and the west, the middle west, so for them ukraine and russia are all far away, for their voters it is even further, many of them have never been abroad, so they are not so oriented towards such international affairs, it has always been so and now it continues, the second problem is that there is trump, you see, he said quite clearly that he is not favorable to ukraine, well, there is a certain... hesitation, but mainly this is his message, they are all representatives, to a certain extent too and senators, but mostly representatives are afraid him, they are afraid that he will become the president, they are afraid that if they do not vote the way he wants, then he can pay back in one way or another, and this is very possible, so there is also this factor, in the end you have to remember , that in the house of representatives they are elected for a term of two years, which means that

a person has become a representative and is already thinking about the next election, this leads to the fact that the representatives are generally republican, in particular, they are inclined to populism, which means that they are ready to do everything that will give them a win to victory in the next elections, and since their voters, well those people in the west and south, do not really care about ukraine or russia, they usually propose populist politicians who... apparently support america, mainly harm american interests, not to mention ukrainian. well, in principle, there is another question here, which may be unclear, i think, in ukraine. for six months, they discussed the issue of this compromise: migration legislation in exchange for aid to ukraine and israel. you have allegedly reached a dead end with migration legislation, although they actually reached significant compromises, they refused to vote on this draft law, as it were.

in order not to solve the issue of aid to ukraine, now they do not want to vote on migration legislation, but are ready to discuss aid to ukraine, it all happens in the same senate, how can this be? well, this is a good question, but you understand, biden thought that if he connected the issue of migration with the issue of ukraine, then he would force a kind of trick, so to speak, but he would force the republicans to vote for ukraine, because they... will not want any solution to the migration issue, they used it, however, as blackmail against him once, so we are not ready to support ukraine if you are not ready to make radical concessions on this issue, and then the situation remained such a stalemate, now the white house finally thought, well, why should we do both in the same package, we will offer support to ukraine and... israel, and then

we will discuss this other issue separately. in principle, it is logical. in principle, the republicans would have something for this to agree, but again it is in their interest to create a kind of chaos in the political system, and this is also in the interest of trump himself. he does not want any solutions, painful issues, because then it will benefit biden, not trump, trump. and radical and radical republicans, so it is not clear what will happen now, in principle, they should agree, but they, they have such a logic that is not completely understood, and it is not completely excluded that they will vote against support, and then against this border aid package because they would like to then, they are then given the opportunity to put all the blame on biden and ... and

so if they can win in november in the election, the situation is crazy, yes, but now they are trying to put the straw in the supposedly white donna, at least that is what is being reported according to the new york times, with reference to representatives of the administration of the president of the united states, they say that they are trying to consider alternative options, that is, how to support ukraine if, respectively, the senate and the congress do not agree. concerning of this package for ukraine, israel and taiwan. we have already discussed one of the options, and it is the prospect of confiscating russian assets in our favor, actually transferring them to us. on the other hand, this is allegedly the purchase with the money of the european union, of those weapons that will be manufactured in the united states and then transferred to ukraine. with this in mind, how do you see the german chancellor's visit? scholz to

the united states and the main highlights of his meeting with joseph biden. well, you see, taking into account what you said, a visit scholza, well, this is a shocking moment. politics, foreign policy of the federal republic of germany. imagine that the german chancellor came to america, and in america offered further support for ukraine, further arming of germany, europe, america, cooperation against russia, so what. well, this could not have been imagined 10-15-20 years ago, here the german chancellor turns out to be the defender of ukraine. he came, of course, to confirm some of his position, to to some extent force the house of representatives to make the right decision, or it will affect it, i don’t know, but it is not excluded, because after all, not only scholz,

other state leaders have already expressed their support for help in ukraine, the senate is with the help of the white house, the pentagon, the state department, well, a big one... on intellectuals and and analysts, so the house of representatives is becoming increasingly isolated, and it is possible that scholz and his visas will help in this, in this direction, but this is the very fact that, by and large, the europeans have to convince the americans that they should help ukraine, let's remember the year 2022, and well yes, well, it's just such an irony of history. this is one of the positives of this crisis , which is now present in the house of representatives, that it forces europeans to finally take their own security very seriously, and the first, as trump as president, he basically

taught them that you cannot completely rely on the americans, but this discussion, i think, i hope, convinced them that even in the best case, when the president is pro-europe... and pro -ukraine, you still have to take up your own self-defense, that's good, that's good for europe, this is for america, in the end also for ukraine, well, unfortunately, it is positive in the long-term sense, ukraine needs weapons tomorrow, not in 10 or 15 years, but at least something is happening like a positive acceleration in business, and tell me, mr alexander how is it in the united states? were generally interested in this interview that tucker carlson took with putin, because for russians and ukrainians it is the number one topic, it is being discussed in all of russia, in ukraine it is being discussed, but this is an interview that was not on any leading tv channels, well, they watch it in twitter a lot of people on ex twitter but again we don't know

