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decisive, it either works and serves our unity and unification now for a common victory, or we sink into a whirlwind of conflict situations that definitely do not work for our unification, for our unity. we just have to decide whether we want to win in this confrontation with the enemy 's army or whether we are ready to surrender to the enemy's death, but here i have very bad news, because the enemy who is invading our land, he plans to destroy ukraine as a state, and ukrainianness as constituent community of peoples of the world, then... he cannot to be illusions, let's remember the events of 1918, muravyov's army, kruty, and what happened after the heroic defenders of kutiv were killed, and moravyov's army entered kyiv, looted, raped, destroyed the countryside, and then for more than 70 years, ukraine found itself in in the soviet occupation, in the russian occupation, there can be no illusions, unification, grouping for the sake of... a common goal, this is the only way
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to negotiate, there are no other crazy things. mr. vladyslav, at the end of our conversation, this news literally appeared when we started talking with you, the commander of the joint forces serhii nayev from the armed forces of ukraine reported that on february 11, he learned from the media about the presidential decree on his dismissal from the media, whether this is how the dismissal procedure works, or whether this is the way the commander learns, should learn that... he was dismissed, this is wrong, and in fact, here again the question arises as to how effective the personnel policy is in our country, in particular in the general staff of the ministry of defense, being a member of the system, i know well who takes care of these issues, what they do, and unfortunately, some posts by maryana bezubloi regarding in particular, personnel policy, they are right, they have a very serious basis, if we close our eyes and pretend that everything is fine, then it is our business. kabskyi, if
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the transformation and reformation of our system happens, then we have a chance, there can be no illusions here. i will repeat once again, speaking the truth is simple, and it is very important, because if we want to win, we must conduct a dialogue, in particular, open such an adult dialogue between the ukrainian authorities and ukrainian society, between military personnel, between the ministry defense and the ukrainian generals of the staff, there are a lot of challenges, and they are all timely, and they all have a fundamental impact. on the current state of affairs, and it is precisely on proper communication that our victory on the battlefield depends, well, of course, resources, resources, this is artillery, this is ammunition for this artillery, other components that determine the technological superiority of the ukrainian army on the battlefield. thank you, mr. vladyslav, vladyslav tseliznyov, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2014-2017, be with us now we are going for a short break, we will come back and continue our marathon. we will talk with
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names with myroslava barchuk, sunday 17:10 at espresso. well, dear friends, we are continuing our marathon, and valery pekar, public figure, entrepreneur, teacher of the kyiv-mohyla business school, is already appearing on your screens... , good afternoon, as soon as all of ukraine learned the news that valery zaluzhny was dismissed, you wrote the following post: many people ask what to do, i answer, go to bed, this is the best thing you can do for yourself and the country right now , if of course if they are on combat or civilian duty. since then, what other tips do you have for people who are still anxious, and so many people say they have a feeling like it's a few weeks or a week before 24/22/22, some kind of deja vu 'yu, you know, in order to overcome
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anxiety, it would be better to read the posts of psychologists, actually, my post was written late at night, when people could not calm down and took risks. to spend the whole night in this anxiety, the advice to go to sleep was associated with this, and ukrainian psychologists enough has been written about how to overcome this anxiety, which is certainly not directly related to one or another personnel changes in the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine, but rather is an internal problem or an internal challenge, it is better to say, of each specific person, since i am not a psychologist, then i can only read... related posts, for example by svitlana roys, where it is explained in great detail what exactly needs to be done in order to overcome anxiety. regarding the resignation of the servant, everyone had some kind of condemnation, as if something wrong happened, but maybe we are exaggerating, there are many examples that
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have been quoted, mentioned from history these days, when churchill dismissed some commanders somewhere on some southern front, a hold. who sent in the 51st year the super-popular hero of the second world war, general macarthur, and whom, by the way, roosevelt also wanted to drive out of office, but the fact that there was a war was mentioned, i don’t know, there, they even mentioned abraham lincoln, who changed generals there during the war like gloves, eh, is that too, by the way, are the analogies correct in this case? it is difficult to say, because we do not know the details of those dismissals, just as we do not know the details of these dismissals, and not only the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine was dismissed, a number, more than a dozen leading leaders, commanders, generals were dismissed, which means that on their new people will take their place,
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and mostly they will be people who definitely have positive, high-quality military experience, well , simply because there are no other generals of us today. armed forces of ukraine, but for some reason sediment remained sediment, and why sediment remained, i will say, in my opinion, it remained because there was very weak public communication, and it actually... and there is, ah, when a high-ranking official is fired, society always looks at it and wants to hear why he was fired. it is also important for those who come to their places, because even when the reasons for the dismissal are known, it is somehow easier for society to understand the logic of the top management and it is publicly clear what we are punished for, what we are rewarded for, what we are fired for, what to work employee in this case the society did not hear anything special, except that new approaches are needed, well, it
