wow, just them, i will leave them here, so to speak, but what, what, regarding the issue, the question of mobilization, you say what, what, what is wrong with him now, what should be the solutions in order to, well, in order for this system to work, mobilization is not only actually how to catch people on the street somewhere and in some way. to push bobik , relatively speaking, well, at least it seemed to me , it seems that this, it is not the function of the state to worry about how to do it, here, but not when we, for example, hear from yuriy botusov, who visited avdiivka the other day, in avdiivka itself, what is there, there are problems with fortifications, and since the 14th year, avdiivka has been fighting, and what, and until now we cannot make normal fortifications there, as if they say that they should be, they are not there, under the abyss of time.

as i understand it, the problem is also very similar, eh , that is, it is about the mobilization of resources, about the construction, for example, of these lines of suravikin, as the same kasyanov writes, let's build at least 50 lines of defense all the way to lviv itself, so that the enemy understands that the prospects are very there is no progress in it, in terms of mobilization, in fact, after completion after the first wave of volunteers, when people stood in line for conscription in order to... defend the homeland with weapons in their hands, there was a second wave of people who decided that the salary in the armed forces was sufficiently high and attractive, they left voluntarily, mainly for financial reasons, but then understood that the risk of being left without a head or without an arm is insurmountably higher than high profits there or incomes during a short period of time, mobilization had to be systematically engaged in the second half. 2022, unfortunately, we all

know how to think only in hindsight, and that's why grasped when the problems were already obvious to everyone, but in fact nothing has been solved yet, in order to speak professionally about the replenishment of the army by 500 there or 900 thousand people, this year it had to be solved systematically at the end of 2023, and then we could start the recruiting process, the process of training these people, because it should last at least three or four years. months and gradually their entry and application on the battlefield, because in reality it is wrong to drop a person to zero from the first day, temporary adaptation must take place from the third the second, first line of defense, and then direct fire contact with the enemy, it is not all done, in fact, we are only now having conversations about which law is better and how it will be the final result, no one still understands, after that we only... let's start

mobilizing on some new terms, this is a very late reaction, and with such an approach it is already possible to unequivocally state that it will not be possible to carry out some quality offensive with the resources we currently have in 2024, individual local victories, god forbid that there are no large-scale defeats, but the challenge is very serious, plus western support, as we have seen, is unstable and... we have to rely in many ways on our own resources, here, unfortunately, we also have nothing deployed from production can't see, despite all the loud singing. regarding the fortifications, if i am not mistaken, at the end of last year president gutsto promised that x billions of money were allocated for the construction of three lines of defense along the entire perimeter of contact with the enemy. so far, if it happens, it is very sporadic, and actually we are'. to understand on the scale of the state

that only one small area needs at least several billion hryvnias to build full-fledged three-line defenses. when we talk about 100+ kilometers of the front with the enemy, we can easily scale these numbers, it will be tens and hundreds of billions of hryvnias. they are allocated - no, tenders have been held, no, work has started, mostly no. it is impossible to do this with the forces of the military, because we do not have any such equipment sufficient for all works, because modern trenches are not simply. buy a pit, put a few logs in it, these are concrete, powerful systems with ceilings that should contain a direct hit even by ikabs, it is not close yet, and i would really hate for, you know, the defense of avdiivka to turn into a defense and into a legendary bakhmut-2 fortress, because there were a lot of issues there, if it was organized, well then at least it seems to me that there are no more important issues now, i would like to... somehow

talk about it now too, or at least at least understand what it is about they say because when we were told that everything is fine, everything is being built there, the grove is making noise, and then it turns out that there are some infantrymen with the support of the infantry and paying for it with their lives, well, i don’t know if these lives are simply valued more cheaply , than this mobilization of resources? i think for too long we've been relying on magic and dominoes to fall, and we need to step out of reality and take clear, pragmatic steps, otherwise we're going to be in big trouble, and staffing changes are important, but really they not... decisive, and the reason for these personnel changes is obvious, it is in no way connected with the military situation. thank you very much, mr. volodymyr, volodymyr amelyan, a politician, diplomat, minister of infrastructure of ukraine in 16-19 years, well, and servicewomen of the armed forces of ukraine at the moment. dear

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at new york university, is already with us, mr. igor, we welcome you, congratulations, ms. lesya, i congratulate mrs. andria, i congratulate all the viewers. donald trump made such a statement that somehow all of this is scary, he said that he will encourage russia to attack s... how did the united states react to such words, my god, of the american president, still a candidate for the american presidency, how did his voters react to such react? well, for example, senator rubio, a republican, who, i mean, 8 years ago, around this time in 2016... he was saying that donald trump is a liar, and in general, that he doesn't share any

the values ​​of america and the republican party , literally 20 minutes ago in an interview with cnn, he said that he fully supports donald trump, so you see, america, i don't think that anything in america is going to change because of what he said because those who support him. he will still be supported, unfortunately, a lot of republican politicians like rubio will still support what he does, support what he says, and act accordingly, so it's a difficult situation in the united states, and you see that's all this the year will pass under the sign of a struggle between whether the states won will remain the country we all know it to be, or if trump

