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impartially, you draw your own conclusions. good evening, we are from ukraine. they came to the defense enterprise again. the senate said yes and with what zelensky, for what purpose he plans to go to western europe, ask for shells or talk about security agreements. we will talk about this and other things for the next hour and 45 minutes. this is the great ether, my name is vasyl zema, and we begin by announcing the collection. in order to move quickly and carry out combat missions, the legendary 25th separate sicheslav airborne brigade needs a car. they are constantly under the enemy's sights. the occupiers try to storm every day, but despite everything, our...

defenders firmly hold the line to the east direction we ask everyone who cares to join in collecting funds for the car that you see on the screens now, it is exactly such a car that our soldiers really need. do not stand aside, every hryvnia brings our victory closer and accelerates the death of the enemy. our goal is uah 300,000. please report the details you see on your screens. you and i have already closed more than one collection, collected millions of hryvnias. our fighters reported, showed. that they have received all that you have raised money for, so we believe you, you believe us, and we are together we believe in the armed forces and support our glorious army. well, let's start by talking about the situation in the dnipro. vorogunochi struck a powerful blow with these drones on the city, and there were artillery shells flying over the region, but of course the strike on the dnipro was quite large-scale. danylo miro, deputy of dniprovska. the city council

is in touch with us, mr. danylo, i congratulate you, good evening, vasyl, i am very glad to see you, each other, you know, when you arrive in another city, and not in dnipro, you even watch videos, read telegram channels, you don't feel that what do the townspeople feel, experiencing both the attack itself and the consequences of this attack, and we know that these houses were left without heat, without electricity, the hospital had to be evacuated , schools were closed, well, actually the situation is not easy, i just want you to describe this particular attack a little, what it was like and then about overcoming the consequences and how the city was possibly paralyzed in some way after the enemy managed to be hit, in particular in the tets, please, in the tets, vasyl, well, i want to say that i will not say that it should be. .. unexpected, probably, for us already with in general, such a word as unexpected from a terrorist neighbor will somehow be incorrectly interpreted, yes, that is, in principle, we always expect, but in fact at night it was very, very loud, there was a very multi-wave attack from

drones, even there after a few waves they launched there they launched one missile at a time, of course, that they were testing our anti-aircraft guns and so on, but our air force worked out everything very brilliantly, and that is a very, you know, so far, very, very strong indicator that we do not have after such a large-scale attack, there is no victims, there are no wounded, fortunately there are no dead people, so this is the most important thing, this is what we, the most valuable thing, yes, what we save is the life of our people, uh, kisses and to the object energy infrastructure, and critical infrastructure , what can i say that at night we did not have light, water, heating in very large residential areas, for this minute, well, even in

the morning, the light was completely restored by our energy heroes throughout the city, that is, we did not have a place where there was no light, as far as water and heat, then a large residential... massifs , unfortunately, specialists are still working there to restore heat, because of that, and, please, please, i just wanted to add to that, the evacuation of hospital patients was taking place there, i understand , which again in connection with the fact that there was no access to heat energy, possibly to electricity, again, how successfully and effectively it was possible to do this, because it was again a question of people's lives, i i understand that the patients in the hospital have different ones, and there are stable ones. there are people who, let's say, are urgent patients, or people there who may have had operations, please, yes, yes, everything was done, for, let's say, if i can put it this way at the highest level, because in fact it is a very specific, let's say, medical institution in which in

fact, a lot of attention to patients was required, the evacuation was due to the fact that there was no heating, and we also have... five schools of ee are switching to the online format due to the fact that there is also no heating, today in the morning, two schools finished their school, well, we know, let's say, the temperature norms were appropriate, normal, and that's why they studied for half a day today, and tomorrow they also switch to the online format, due to the fact that there are problems with the heating, that's why i'm like this for you now, dad, please finish, yes, this is the situation at the moment and... and very much, what can be said, our , you know, pride and we have our military, our angels, but also, there is something to be proud of our specialists who work and energy, and that, as far as water supply, and as far as heating is concerned, this, you know , ordinary

people but doing extraordinary things, thank you thank you very much, of course, to the military, rescuers, and utility workers, who contributed to the fact that the city itself could continue to live and recover. and heat supply, electricity supply, and actually the greatest happiness in this story, because everything can be restored, rebuilt, but you can't bring people back, it's very good that there are no casualties and enemy attacks came only on objects, not on people's lives. danylo miro, a deputy of the dnipro city council, was with us. now we will discuss now with one guest, then with another guest, but very question which, you know, i would not like to discuss it, but it happens and you have to explain what is happening, because to yourself. to ask questions, and we will ask questions to mykhailo makaruk, he is a military serviceman, and now we will, mykhailo , congratulations, glory to ukraine, mr. winter, i am very glad to hear you, heroes, congratulations and thank you for inviting me to the efe, thank you for agreeing, mykhailo, well, we will start by talking

