then obviously we will witness a new personnel appointment, if there is no such personnel appointment, obviously the diligent person will be engaged in teaching activities, as he said, and he said that he needs to rest a little and improve his health, obviously, obviously, we will to see valery zaluzhny in ukrainian politics, because he has a sufficient trust rating from the people. high, we understand that there are not many such generals in ukraine, but to put it simply, he is the only one, you see, songs are written about him, eh, poems are dedicated to him, paintings are dedicated to him, he is painted as a hard worker, and indeed he became a people's general, an iron general, as they call him, who did a lot for ukraine in this difficult time, the first two years of the great war - this is a long enough

period for that , for zaluzhnyi to prove himself as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, the most difficult time was when he was in the position of the head of the armed forces of ukraine, as to what kind of leader syrskyi will be, it is difficult to say yet , but he was close to zaluzhnyi and was part of valery zaluzhny's team, and obviously, obviously, he will er... carry out the same policy, but at least there will not be any sharp movements to the left or right, the policy that has been in the armed forces of ukraine until now. and we already have a politician, diplomat, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine in the united states of america in 2015-19 , valery chaly. mr. valery, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, quite a difficult informational evening today, that's why... the fact that you joined our

conversation, but had to tell about these personnel rotations that took place at the level of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. how will the rotation of the chief of staff and the change of zaluzhnyi to syrskyi affect our relations with the outside world, how this world perceives it, whether they perceive it exclusively as an internal matter of ukraine and they will communicate with any general in the same way as with zaluzhnyi, because... we have a lot of international partners in various formats, but luzhuz is an understandable head for them, and syrskyi is still a new head, and we will have to get used to him? i'm from with your permission, i'll just tell you what was first heard in the foreign media, while you were explaining the situation, which everyone is focusing on, the wall street journal, it seems, was the first to even do it.

the publication that this has been done, this, well, this is a decision, let’s say , because we don’t know yet, i haven’t seen any decrees, nor how it will change, as they say, with the bank , that now there will be some changes in the approaches in the armed forces, i i don't even see everything, but what they are already saying, well, after the official reports of president ukrainir zelensky. by appointment, they say that the worst time is chosen for the worst in the conditions, as the wall street journal writes, in the conditions when the russians provide additional forces, attack, and ukraine still has a blocked decision in the us congress on aid, well, to be honest, well, imagine indeed such a moment of the worst for such a decision is difficult.

well, that's what we're hearing from the outside, but well, we're seeing another piece of this mosaic that's being put together, which is the resignation of the industrious, there's going to be a big two-hour interview tonight with carlson, this former fox news anchor, and it's will also obviously play against ukraine during the consideration of aid to ukraine. uh, why, why, why so synchronously, did it coincide like that, why these two events, they do not strengthen us, but weaken us? well, in russia, strangely enough, they are rejoicing for something, why we do not understand, because general syrsky, in principle, he was also now participating in all operations, and why they began to rejoice more, i still do not understand, but here i think the general.

silsky will, in principle, show them on business that they are happy early, but because they are they are evaluating it there by the bushel, they say that it was done today , the announcement of this decision by the president of the country, well, i hope there is an official decree, somehow we will see what it is to interrupt tucker carson's interview with their leader, well, it's actually funny, that's why what about interrupting the interview, because first of all , there's a lot of informational other events today, there's literally just a hearing in the united states supreme court today, it's just a hearing, there's going to be a... donald trump will be involved in whether remove his from the ballots in colorado, at least, and for certain ones, well, as the relevant people filed a lawsuit for his actions there during the previous election campaign, this evening

has the greatest resonance in the united states, of course the interview with putin is predicted to be there, but we all understand the message, it will really have... to cement this and that group of viewers of tucker carson, who, by the way, really wants to become vice president together with donald trump, he is doing everything for this, russia is pursuing its goals, but i think it is the court session, it will in many ways interrupt the attention of information today, well, of course, here it must also be understood that all this interrupts the attention to... ukrainian affairs, in this regard, if someone was choosing a moment so that the united states would have less reaction, then the moment for those who took it may have stopped, but nevertheless, this will all be considered in the following weeks, why weeks,

because despite the fact that the senate today adopted a procedural decision on aid to ukraine, there is a new package of 95 billion, ukraine. taiwan and israel, but this is all a procedural decision, i i will say right away that it is a good decision, procedural , because it stopped the filibuster option, this filibuster is such an american tradition that it is possible in the senate, where, unlike the house of representatives, the time is limited, in the house of representatives, the unlimited time of consideration is limited in the senate, that is, if you are considering a filibuster procedure. then you can talk for whole days to discuss the issue, the record of one senator 24 hours and 18 minutes was achieved in this regard, but today they stopped it, transferred the procedure to a vote in the next period, well, that is, this is the next period -

