those people who have been with us for two years now, literally in two weeks, two years, not just those who left voluntarily, the whole of ukraine is fighting, and every man who is registered or thinks that he lives in ukraine must go through this is such an irreversible situation here, it has to go through, and these people are tired, depending on who will replace him, but in general, he provides us enough. then the industrious suits you, yes, i think that this dismissal will be inappropriate now, because on the battlefield commanders are not changed before someone is dismissed from some position, especially such an important post, you need to make sure who will replace this person, and how he sees the future course of it. of all actions and

what he proposes in the future, what actions to take to improve, because as i understand it, our government, if it wants to change someone, then these changes should go only for the better, not for the worse, so on this issue, i think , our authorities should think about it, i will remind you that you are watching. tseter svoboda live on the youtube channel of radio svoboda, where we talk about the resignation of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, and taking this opportunity, i ask you to like this broadcast, as well as subscribe to the radio liberty youtube channel, so as not to miss our broadcasts and our materials, in particular from the front line, and many of our correspondents communicate with the military every day and prepare these materials for you so that you understand , which takes place in the russian war. against ukraine, in fact, we

return to our topic of the resignation of general zaluzhnyi and the fact that oleksandr styrsky became his successor. for this purpose , we invited roman pagulych to speak with us the military correspondent of radio svoboda, he is already in touch with us. roman, i see you, i congratulate you, in fact, tell me what is known about alexander syrsky, what he is known for, and what should be expected from him, what do you know about this? well, i do not struggle to assess what to expect from him, after all, he will have a huge responsibility to build a strategic level of defense, but about general syrsky, a military personnel, and although he became known to a wide audience already after the full-scale invasion, he was actually in charge positions at the headquarters of the ato, that is , the anti-terrorist operation, which lasted from 14 to 18 years, then he was also in the operation of the united forces of ukraine, that is, when he changed.

legislation and transferred control from the anti-terrorist center of the sbu to the military directly, after that he actually headed the position, headed the ground forces of ukraine, and he actually still remained there, although he was seconded as the head of the khortytsia operational-strategic group, which is responsible for a huge section of the front, which stretches from kupyansk and... ends on the outskirts of horlivka, avdiivka already goes further south there, and it is already tavria , that is, it is actually a huge responsibility, which was also on the shoulders of not only general serisky himself, but also his team, because after all, it is not about personal things, when it is about the command command of huge groups of troops. roman, how do the military evaluate the previous operations commanded by oleksandr syrskyi? i wouldn't put

such a lie here either, so to speak, if you can call operations purely by the last name of one person, because after all, when an operation is carried out, whether in kharkiv region or kherson region or anywhere, dozens of people are involved in it at the level of planning, implementation, coordination of forces and means, and so on and the like, there is no actual confirmed one. information, there are no documents with which we could get acquainted in order to evaluate the success of these operations there, so all these opinions, they are based on generally anonymous testimonies of military personnel and military personnel of various levels, that is why there was criticism for the operation near bakhmut, when a significant the amount of resources of the ukrainian troops was used in order to restrain the russian troops and at that time the so-called pkvva.

which then very intensively stormed the city in order to capture it, but again, this criticism is heard and heard from the military. of different levels, often anonymously , for example, there in social networks or from the western media, but there are no documents to evaluate these operations, well, not without seeing the plan and its implementation, what they aimed for, what they came to, it is difficult to talk about them, but again still operations in public space are attributed tsarskoe and on the liberation of kherson, including in kharkiv oblast, but again... this is somewhat incorrect and conditional, well, it is convenient to say in slogans that this is the work of one person, but in fact , a significant amount of people are always involved in this process, because it is very difficult to plan an operation with the involvement of thousands of people, equipment and resources, and it

is always a group effort, well, we just spoke with oleksandr mosienko, who also says that in order to understand what changes, how the approaches of the command will change, it will be possible to judge approximately somewhere at the end in... the spring of 2024 and we at radio svoboda will definitely be watching and analyzing this, in particular your work, roman, is invaluable in this. at the very end, i really want to understand how long it will take for us to see certain results of this kind of management at the top of the military. as can be assumed, oleksandr syrskyi will come to a new position together with... a team, that is , it will obviously be a replacement in stu in kortytsia, where he previously led, and a replacement, presumably, of deputies or the head of the general headquarters, which is at least a whisper now,

so these people, by analogy with the replacement of the minister of defense, will need time to understand and get up to speed, and this will also require from. them intensive work for some time, so it is definitely not about some quick days and weeks, most likely about months, and again, can we talk about any noticeable changes on the front line or in the actions of the military, if resource provision, artillery ammunition, the same themselves or any other help from the event, it will not move from a standstill, or if the military does not receive ... replenishment after a wave of mobilization, increased mobilization along with the adoption of a new bill, that is, is it possible to change something without attracting new resources, both human and technical, and how this can affect tactics , if

