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dales necessarily follow any enthusiasm, well, from my point of view, you just don't need to get very excited, study the topic, but in our case, in the case of this scandal with sign language, i think that the devil will break his head there, because the discussions are incredible, so it started with hearing-impaired people on social media too, they started reading all these great reviews from people without hearing impairments, and they started... saying listen, we're nothing we understand that this kateryna is translating for us that you admire the fact that she is like this, well, she dances coolly, she dances coolly, she shows coolly, she is cool, emotional, but in general we hardly understand a single word of what she shows us, so they say the translation is bad, and a lot there were also videos recorded on various social networks, let's listen to one of these girls, there the girl recorded a video explaining what was wrong. my experience
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of performing songs in sign language is 12 years, and when i first saw my grandfather performing songs in sign language, i was shocked and i the reaction of the deaf to such a situation is completely understandable. the translator played the emotion perfectly, but she translated the song terribly. you can say that she did not even translate. everyone is in shock , because... how come, we're excited here, and you tell us that it's a bad translation, how can it be, at first everyone started denying it, and then, well, really, we were fooled like that , and the application was also submitted by the ukrainian society of the deaf, and there was also a whole, a whole series of just and unjust accusations, but if we talk about societies.
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then they said the following: the sad thing about this story is that, in an effort to do a supposedly good deed, the organizers did not take into account whether the material would be presented comfortably for people who are deaf, so today we receive feedback of disappointment, but in the end, after this statement such comments began that, in general, why do you call yourself a society of the deaf, in general, the word deaf is not correct for hearing impairment. battles followed, why hearing impairment, and not hearing impairment, because hearing impairment is also contemptible, one must say a violation, well, that is, you understand, this question of inclusiveness is raised in our country, but this whole educational activity has not been going on for so long, so indeed , a claim also appeared against olga bunaziv almost immediately, because people found and went to her instagram in the saved highlights, well, these are such videos... they saw a whole series of videos in defense
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of the russian church in ukraine, it turned out that olga, a fan of this church, she is very disappointed there, as she says, by the attacks there to the kyiv-pechersk lavra, and all this also stirred people up, and in the end, if we continue to talk about how this developed, well , i won't say that it's a scandal, it's such stormy discussions that they have reached what they started. hearing-impaired people discussing among themselves, and it was extremely interesting to watch, because for people who are hearing, yes, it's a whole new world, and the hearing-impaired people, well, they split up by themselves, because some of them started saying, that we need a direct translation, that is, we want to look at the translator and have her translate for us told us the meaning of the words, but kateryna did not tell us the meaning of the words and... others say that
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it is just this kind of translation, there in sign language, i'm sorry if i say something incorrectly, that this is a translation that does not translate words, but conveys to people the very emotion, the very melody of the song, the very mood of the song, because sometimes it's more important than the words, besides, if we remember some different songs, well , for sure, each of you has a whole series of songs on... maybe loved ones, when you can't make out the words, that's me, by the way, when i was listening national selection for eurovision, the same song by alyona alyona and jerry hale, far from all the words, i understood what the girls were singing, so here's another argument that appeared in these in social networks, and here's kateryna zabotkina, she's not the only one i once commented on my translation, my style of translation, i really liked it. that's how she commented,
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because she didn't, according to our old habit, she didn't talk about the fact that everyone hates me, everyone hates me, i'm such an unfortunate victim, no, she was completely calm. glavkom, for example, i have already quoted, for example, there is ruslany, shidi ridi dana, how to show it , you can’t translate it literally, you need to convey the essence, you understand, everyone has a place to learn, and so do i, i absolutely do not claim that i can do everything, my translation is uniquely correct and it cannot be otherwise, the goal in itself is not to see yourself on the air of the eurovision song contest, the big goal is to show... people who cannot hear the beauty of ukrainian music, to popularize sign language, this is the most important thing, and i think that it is precisely with such comments, calm, balanced , kateryna once again aroused sympathy for herself, explained hers point of view, and i still make sure once again