this is after their recession, they have a pause there and in two weeks they can probably vote, the house of representatives at the same time absolutely does not change the attitude of ... the chairman or the speaker of the house of representatives, mike johnson, who is very listening to donald trump. therefore, in fact, we will see the situation in ukraine in the newspapers tomorrow or the day after tomorrow and we will see a few more analytical articles. i don't think it does much to support aid to ukraine, unfortunately. that is, but now there is a lot of news that, frankly, i would like so that they could be at another time, well , i would like to say only one thing about the decision of president volodymyr zelenskyi, it is obvious that he has the right to it, legal, well , legitimacy and legal decisions are slightly

different aspects, but everything is written in our country like this , the only thing i will say is that i was once on an american aircraft carrier, when i was there for the first time, i will tell you honestly, i was surprised... that the captain of the aircraft carrier of the ship does not interfere in the activities of the wing carrier, which is about nine squadrons of 70-80 aircraft, this is commanded by a separate state, separate, as a rule, also with not only aviation experience, but a wider one, but he gives commands, and if the planes are not... present on the aircraft carrier, they are not based there, then the aircraft carrier does not have its effectiveness, so in principle, the main thing here is not only to replace some one person or to put another, that is, we understand that this

is happening in the most difficult times and the entire structure will change, so such an example shows how much everything must be done on time. and coordinated, and the americans are not so stupid that they do not subordinate, say, the same aircraft carrier wing commander, under the captain of the aircraft carrier, and both of them, i spoke for... and they normally perceive it absolutely, because they see the only tasks in coordination in the general system, and if this system works, if there is support, and there are also support ships, and the whole the carrier group that provides that, there's the ships that provide the supplies, then there's the base, if that whole system works, then it's fine, but if one of the links goes down, then... then i think that creates a certain vulnerability to that system, so i would really like to

we did not receive the vulnerability of our system before the enemy, well, there is another subjective one, as a citizen of ukraine, sooner or later i would like to hear some conscious explanations, because with all due respect to general syrsky, general zaluzhny, to many, by the way , not only generals. to the soldiers, officers, armed forces of ukraine, it's not about, it's not about the last name, why does general zuluzh appear in the magazine, why does president volodymyr zelenskyy appear in time magazine, these are the ukrainian armed forces, the ukrainian people, and they such in a way, well, they show, once they even put the ukrainian people on the cover, that is , at certain stages each time it is personified by certain people, but these people are not them. and in principle, on the one hand, on the other hand, each

history will give its due, but the problem is that we ukrainians do not have time to wait for what history will say, we have questions of the survival of the country and our personal lives, therefore, i have many questions, in fact, to this particular moment, why is it that at such a moment, when russia is pre-attacking us, we we are actually making changes in the management system of the armed forces of ukraine, but i cannot understand this, as a person who is not a military person, not an expert, therefore, not an expert in this field, so i would still like to hear this answer, everything else is already a question , which will really judge history one day, well, without any doubt , zelenskyi had the legislative and legal right to release the industrious person, i lacked a justification, and what? at the front, if they worked together, the general

is officially about a change, something will be different, the dynamics of zaluzhny, general syrskyi, they, the general sirsky was responsible for a more important direction , i.e. what changed, why should the tactics and dynamics change then, what caused it to change, from the fact that... there will be practically one school, and general sersky was just finishing the soviet one, general zaluzhnyi, after all, he already had others some kind of transition in education, but i don’t understand what will change then, let me explain, our government will give optimism, i don’t have enough of these, you know, optimistic precepts such that we all feel the ukrainian people that everything is really going in good direction well, you see, always when they talked about zaluzhnyi, they talked about the fact that

he had already graduated from the ukrainian independent higher military education university, and syrsky, you correctly noted, he graduated from the moscow high command military college in 1986, and was born in russia federation, well, but he is a ukrainian general, he is a hero of ukraine, he commanded the ground troops of the armed forces of ukraine, but this is not a treaty... struggled, unexplained, sooner or later it will play against president zelenskyi including, because if there is no such dynamic, which they are talking about during the 24th year, then the responsibility for this will be borne not only by the head of the armed forces of ukraine, but also by the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, he will have to share this responsibility, which he used to breed between himself and the industrious one, right? i am not a political technologist, i am simply speaking as a citizen of ukraine, and from the point of view of my specialization