if they're watching they're just browsing, that's it too we know what social media is, it's not a tv screen to watch, it's on, off and forget how important it is at all from the political point of view. well, in principle , it showed once again that putin has not changed at all , he has not changed his song, so to speak, he says and sings the same thing that he has been saying, by the way, for 25 years, but at least in the last two years, this one, secondly, it seemed that takar karoson is basically a jerk who was not prepared for this interview, and at the same time , putin proved that he is a boring man who is very simple. he can't answer, unless he demands 30 minutes, well , he was laughing too, somehow you saw, he somehow couldn't hold back, yes, but you understand, for an ordinary american, an interview with putin in which he talks about the founding of novgorod in

862 or something to that effect, and he talks about it for two hours, two hours, at that moment not a single person was in manhattan, although it 's hard to believe, well, i'm sure that none of americans won’t listen, i didn’t watch , well, i heard about the polish -lithuanian principality for 5 minutes and then excluded it, because it’s just idiocy, the only ones who listened were people like me or you, commentators, analysts, others, it’s ours, this is our professional duty psychotherapist putinsky listened, yes, i, i don't know if putinsky, but it seems to me that for the community, well, this kind of professionals should be interesting, well tell me, oleksandr, okay , we leave the rubric, but the americans , who actually hear from the mouth of the russian president, the justification of the nazi leader hitler , who was forced to attack poland because she did not want to give up some

territories voluntarily, played around, played around, i assume that the average american may not fully understand the historical intricacies of our continent there, but the obvious things. where evil must be called evil, and good is good, and they also echo, or did it somehow play a role? well, to a certain extent i, well, as you know, the poles reacted, but i read there... blogs, there are some discussions on the internet, where people somehow refer to it attention, so that it caught everyone's eye, by the way, even today i wrote an article and the first two paragraphs are devoted to this topic, and of course not only that he justifies hitler, he actually identifies himself with hitler, because in fact, the logic, the logic that he applies to poland, is the same logic that he applies to ukraine, so it turns out that... putin really is a putler, by the way, he himself admitted it, i think that experts, analysts and so on,

they saw it, understood it, they are simultaneously laughing in delight, because he is just so i was fooling myself that it is better and worse and it is difficult to imagine, but as they said, for ordinary americans, you know what danzik, gdansk is like, well, we could talk about mars chinus, they still understood more, and you think that in general it is the interview was necessary because... that putin really sent some signals to donald trump, even publicly, about how the russian-american negotiations might look if trump becomes the head of america, as a result, no such signals happened, this happened here is an old song about history, about the fact that ukraine attacked on russia, about the fact that the west insults russia, he generally became a thread of some kind, he was not like that, yes, well, if we talk, well, you understand, but trump knows very well that putin has a positive attitude towards him. but also just such an interview , which, by the way, i am absolutely sure that trump himself did not review, which means that possibly two or three

minutes of some of the most important moments and that's it, so whether it was necessary for putin to send some signals trump, well i doubt something, it just means part of his pr campaign, he had an opportunity repeat what he has already said 100 times, he won't convince anyone, but there is a possibility... it may be small, but there is a possibility that half-sober people who were half-sympathetic to trump will hear at least certain parts and think, well, you must be crazy, to support putin and one has to be just as crazy to support trump, so it may even have the opposite effect, it is possible, but i am not sure, and a few words, mr. alexander, at the end, with your permission, on the subject of elon mask, which actually... is the owner on the x network, the former twitter, where tucker

carlson has 11 million followers, and where, in fact, a lot of people expected this interview with putin, there are very alarming signals from our military that starlinks have become available to the russians, and obviously we are in a situation , here now on an equal footing, and in the united states, our ukrainian minds now have a picture where, well, in fact... according to the pentagon, but a representative of a large private business is now, well, a little polar to the official position of the states, the states support ukraine, but personally elon musk obviously thinks otherwise and helps in russia too, yes, well, don't forget, he is probably the richest person in america, so this means that he has a certain influence e. also affects the economic development of the country, so it goes without saying treated with a certain respect,

like it or not? uh, here it would be, here it would be interesting, because whether he violates sanctions, whether he violates certain agreements of america with its allies, i uh, well, of course, like you, i i am concerned that he helps and favors russia, but... i'm not exclude the possibility that some politicians or at least the federal bureau will pressure him into investigations, it is not excluded yet, but we will see if something happens, then probably in a week or two, that is, you think that in a week or two it can be decided what will happen with opportunities for donald trump to run for president of the united states? well , he will probably be the candidate of the republican party for president, that's all . are convinced that it will be so, the possibility is not excluded that this is some gales that