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that inclusiveness is a very complex issue, and inclusiveness should of course be talked about by people who... have, for example, some kind of disability, because it is they who know best, how are they doing, because we have a whole, you know, a number of these issues that relate to, well, for example, people in wheelchairs or wheelchairs, again, where's the discussion, how better to say, well, definitely not in wheelchairs, on you can't talk to carts, that's for sure, you have to remember it, and a lot of it people also say, and why can't this be done, they've been saying that all their lives, well, imagine that you, what you... are moving around in a chair, you're an adult, self-sufficient, professional, and they tell you that you're moving around in a wheelchair, like , baby, it's so derogatory , it's such a shade in this word, and therefore a wheelchair or a chair, a wheelchair, i don't know
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any history, but i lead to the fact that i have many acquaintances who move on the chairs and they constantly complain about pantos, and someone tells them, but you already... have become you don’t agree, everything is wrong, here really, when they show that a pantus is made without consideration, without consultations, which is impossible to drive into, for example, or which is inconvenient, which is difficult to move on, of course, this is all important, and you need to take it into account, now we see footage from a youtube channel that is now being launched, it is hosted by oleksandr teren, he is a military officer, who, in fact, he has two prostheses, and he started a show in which, with various celebrities, he will travel and check public space on inclusivity we already had a show like that, there on tv in toronto, there was already something similar,
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and here, i think this format is very cool, and there are a lot of discoveries for people who move on their own two, a lot of discoveries. how uncomfortable it is for people , for example, with prostheses, with crutches on chairs, how uncomfortable it is for them to move around , how much they constantly need some kind of help, it's, well, when you get on the subway, you just want to get off and get in the direction you need to go go, and don't call someone there, don't call someone to get you, lowered, everything else, it's called the youtube channel dump legs or all include. i already like this kind of self-irony and humor , this is exactly what is needed, and also about eurovision, i will say that there is one more such scandal that we should deal with, the fact is that it became known from israel, that there is a girl called
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eden golan, i think i said the accents correctly, and here is eden gollan, oh, it's not her, it's masha kondratenko, our eden golan is completely different, and... the fact is that she performed in the occupied crimea in 2016 at the festival new wave, новая волна, she first lived in israel, then she and her parents did not move to russia, where she lived there for 13 years, she went to various shows there, at the same time for children, and finally in 2022 they moved back to israel, to things, with such, such arguments... she now publicly says that there was a lot of anti-semitism in russia and there was a very bad atmosphere, they did not feel at home there, and therefore they moved back to israel, well, in 22, when many russians left, and now eden golan will represent eurovision, will represent israel at the eurovision
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song contest, well, this is also such a difficult topic, you know, israel is a country with which we should probably not create some scandals, here we will somehow have to decide something, somehow... somehow communicate, well now we are moving to such a very cool event, a very cool discussion, which i really liked in show business, i don't remember when we had such an interesting promotional campaign, and not some banal promotional campaign based on some or scandal or something , actually something creative. so, i'll just say what the point is, and then i'll explain: there are two singers, klaudia petrovna and masha kondratenko. and so, throughout the whole week , all social networks, especially instagram and twitter, discussed the terrible. the question is whether it is the same person or not, oh my god, how did it turn out that it could be the same
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person. why? because now you are seeing footage from the award from the lirum publication. the award is called zorypad of releases, and the state for the debut of the year announced that this claudia won petrovna, and a completely different singer, masha kondrotenko, comes to pick up the award, and everyone is shocked. they explain. that's why everyone is in shock, who is masha kondratenko? well, i think that many of you friends know who one and two are, but i will explain again for those who do not know, so masha kondratenko, now we can show a video with her, she is a performer of such very, very controversial songs that on the one hand , they are incredibly popular, they get a lot of different views on youtube, but other people who are not fans of kondratenko, they are... terrible they get nervous when they hear her songs, for example , she sang vanka ustanka,
