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in the historical sense, there are no ukrainians , there is no history, there is no language, the world does not really understand it, but it is important for putin that it affects some of the americans , in order for it to work, so that the republican voters, they will never be pro-russian, but so that they don't become pro-ukrainian, so that they don't put pressure on their congressmen, so that these... the story never comes, so what he does is absolutely conscious, conscious preparation, conscious preparation, he knows why he speaks, and to whom, to whom it is addressed as for whether he is ready to negotiate, yes, but only with the americans, and only on the terms that he lays out, as far as i am concerned, this is by no means a negotiation, but... something of
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an attempt to advance his purely putin point of view and from that to start some kind of more or less unconscious conversation, i don't mean ours with the russian regime, but also the american one with russia, well, it actually looks bad, although we see that putin is also trying to touch the nuclear sphere, trying to... say that russia will defend its own as best it can interests, as putin himself understands them, and that there are issues related to, for example, strategic stability, nuclear arms control, and that these issues will still have to be discussed, and then our question will become only part of this logic, therefore, this interview should not be underestimated, i do not think that it succeeded. but nevertheless
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, putin is working on his task, and it is very important for us now to somehow reach those who watched this interview, and you yourself say that now it is more than 60 million views, and to reach those people, this for us it is also a matter of national security, but mr. pavle, putin repeats again, well , almost repeats the same... what he said or wrote in the ultimatum, which was in december 21 , on the eve of the war, when he marked some geographical points where russia should have influence there in eastern europe, of course it won't happen anymore, that's for sure, but he talks again about the fact that we were deceived, that the united states of america was deceived, that nato was deceived, well, that is, these mantras ... which he repeats from speech
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to speech, from article to article, he is constantly says that the world, and in particular the united states of america, should take into account the interests of russia, because russia is a great power, it is not necessary to enter into a world war with it, he said in an interview to tucker that no, no, no , this should not be done , because it is difficult to imagine the consequences there, for which he is constantly, well... warming up, is that russia should return the influence in eastern europe that the soviet union once had, although he constantly says that russia is carrying out a sign equality with the soviet union, well, in the interview i caught him several times that he is constantly says that russia, well, when it was still the soviet union, well, he constantly says that russia is the sign of equality of the soviet union, and this is heredity, he always talks about it, the empire, the soviet union. russia is one and the same for him, and he
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sees it that way, and he will continue to emphasize it, that is, if he says that he was deceived, then what kind of russia is his own, as he says, a great power, if it allowed herself to be deceived, that is, here he contradicts himself, as in many other issues. but with this interview he tries to raise the stakes and someone, someone who listens to him, if not to count, then to convey the meaning that he is ready to go to the end, and if he is ready, then at some point we will still have to negotiate, and let's negotiate, since i am ready to talk only with americans, he talks about it directly, and it's... a very important
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story, because here he's trying to jump over not only our heads, but also over the europeans, and today olaf scholz is just... in washington and it's going to be, well, very, very important a meeting in the context of solidarity of the west, the understanding of a strong response to the russian regime, the understanding that difficult discussions between democrats and republicans are still going on in washington, and they are unlikely to stop in the near future. europe is ready to throw bridges, and if so, it will be a strong answer to putin and... a cool answer that you can't negotiate through someone else's head, our european one, which is what putin is proposing. another event that took place this week, but the ukrainian mass media paid less attention to it
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, but still, i emphasize that the general director of magate, raphael grossi, visited the zaporizhia nuclear power plant temporarily captured by the russians, according to him, the main problems as of... are the expiration of the nuclear fuel in the reactors, as well as a significant reduction in the station's technical staff, but grossi was met by the russian occupiers and they told him they said: "we are glad to welcome you on russian soil in the russian federation." let's look at this fragment, because it is revealing.
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he will not say this, since he also travels to russia and has to negotiate with everyone, and he does not see himself as a politician, he sees himself as a hired international manager, this is of course very, very unpleasant, because he is actually trying to move away from issues that are intrinsically valuable. and what he is doing is simply maintaining, maintaining contacts, but he is not the only one in the west, and we also have to speak absolutely frankly, there are such, such people who, in principle, try not
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to understand reality, not to talk about it, and from this frankly and clearly leave, be people. which is a communicator between someone, so he himself sees, but not as a person and part of the event , let's say it frankly, a very short question, i hope for a short answer, literally in a month the next presidential election of the russian federation will be held , more simply the election of putin, should we now talk about the illegitimacy of putin, if the election is held on temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. this should definitely be one of our key topics. we must say that the organization of elections in the occupied territories delegitimizes the entire election process, and because of this the russian government, it should be our
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political thesis, it should be our legal thesis, and actually our value thesis, everything is very simple. thank you, mr. pavle, for the conversation, it was pavlo klimkin, the minister. of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-19, friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on facebook and youtube, please like this video, vote in our survey, because today we are asking you about the following, whether you understand the reasons for the resignation of the employee, and we already see 20% of our viewers on youtube. on youtube they said yes, no, 80%.
