it doesn't work, but again i understand that this is at a great price for our titans, stay with us, i forgive you until tomorrow, then the verdict program by serhii rudenko, let's watch together, good evening, we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, for the next two hours we will talk about ukraine, about the world, about the war and about... our victory. today in the program. big casting. after replacing the hard-working nasirskyi, the president continued reshuffles in the military leadership. as perceive changes in the army? the hard way through congress. the bill on american aid to ukraine overcomes opposition from republicans. why trump discredits nato. grain on the asphalt. ukraine calls.

shameful incident at the border, who is behind the protests of polish farmers? about this and other things, during the next hour we will talk with our guests igor lapin and roman bezsmertny in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour, we will have oleksiy holobutskyi and serhii taran as guests. however, before starting ours a long conversation, i suggest watching a video of how ukrainian soldiers on evdiyivskyi. direction fpv drones destroyed a russian tank video of the detonation of ammunition was released by fighters of the 110th separate mechanized brigade, let's see.

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politics, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, we, it is important for us to know your opinion, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. this week was not easy in ukrainian politics, and regarding, in particular, the rotation at the highest level in the armed forces of ukraine, because in addition to the dismissal of valery zaluzhny from the position of... commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine and the appointment of oleksandr syrskyi as the new head, there were also personnel changes, major personnel changes in the army, because the deputy commanders of the armed forces of ukraine changed, and new commanders of the armed forces of ukraine were appointed, in particular oleksandr syrskyi introduced the commander's personnel of alexander pavlyuk's ground forces. who

previously held the position of first deputy minister of defense, was also appointed chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine anatoliy bargelevich, who was the commander of the tro forces. ihor skibyuk, who was previously the deputy commander of the airborne assault troops, became the commander of the airborne assault troops. he was appointed as the commander of the united forces of the armed forces. yuriy sodol, who was the commander of the marines, the commander of the tro forces, was appointed ihor plahuta, who during the maidan era served in internal troops of the ministry of internal affairs and participated in the confrontation with the demonstrators. in a word, such a large personnel reshuffle. now we will talk about this appointment with a military officer, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a special officer, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, ihor lapin. mr.

major, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. mr. major, i have already enumerated this very big investment that i made. zelenskyi during the last three days, starting from the dismissal of valery zaluzhny and the appointment of new ones commanders, how do you perceive such large personnel changes during the war during a difficult situation at the front, how expedient they were, how motivated they were, and how much they can give the result that zelensky is obviously counting on, although not... it is clear what does he count well, it seems to me that with these many decisions to date, zelensky puts himself, so to speak, at odds with society and decided to prove to everyone, i don't know what he is like, i don't know what his goal is,

but now there is a very serious problem in the command of the territorial defense forces, i emphasize once again, this is the main part of our society, which, as they say, is a plow, from sakha, it is a people's army, so to speak, which went, mobilized, and are now in the forces of teroborona, and the lion's share of them are maidan residents, this is a huge problem, maybe someone thinks that they are sweating it, because now they are already starting to get some receipts from the military warning them of criminal liability, blah blah blah, well, we all we know what it was invented for increased criminal liability of military personnel, but the chief cop... who dispersed on the very government quarter led the units of the internal troops and stood opposite us maidan residents, and today he has to give orders, and maidan residents have to listen according to the law, this is just some kind of dissonance

in heads of people, to date, well, i have talked with many people, this is just trash, and i don't even know what better thing can be invented in the interests of the russian federation. the question of personnel changes in general is a question of the supreme responsibility commander-in-chief of president zelenskyi , but i want to say that no citizen of ukraine does not like, well, i don't know such people who like, for example, corrupt people like shurma, or maybe someone likes the head of yermak's office, yermak himself, or i think there are few people, that someone loves representative minta zakharchenko. the same tatarov there, left hand or right foot from portnov, but zelensky leaves them, you release those whom the people love, whom the ukrainians love, without releasing the industrious, because what about this trash, well, i already said, me they asked the commander what to do, i told all my