returns to the white house, it will be what , for example, john bolton, his former adviser from the national security in his very recent wall street journal article, as the article is called, trump is a danger to the united states of america. did a former adviser to trump write this? yes, it's an ex. trump's national security adviser, meaning it wasn't written by a democrat or a left-wing progressive, and it wasn't written in a newspaper, the liberal new york times or the washington post, this is written in the wall street journal, which is the newspaper of the conservative business circles, which is owned by rupert murdoch, just as he is the owner of the fox channel, and it was written by john bolton, who is a conservative among conservatives, i.e. this is such a super classic republican , absolutely conser'. views on everything and he was trump's national

security adviser for about a year and a half somewhere from the spring of '18 to september of '19 and he simply based on the fact that he saw what trump did, what he wanted to do then, he does not predict what trump will do, that he will leave nato, that he will constantly try to agree on something. with putin , with kimchanin, with other dictators, what , what about him, that he has such piety for all dictators, because he himself wants to be the same as them, you know, eight years ago, when there were still only elections, when the election campaign lasted between clinton and eight years, so it seems, between clinton, hillary more, yes, eight years, eight, yes, eight, yes, four years term, i remember one of the americans commentators wrote at the time that regardless of whether

or not trump wins this election, and trump won, as we know, we need to draw critical conclusions about how our education system works, how is it possible that such a person , how trump can become the president of america, what is happening to america itself, and we see that in these eight years, trump has not become weaker, despite the fact that he has really proven that he is a danger to ... democracy in the first place, how it happened that trump became like this a phenomenon that threatens the very system of architecture of the world, where america has been a pillar of democracy and liberalism for 100 years. you know, trump's electoral base is primarily uneducated people, even if we look at who voted for him when he became president in 2016, we will see that the most important majority of those who voted for him, generally uneducated people, meaning these are people who don't have, don't have a

high school education, but that doesn't mean they've even finished school, because in the united states it is mandatory to go to school, i.e. there cannot be children who are outside the education system, parents have the right to teach their children at home, but they have permission to do so, but it is not necessary to finish school, i.e. if a child. graduates from school, can't pass exams, pass all, uh, gets unsatisfactory grades, can't get a certificate that the school course has been listened to, but school... not finished, there are a lot of such people, in fact only, only a minority of the population the united states has a college education, less than 50%, and this is really a problem, electoral the base of trump and the modern republican party in general is primarily voters from very small towns, where it is not that even

education is not very necessary, so that there... somewhere to get a job, there, there is no, there is no such job where they were needed would have some serious knowledge, well, modern, let’s say, if we consider any modern enterprise, of course people who do not have any higher education can work there, but they need different knowledge, they need professional education, because production is not currently not as it is, as it is there were even 50 years ago, and such towns in the united states. a lot, there lives, well, i think 40 percent of the population, but the united states does not consist of new york, say, san francisco, los angeles, chicago. i lived for many years in the southern united states, on the border of texas and arkansas. i lived in arkansas, worked in texas, and the situation there

is completely different compared to big cities. that people, many people with patriarchal views, many people without such a high education, that's all trump voters, there, by the way, i checked , although i did not live there in 16 and 20, i voted for trump there in 20, 70% of voters, the same in 16, and it will be the same this year, i have no doubt, there is such a trend in education, i don’t know... i didn’t check, it’s probably not the case in ukraine, but in the united states there is a decrease in demand for higher education, so all universities across the country are going through a moment where there are fewer freshmen enrolling than, even a few years ago, were you caused by the pandemic and what happened,

the fact that there were many schoolchildren who for a long time sat at home on... it is difficult to say, but the fact is that there is probably not a single university in the country that did not suffer from the fact that fewer people enter higher education than before, i will literally just add, very briefly, what mr. igor says is, i read the washington post that they also published survey data conducted by the institute, the university of california in california, new hampshire, and showed that... that among those people who graduated, just graduated, 45% supported trump, people who at least went to college, there this percentage dropped to 31, people who graduated from college, only 21% of them were trump voters, and then this percentage dropped to 15%, that is, when a person

already had, for example, some scientific degrees, that is, this actually confirms it. your words it's a poll because look man when he's in university in america still the vast majority of universities have a very good system no no only professional education, and humanitarian education, that is, about 25-30% of any curriculum, whether it is a program from any engineering program, or, say, any, any program. there is legal, it does not matter, approximately, approximately a third, approximately a third of the program, from a quarter to a third, these are humanitarian general courses that should teach a person to simply be a person, to understand the modern world, that is, these are courses in sociology, psychology, history, that a person should be educated, diverse, and and