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she has such a song, or the bear has balalaikas, or something else, and they make fun of her a lot, they say that the songs are completely stupid, she answers jokingly and ironically herself, over detractors, but in one word, she is a singer who is popular, but at the same time has an image. er, the one who sings not very, let's say, quality songs, well, i personally have a complaint against her not even in this, quality, low-quality songs, well, mass brands always needed, but i have a complaint about the fact that she has tracks that were included in this big such music campaign to stir up incredible expectations in 2013 about the fact that already in august ... buying all the suitcases, new bathing suits , because we will go to yalta, because crimea is being de-occupied, remember, we
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were promised all this, and many of the musicians, i don't know on what ground, whether of their own will, or as they say, some of these musicians worked for the president's office, there are rumors like that too, i'll say it's about a song fortress bahmud, you can often hear exactly this version, and masha kondratenko was... on one of those performers who already somewhere, i don't remember when, already somewhere at the beginning of summer or at the end of spring, already promised with their songs that we would we are in the crimea, we are getting ready , let's listen, the song is called lyuli-lyuli, you are ready to return the crimean stars, you are ready, because your thoughts are already near the sea, you are ready to return the crimea. well, here is such a song, there were
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many, many such songs, and here is such and such a writer, my god, such a singer, who is she klavdia petrovna, this is a completely different version of music, this is also her popular music, but it is of much higher quality, there are wonderful lyrics, we can now watch excerpts from her music videos, and you will see... what in none of these videos there is no direct klaudia petrovna herself, because no one knows what she looks like, who she is, this is one of those strategies that are also popular, in general, in art, in show business, when there is some performer or performer, and this is such incognito, that is, it is not shown who it is, it often works very well for people i like the mystery of going there to find out who it is, who it is. here we will talk about the most striking examples, but klavdia petrovna is such a
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mysterious incognito singer. her songs were quoted, for example, olena zelenska, this is one of her most famous songs, it's probably called i'm happy, and when doctors say i'm depressed, my mother says i'm lazy, let's listen to it. doctors say it's depression, mom says i'm lazy. what a repression, everywhere the sun is pouring down on me, everywhere the sun is pouring down on me, everywhere the sun was with me, everywhere the sun was angry with me, but i... klaudia petrovna is signed on instagram, for example, on the label visible, which is managed by iryna horova, well, it is clear that this is such a production project on the one hand, but it is of high quality pop project, and well, i always, i always like when such projects appear, massive ones that get a lot of
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translations, but they are still of sufficient quality, and klaudia petrovna wants... a producer project, but she keeps as it seems to me, my individuality, so what, after all this, there was a huge discussion, just a flurry, people debated about whether she is or not, whether it is one person or not one person, well, because just imagine, it turns out that the singer of some stupid songs and a singer who performs very cool songs, it is all one and the same person, or not one and the same person, but where is the right? and we don't know the truth, and everyone wants to express themselves, why this pr guy is cool, because he provokes further discussions and begins to live his own life and falls like this such a group, and what i liked most was that there were no direct discussions there, it was just discussions, people just shared their observations, i know that there are many
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translators there, or people who are engaged in diction or something else there, they started to explain . everyone has his own opinion, with his own arguments, is this person the same or not, this person is one and the same, by the way, if you are more interested in cinema, i have such an example, imagine if you were told that valentyn vasinovych films there oksana bayrak, you would have one probably a shock, and well, in the end, towards the end of this discussion, after all, people began to lean more towards the fact that it is not the same person, although many found it ... difficult to let go of this legend, but still, if we let's look at how they comment on all this in the music media, the journalists who deal with it, well, for example, the newspaper "shush" conducted such a small investigation, and they investigated tiktok and they said that in fact klavdia petrovna is a singer who is 18 years old, her name is solomiya opryshko, they
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found recordings of a singer who it's called... sings together with another such blonde whose voice is very similar to claudia pitrimna and they say it's her, well, let 's listen with you at night, you love me, don't be silent, everything will be fine, only the wind, don't scare me, don't scare me. and i will sleep with you at night, you don't want me to be silent, everything will be fine. why i like all this discussion, even taking into account that it is such a pr strategy, because it attracts even more people to
