everything that we had when the national elections began. well, let's start with eurovision, but i, my friends, will not focus on the songs of alona alona and jerry hale, because, well, you know, i haven't, uh, well, let's just say, been in a debate for a long time, who is better off going, whether the choice was right or not, because after all, music is very subjective, and always, remember, every time... we chose a participant or eurovision contestants, someone always didn't like something, but as it was repeatedly noted, for example, on twitter, in every case, when our girls, in general, our contestants go to eurovision directly, everyone starts rooting for them, and i would also like to note one thing here: i dream, when we finally reach that level, i i think we are already close to it, when even if our members... take 10th, 15th, 20th

place, even the last one, we will still support them, because if you noticed, that's what they do a lot of people in different countries, especially we always pay attention to britain, who constantly occupy some places there the last places, but all the same, the participants react very well to it, and no one there particularly hates them. so we're going to focus with you today, friends, specifically on sign language, and because it's a very good thing from my point of view, and the fact that we finally had such a big show translated into sign language, and with that we got a whole bunch of discussions , well , first of all, it all started with the fact that we understood, well, many of us understood, that it is not sign language, it is fu, it is not possible to say that, never again. well, there is a big explanation

is, in short, it is contempt for people who translate and for people with hearing impairment, it was in the soviet tradition that this word was a deaf person, as if it were some kind of inferior translation, and sign language and sign language, as it turned out for many, these concepts differ from each other, well, and most importantly, many people really discovered such a phenomenon as song translations, i also discovered it completely. recently, although earlier than these natsvitbori, because the last two music festivals we had were muzvar and megago music awards, they were also translated into sign language, and immediately when you are on the stage, well , sitting in the hall and on the stage you see interpreters who also translate all these songs so emotionally, well, it is certainly impressive, and when you do not even know that such a phenomenon exists , then it's terrible. it's interesting

, so we see two translators at the national selections, kateryna zabotkina and olga bunaziv, who really became superstars during the national selections, especially kateryna zabotkina, of course, because she translated songs, and look how energetic she was, how she she did everything perfectly, and some of the most popular posts were in almost all social networks, let's spit on these musicians, let's just send kateryna to eurovision. she will probably win for sure, but we can't have everything going well, because scandals necessarily follow any enthusiasm, well , from my point of view, you just don't need to get very enthusiastic, study the topic, but in our case, in the case of this scandal with sign language, i think there will be a hell of a lot of trouble there, because the discussions are incredible, so it started with the fact that people also socialized...

who are hearing impaired, they started reading all these exciting reviews from people who are not hearing impaired, and started saying, listen, we don't understand anything that this kateryna is translating for us, that you admire the fact that she is like this, well , she dances coolly, she dances coolly, she shows coolly, she is cool, emotional, but we hardly understand a single word of what she shows us, so they say the translation is bad, and very there were many videos recorded in various social networks, let's... listen to one of them such girls, there the girl recorded a video, which explained, and what's wrong? my experience of performing songs in sign language is 12 years, and when i first saw my grandfather performing songs in sign language, i was shocked and i completely understood the reaction of deaf people to such a situation, the interpreter perfectly played the emotion, but... translated the song fluently, you can say

that she didn't even translate, everyone is shocked, because, well, how is it, we are fascinated here, and you tell us... that it is a bad translation, how can this be? everyone started at first to deny it, and then, well, really, that we were fooled like that. and the application was also submitted by the ukrainian society of the deaf, and there was also a whole, and these whole series of just and unjust accusations, but if we talk about the society, then they said the following: the sad thing in this story is that... striving to do a supposedly good deed, the organizers did not take into account whether the material would be presented comfortably for people who are deaf, so today we receive feedback of disappointment, but in the end, after this statements began with such comments that, in general