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greetings, dear viewers, on espresso tv channel, studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, which will undoubtedly determine the events. coming months, our guests today are matthew bryza and mark fagen. mark feigen, a figure of the russian opposition in exile, a former member of the state duma, will be working on the air of the tv channel now. video blogger, glory to ukraine, mark, congratulations, hero, glory, congratulations anton, congratulations all viewers, well, carlson landed in moscow, so we understand that none of the journalists probably received such honors, he was literally carried around like a written off bag, and the key story is not even what putin said in the carlson interview, the key story is why this representative of bourgeois imperialist journalism was so gently perceived in moscow and... what he could bring, so we understand that carlson is not carlson himself, carlson is a person
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extremely close to one of the candidates, of the main candidates for the position of president of the united states, and it is possible that he could even occupy a very high position in the event of trump's victory. what can i say here, the visit is apparently unexpected, a picture of him in the bolshoi theater appeared in the kremlin public in a telegram, you know, this is a tradition from soviet times. to honor guests with space, ballet and such, so it was no coincidence that he ended up there with fsb operatives, i think he may or may not have known, but he must have been escorted. there was an escort in the big theater, and even then it was clear that he had arrived. putin gave this interview, as if sending a message to trump, that it is publicly heard that we are ready to negotiate, we cannot negotiate with this administration, they do not hear us, we want to negotiate with someone new, who will become... the oval office in january 2025, that we are ready to cooperate with america, and
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that there is a mutual understanding with america, it can also be achieved with the next administration and so on, but the price of the question is ukraine, then we are ready to negotiate. this is, if briefly and summed up the main leitmotif of the interview that carlson showed. now, regarding the personality of carlson himself. you know that there are some reports in the american press that trump is considering it. as one of the candidates for the nomination for the post of vice president from the republican party , and midesantis was named, although it seems that trump himself did not have a relationship with desantis, others were named, therefore , to claim that carlson cannot be in the post of vice president, i personally i do not believe that he will become a candidate for vice president and vice president trump, but besides that, if the american press writes about it, it is not accidental, especially since the connections of carlson, who is... among journalists, since the days of trump's fox news, are quite obvious, and what could he do after
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that take secretly to trump, all the same , that moscow is ready to cooperate, i think that trump and his entourage already have channels, for that you do not need a publicly confirmed carlson to conduct something there specifically, i think that there are opportunities for exchange, for sure, but here an important public element. on the other hand, the weight of this carlson, he has an account on youtube. he has already left fox news, he has 800 or 900 thousand followers there, i'm afraid to lie. yes, of course, some of his videos have 2-3 million views. and with putin, it will be a huge view. it can be expected that the teasers with the speech, which he showed for free with free access to the interview with putin, have already been viewed by almost 10 million. that is, the interview with putin will also have so many views. and how is carlson articulated? what was in the pockets
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of carlson, who was going to putin, and what did he stuff, some information baggage or some an information package, he stuffed it into his bosom when he returned to trump, here is the key story, here are the signals that are silent, unarticulated publicly, i will say right away, i think it is about putin. a businessman, moreover, semi-criminal , semi-eccentric, a person who is either a casino, or he has exactly this psychology, the psychology of a woman, or beauty contests, and not some warren buffett, who is always about one thing. the lyubertsy developer, whether it's luzhnikovsky or sonzevskyi, you understand, when there are beauty contests, a little bit of cinema, it's all some kind of mass media. he probably thinks like this: listen, don't negotiate, you get 20% of ukraine, we take
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80, great business, you get a bare 20%, it's territories and all preferences related to access to the sea, some kind of new geopolitical situation for you, putin doesn't want 20%, he wants 100%, that's important to understand, and that's where the hope is that even if trump wins the election, they won't come to an agreement, because putin doesn't want 20%. moreover, 100% of ukraine is not enough for him. his goal is what was stated in his memorandum in december 2021. the entire former eastern bloc. militarization of the borders of may 1997 before nato membership of these countries. that's what he's going to push for, and the hope is that they don't end up making a deal, because for trump it was a concession on air trade. i think that putin can now maneuver without revealing all his
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cards. he wants the political atmosphere in the united states to change. the establishment or in power that trump can come to in order to start talking to him at all. secondary there are sanctions, and oil, and embargoes, and the removal of its status a war criminal, this is all putin wants, of course, and he will make these demands, it goes without saying, we understand it, but it is only a derivative of the main demand that he wants all of ukraine. he will never be satisfied with the fact that he kept 20%, and 80% will go to... nato and the european union. this is important to understand. they will never agree on this, even with such a convenient negotiating partner for him as trump. in my personal opinion, trump knows where to stop, also because such is the task of positions is not acceptable for the american elite, for the american doctrine, for everything that the united states has done in the last 30-35
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years after the fall of communism, victory in the cold war, etc. therefore, in fact, carlson can... only make a kind of framework offer , an invitation to the so-called, behind which he does not even hide, even in this interview, maybe somewhere out of sight, out of the interview, out of the frame, it was about that : no need to start a dialogue, no need to agree, we can agree on everything, i am inclined to everything, i am ready for everything, that is, in such using putin's words, he could convey something to trump. we hope that the administration of the current, current president... it will be able to implement what was voiced or promised, but we see that everything somehow slips again and again, in your opinion, what are the possible undercurrents, right? well, on the one hand, we understand that the republicans, they are for ukraine, yes, but in fact we see that they cannot come to an agreement, and everyone is starting to talk about this unfortunate border with mexico, yes,