you have to cover yourself with the same? of course, we will actually follow how the approaches in the armed forces will change and how the situation with the provision of technical assistance will change in... the question of shells, it is very urgent, it is all really necessary it's all to be seen in the complex, we were contacted by roman pagulych, a military correspondent of radio liberty, with whom we talked about how the new commander-in-chief of the syrian armed forces is seen at the front and what can be expected from him. thank you. well, let's also talk about the political component of this decision. since there is also the opinion that the dismissal of zaluzhnyi took place due to political disputes between the commander-in-chief and the supreme commander-in-chief, and that the dismissal itself was carried out in a certain political-technological way, actually about all this

let's talk now, ihor eyterovych, political scientist, candidate of political sciences, good evening, good evening, i want to start with a quote from the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine. mykhailo podeliak , he explained in a telegram the reasons why general zaluzhny was fired, i will quote now: the decision is due to the need to review the tactics of actions, which did not fully ensure the proper result last year, to prevent stagnation on the front line, which negatively affects public sentiment, to find new functional and high-tech solutions, which will make it possible to get and develop the initiative, that's how you like such political communication with... general involved, especially considering the fact that, well, in the information space it was already talked about for a long time, but the president's office allegedly refrained from commenting. let me characterize this communication with the word strange, that is, not to say any other words, why because, well, what

mr. podolyak listed, well, it looks, to put it mildly, not at all on the topic of what happened, well, first of all , he does not hold any official position, there is an adviser to the head of the office. and well i would like to hear such comments from the president, by the way, in his address, the president also mentioned a certain stagnation at the front, some failures in the south and in the donetsk region, but here one arises... a very simple question, what are these so-called failures related? by the way, a couple of weeks ago the president said that there is no stagnation, there are successes, there is a strategic initiative for ukraine, and everything will be fine, in a couple of years he said, i will just remind our viewers in an interview with the italian broadcaster, rai, that what there is supposed to be stagnation on land, but there are successes at sea, i’ll just add to the context, yes , yes, he talked about these things, but the bottom line is that the strategic initiative remains with ukraine, and you understand, successes at sea , they are connected with... strikes carried out on land, that is, first of all, it is the destruction of some communication nodes, warehouses

and so on in the territory of the enemy, so when mr. podalyak tries to find some military reasons there, it looks, well, to say the least, funny, in fact, well, like frank phariseeism, since everyone knows very well, and i have partially heard in your previous stories, what is the situation at the front today, how are the ukrainian military economies forced? for example, ammunition, and this is clearly not a matter for the commander-in-chief and the general staff, that is, from a military point of view and to date, there are no adequate reasons for such a rotation, they are absent, so we immediately return to politics and we are really talking about the political factor in that it is possible to change one military officer for another, guided by some purely political motives, at least that's how i see it , until some specific military, tactical... strategic, operational, or other reason is explained to the public, it will all look like wanting to take down a hugely

popular figure on a mission that has a huge amount of success and enjoys huge support from the citizens of ukraine. well, according to the latest polls, which were published just yesterday, they did not mention the name of zaluzhnyi, but the armed forces were mentioned, the president, who had already dropped out of the top five, was mentioned who is most trusted in the country, well , i think the reasons for this resignation. and they are quite understandable, but there is one more point, this is the discrepancy between the views of zelenskyi and zaluzhnyi on how the war should continue, and what needs to be done in order for ukraine to intensify its successes directly on the battlefield, but again, well, the decision is made the supreme commander, he is not a military man, so the decision a priori is political even in this context, in your opinion, if there really were such different views, could zelenskyy say so to blame, even to explain to himself that what... some failures on the battlefield, this is the guilty one, you know, it is difficult to get into the head of the president, how he explains himself there

and what he explains, but it is clear that he must have there was dissatisfaction , he believes, for example, he believes that he, on his part , did everything, acquired all the necessary equipment, ammunition and so on, provided everything, but the armed forces and the head of the company, they were not able to directly implement certain decisions there specifically on the battlefield, but again anyway, well, this is not true , we know very well... what amount of aid ukraine received in 2023, we know very well what the shortage was, including the equipment that was promised by our partners and the communication with which the head was engaged states and other people who are responsible for, well , the issues are related to receiving this, let's say, support. zaluzhny frankly said at the end of the 22nd, at the beginning of the 23rd, what exactly he, as the commander-in-chief and the armed forces, needed for a successful offensive? from what he voiced on that... from moment to moment already at the stage of the beginning of the ukrainian counteroffensive or offensive, not

even half of it was carried out, that is, in this context, you know, if you start to understand this situation, then in fact you can find a lot of unpleasant things, but unpleasant things for politicians, and one more very an important point, i specifically rewatched it last week, because i commented on this topic a lot, well, for known reasons, the military never except for budanov, but he has a specific position. it must be understood that he is responsible for intelligence. none the military never once talked about what we would gain as a result of the offensive, and they did not make any promises, especially, you know, not supported by any facts. the representatives of the political leadership talked about the successes, and when these successes were not achieved in the format in which they talked, well, they had to find, apparently, some responsible ones. in this regard, the military seem to be the most vulnerable group that could be targeted. and discard essentially all this responsibility, consequences we saw this today when the decision to resign was made. mr. igor