people against rosna, we should direct all our hatred against the russian occupiers, and then deal with this trash, i emphasize once again, the representative... the air force, namely today, is in charge of the territorial defense forces, this is it state, i don’t have it in my head, i don’t think about it yesterday, simply, i understand that every soldier will follow the order of his sergeant, the sergeant will listen to the combatant, the combatant will listen to combrig, but somewhere in the depths of his soul , as one said a classic, each of them will think every time, is he hiding, is there a dog buried there, because somewhere upstairs... there is a cop who dispersed the maidan residents, but you just understand this in me, it’s called sowing distrust among soldiers, this it is simply impossible to come up with a worse thing in the conditions of war, but this is precisely where there is mistrust, considering that some generals and

colonels i personally know are normal, that is, the same vadim suhrevsky, we fought with them at the luhansk airport, that is, this is a combat officer, one that, who... first gave the order in this war in the 14th year to open fire on the enemy, on the russian occupiers and on the separs, that is, he is a heroic man, it is real, well, he and i, as they say , are friends and that's all, i also know several officers who appointed, in principle , well, let's say this, there is a decision, there is asyrsky, there is his team, maybe he chose his own team, but something seems to me that that team, let's say this, was brought to him by yermak, although there are normal people among them. maybe someone needs to do something after all, maybe it's related to this, i don't know, well that is, let's say yes, there are normal people who command respect, i have doubts about how others were fired, yes, that is, i remember very well, general muzhenko was fired on the way to an international summit, he

learned about it from the media after arriving to the place of meeting with foreign partners, this is a humiliation in general, which still needs to be looked for, the same general khorenko, commanding... ssso forces was simply released, he also found out about it through zmi, general naev was released, he also found out through zmi, that's how you have to disrespect the military, you know oh... this is exactly, you know, this is what zelensky is pitting himself against, unfortunately, but this is how it looks, he pits himself against the army, it’s simple, it’s trash, it’s disrespect, i don’t know, well, it’s possible for me now speaks more emotionally, i understand that i am emphasizing once again, and all soldiers must follow the orders of their immediate commanders, but this turmoil that is now sitting in the minds of maidan citizens, it will not go anywhere and... who knows how a person will react in one or another situation, that's what i'm worried about, because i emphasize once again, our

the enemy, this is the russian federation, it is the aggressor, you must direct all your hatred to the destruction of the dew, but how to fight with this trash, i do not know, i am honest, for the first time in my life, i have nothing to add, by the way, mr. major, a video has already appeared of fighters who say that they publicly support... the new commander of the tro forces , ihor plahuta. let's hear what they say. general plahuta is an authority for many of my brothers. against the background of the information that he allegedly dispersed the maidan, i can say one thing. now this general is almost awake, almost does not eat and is not at home. he is demanding of himself and his surroundings. that is why he led one of the important branches of the army. ro. he did not commit any criminal orders. that is why

he withdrew his personnel to save the boys' lives. all i can say is it's an honor to serve with such people by my side. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. you know, i listened to how some student's essay on a given topic, you know, did not commit crimes, that is, the demolition of barricades on december 10. in 2013, this means that there was no crime in the government quarter, i was right i understand, or is it called, you know what it’s called, it’s a big stitch-up by zelensky, to oppose one military to another military, well, that’s it, well, you read an essay on a given topic, told by a person who probably didn’t see it, maybe you can show the video of the dispersal of the protesters exactly under the units that were subordinate to this general, maybe the person was not on the maidan, or maybe he was at all... at that time he was 10 years old, and today he is 24, and he simply does not know it, that

's all, please , this, these are just fragments, which are filmed, remember the thesis, journalists will not be beaten, no, we will not , well, you, well, you yourselves know better, you are journalists, you know what happened on the maidan, i did not commit crimes, i emphasize once again , well, first of all, i have a very serious question, we have police ranks, ranks of the ministry of internal affairs, er, in the armed forces you have to undergo re-certification, maybe a person has passed re-certification, maybe the military serviceman says that he has not committed crimes, well, he does not know, he says, he does not sleep, it seems that this serviceman is with this general 24/7, yes, he travels with him, he says he doesn’t go home, doesn’t eat, doesn’t sleep, so maybe this is a military serviceman who is always near this general, he can testify like that , i emphasize once again, for me there is a fact, you understand, here is the law about... about lustration was poured on our heads, but simply put, someone stood up through the courts, someone else