in international relations, it is obvious that there were discussions in russia on the eve of this, and in principle such a moment was said, i say the truth always, that's why they said that for gerasimov, the one in command in russia, in principle, general zaluchny, he, i think, is quite predictable, i... for general zaluchny, also gerasim, and then they said that in order to in order to change something in the dynamics, we will come up with something like this, we will change the war to a maneuverable one, about this decision. was not accepted, i normally treat general sersky with respect, he has done it before, but even now he has done many things, and very successful ones, i am not about that, i am just saying that it is no does not signal a change of approaches, but i do not see how this can signal a change of approaches, they worked together, both

generals and together developed all these operations together, well, and one more point, after all, this decision goes beyond the scope of purely rotation, changes in the armed forces of ukraine , there will be many more consequences, and i do not want to give details now, there will be no major external ones, because in principle, officially, everyone will say that this is your right, your decision, the americans found it out personally, everything is here with a visit, they heard everything. others partners as well, i just want to wish general syrskyi to be in the talks, that’s how the negotiations will be conducted, and there you need to speak english correctly with them, so that he, er, if he understood that there is a background, and now it is very important that

general zaluzhnyi never shied away from helping our armed forces. i would very much like to ask him, now using this opportunity, to give his advice, because such experience, such understanding, such understanding of our partners and our goals, such nuances do not exist in any whom, simply by position, the president has , volodymyr zelenskyi, but he has a different one, like the previous president, who during the war was petro poroshenko, they have their own there... wall, namely in the general staff with partners, and with the troops, and with this experience , which we really need now, we will have further, if, how he will find this solution, to advise our generals, i do not know, i understand that in such a situation you can smile, shake hands there, by the way , for which i am also grateful, that all this should also

affect the fact that everything is calm with us in country, but nevertheless, i understand... that he, a person who, well, without explaining the reason, but in principle, was released, this can break everyone's wishes, i am sure that everything will work out for him and i really hope, that all advice will be heard and useful for the armed forces of ukraine. well, in the meantime , a message appeared from volodymyr zelenskyi that another 100 ukrainians are at home in ukraine, he wrote on his facebook page, the national guard. border guards of the armed forces of ukraine, the majority of defenders of mariupol, all of ours, all of them are back on their native land, we work for each and every one and not let's stop until we get everyone back, and we, let's go back to the situation in the united states of america, because you already said that the senate of the united states of america voted

to consider an agreement for 95 billion to help ukraine, israel and taiwan, as i understand it, that it is procedural. voting, i.e. for starting consideration of this issue, i understand correctly, i was a little ahead of events, i will say once again that this is a procedural vote, it pushes the vote in the senate further, because it could be delayed there for months, but now it is is delayed, i think for two weeks, calls for... other things, because right now there is a pause in the work of the senate, then 60 votes are still needed and the document is already approved, well , i looked at this new package, i quickly looked at it, there is certain reductions, what is fundamentally important is the fact that

this budget aid for ukraine, in terms of military and technical support, is not quite reflected there. cooperation there remain the main positions, i would call this package, not aid to ukraine, support for the national security of the united states conditions of the russian war against ukraine. there is a lot of talk about strengthening the american army, the space forces, the navy, well, all of them are being strengthened, plus there are separate funds for armaments. for ukraine, that is, in principle, it is more concentrated on military-technical issues than before, what was considered, but this is what we need as a priority, but once again... i remind you that even when the senate makes such a decision, on which i really hope, because a lot has already been invested there, but the question was from the very beginning

began to follow a different path, but now they have followed what was more obvious from the very beginning, and still the house of representatives, where there are no democrats, that is, there will be problems, and in principle, the benefit of blocking. very high, so we need to pay less attention to what is happening in the us congress, the main challenges will be precisely in ukraine, these challenges will be precisely related to the institutional stability of the state, country, society, too much has fallen on the heads of our ukrainians at the same time , and very i hope you understand total war against russia. that it involves all the forces of society, the understanding that now, speaking as an adult, is not an easy moment, let's say, although i am

optimistic for periods later, now it is a very difficult moment, russia is essentially coming to us, that is, it sets the maximum bet now, it is obvious, he is not carrying over this bet to the 25th year, he is making it now, he is... ready to participate in the american campaign, he, judging by everything, will do, he has made his bets, russia will act aggressively, in including in europe, i.e. they they will do everything in order to consolidate their conquest of territories this year, this is most likely evidence of this recent activity and concentration of efforts, so we also need to understand in matters of timing. and the most important thing, so that we don’t forget, we are concentrating on the usa, today the largest aid to ukraine came from the european