to understand what is done in the world, after all, the most important thing is for a person to... understand what is good and what is evil, for a person to distinguish between these fundamental concepts and be on the side of good, not on the side of evil, so that a young person could well understand what is what, but still a smaller, smaller part of the country's population is covered by education, and the majority of the population of the united states does not have a higher education, and there is no... even a simple, simple, let's say, college education, mr. mr. yehor, but are the american authorities thinking about this now? is it, do they realize it's a problem or? there are some, i don’t know, at least attempts to solve this problem of this government, which is still in power , because trump probably won’t solve it, he doesn’t need educated people,

of course, biden and his entourage understand this, like them, for example , tried to make education more attractive, they tried to write off debts for education, education is very expensive in america, it should also be taken into account that some people do not go to study. it's in a university, or even a two-year college, just because it is expensive , and there is no money to pay for it, they are afraid to take loans, because, well, then they have to be paid off, but biden tried to write off the debts, well, not all, but the vast majority of former students, but in order to encourage other people to go to study, the republicans appealed, the administration's decision in the courts, they won these courts , why they appealed, again, it is clear, because they are primarily interested in preserving this electoral base of theirs, and in

the last 25-30 years they have relied on these people, on the population of mostly small towns, per uneducated population, and the statistics you just gave speak volumes about who is voting for trump, actually, who is voting for today? the republican party, today we cannot even imagine that just 50 years ago the senators from new york, let's say, were republicans, it is simply impossible to imagine at all today, because the country is divided, where there are large cities, in those states where there are large cities, and the population of large cities prevails, the population of the provinces, these states vote for democrats, because the greater majority of the population of big cities simply does not agree... the modern republican party has such an ideology, and where the population of the provinces prevails, the population of the cities, there the republicans

have such power, they, they win the elections, and this is a problem , for example, i myself work at a university, i did not see that, let's say, this year there were more applications for admission to the university than last year, that is, this... there is even a decline in demand for higher education, despite the fact that there are many, many jobs in those fields where education is needed, and it will be needed even more, because production is being automated and so on and so forth, that simply people who do not have any education will not be able to find a good job, but trump, for example, he explains to these people: who is to blame that you have a low salary, but the emigrants are to blame, because they have a high salary, they took your good jobs for themselves, well, we will not

let them into the country, so then, then you will have everything good, and people believe him, because people, there's a lot of people who, they just want to believe simple answers to complex questions, so people will believe this interview that tucker carlson did with...with putin, and putin put all kinds of nonsense in there, because they just because they will not understand their education, where is some fiction, and where is the truth? those who watch tucker carlson, yes, but they would do the same without this interview with putin , because tucker carlson in america has his twitter channel, well, his former twitter, where he currently has his program, when he was fired from the fox channel, elon musk gave him an opportunity. to do his program there on twitter, he has an audience of 11 million people and they listen to him, but look, if we, if we

just remove from what putin said there, his lectures on history, so -called, invented , then tucker carlson is actually saying the same thing, without all the putin. he was already working at fox, he repeated: russia is not our enemy, and ukraine is not our friend, why should we support ukraine, but russia is simply indignant that nato is there, yes, yes close to their borders, they are worried about their security, we need to understand them, if the chinese, the chinese troops were in canada or in mexico, then we would have the same danger, that is, he, he actually, he repeats the same thing, his they listen to precisely these goals. the people who are trump's electoral base, and they, whether they listen to putin, don't listen to putin, they won't change their

position. this is this is this is a big problem because there are many such people, really many, and look how the previous ones ended presidential election in the 20th year, joe biden won 51% of the vote, but donald trump won 47% of the vote, that is, this country is divided, there is such a split, almost half to almost half, this is one of the answers, why they just can't remove him from the elections , because having said that he is enough, as far as i understand, that is... when half of the people want to vote for someone, remove him from the elections, there will be consequences , there is no reason to remove him from the elections, you tried to remove him from the elections in the state of colorado, the supreme court ruled, and in the state of maine, just a state secretary of state registering candidates, she removed him from the election on the grounds that he was involved

in rebellion against the united states. there's the 14th amendment to the constitution, section three, which prohibits those who have participated in rebellion against the united states from holding any office in the united states, but the supreme court had a hearing thursday on just that , because trump challenged, that was removed from the election in the state of colorado, it was clear that the judges approached it formally, because they rely on the law. and the justices had two questions, all nine justices, not just those appointed by republican presidents, whether there is a determination that the events of january 6 , 21, were a rebellion against the united states, and secondly, whether if, if it was rebellion, did trump participate in it, is there a court verdict, there is no court verdict that trump participated in the rebellion, there

is no court determination that it was a rebellion itself... against the united states, so i think the supreme court , there are all nine judges, that's okay with me it seems from the fact that these, these hearings, they were broadcast to the whole country, there is a transcript of them, you can read them, and i have the impression that all nine judges will vote to leave him the opportunity to take participation in the elections, well, let's hope that this time the majority of the american people... will not be relatively, but relatively, but people who still distinguish good from evil, and we are all very we hope so, mr. yuri, thank you very much for this conversation, igor eisenberg, a professor from new york university was with us, they talked about the united states, thank you for being with us this week, lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, worked in this studio for you, thank you for 475,431 hryvnias and

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