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which has also gained importance, i don't know, well, to taiwan itself, it turns out like this... but this cannot be considered outside the context of elections. elections in america are a determining factor for which the republicans definitely use the situation, perhaps pressure on the democratic administration, biden himself, on his entourage in order to achieve maximum benefit for themselves in the elections. because the dispute about the border, about illegal migrants, by the way, the biden administration is resisting, saying to let 5,000 migrants a day, and the republicans say. 10 now enter and insist that no person at all, which looks quite logical and correct from the outside the same republicans, but the problem is why it is associated with ukraine, why it is interconnected with international issues, which, to put it mildly, is not part of the american agenda at all. the ukrainian issue does not affect taxes, or migrants, or
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health care reform in the united states, or anything. simply cynical american politics, whether we like it or not, is largely determined by the nomination of trump, because if nikki haley were nominated, this problem would not be would be, if she had a high rating and was the first applicant, then most likely such a situation would not have arisen. us senators, republicans who influence the issue, depend on trump's opinion, they seek his re-election, and the republican electorate largely supports him. there the price of the question is six republicans who constantly torture the rest and the head of the speaker of the house of representatives , johnson. six people who can throw their votes into the balance, taking into account the democratic votes, and re-elect speaker johnson. it it is not profitable for him, therefore he slows down the inclusion of the issue on the agenda. we will see how it
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ends, we do not decide in advance, we will watch, but this blocking is caused precisely by the actions of rabid supporters. trump with the help of republican congressmen, the fact remains, somehow it turns out that some small group sets its own conditions for the republican majority, which means that it is beneficial to this deep, perhaps deep state, and perhaps it also somehow fits, i don’t know, into the program regarding ukraine , well, i would not like to be so much for a pessimistic conspiracy theorist, well , it's such a strange coincidence, you know, when... americans can't find money and promises, promises, promises. for the democratic administration, this is also a very profitable moment, because president biden has an opportunity outside of the decision of congress. to have weapons and military aid first of all. there is such a possibility, bypassing congress with his decisions on the pentagon budget, etc., but what does he say? he says: no, we will not
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do this, let all the responsibility be on the republicans. if they refuse allocate these 60 billion, let them be responsible for everything. that is, this is some kind of game on the part of the democrats. we know that within a democratic administration there is a line directed at coercion. of ukraine to negotiations with moscow through concessions, to give up this 20% of the territory, to receive it is not yet known what, there are even no parameters of possible negotiations with moscow that would be beneficial to ukraine, we do not know, because the previous conditions for the liberation of the occupied territories are rejected from the threshold and moscow, and in general the west also reacts calmly to this ultimatum from moscow. therefore, yes, it can be assumed that this is a very convenient position for the democrats and for biden. after which he will say: i'm ready to help, i've even made concessions on the borders, i'm ready for a fence on the mexican border, but they don't want it, you see how
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the republicans behave in the ultimate manner, so for some part of biden's entourage, giving him additional points, it is advantageous to present it as if the problem is only with the republicans, here, of course, the pattern of the game is more complicated, and the conclusion is clear: ukraine has become a hostage of the election campaign in the united states and until november , it will probably all be this way. we're already in february, there's at least another six months to go, but sooner or later it has to end. well, in any case , putin is going to visit his esteemed partner erdogan in the near future. well , we understand that syria, libya, the red sea are all understandable stories, but for putin to go personally, it means that he must bring something, hear something and... get something. i believe that putin is going to negotiate with two countries. before that he was in saudi arabia, will now go to turkey
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to choose or propose a format for talks on ukraine, or the istanbul one, which was already held, or the jidi summit, which took place in august last year and was hosted by saudi arabia, and there they held talks with trump as the future president. it will already be in november. if suddenly the election ends with his victory. by january 20, 2025, he will already be inaugurated and will be ready to hold negotiations with him, and perhaps, on the platform, of course , no one will go to moscow or washington, maybe to become istanbul, jeddah or riyadh, this is the global south, it can accept, and not some kind of geneva, as it was with biden. it seems to me that putin is interested in the support of such an idea from the global south, the initiators of the summit in jeddah, saudi arabia and other countries. and the istanbul format was already in place in 2022, and putin now appeals to it, says: "you fools, you didn't agree with us then." so, i can well assume that in addition to other issues
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related to the relations between turkey and moscow, erdogan and putin, this will be a priority resumption of negotiations on their site on favorable terms for putin. it seems to me that he will agree on this. speaking of putin's framework visions and proposals. we remember how many throwaways there were dedicated to the istanbul format, throwaways, i don't know, careless wording , etc. now we understand that it was not his decision, not his vision, he simply could not take a collective action such, there the exit from istanbul, there the exit from the istanbul agreements was a combined decision, it really had an impact. in buch on the readiness of the event at that moment in the spring of 22 to supply weapons in significant quantities so that ukraine could defend itself, and the positions of ukrainian society were taken into account.