somehow got around, you see, for me there is a fact, a person took part in the dispersal of protesters on the maidan, now you can say whatever you want, and this impression that we really do not have in the armed forces of ukraine there were anti-maidan activists, but on the other hand, what do you want here, tatarov is sitting in your office, tatarov. the person who went to the press conference with yanukovych, let them shit on this maidan and on our revolution of dignity, because this is a revolution of dignity for us, and on the 20th they will cynically come to lay flowers on the institute where people like me were shot in including me, thank god, the old man was taken away and my brothers covered up that i survived, no one from my volyn region survived from the 36th hundred, if not i'm wrong, six dead, since the 12th. there are hundreds of guys who died in which i was, that is, we have already wiped the feet of the heavenly hundred,

today the tatars are sitting in yermak's office and rule ukraine, so what do i want here , i am outraged that you are a lapin bead, as they say , you scatter, in front of whom you scatter beads, our maidan is behind them, you saw what berkut is doing in dnipro on the order of maidanivets, who heads the dnipro police, to go to the units for the protection of ukraine, did you hear what? they don't say, well, that's all, well, what else can be added, well, i do, maybe i'm emotional man, i'm trying on the verge of a foul, without violating the constitution, to express a position, and some can't say like me... like me, some can even more, and let's not forget, you know the rule that military personnel, active military personnel cannot go out without the permission of the commanders, commanders , etc., to be on the air, to be on tv, well, you know , you are communicating, yes, there is such a rule, and i apologize, but this man who read this essay for homework, he

was allowed to be on, well, just i don't know, well , to be honest, i... i won't, i'd rather not i will comment, because it doesn’t cross my mind, today zakharchenko’s people are sitting in yermak’s office, and those who dispersed the maidan lead the tro forces, whose honor is it, well , there are no questions, maybe they and this general are together 24/7, and he he looks at how the general is not sleeping, but as far as i know, it is certain that the general is not in the trench next to him over there on the ruins of this settlement, but that’s all, that’s why... it’s all the same to me, me it is not convincing, what the boys could be asked, told not to be demoralizing factors on the front lines, well, i will believe it and i say myself that let's direct all our fierce hatred of russia to the anti-maidan, first of all, to russia. mr. mayor, you have already mentioned how khorenko was changed, how nayev was changed, how muzhenko was changed, how they

learned from the mass media about the signing of decree e. regarding the dismissal, nayev also confirmed that he learned about his dismissal from the mass media, how can this be perceived at all during a war, when the commander of the forces is dismissed and not notified, but only the decree is made public, then he does whatever he wants, that, that, as it is, as it generally happens technically, what a man, he commands a large mass of people, he is in authority. no one calls him, no one tells him, in the end no one tells them for 10 years of the russian-ukrainian war, for the fact that these people were at war all this time, 10 years in this war, no one even told them about it does not inform, no one does not take such a normal human step, thank

you, mr. generals, for your service, why, it is called spitting and grinding and humiliating. that's all, how it looks, it looks like that, spat on, rubbed and humiliated, if we are talking about a general, well, you can imagine, a general comes to some military unit, gives an order, and sits, relatively speaking, the commander of this unit, he says: dude , who are you? i just read in the press that no one calls you anything, well, i mean , you are a general after all, but that's all, you can imagine what a spit in the face of the commander, well, you just know, some may not know, but in the army it... happens, it happens, a lot of disgruntled cambrigos who could be fired were guilty of this people , well, that’s it, that is, you , you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, come from the military, and they tell you, you are nobody, you are already, you have already been changed, you are discharged, technically it happens, as there is an order for release and discharge, that’s it, you are in order, dismiss the general, how do you

dismiss him, how do you dismiss a military officer during martial law, well, you won't dismiss him, why are we going so far, come on? we don't remember how kombat kupov was removed from the combat battalion, how they were removed, and so they were taken and removed, released because he said something in the media, what he doesn't like, something, the military doesn't have the right to vote now, and on the one hand , it seems like the right thing to do, so as not to disperse treason in the trenches, but on the other hand, well, when you look at it, it's really an operation, excuse the point, and you have to carry out this order , because you have the sbi sitting over you in kyiv, which will immediately come, will come, they are in favor, because they will be afraid to come, they will call you and so on, so you carry out this order and give an assessment, of course, criminal aren't you a criminal, you're not, well , a soldier can't give an estimate, but when a soldier they say that you should go without anti-tank weapons and be wound up on tracks, well, there was a chance to prove your innocence earlier, today we are building new bunkers, and what did you