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’s like that, not very high-quality public communication, and here i remember the government of oleksiy koncheruk, the first government of president zelensky, which was also dismissed with the statement that they worked good, but not good enough. such a system of public communication is very demotivating as citizens. as well as everyone involved in the management hierarchy in which changes are taking place. in the case of honchoruk, it was the government, in the case of zaluzhnyi and his deputies, it was armed forces of ukraine. it is difficult for me to say what mood prevails there now, because i can communicate only with those dozens of people who are sufficiently frank with me, although it is still a large number, but i want to say that public communication in ukraine until... it needs changes , and as for the understanding of the channels of this
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communication, we understand that the single marathon is no longer working, and the so-called positive bloggers can no longer create trust or deliver a message, and likewise telegram channels, they will rather win a negative function than a positive one, at the same time, not only the channels, but also the packaging of public communications itself, that is, the very messages to society, also... only increase anxiety and uncertainty, and the public communication of the heads of state during the war, but should reduce uncertainty and increase confidence, and reduce anxiety, not increase anxiety, i would put it this way, uh, how to do it all, uh, that's obviously the task of those people who deal with communications in the office of the president, because when the team the president came to... authorities, their public communication was definitely their strongest point, where did this
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qualification go in two years, in a few years, it is difficult to say, many political scientists and politicians note that having such a huge credit of trust that valery zaluzhnyi had, who united, and those who are in the same camp, who in the same camp in 2000... 19 voted for poroshenko and those who voted for zelenskyi, and those who did not vote for any of these candidates, you, who are ukrainian speakers, and russian speakers, that on the contrary, this credit of trust would be better to use, and not to deprive of this trust, by dismissing valery zaluzhnyi, why in the president’s office, why volodymyr zelenskyi did not take this moment into account, as you think, first of all... i want to say that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine is not a political figure, in it is not his task to unite east and
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west, russian-speaking and ukrainian -speaking, those who voted for zelensky, those who voted for poroshenko, this is not his task, and this additional function should not be hung on him, his task is to command the armed forces of ukraine and to achieve ukrainian victories, and from this point of view we had one commander-in-chief, now we have a second match, and the new one deserves public trust as well as the previous one. the fact that general valery hlushnyi really was for many the personification of ukrainian stability and ukrainian victories is essentially the result of the fact that it was under his command that significant results were achieved in previous years, but this does not mean that it is necessary to mold the position of commander-in-chief into a political position, it a military position, not a political one. and military the command often has to do unpopular things, it happened in the past
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, it will happen in the future, that is why there is a proposal not to hang on the commander-in-chief armed political tasks, but to free his hands so that he can perform his immediate task, which is assigned to him his position, or syrsky in the position of commander-in-chief will have free hands, and of course, if we do not demand from him that he unite, as you say... this is the whole society, russian-speaking, ukrainian-speaking, the east and west, south and the north, uh, those who serve and those who don't serve, those who are for zelensky and who are for poroshenko, and you who are for tymoshenko, uh, if we don't hang on him. political tasks, and we will expect a high-quality command of the armed forces from him, we will definitely see it, that is, i am in favor of categorically separating military tasks from political ones, let politicians deal with political ones, and let them not interfere with military ones, and here it seems to me that society itself is a little to blame for the fact that it constantly invests some money in the military
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additional hopes that go beyond war and victory, i believe that ukrainian victory is... such an important task that for the sake of it you have to forget about all other tasks, and the war is such a big challenge for ukraine, a challenge for itself the existence of our nation and our state, that for the sake of this we need to forget about all secondary tasks and er not er tie the hands of the military with our somewhat inflated expectations, we already had inflated expectations from the armed forces of ukraine in 2023, it did not end in anything good , it's over. such mass disappointment, depression, anxiety, and people drove themselves into all this , well, of course, government communications, which i have already talked about, also played a role here, but mostly people drove themselves into these inflated expectations themselves, and then they themselves suffered from it , uh, we, my view is that let's give the military an opportunity to concentrate on war, an entrepreneur
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to concentrate on the economy, a government official to concentrate on management. parliament to concentrate on closing the gaps in ukrainian legislation, of which there are many, and we will work ourselves, help the armed forces and mind our own business , mr. valery, actually someone very well said that it is characteristic of democratic societies to fall in love with their generals during war, because they really look very advantageous against the background of politicians during martial law, war, but in... at the same time, it seems to me that you are arguing with the fact that zaluzhny became the personification of certain qualities that we also lack in politics, that is, he looked, at least he looked like a sincere and good person, that is, what is it simply missing, and also he has become his own for many people, and something , this, this, this, this, this is such a, some point
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is, it's just that the country is very complicated, the country is very complicated system, which one do you like? to say ukraine is particularly difficult, and here, the decision turned out to be so simple and poorly communicated, and did we, did we become stronger after it, what could be the consequences of zaluzhny's resignation, in fact, i am sure that general zaluzhny not only looked sincere and good person that he is actually a sincere and good person, and because of that, people began to project their own expectations onto him. and significantly went beyond what was assigned to him directly for his duties, and we see the successes of the ukrainian armed forces in the recapture of ukrainian territories in the kharkiv and kyiv operations in 2022, we see incredible and unfortunately underestimated victories by ukrainian society at sea and in