, and then there is this question, you yourself mentioned the political ratings that continue to be measured in ukraine, despite the fact that the elections, well, it is not visible, even on the horizon, when they may take place, however politically this story can to influence the rating of zaluzhnyi himself and zelenskyi. well, look, we can't say anything salacious right now for one simple reason, we don't know. what will he do next, the president invited him to team, i heard diametrically opposite information, on the one hand, on the other hand this information. tion that zaluzhny refused to be in the team, others write that he agreed there, that is, we need to see what he will do next, this is the first key point, it is clear that the trust rating in him, he after today's events, i am convinced, it will not decrease, it will only increase, it is already very high, well, it will be somewhere at the level of the rating of trust in the armed forces of ukraine, and the president, you understand,

what is the question here, he is doomed, and this an objective, normal process, which should be treated calmly, it is doomed to lose its trust rating to some extent in... 24, there is nothing wrong with that. what he has today is a dream for many leaders of a developed democracy, in which there is no war, and they do not have such a trust rating, which the current head of state of ukraine has today, but perhaps the president's entourage, perhaps somewhere the president himself, they believe that this is not enough, we need to have more and we need some kind of rating to raise, but such steps will lead to a drop in the rating, and here is a very good cut... there is, for example, i don't know, the information that now appears under the president's post on instagram or on facebook, where he basically wrote about about this resignation , well, read what the ukrainians write there, i specifically spent literally 5 minutes to find at least one positive comment, unfortunately, i didn’t see any positive comments there, well, what do you think, how will it be reflected in the chapter’s rating now state during the next sociological survey, this is obvious

will be with a minus sign and the fall may be quite significant, mr. igor, let's talk about such a... political portrait of the new head of the commissar oleksandr syrskyi. earlier, the media reported that zelensky was communicating with him directly, bypassing zaluzhnyi. and we also saw that we even noticed that in the video press service of zelenskyi , syrskyi is often seen, as zelenskyi and syrskyi come to him, they go somewhere together, and not zaluzhnyi. was syrskyi really being prepared to replace zaluzhnyi a long time ago? well, at least they talked about it actively half a year, and the conversation in general ... started back in the summer of 2023, when it became clear that everything was not going so well with the counteroffensive, and then they really paid attention to it, that the name of syrskyi was constantly emphasized, and zaluzhnyi was mentioned there much less than he deserved, let's say, so i think that such plans, they existed, existed

for a long time, they were looking for somewhere, maybe for some moment when they could be implemented, they thought, how is it right. do and because when this rotation took place, well, the name of the successor of the zaluzhnoy, it really should not surprise anyone here, it is a logical, expected, predicted candidacy, and by and large it has no alternative, because to date the military leadership does not have, well , other people who would have such experience and have the opportunity to work so much under the leadership of zaluzhnyi, and accordingly understand the situation that currently exists at the front. mr. igor, how do you comment on what happened in the ukrainian infospace weeks before the actual dismissal, we remember that the fact that the decree had already been signed at the bank was reported by both anonymous telegram channels, some of them connected to the president's office, and people's deputies, and journalists, and journalists of western publications from referring to their sources, so do the ukrainian media, and

what does this mean, are we seeing some kind of political technology here, as it were? preparing society for such a decision, well, it was definitely a technology when they started throwing in these theses, measuring the perception of these theses by society, by the way, it was negative, and when the posts of some well-known people 's deputies began to appear there, they caused a wave of indignation, but it continued to grow, they were thrown in more and more, they began to invent some stories, well, in fact, to manipulate there are some or other facts, er, when the situation... has already reached a certain critical level, there was an attempt to carry out this resignation a couple of weeks ago, but someone leaked the information, this is a separate topic, let's say, yes for conversation, and on that the moment she was slowed down, because it looked very bad, but the pump, it didn't go anywhere, it continued only in a softer such format, well, today it reached its peak, so to speak, its peak, i 'll say right away, by the way , even the very fact