think, who is who, what are we talking about today we don't talk much, let the journalists do it. armed forces of ukraine convicted by judges' verdicts in cases of the sbi. i remember last year the servant of the people, a deputy from the servant of the people party ya yatskiv, i think that's his last name, they did the tsk and, therefore, evaluated the work of the sbu. so, over a certain period of time, employees the sbi instituted 400 criminal proceedings, 1,000 of them against officials, 3,000 against military personnel. and we say , stand up, a huge country, well , that's how we stand up, but this is, you understand, the army, it's the cut of society, the same is true of naeva, well, what was brought to the disposal. a military serviceman can only if he is 200, if he is 300, serious and soon released, if he has three children, yes,

he can write a report for release, that's all, and then he is put in charge and further where, where they will send, but you will not be a general you will send it too far, well, a general needs a suitable position in accordance with his rank, but it is not the case that you can send a major there to command a company or even a platoon. no problems, well, they won't send a trench further, that's all , but it doesn't work like that with generals, what was the problem of our generals, conditionally, general burba, general turchynov, general kanonenko, who else is there with us, general marchenko, you understand , why are they being held like this now, so to speak, not without giving them certain powers, well, imagine that, for example, there, general so-and-so was given command of a certain direction, and in this direction there was tremendous success. this will be pr for him, but what about you, and how will zelenskyi survive such pr, he didn’t survive, zaluzhny’s ratings themselves made him a politician, although zaluzhny never said that he was going into

politics, they made him launched into the ratings, and when they saw that almost 90% of the population loved him, they got scared, i apologize, they pissed off and started to release the log through the stump, and that's it, and that's it, well, that's it, you understand that all things are like that , release through the media, well, it’s just a hood, well, what’s wrong with you, well, you have... a phone, call me, say so and so, with an order from the commander-in-chief, i made a decision, well, if you appoint this person, it’s almost courage and say it to his face, even if, well, even if it’s okay , it’s scary to say it to his face, well, say it at least on the phone, well, it’s kind of absurd, it ’s called putting yourself, you know, in the opposite direction, not together, we’re not, zelenskyi went to sew up ukraine, the way a ukrainian soldier sewed up ukraine, no... the president will never sew up his head, in our cemeteries, that in kharkiv, that in lviv, the same yellow and blue flags, zelenskyi went to sew up

the country, this is sewing up according to zelenskyi, and i emphasize this once again, this is during the war, you can’t think of a worse scenario, to put yourself as a counterweight to the army, your own army, zelenskyi he practiced it, but no one appreciated it at the time, remember, they were supposed to hold a parade on the maidan, they were supposed to hold a parade, zelensky said, there won't be a parade, he's a bunny there. showed us cats and bunnies and elephants near mykhailivska square, what veterans of the armed forces of ukraine said, soldiers, those atoshniks , who were considered crazy, what did they say, if the supreme does not want to march with us, then we will go without the supreme, and we went, and how many 75,000 military personnel, war veterans marched along khreshchatyk without zelensky, without our president, well, he didn't want to be with us. he was with us, you know , as they say, not camilfo, to walk with us on the baptismal font, well, we walked without him, this was the first signal, but for some reason people did not

appreciate that this signal, he was not the same, as they said in the cartoon, not simply , not just like that, but look now at this one, at that space station or something like that in the ivano-frankivsk region, today they go to play, that’s it, you understand that today this what a difference it made to go to... protests against their own armed forces, because for them a representative of the tsk in the form of a soldier of the armed forces is an enemy, and the police go around and flirt with them , the only marathon told, they gave all the platforms to all the plausible and improbable lawyers and non-lawyers, lawyers and non-lawyers were given the opportunity to tell how to evade duty, and now we are reaping these fruits, when people go to rallies, people go out ... beating other people, which is right or wrong, the question is now legal, of course, what is wrong, beating children, so that they thought that these were spies from the tsk, that is, they are not rowed

by the missile gunners, they are worried that there would be no spies from the tsk, today the dodgers have gone crazy, i apologize, they are even capable of such a thing, and hide further behind the skirts of their women, abnormal , because you can't call the bits they can afford normal... to beat people because they thought they were spies of the armed forces of ukraine, can you imagine, in the state of ukraine, it was zelenskyi who was raining together with his team and with his ragged marathon, this is podoliak's information policy today, this is today's appointment, we have, office policy yermak, what is being done in the ministry of internal affairs today is tatarov's policy, and we live in this country, but i emphasize once again, to all our people, first of all, the destruction of rosna, and then we will deal with the ukrainian ones. mr. mayor, because there was a staffing rotation of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, well, you obviously know about syrsky, much more than our