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ukrainian music, forces us to discuss ukrainian music, ukrainian musicians more and more. discuss around them, and most importantly, if we even somehow toxically talk about it, for example, if in the context of the eurovision, then these discussions were very friendly and very like that, well, more debatable, and people began to delve into everything themselves, study these tiktoks, study all instagrams , to conduct detective stories, that is, it immerses us more and more precisely in something ukrainian. in such a light, in such an entertaining format, when everyone is interested in discussing their own, and when we all already forget about this russian music, is there anyone still on it sitting, yes, but still we concentrate more and more on something of ours , we study our artists, because of this situation, people who did not know masha kontratenko, did not know
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klaudia support, found out about them, went, listened, they liked them, well, this is very cool, i just want to remind you, friends, about anonymous performers, anonymous artists, it always works very well, but of course, if these musicians, artists or anyone else, they are talented, but to reinforce the talent is precisely this mystery , very cool, very we can always profitably remember banksy for example, how long has this banksy been around for years, and well, we still don't know enough. but who it is, there are various guesses, one of the most popular is that it is one of the members of the messy attack band, but it is not yet certain, we do not know whether it is one person or many people, remember banksy. .. came to us in ukraine after the deoccupation of kyiv, he drew a lot of graffiti, i, since i live in bucha, and all these graffiti
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are around me, yes, well, he did not go to bucha, yes, he did not draw anything, but it is possible was to go to gorenka, irpin, borodyanka, and there, if you went there, you could see how well these graffiti are protected here, and especially in borodyanka, there is an alarm system. they made such a whole cube there so that, god forbid, nothing would be damaged there, well , everyone is shaking on this banksy, and well , it’s very cool, there is a daft punk band, well, we are, we know who its members are, but on at the beginning , they perform like this in helmets, and many who still like this mystery, well , i want to remind you once again about masha kondratenko, specifically about her self-irony, i am very impressed, as such, well... the self-irony, self-criticism of our translator kateryna zabotkino, who reacted very coolly to all this wave of criticism towards her and was able to explain her position, yes,
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because when you speak calmly, and not shout that there are haters around, then you can simply explain what you think and convince people that you are right. also, if we are talking about masha kondratenko, then despite the fact that she receives a lot of criticism for her stupidity. songs, it is very often mocks and laughs at herself and her detractors, let's watch one of the videos she has on tiktok. hello, today i have the premiere of a song, now i will play it for passers-by, go, hello, you are a balalaika, yes, it is you, vanka, well, what do you want, today i have the premiere of a song, about samovars, about kakoshi, you, you at all, i looked at the comments, i am writing to you. don't sing, you're singing, well , you don't care what you're looking at, i don't understand what's on your mind, we're men, the subway, you look, look, the men of the subway
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they make you get up, sing your gullivers, you know what i'm talking about, well, what's the point, while the camera is filming, you'd better apologize, say something to them, and you watch her, you understand, and you do reviews with her, and she, what she and she thinks she and she isn't talented and you have to tell her that? you can take a photo, you can , what do you think, my photo with you is necessary, friends, you know, this, well, i assure you once again that this is the best way to protect yourself from ill-wishers, from any criticism that you may consider unconstructive, no to speak seriously, but then to make fun of it, because everything that this guy just said is all match, kondratenko is written in various social networks, in various comments, that you are not talented, that you can't sing there, what about you, you listen to her songs, do her reviews, she laughs at this and that, and this seems to me to be the most healthy reaction,
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although in some videos she still says that she is upset by this whole wave, she sometimes feels very bad from etc. and so criticized, but on the other hand , i also really like that in many of my interviews she said that she is fully aware that her songs are, well, to put it mildly ... high art, she writes them just for the sake of the fan, just for the sake of laughing, well, personally, her songs are not very funny to me, anyway i i think they're a little silly, but at the end of the day, if a person realizes, well, that he's not creating some kind of genius, that he's writing music to entertain others, that there's so that kids can sing these songs, because that's all about vanka ustanka is really a very popular song among small children and therefore i think that this is just a very good story and also a very good story that at least two ukrainian singers became even more popular because
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