she will still be able to win in the end, well, but, but only on the condition that there will be some crazy scandal with trump , which will convince his voters that he is irresponsible, that he is an irresponsible candidate, yes that if this does not happen, then he will almost certainly be a republican candidate. and the most alarming thing is that a large part, the larger part, let's say so, of democrats, liberals are convinced that he will be and that he will win. biden, this is very disturbing, of course, thank you, sir, oleksandr motyl, historian, political scientist, professor of rathore university of the united states, we were in touch, now we will be in touch with the former ambassador of ukraine to croatia and bosnia-herzegovina oleksandr levchenko, we

will talk about the balkans, congratulations, mr. oleksandr, sincere greetings , studio, so let's go. this upcoming ukraine-southeastern europe summit, well, in fact , a meeting with the leaders of the balkan countries, this is a completely new form, what can you expect from such a meeting, mr. oleksandr? well, obviously it's a sequel topics, ukraine's participation in the summit, the european union, the western balkans plus ukraine, we remember that in october of last year, all this happened in greece. in thessaloniki on the 20th anniversary of the european union's historic decision that the western balkans will become part of the european union, and considering that ukraine is also on the way to becoming a member of the eu and, together with the countries of the western balkans, will pursue this and has already

officially received this status candidate, it is obvious that this summit will also have... a good momentum, first of all, in the context of the future european integration of the region and ukraine. the second issue is, of course , ukraine's bilateral relations with the countries of the western balkans. the region is not easy, but important, strategic for the european continent. well, and thirdly, delivering signals about what is happening in ukraine, eh. how is russian aggression being repelled, how should wars be prevented in other corners of europe, because it is possible that russia will try to start a war in the western balkans in order to distract the attention of the european union, nato

to several military conflicts on the continent. studio. ugh. and tell me, mr. oleksandr, what? that the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyi, can become a co-organizer of the summit, that is, ukraine as a state is obviously planning to be the initiator of this important meeting, what does he have to tell us? well , i singled out these three points that are of interest to ukraine, official kyiv, yes, the western balkans. can say something in the context of who is their leader in the context of european integration, and we can talk about the fact that, strictly speaking, from a historical point of view, it it is unlikely that we still use it politically, i must say that the slavs go to the balkans and we very rarely use it, i, as the ambassador

of croatia, bosnia, often said this, the slavs came to the territory of the balkans from the territory of ukraine, and we. .. we use very little, that is, ukraine is the ancestral homeland for them, for the slavic countries, therefore strengthening ukraine's political ties with these countries would be logical, from a historical point of view, politically expedient, economically important, and very important geopolitically, geostrategically study. and what do you think in general, it will be develop exactly this process of integration of western countries? kan in the near future given that we see that the differences in views on the region between serbia and kosovo, which is such, i would say the sore point of the region, they are not decreasing, but increasing, or so it seems, well these, so to speak , the opposites that exist between serbia and kosovo, they will not go anywhere, that is

, the process of european integration is going on, it is one track, and... and what is happening in serbian-kosovo relations is a track next to it, but of course it will be to a certain extent european integration is also hindered, but the idea is that the western balkans become members of the european union as soon as possible, so that precisely such conflicts and misunderstandings are easier to resolve, because if kosovo and serbia conditionally become part of the european union, then... and this problem is internal will be relegated to the second or even third plan. let me remind you that the leaders of european integration are currently in the western balkans, only the western balkans. croatia became a member of the european union, there are probably montenegro and north macedonia, but in addition, it is probably

possible to single out the fact that albania has a serious achievements, but serbia would probably go further and the smallest achievements would be in bosnia and herzegovina. well, when we plan, and we have a lot of discussions about it, all theoretical, of course, but when ukraine becomes a member of the european union, will it be accepted alone, most likely, we will join the european union with some group of countries , then conditionally, if he is talking about the 28-29th year, then it could be conditionally from montenegro and north macedonia, if he is talking about the 30th. we are mostly told brussels as the actual date it's probably with albania, whether

bosnia-herzegovina will make it too, it's hard to say, well , we haven't forgotten a little moldova is also included in the process, so yes, there are countries that are leaders of european integration, we mentioned with you, north macedonia and montenegro, there are which countries lag behind for understandable political reasons, in bosnia and herzegovina - it is the constant actions of the republika srpska, which actually destabilize internal security in ukraine, and this is to some extent reflected in the process of how they fulfill their european integration obligations, studio. if we talk about serbia, yes, literally on december 17 , elections were held there, the european parliament ... just recently a resolution regarding the fact that these, this election process was not conducted in fair conditions, calls for