, why are you called a society of the deaf, in general, the word deaf is not correct with hearing impairments, then there were battles, why hearing impairments, and not hearing impairments, because impairments... a servant is also contemptuously , we must say violation, well, that is, you understand, this question of inclusiveness is raised in our country , but all this educational activity has not been going on for so long, that is why there are really many disputes, firstly, and secondly, well, there are many such reactions, you know, how people did not know something, and here it turns out that they, for example, all our lives we spoke incorrectly, for example, a disabled person spoke incorrectly , how is it, we spoke all our lives, here it turns out that not, deaf people spoke all their lives, here deaf people do not, it turns out that it is wrong, it is necessary with hearing impairments, and why is this violation correct, and vices are incorrect and offensive, like this is offensive and this is offensive, and it's all just floating around in our social network these days, but

i think it's very good, because we 're just finding out those things, how right , how wrong, those which, in principle, would have been a long time ago we already had to find out in order to... use some correct words that are non-offensive in some of our public spaces, well, we can also look at our translators once again in that they recorded many videos on instagram, by the way, also a claim and to olga bunaziv appeared almost immediately, because people found and went to her instagram in the saved highlights, well, these are such videos, they saw a whole series of videos in defense of the russian... church in ukraine, it turned out that olga, a fan of this church , she is very disappointed there, how she says, there were attacks on the kyiv-pochersk lavra, and all this also stirred people up, and in the end, if we continue to talk about how this developed, well, i won't say that it's

a scandal, it was such stormy discussions that it reached the point that people with hearing impairment began to discuss among themselves. and it was extremely interesting to watch, because for people who are hearing, yes, it's a whole new world, and people with hearing impairments, well, they divided themselves, because some people started saying that we need a direct translation, that is, we we want to look at the translator and for her to tell us the meaning of the words, but kateryna did not tell us the meaning of the words, others say that it is just this kind of translation there... in sign language, i'm sorry if i say something incorrectly, that this is a translation that does not translate words, and conveys to people the very emotion, the very melody of the song, the very mood of the song, because sometimes it is more important than the words, besides, if we remember some

different songs, then for sure each of you has a whole series of songs, maybe even favorites when you can't make out the words, by the way... when i was listening to the national selection on eurovision, the same song by alyona alyona and jerry hale, far from all the words, i understood what the girls were singing, so here is another argument, well, it appeared in these in social networks, and here is kateryna zabotkina herself, she commented more than once her translation, her style of translation, i really liked the way she commented, because she did not, our old habit, did not talk about the fact that everyone hates me, everyone hates me, i am such an unfortunate victim, no, she explained completely calmly, i want to quote it, for example, in a comment to the headmaster, she gave, to the headmaster, for example , i have already quoted this, for example, ruslana has, shidi

ridi dana, how to show it, you can’t translate it literally, you need to convey the essence , you understand, everyone has a place to learn, and so do i, i i absolutely do not claim that i... can do it, my translation is the only correct one and it cannot be otherwise. the goal in itself is not to see yourself on the air of eurovision. the big goal is to show people who cannot hear the beauty of ukrainian music, to popularize it. sign language is the main thing, and i think that with such comments, calm, balanced, kateryna once again evoked sympathy for me , explained her point of view, and i am still convinced once again that inclusiveness is a very difficult issue, and inclusiveness should be talked about by people who have, for example, some kind of disability, so what exactly are they better off with... how are they doing, because we have a whole, you know, a number of these issues that relate to, well, for example, people

in wheelchairs or wheelchairs, again, the debate, what's the best way to say , well, definitely not on carts, you can't talk on carts you can, of course, you need to remember it, and many people also say, why can't it , they have been saying that all their lives, well , imagine that you, that you move around in a chair, you are an adult, self-sufficient. a professional and they tell you that you move around in a wheelchair, like, well, a child, it's such a derogatory , some kind of shade in this word, and that's why a wheelchair, or a chair, a wheelchair, i don't know, any story, but i leading to the fact that i have many acquaintances who move around on chairs and they constantly they complain about pantos, and someone tells them: you already got it, you won’t like it, everything is wrong, here really, when they show... that pantos are made without consideration, without consultations, which cannot be visited, for example, or which