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the air in 23, we associate the 23rd year with a year of military failures, and this is wrong. because we have overestimated the expectations of land war, and thereby put themselves in the position of underestimating the successes of the armed forces of ukraine at sea, where the black sea fleet was actually defeated, and in the air, where in fact we have, despite the fact that missile attacks continue and something flies in and ukrainians die , we actually have a victory over russian missile attacks, due to such underestimations we are actually starting to worry, if we do not have overestimates, and if we look at the situation soberly with a cool head, then we must evaluate the successes of the armed forces in 22-23 years in total as very positive in the conditions that existed, and obviously society associates this with the names
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of the commanders of that time, including the commander, commander-in-chief. armed forces, but i am sure that we will also have further successes of the armed forces, and they will be associated with some new names, it is actually about the fact that we constantly have failures in public communication, and people still close them just the failures of the public communication of the government with its own conjectures, its own projections, expectations and so on and so forth, as if people don't care to say, they will guess. they guess not in the best way, and now let's remember that there is also russian propaganda that helps to guess, mr. valery, but if you don't guess, volodymyr zelensky fired valery zaluzhny, a photo appeared. where they shake hands with each other and smile, the next day, the next day, it seems, he was awarded the title of hero of ukraine, and in this
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video, which we see, they hug, budanov also received the hero of ukraine, and budanov and volodymyr zelensky are not hugging, but before that, we monitor, for example, the page of maryana bezuglaya, as a people's deputy, not just maryana bezuglaya, a private person, who for several months just... purposefully attacks the commander-in-chief valery zaluzhnyi in various ways, even resorting to what he has problems with alcohol, or that he likes women a lot, uh, and there is some kind of, well, and then we also get signals that there is tension between the president and the already former commander-in-chief, and there is some kind of mismatch, because after you turn out that everything is fine between them, as we can see in the video and in the photo, but several months before that we saw that everything was not fine. if you read some pages on social networks and you think that they do not adequately reflect the situation that you see, just stop
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reading them and everything will be fine, as for hugs, well, first of all, i understand when a person who resigns, sincerely congratulates and says goodbye to... his direct supervisor, when a person who continues to be in the service and continues to perform duties, certain official, behaves more restrained and more formally, it's absolutely army-style, it's normal, and there's nothing to be ashamed of. well, here is the question that just me, i would formulate it a little differently, perhaps, you know, many people have noticed some analogies, for example, with yushchenko and kuchma, when... yuvshchenko was terribly in fact not going to and did not want to be any kind of leader of the future revolution, but the circumstances and people's expectations pushed him in the end, but in this and or, for example, from
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koropatskyi, which is also being written about a lot now, and for example, in the central council, who were afraid of his influences, of some of his there are not enough left-wing views, and this also ended with the occupation of kyiv, muravyov, but in general, i just thought that in this, if these analogies somewhere... at least somehow have the right to exist, then in each of these analogies there are, as it were, three valid persons, that is, there is a conditional yushchenko from skoropad, and there are also people who expect something from him, but there is also the conditional kuchma, and that is why our government in this story with zaluzhny also looked very similar to a kuchma, and what to do with it ? i don't think president zelensky looked like a president pushin, i do not see parallels here, that if ukrainian successes on the battlefield and in various fields continue, then we will simply forget about all these troubles, and if they
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do not continue, if we are beset by one failure after another, then the ukrainian authorities will remember all that was and even that which was not add up. kuchma's problem was not that he accused yushchyna. kuchmu's problem was that the country at that time... reached a certain point of development, could not develop further, and in fact the system that was built, it restrained this development, everything is actually a problem, and when there is a problem of development, it is obvious that one way or another social changes begin, and some person becomes the personification of these changes, even perhaps without wanting to. today we have one big problem, it is a war with russia, it is a war for survival, there will be no revolution in the near future. we have one way to win this war, it is the consolidation of society around the ukrainian flag and participation in contributing to this
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victory by everyone and everyone, who can, who mobilizes, who fights, who works, someone helps in the rear, someone volunteers and so on and so forth. if we now deal with the internal revolutionary situation, we will simply lose ukraine. we actually lost it 100 years ago, i want to remind you that 100 years ago we had a country, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers created it, our great-grandfathers defended it and they lost it, they lost it because of three key things, in my opinion, i have read dozens of different explanations in various historical works, but three factors seem the most important to me, the first such factor is internal political the quarrels, which you mentioned, are good, but if there are, i will continue. internal political quarrels, there are practically no chances in ukraine, that is why we see that during the entire 22nd year, in general, quarrels were completely stopped and
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