about inspections, justified or not , of defense enterprises, which actually manufacture certain types of weapons, defenses and sights, because there are several of them, as they say, cases, today's story... the manufacturer of bulletproof vests, ballistica, reported on searches, the company was actually stopped, the site was stopped, orders were stopped, the showroom for the hero of sevastopol in kyiv did not work, but before that there were more stories with serhiy. with the company archer, which makes sights, let 's look at today's case and see if there is any traceable system here, please, completely different cases, first today ballistics officially announced and the owner that he thanked for an adequate the behavior of the national police of ukraine for the fact that they are clearly aware of the situation, as its direct competitor, the company velmet , wrote something inappropriately about the showdown of competitors, and... in my opinion, this is inadequate in the conditions of war, everyone knows very well at the front and velmet, everyone know

ballistics perfectly, and in this case they should be friends rather than enemies. i wrote a direct post to the account of serhiy pashynskyi to immediately dispel a lot of manipulations there. i am familiar with serhiy pashynskyi, i met him in 2016, he was the head of the committee with issues of defense and intelligence, and i was then helping to write the draft law, which is frankly written. i help promote it, it was a bill on special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine, which was adopted in the 17th year, in general, after that, in principle , i did not see contacts, then i saw him on the third day of the war, when he brought the thighs to kyiv from signed in arabic, from the arab contract, which, in principle , helped a lot in the defense of kyiv at that time, extremely, what the hell didn't happen, and i know... that even in the news, political matters are more important the management is proud of the sulfur production

of sau bohdan, stugna, korsar, vilkha, but this is all thanks to what the company associated with pashinsky did, and no one, well, i can say personally, we were looking for a way out for one division , everything was deaf. through other people to pashinsky, they were shorter than his production, it is not surprising to see openly in the information space at the same time the statements of the investigative committee , forgive the lord of katapstan, that is, the russian federation, and our nabushniks, who sing in unison, it's not normal. our group , here we are smashing everything, we have enough shells

, who has no secret, we constantly need mortars, we need grease, shells, and we are watching what is happening with the defense complex in kyiv, in the rear, we have a very big misunderstanding of this situation, to put it mildly, you know, such betrayal creeps into our souls, in general , well, look, we had some checks, we had a state audit service or someone come to us. pulled out all the coordinates of defense enterprises, what is it ended with a large-scale missile attack on ukraine, everyone knows perfectly well what this led to, someone was punished, well, they did not come to any outspoken collaborator there, they did not come to these simple gentlemen, who people call themselves legal consultants, who are openly disrupting the mobilization process, they are discrediting these same csk members , they are disstating the armed forces, the authorities do not see everyone, just like the investigative bodies, and for us it is... wild, we just watch and what is happening, you know the feeling as if

we were thrown in and killed and everything is fine with everyone, but good people, we have been fighting for two years, we are living people , we want to survive first in this war, we are no longer talking about winning, we just want to survive, i will only add, based on the story with pashinsky, i read that the association of the arms manufacturers, which he heads, actually transferred weapons to the army during the period of the full-scale war more than, let's say , per... not alive and serhiy prytula combined, this is not a criticism of others, it is simply so that people could compare, but on 14 there are something like billions, that's all they say that a lot of work is being done and a lot of weapons are being transferred at acceptable prices, and i also asked about the company, i can add myself that what about this initiative of the government and the president to attract a private complex to supply them to the photo complex. in the electronic defense radio, in the electronic warfare radio, 90% of it

is from this association that comes to the front, the same quartet, and many others, uh, and there was also a story about the manufacturers of sights on the archer company, in october there were also checks there , and you talked about it, just or there the story has already normalized and people can work, are there any ongoing, well, you know, we are end consumers. we receive marchers and we are grateful to this company for the fact that we can cooperate on the front with its products, but if everyone were to shout, attract private... business to the defense sector, to production and to the largest, well , representative, the largest association weapons manufacturers, well, they come, well, what will a private entrepreneur say, who, for example, wants to produce something, he will say, everyone comes, they just come in and remind them that he took fuel from rosneft, well

, there were a lot of reports, well, it's not hard to see, google is dead, it's a basic check, so i say here, i'll come to me like that. then why should i lose myself on repurposing, everyone is shouting, well, we will assemble drones in the kitchen, which then fly, will not reach the destination and the batteries in them are not working, well, everything will be fine, i thank you very much, mr. mykhailo, for joining and i wish you a good evening, today mykhailo makaruk, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, was in touch with us, and actually told how what weapons are needed and how these weapons are used. sat down, it can be a rifle, a means of protection , and how does the company do ballistics, well, there we understood already a different story, but in any case, and this is all necessary, because the ultimate beneficiary here is the armed forces of ukraine, the ultimate beneficiaries are we , the people, the citizens of ukraine, who are not even at the front, because our troops, who protect ukraine today, who are protected, armed, have means