uncomfortable, on which it is difficult to move, of course, this is all important , and it must be taken into account, but now we see footage from the youtube channel, which is now being launched, it is hosted by oleksandr teren, he is a military man, a serviceman, who actually has two prostheses. and he started the show, c which he will travel with various celebrities and check the public space for inclusiveness. we already had a show like that, there on tv toronto, there was already something similar, and here, i think this format is very cool, and there is a lot of discovery for people who move around on their two, a lot of discovery, and how uncomfortable people , for example, with prostheses, with crutches, in chairs, how inconvenient it is for them to move,

how much they constantly need some kind of help, so when you enter the subway, you just want to get off and sit on that side, which you have to go to, and don't call someone there, don't call someone to pick you up, drop you off, all that other stuff, it's called the youtube channel dump legs or all inclusive, i already like this kind of self-irony and humor, it's... just that , what is needed and about the eurovision song contest, i will say that it is another such scandal that we still have to deal with. the fact is that it became known from israel that a girl named eden golan is going , i think i said the accents correctly, and here is eden golan, oh, it's not her, it's masha kondratenko, eden golan, she is completely different, the fact is that she performed in... occupied crimea in 2016 at the new wave novaya volna festival, she first lived in

israel, then she and her parents did not move to russia, where she lived there for 13 years, she went to various shows there, together with children, and eventually in 2022 they moved back to israel, by the way, with such and such arguments, now she publicly says that there was a lot of anti-semitism in russia. well , the atmosphere was very bad, they didn't feel at home there, and that's why they moved back to israel, well, in the 22nd year, when many of the russians left, and now eden golan will represent eurovision, will represent israel at eurovision, well, it is also so difficult here, you know the topic, israel is a country with which, for sure, we , that it is not necessary to create any scandals, we will somehow have to decide something, somehow communicate, well , now we are moving on to... such a very cool event, a very cool discussion, which i really liked in show business, i don't

remember when we had such an interesting time promotional campaign, not a banal promotional campaign based on some scandal or something, actually something creative, so i'll just say what the point is, and then i'll explain: there are two singers, klaudia petrovna and masha kondratenko. and so , throughout the week, in all social networks, especially on instagram, on twitter, they discussed a terrible question: is this one and the same person or not, oh my god? as it turned out, it could be one and the same person. why? that's why you're now seeing footage from the lirum edition of the award. the award is called starfall of releases. and the state for the debut of the year announced that this klaudia petrovna won. and a completely different singer, masha kondratenko, comes to pick up the award. and everyone

is in shock. i explain why everyone is in shock. who is masha kondratenko? well, i think so. that many of you friends know who one and the other are, but i will explain once again for those who do not know, so masha kondratenko, now we can show a video with her, she is the performer of such very, very controversial songs, which on the one hand are incredibly popular , are gaining a lot on youtube many different re-views, but other people who are not fans, but kondratenko, they get terribly nervous when they hear her songs, for example, she... sang vanka ustanka, she has such a song, or balalaika bears, or something else -anything, and a lot of people make fun of her, they say that the songs are absolutely stupid, she in response jokes and ironizes herself, the detractors, but in a word, she is a singer who is popular,

but at the same time has the image of one who sings not very well, let's say yes, quality songs, well, i have them too personally, i don't even have a complaint about her, quality, low-quality songs, well, the mass market is always needed, but i have a complaint about the fact that she has tracks that were included in this big such musical campaign to stir up incredible expectations in 2013 , due to the fact that already in august we are buying all the suitcases, new bathing suits, because we will go to... after all, crimea is being de-occupied, remember, we were promised all this, and many of the musicians, i don't know on what ground , or of their own free will, or as they say, some of these musicians worked for the president's office, there are also such rumors, i will say that this is about the song "bahmud fortress", very often you can hear exactly