tv viewers. what can you say about the new head of the armed forces of ukraine, because a lot of different things are written, said, and even more so, not against the background of the resignation of a brave man who had a high rating of public trust, of course, it will be very difficult for syrsky to prove anything at all to position himself or to be liked by ukrainians, or to arouse this trust, there will still be distrust, because zelenskyi is the favorite of the people. still removed from office chief of the armed forces of ukraine. well, let's be honest. have we heard at least once from the hard worker that syrskyi does not cope with the assigned tasks. i haven't heard that, it's the first time. second, i have known syrsky since the 16th, maybe since the 17th year. and from the 17th, probably 16, well, the 17th for sure. ot. i met him then. i couldn't say anything bad either then or today. this full-scale invasion, the first order i received

was an order through my brothers. on the phone that syrskyi gave the order to advance with the unit to gostomilskyi airport, you understand, yes, that is, he managed the defense of kyiv, can anyone say something? no, well that's why i don't think there's anything to say here, as far as some people are throwing now, bakhmut's defenses are like this or not, do i fully agree that bakhmut's defenses were built correctly, no i don't agree, because when you drop assault units in the trenches, meaning on the defense. lines, when you put the paratroopers in the trenches instead of them doing their jobs, i do n't think it's good, but i don't know if we had reserves of others that could be put in trenches, nevertheless we sharpened our landing force, relatively speaking, near solidar, although on the other hand we are the lion's share of the russians, and especially wagner ceased to exist in the bahamud direction, but today we have avdiivka, we have avdiivka, i don't know if it's true

or not it's true, but... the public is already writing that avdiivka was thrown, well, one of magura's units, i know, which was sharpened for assault operations, they work at the coke plant, and they also threw it, now they say the third assault unit, is that true? i won't be here to tell, but if the third assault plane was thrown to storm the buildings, we have something to hold them afterwards, we have a sufficient amount of artillery that can cover these buildings, and we have something to counter the aviation together with the russian ones... we, but no, well, if yes, well, then i have nothing against it, but more than six months ago, i said that it was necessary to prepare new boundaries, for the road, the only logistical chain that connects avdiivka with the vast land, in some areas the russians have several hundred meters, that is, you have to solve the issue radically, if you have nothing to do hold on, there is no artillery and fpv drones, because 40 billion were stolen last year, yes, well, i am not

for 40 billion. but at the same time, the special forces were robbed there on our drones, so if you were arrested, how many millions are there, there are not enough drones and artillery to cover these buildings and there is not enough air defense to shoot down planes, so that they would not dismantle these buildings at all, then the question of the integrity of throwing an assault rifle into these buildings, i don’t know, but he is the head of that, here is a question of assessing opportunities and intelligence the data he has, well, it's not my mind, because i can't assess it, but the risk. i see , and in this context i always said that if there is an opportunity to hold the bridgehead, because there is enough artillery, it must be held, and if not, then we must withdraw the troops to the prepared lines, and now the question is, everything is fine with the engineer, we avdiivka has a place to withdraw, because pokrovsk will be next, and everyone understands that, and rusnia will not just go to pokrovsk, but will try to break the pokrovsk-konstantinivka route, everyone they understand it, no, well, if everyone understands it,

we are probably already there... built bunkers, pillboxes, pillboxes, a concrete defense line, because in avdiivka, a defense line was built in the 14th, 15th, 16th years, and it lasted until today, until it was broken underground, and, that is , the russians dug a tunnel, the main intelligence agency, together with our intelligence officers, sorry, screwed up this information, and the russians went to the rear of those defenders who held that concrete line of defense, which is holding 10 years, and it does not resemble anything. i will remind maybe someone has forgotten, but i will remind you how tens of thousands of russian servicemen were transferred from ugledar to bakhmut, and the main intelligence department was engaged in filming a film about the surgical liberation of snake island, because this information was also leaked, and i told how tens of thousands were transferred were redeployed, but where is our intelligence, what was it doing, it’s not a needle, as they say,