation, it was implemented so poorly that 30 plus agents were compromised during it, and then we look at all this as a tragicomedy and a caricature of the activities of the special services. comparing it with the russian amateurs of spiele and in salisbury, because it is clear that such execution of this operation, it hits the image of the ukrainian special services, not only from the point of view of democracy, but also from the point of view of professionalism, and therefore it is possible that this release should paint a dual nature, but then the question of what to do with all those violations, which were allowed in the process, and this should also carry, let's say about should serve as a basis for additional responsibility of all parties. persons, thank you, mr. oleg , mr. maksym, mr. oleg said that this is evidence that we have moved away from

the soviet union, from these soviet practices, but this department, which actually monitored the running, is the same former administration, the fifth administration, the political security, or how to call it correctly, the fifth administration, which was in the kgb, in the ssr. and then it was transformed, then it was reformed, then there is something else, there is a separate department that also deals with journalists, that is, there is the management of the media, well, they deal with us there, but does this indicate that both in the sbu and in the authorities still prevail this fraternal psychology, when journalists are needed , something, something must be monitored with... something to look for them, eavesdrop, then pour this video into some cisterns, drains, because i remember all the presidents and under all

the presidents. so there was always something, something, something with journalists kompromat, in gangadze, unfortunately, died because of all those tapes that were there in kuchma's office, and whether he was killed under these tapes, or whether someone there used these recordings in order to, unfortunately, kill our colleague, and it is also not clear, but this story was with almost everyone, or far? did we move away from the soviet union precisely in the relations between the authorities and journalists? well, i would say that we have moved away , well, some kind of criterion or indicator of how far we have moved away is that this whole plot, it is today, well, according to the classical if you divide it by genres, consider it, then it is more of a comedy than a tragedy, and... and this is

just an indicator, that is, the soviet system, it was distinguished by the fact that it was scary, and the current system, it is more, well, more encouraging moreover, to consider what is funny about it, that is, actually in the dry residue , we saw how the operators spend their leisure there, eh, i don't think that it is something very specific for the bigus company or for... or for the operators or in general , well, we saw these shots there, as it happens, and many took it with humor , but it shocked someone, but nevertheless we looked behind this high fence that is now shown there and behind these walls of these houses, then we saw how the sbu works, we saw how these agents work , and this too, well... caused

more irony than, so to speak, fear of such an all-powerful special service, but, another note, what i would do here, i would not attribute this situation to some post-soviet legacy or something , a completely similar plot, i could easily imagine in some holl film about the practices there... of the american special services and so on, it seems to me that this is a fairly typical situation for modern society, and if we reduce it all to some post-soviet syndromes, then it will be a great simplification, and the very end i would express such an assumption, a hypothesis, which now occurred to me, looking at all this, that all this could be connected with our previous topic, that is

, i have very strong doubts that the sbu is seriously engaged in among their priorities, puts surveillance on bigus there or on journalists, in general. it seems to me that this is a sign that 10 seconds on the air, please, 10 seconds on the air, yes, it seems to me that someone from the government, some parts of it are the customers of this comedy, and the sbu became a victim. the same as the company. thank you, mr. maksym, maksym rozumny, oleg sahakyan were guests of our program today, during the program we conducted a survey, we asked you about whether you support zelensky's idea of ​​restarting the government. 18% yes, 84% no, these are the results of television poll. it was the verdict program, hosted by serhiy rudenko. tomorrow at 20:00 we will have valery chaly, don't miss it, the broadcast will be interesting. goodbye.

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