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ukrainian society did not want any agreements through concessions. plus , it was clear that the success against which these negotiations began. moskovskiy, when they hit ukraine on february 24 and approached the kyiv region. turned out to be imaginary, that is the opportunity to implement this plan was very small, because in general the kyiv region was protected and moscow's losses were huge, besides, they were not ready, the plan provided for three days or seven days, maybe a month, that is, a short period, a blitz-krieg, he suffocated and no one was ready for a continuation in the form of a blitzkrieg. it was necessary to retreat, to regroup. and start a long, long war, which is happening now. you know, i think it wasn't some kind of wrong decision, the refusal to
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negotiate then. the problem is not that ukraine withdrew from the negotiations. the west had other intentions then, and the fact that the west does not fulfill its obligations, let's say, frankly, regarding the supply of such weapons that it promised. it was not ukraine that asked the west to promise to supply these weapons within the framework of ramstein, the big seven, two nato summits already. i remember when i predicted that the war could end by 2024. and it happened against the background of the successful kharkiv operation, the liberation of kherson, and there were promises that we would provide missiles to the attacks almost tomorrow, slitzkas and the rest to finish this case on the battlefield, but nothing happened, they did not provide anything. the scandal at the end of the winter of 2023, when...
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the documents were opened and it turned out that the supply of these promised weapons, both tanks and the rest, is generally very slow, and that the offensive will not start in march, april, or may , because it is simply understaffed, undertrained soldiers of the ukrainian army, as promised in the right amount, under-provided weapons, of course, if you do not fulfill your obligations, then what is there to talk about? therefore, this is not a problem now only ukraine can be blamed, they say that their counteroffensive choked, or rather, did not fulfill the tasks that were set before it. and they fulfilled all their obligations so that ukraine would implement all these plans.
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did not give in to this pressure, putin would not have achieved anything, nothing, this is solely due to the weakness of the west caused by the elections, in which even the democratic current administration is forced to maneuver and not make sharp movements , in order to pass the election period with a relatively calm attitude of the voters, without giving reasons to sharpen the criticism of on the part of trump and the republicans, so the negotiations will resume only under a new administration, under
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the previous one for this. has no chance, do you think, will fit into putin's agenda of russian self-reappointments, this is the story with the war, and how willing they will be, so to speak, to go all the way in what is called an existential war. it is not the voters' votes that are important to putin, he himself determines how many votes he will receive, moods are important to him, it is important to him that people do not riot... this is really important to putin, public sentiments , they have nothing to do with denying it is ridiculous, and he monitors the results of the elections, even if you imagine that 90% are against putin, putin would not give up power, he secured the result with bayonets and defended it, he would write , that he has 90%, and would not allow people to come out and be outraged by this violation, substitution or
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falsity'. that is, that in no case should a serious, irreconcilable contradiction arise. the real picture cannot be replaced only by virtual, invented elections and their results. can not. people still have maintain loyalty. he watches over it. war is definitely a stimulant. people began to live worse, someone is sent to the front. someone is in the army, someone got scared and left, relocated outside of russia and wants to return, etc., i.e. a lot of problems related to the war, and how else? putin cannot take a break, he is now, as forbes writes, i read this article, preparing for an offensive in the kharkiv region, it is possible that this is an attack and a pso, perhaps the actions of the russian army of the kremlin, precisely such as to provoke expectations of an invasion from belgorod, for example, kharkiv region
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or kupyansk, it doesn't matter. they say that they concentrated 500 ta' on kupen.

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