of this release, it was arranged very correctly in terms of political technology, joint photos, joint statements. here , of course, we must give credit to the former commander-in-chief, he he, let's remember here in this context that literally an hour later it became known about the exchange between ukraine and russia, should these events be connected, or is this also political technology? well, look , maybe, well, of course, we already knew about this exchange in advance , and in order for some additional news of a positive nature to appear, i think that it has something to do with today . well, on the other hand, you know, if we look for some more coincidences, we will go very far, but russians, listen, the russians are completely serious, for example, they write, well , they have no brains at all, that zelensky did this in order to. .. to interrupt the effect of putin's interview with carlson yes, what was done, well, of course, this is complete nonsense, but in the context of these things, yes, look, a very positive background of what

happened today, it is clear that this is a certain technology, well, but well, what else should we have expected , that the president will just come out in the evening and say: i made a decision to fire the hard worker, he had two options: to do it, you know, to fire 10-15 people there in the complex, he decided to do it this way, although these are not the last firings. by the way, it is not a fact that the chief of the general staff is there will remain in his position, as the president said, now syrskyi will present his team, something tells me that this team will significantly reshuffle the general staff, and there will be many new people who will already be syrskyi's protégés, and not protégés , for example, well, from personnel points, this is also the right approach, he has the right to form his own team, but how independent this team will be, politically first of all, this question is actually open today. mr. igor, we also saw a lot. statement from western partners of ukraine, that they will not interfere in the internal affairs of ukraine, will not influence, nor support, nor object to the release of the prisoner, is it really so,

or is it still in washington, for example, brussels, maybe in london, so to speak, you could express their reservations, er, there they could express, well, maybe some, well, not their position on the matter there to release, not to release, express certain. concerns about how the processes will develop further, well , first of all, communication, receiving help there, and so on, but i am convinced that well no one set any conditions for zelenskyi , everyone perfectly understands that this is his right, he takes responsibility, and the responsibility is very serious, because it is necessary to understand that in the next few months it is, well, for sure, any things there, that will take place at the front, they will be associated primarily not with oleksandr syrsky, but primarily with volodymyr zelensky. that is, it is a risk, the risk is quite serious, but the president's office decided to play this game and take this risk on themselves, and with partners, i think that

they had a fairly frank conversation , they explained that nothing will fundamentally change, communication will be at the same level, they will agree on some key things that are important to us in the first place, so i think they are calm enough for this they reacted to the story, but we will see how it will be further, because the main thing here is... you are managed precisely in the context of the armed forces of ukraine, and then think about establishing or continuing relations with our partners there, there will be fewer problems, therefore that the system already worked out, and they understand such changes. mr. igor, what are the political prospects of general zaluzhnyi, you said that it will be necessary to see, so to speak, whether he will really join the team, but we see that , first of all, some political figures in ukraine already officially support him , so to speak with... show their support for zaluzhny and, as it were, oppose him to zelensky, can you comment on this moment? look, here is a very simple story: as long as the war continues, valery has no political prospects

fedorovych is gone, i think he understands this perfectly, no one will engage in politics while the war is going on, especially the person who was the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, it really depends on what he will do, whether he will remain somewhere in the team the president, will have some position , or he, well, he is an active military serviceman, yes, it is necessary... to understand that he can keep, well, engage in some other things, or he will, for example, teach, it is very important to him, well, there is a lot of experience today, and our military needs this so that a person of this level can tell them , explain how to plan, execute , and so on, and when the war is over, then it will be possible to talk concretely and frankly about some political prospects of valery zaluzhny, but, but if it remains as it is today. of course, he will have very, very , let's say, promising prospects, very promising, we will, we will follow this too, in particular, watch, thank you very much for joining our broadcast, he was with us

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ukrainian and our chas time program, my name is ostap yarysh. the white house stated that they will work with any military leadership of ukraine, regardless of changes in command. this is how they commented on the appointment of colonel-general oleksandr syrskyi as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. the day before , volodymyr zelenskyi announced such a decision, adding that he offered former chairman valery zaluzhny to continue to be in team zaluzhnyi himself wrote: "our battle continues and changes every day. everyone must change and adapt to new realities in order to win together as well. western media write that zaluzhnyi's resignation came at a fateful moment in russia's war against ukraine, calling the former leader an iron general. new the york times notes that the change in leadership comes at a time when russia is stepping up its attacks, and there is no unity in the us congress on future aid to ukraine . congress is close to approving aid for ukraine, let's talk with our correspondents

in the white house and'. yuliya yarmolenko and kateryna lisenova. i congratulate you. julia, to you, first of all, you listened to the briefing today at the white house, how did they react to the news about the changes in the ukrainian military leadership, what can you share? ostape reacted as expected, john kirby, a representative of the us national security council, said that the supreme commander, actually volodymyr zelensky, should decide who he wants to see as the leader or head of his army and too in times of war. also. he said there was no concern in the united states that this could somehow destabilize the situation in any way. also, celeste wallender, the assistant to the head of the pentagon, said today that they are convinced that they will work effectively with the new command, and she herself said about general syrsky that he is an effective, experienced and successful commander. also today is john kirby when...