this version, and masha kondratenko was one, one of those performers that i don't remember somewhere. .. already somewhere at the beginning of summer or at the end of spring, they already promised with their songs that we will be in the crimea, we are getting ready, let's listen, the song is called luli-loli. return the crimean stars, are you ready? your thoughts are already near the sea, are you ready? return the crimean stars, are you ready? mentally close. well, here is such a song, there were many, many such songs a lot, and here is such and such a writer, my god, such a singer, who is klavdia petrovna? it's a completely different kind of music, it's also her popular music, but it's much better quality, there's great lyrics, we can now watch excerpts from her music

videos, and you'll see that in none of these videos is there directly... claudia herself petrovna, because no one knows what she looks like, who she is, this is one of those strategies that are also popular, in general, in art, in show business, when there is some performer or performer, and this is such incognito, that is, it is not shown who it is, it very often works very well, people like this mystery of going there to find out who it is, who it is, here we will talk about the most striking examples, but... klavdia petrovna is we have such a mysterious incognito singer. her songs were quoted, for example, olena zelenska, this is one of her most famous songs, it's probably called i'm happy, and when doctors say i'm depressed, my mother says i'm lazy, let's listen to it. doctors say it's depression,

mom says i'm lazy, what's with repression, everywhere the sun shines on me. the sun is pouring everywhere for me, the sun is pouring for me everywhere, the sun is pouring for me everywhere, but i am happy, klaudia petrovna on instagram, signed, for example, to the noticeable label, which is managed by iryna horova, and it is clear that this is one of a kind side production project, but this is a quality pop project, and well, i always, i always like when t... projects appear, massive ones that gain a lot of views, but they are still of sufficient quality, and klaudia petrovna wants a producer's project, but keeps it, like me seems to have its own individuality. well, after all this, there was a huge discussion, just a flurry, people debated about whether she is or not she, it is one

person or not one person, well , just imagine, and it turns out that the singer some stupid songs and a singer who performs very cool songs, it's all the same person, or not the same person, but where is the truth, we don't know this truth, and everyone wants to express themselves, why... this piarchide is cool, because it provokes further discussions and begins to live its own life and is falling into such a lump, and what i liked most was that there were no direct meetings there, it was just discussions, just people sharing their observations, i know that there are many translators or people who are engaged in diction or something else there, they started to explain, each with his own arguments, one goal... isn't this person one and the same, by the way, if you are more interested in cinema, i have such an example, imagine if you were told that there are films by valentyn vasinovych filmed by oksana bayrak, y

you would probably be shocked, and after all, towards the end of this discussion, people still began to lean more towards the fact that it is not the same person, although many had a hard time letting go of this legend, but still, if we let's see... how they comment on all this in the music media, the journalists who deal with it, well, for example, the newspaper "shush" conducted such a small investigation, and they investigated and they said that in fact klavdia petrovna is a singer who is 18 years old, her name is solomiya opryshko, they are on tiktok found the records of a singer called ostia, he recorded several tracks with her and now he sings. together with another such blonde, whose voice is very similar to klaudia petrovna, and they say it is her, well, let's listen: and we will break up with you at night, you

don't want me to be silent, everything will be fine, only, vitya, don't scare me, don't scare, and we will part with you at night. you love me don't shut up everything will be fine just take it easy don't scare the wind don't scare me why i like this whole discussion even considering it's pr strategy, because it attracts even more people to ukrainian music, forces us to discuss ukrainian music by ukrainian musicians more and more, to discuss them, and most importantly, if we... even talk about it in a toxic way, for example, in the context of eurovision , then these discussions were very friendly, and very so - well, more