an independent investigation of violations, serbia itself remains a country that also has european integration aspirations, nevertheless receives the following comments from the european parliament. mr. oleksandr, tell us in a little more detail what is happening there and how legitimate it will be in general to continue to act and... both the serbian parliament and the serbian government, well, let me remind you a few words that the serbian opposition believes that there were abuses during the electoral process of the elections, especially in belgrade, and they believed that in connection with this , the very result of the votes should be revised, first of all in the capital of the country . however, we know that the central election commission did not go for it, re-elections were scheduled for only a few precincts, and actually speaking,

the majority in the parliament was won by the ruling party, which is actually headed by president vučić, that is, the elections were early, they were demanded by the opposition , and it turns out that... the result confirmed that the ruling party, well, it is true that in the coalition it won the most votes again, the opposition believes that there were serious violations of a serious nature and they could have affected the counting of votes, however, you know that even an observation seat. in the first days, the osce did not react very actively to this, but when the observers, members of the german and austrian

parliaments showed activity, then the european members also became more active, now you have asked the european parliament for a decision, you understand that, it has advisory nature, whether it will be implemented, will not be a very big question mark, but of course. but that all this constitution of that parliament took place, but the opposition considers all this not entirely legitimate, therefore the process of the position not accepting this result as final still remains, and actually speaking, the internal political struggle continues. continues, i would just clarify, and i think that many have already understood in this regard, that the opposition does not mean the way... to

the european union, and it is exclusively about the european forces, and the president, his party exclusively pro-russian, i must say that there are a lot of pro-russian forces in the composition of the opposition, and in this regard, i see the united states of america personally and very cautiously towards all this, because in fact russia has entered into... all seasons of the political life, it controls the media, many, if not the majority , if not directly, then indirectly, it even has its own political projects, which have now entered the parliament of a small number of deputies, but it is clear that this political project did not fall from somewhere, it is as if oppositional,

however, according to his rhetoric. it is clear that he is pro-kremlin, well, actually speaking, this also affects the position of the usa, which is rather cautious about how the opposition works and the struggle from oleksandr vuchich's party and what is happening there, the studio. do you think in general, mr. oleksandr, that ukraine needs to somehow think about what to do with public opinion in serbia? what can be done with it at all? ukraine is not some big player in serbia, but in order to influence public opinion, the big player there is russia, well, for example, i i work in the balkan direction, every other day i publish my materials in croatia, bosnia and herzegovina, in montenegro, and...

no opposition publication in serbia takes my materials, refuses, well, that's just for general understanding, studio, and why? well, they believe that they are of a very anti-russian nature, they have readers who support the opposition, precisely the opposition media, i emphasize, which they themselves call the yellow press, they say that, well, then part of our readers will not be with us. read, if you, we will post your materials, like this, mr. oleksandr, if we were not sure of your anti-russian, in a healthy sense from the ukrainian position, the position we would hardly talk to you at all now in this studio, it is absolutely natural, i think it is unnatural now, that they are silent, yes what, and what do you think, by the way, about this opinion, mr. oleksandr, the president of vu, that in serbia, russians are anti-russian, and ukrainians are pro-russian, he said so recently,

somehow? that in russia in serbia , these russians who came to serbia are anti-putin, and the ukrainians who are in serbia, they just pro-putin, he said so, oh , they opened it there, medvedchuk opened his public organization, in belgrade, by the way, our embassy turned to the ministry of foreign affairs, because it is called so, another ukraine, yes, in connection with the fact that the name of the organization. ukraine, we should ask ukraine itself how it relates to this organization, does it have any objections? well, of course, what i showed, sorry, this is not some ukrainian organization, medvedchuk is not a positional politician, he is a traitor to the motherland - it two different big things, so we demand that this organization be shut down, they

offer there. not that we unite politically around them, for example, there is some kind of holiday and we need to give gifts to the children, then call us, we will give you these gifts, for the new year, please, we will organize something, there are funds and so on, so it is obvious that vuchich meant that this organization is active, but is it so massive, well, i am not convinced, are there... any supporters of medvedchuk who fled from ukraine, well, i do not rule it out, but are they in the majority, well of course not, but are there russians, and russians in belgrade, there are 100 thousand, 100 thousand in belgrade alone, is it putin’s opposition, well, well, they are doing their own business, russia sent 200 facebookers there, facebookers, not intelligence agents, but thessebians.