union, and the head of the foreign policy of the european union spoke in the parliament, and the european union accepted a package of 50 billion for four years, and germany , and now on the eve of the visit of german chancellor scholz to washington. tomorrow there will literally be, as i understand it, meetings already at the highest level, and french statements, and british statements, that is, i think that we need to look at all these things in a complex, and all this shapes our defense capabilities, that is, the key - this is an internal capacity, and we need to look at our own production of weapons, maximally simplified procedures, so as not to economically squeeze the last penny out of business, but... we will have to plan further, at least for a short time, there on medium-term perspective, there are many things that we have to

solve at the same time, so i really hope that we will come out of this difficult period, at least weakened, let's say. you asked about scholz, who went to washington today before leaving for the united states of america. he warned of the danger of russia's victory if ukraine's allies do not increase military support and financial aid. let's hear what scholz said. germany made a very big contribution by deciding on the budget for 2024 and commitments we have made for the following years. but this will not be enough if there is not enough support from the salt industry. and now is the time for us to do what is necessary, which is to work together. to give ukraine the opportunity to defend itself and at the same time send a very clear signal to the russian president that he cannot count on our support to decrease and that it will last for a long time? this is

the message we all need to send in the coming days and weeks. so, mr. valery, regarding scholz's meeting with biden and the negotiations, obviously, it will also be about the fact that germany will be more... involved, even more involved in helping ukraine, and obviously, these negotiations may also be about long-range missiles, as far as such a scenario is possible, and such meetings, they usually end with some definite results and they are iconic, aren't they? of course, germany is the most powerful economically, and now it is silent... china has really woken up, the risks for european countries, the central european countries of nato have increased, which is now

being seriously considered. i'll say it like i do i talk and they tell me that they strategically decide where to stop russia, i.e. whether on their nato borders or in ukraine, and actually stopping it in ukraine requires a completely different concentration of efforts than there were at certain stages of this war, and in principle, the dynamics, speed supplies, so they're going to... talk, i understand, exchange with each other as they see opportunities, because basically joseph biden has made a political bet, and that's a good signal, so he's made forced in a lot of ways because donald trump positioned him in such a way that he is responsible for the campaign in europe, and thus it will become part of the already election campaign of joseph

biden, supporting ukraine, well... no longer supporting ukraine, but more countering russian aggression, it will be done. now the role of the euro-atlantic partnership , i.e. they will talk among themselves, distribute also in the conditions when the dynamics in america is sagging, how can germany and other countries, which were also emphasized by the chancellor of germany, join this, i.e. in principle, this is a very important meeting for coordination euro-atlantic alliance. the day before the summit. nato in july, the month of the anniversary, well , i think that it will not end with us hearing what you say about the specifics, but we will feel a lot of things according to the mood, and joseph biden, of course, will also inform his european colleagues, because i have no doubt that after that there will be calls from both the president of the united states and the chancellor of germany to their colleagues explaining the situation, and they, i mean coordination

of efforts, i think that this is... this is a good chance to properly plan the next steps , but one more time i emphasize, external support, all determination, in conditions where they have their own strategy and their own vision, this is, well, let's put it this way, a necessary but insufficient factor for our victory, the victory of ukraine, well, i don't say epithets, because i think they are fair. is violated here, because these countries have to fight with us together, because putin attacked nato, and ukraine is fighting alone. nevertheless, they help us with weapons, financing, support for macro-financial stability, in humanitarian issues, this is a huge support, so we will thank them, but now it is necessary to understand that ukraine needs joint production of weapons, its own production of weapons, it is necessary to make a lot of quick, non-bureaucratized...

decisions, that is, here, i am not talking about quality, our quality, to be honest, i look at the quality of we have little to do with speed, according to the law on mobilization, i see that what was quickly brought in, what was longer, the same thing, so now speed is needed, dynamics, speed of reaction, concentration of forces, because, and this must with our partners after their meeting, it is very important... the conversation between the president of ukraine and the president of the united states and with the chancellor of germany, it is very important to hear the positions without delay, to coordinate actions, because now is actually one of the most critical moments of this war, a long war, the 14th year, but now in the 22nd year was such a moment, and now i think it will be no less difficult in the coming months, so there are other reasons, other factors, but it will be such

a moment, so... this meeting is important, i hope it will be positive, i hope that they will not simply declare further support of ukraine, how much, how much is needed, and about specific, quick help in the near future. one more thing, i wanted to ask you, mr. valery, about the statement of polish president andrzej duda that he is confident that trump will end the war in ukraine in 24 hours, as he promised. let's hear what he said. duda, and then we will continue. based on my personal experience as a president who once worked with president trump, i can say that what he promised me has been fulfilled. so if i got any promise from trump, if he promised me anything, it was this was carried out the question was about the promise.