debatable, and people began to delve into all this, study all these tiktoks, study instagrams, conduct detective stories, that is, it immerses us more and more precisely in something ukrainian, in in such a light, in such an entertaining format, when everyone... it is interesting to discuss their own, and when we all already forget about this russian music, there or someone is still sitting on it, yes, but still we concentrate more and more on something ours , we study our artists, because of this situation, and people who did not know masha kondratenko, did not know klaudia pitrimna, found out about them, went, listened, they liked them, well, this is very cool, i just want to remind you, friends, about anonymous performers, anonymous artists, it always works very well, but of course, if these musicians, artists or someone else, they are talented, but to reinforce the talent

with this mystery is very cool, very profitable, we can always remember banksy, for example, how long has this banksy been around years, and we still don't know exactly who it is, there are various guesses, one of the most popular is that... it's one of the members of the band mess, yes, but it's not certain yet, we don't know if it's the same person or that's a lot of people, remember, banksy came to us in ukraine after the deoccupation of kyiv, he drew a lot of graffiti, i, since i live in bucha, and all these graffiti are around me, yes, well, he didn’t go to bucha, yes, he didn’t draw anything, but you could go to gorenka, irpin, borodyanka, and there, if you were here... drove, you could see how well these graffiti are protected here, especially in bordianka, there is an alarm system, and they made such a whole cube there, so that, god forbid, there was nothing there

... everyone was harmed are shaking with us and well, this is very cool, there is a daftpunk band, well, we are, we know who its members are, but at the beginning they perform like that in helmets and many people who still like this mystery, well, i want to remind you once again about masha kondratenko, specifically about her self-irony, i am very impressed by the kind of self-irony, self-criticism of our translator kateryna zabot. who reacted very cool to all this critical wave, addressed to her and was able to explain her position, yes, because when you speak calmly and not shout that there are haters around, then you are able to simply explain what you think and convince people in his rightness. also, if we talking about masha kondratenko, despite the fact that she receives a lot of criticism, in the stupidity of her songs, she very often

ironizes and laughs at... herself at her detractors, let's watch one of the videos that she has on tiktok, hello , today i have the premiere of a song, now i will play it for passers-by, go, hello, you are a balalaika, yes, it is you, vanka, what do you want, today i have the premiere of a song, what are you talking about samovars, about kakoshi, you are you at all, i looked at the comments, they write to you, don't sing, you fool you sing, well, the cuckoo doesn't cook at all, what are you looking at? i don't understand, what's going on in your head? men, subway, you look , look, the men of the subway make you get up , sing your gullivers, you know what , pee, well, what's the point, while the camera is filming, you'd better apologize, say something to them, and you're watching her, you understand , and you do reviews with her, and she, what is she, and she thinks that she, and she is not talented, and you have to tell her that, you can, you can, what do you think my photos with

you are necessary? friends, you know, this is me again i assure you that this is the best way to protect yourself from detractors, from any criticism that you may consider unconstructive, not to speak seriously, but to make fun of it , because everything that this guy just said is what counter-tankers are writing in various social networks, in various comments that you are not talented, that you can't sing there, that ah... you, you listen to her songs, do her reviews, she laughs at all this, and this seems to me to be the most healthy reaction, although where in some videos, she still says that she's upset about this whole wave, she sometimes feels really bad about and so on, and they criticize like that, but on the other hand, i also really like that in a lot of her interviews she said that she's fully aware that her songs, well 'so to speak, low art, she writes them just for the sake of the fan,

just for the sake of ... to laugh, well , i personally don't find her songs very funny, i still think they are a little silly, but in the end, if a person realizes himself, well, she doesn't create some ingenious creations, that she writes music in order to entertain others, that there are children who can sing these songs, because this is all about vanka vstanka, it's really a very popular song among young children, so i think it's just very good... and it is also a very good story that at least two ukrainian singers became even more popular because of such a very good promotional campaign. well, let's wait and see what happens next week, i have no doubt that there are some other things waiting for us, we will talk about them next saturday.

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