of defeat, means of protection, means of transportation, armored vehicles, this is our security. and this is hope to win this war, so the beneficiaries are us, the citizens, we are the citizens, we should, like the journalists in this story, monitor, at least not criticize anyone in general, not cry treason, at least talk about it and try to find out what is going on , if nothing good is happening, then we must speak, let's intervene so that such and such a story does not happen, and we will continue to talk about this topic and include tetyana chornovol, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine and a journalist, in the conversation. mrs tatyana, congratulations, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glad to see and hear, glory to the heroes, i am also very glad to see, well actually, we will start with the key topic, these are the searches that took place at serhiy pashynskyi, they handed over the suspicion, they did not hand over the suspicion, they wrote that this is a fake suspicion, but in any case the story has begun, your reaction is the very fact that they came with

searches, what they want and how you can assess now, well, as of this evening. day, maybe you have more information, what is happening there, if you have been in contact and have, have more information about the continuation of what started yesterday, uh , as far as i know, the arrest of serhiy pashinsky is being prepared for tomorrow, i am absolutely convinced of the reasons for this arrest, not a matter of ten years ago in the 14th year, i don't even want to talk about it, because you know, if we talk about this case, well, this is talking about pashynskyi, about his family, about his... problems, in fact, now we have the problems of the whole country, and i want to say about this why there is such a massacre against poteshytskyi, the fact is that now the entry into the army has stopped projectiles, but i am now directly at the front, i will tell you that, for example, 5 days ago, a firecracker went off 100 m from me, and according to reconnaissance, we can see traces of where this

firecracker went next, this is a certain factory zone, the hangars are , i'm currently working for fii. "i can't fly into the hangars in the middle of the day, well, it's a mosquito bite, you know, it's a mosquito flying after an elephant, we don't have any shells in our direction right now, like, shells to just cover these hangars and cover the sunsucker, you know, what's up sun drinker, by the way, i'll tell you, he worked in the village, by the way, there are still civilians in the village , so that you understand, yes, thank god, by some luck it turned out that there were no casualties, but you yourself understand that this is a very terrible weapon, so why am i mentioning it, why are there problems now in the army with projectiles, and because they are now retired." for months this very interesting situation has been happening, now contracts are blocked for those companies with which, let's say , pashynsky deals, how does he deal? pashynsky heads the association of defense enterprises, the list of this association, in particular, includes these businesses who supply shells to ukraine , what does pashinsky do, he was, so to speak, establishing their contacts, he solved problems with

various states so that these shells would go, then he controls the transparency and he... they control the price, by the way, of these shells, so for these , according to this association, the projectiles came with a minimum earnings of 3%, which is allowed by the laws of ukraine, and accordingly these contracts, let's say, are the cheapest contracts in this country, these are the contracts of this association, apart from the fact that they are not cheaper, so you understand, these contracts, well it the vast majority of projectiles came under these cheap contracts, so in recent months the implementation of these contracts, that is, the payment of money to the state under these contracts was stopped, that is, actually suspended. the supply of ammunition to ukraine , why did it stop, well, because various businesses that have a certain relationship with banking and want to get involved in this topic, by the way, already in these two years, any enterprises that are not from the association. and from the bank they supplied shells to ukraine, making a margin twice, or even three times more expensive, than the price of the shells that were supplied through association, and the most ridiculous part of this story

, in recent months, pashinsky went to the nabu, he brought documents, he showed what was happening in the country, that there is one price for shells, contacts are blocked, but at this time other companies have already agreed with them contracts are twice as expensive as these firms or other firms supplied before. but it's more expensive, he provides all these documents, he asks to investigate everything, he asks to stop the corruption in the army, in particular the corruption of shells, and what is happening, he files a case against he, according to the events of ten years ago , for almost two years, not a single case was opened for corruption regarding the provision of shells to ukraine, not a single company that overestimated the prices by two or three times, we heard that the sbu is working on this, or some other investigative bodies are working on it, nabu doesn't work on... why doesn't it work, but i have a very , by the way, very big question, but if it was still only about shells, so you understand, pashinska has the best

weapons specialist in ukraine, by the way, he headed the national the committee on national security and defense in the former the authorities, why? and because he has very vast knowledge, in fact, but he is going to ttx, well, of almost all weapons, only he has, let's say, certain things there, a little less with communication, he has certain knowledge there, but.. . with the guys, but in matters of technology, missiles, he knows everything, he knows everything about airplanes, he knows the characteristics of each, every airplane or every ship that is in the armament of this world, so that you understand, that is, he is really very deep a specialist, and accordingly he was able, this is his mission, to provide the army with domestic weapons, perhaps this will be some new information for you, but in such circumstances we are forced to reveal it, all the good weapons that... are at the front, behind this is pashinsky, you know, sau bohdana, who is now considered one of the best in the world, behind this is what pashinsky stands for, he is the father of this sau bohdana, the mortars that

the funds are now simply, simply disassembling , come back alive, okay, all these volunteer organizations that buy mortars for the front, believe me, believe me, this is also, there is father pashinsky too, lng, father pashinsky, car novator, who also praise, father pashinsky. by the way, so that you understand again, the price, if sau bohdana's price is 2 million dollars, then, for example, sau krab, which we supplied from poland, is 13 million euros, and 13, there is a difference, yes, also an innovator, one the price, so that you understand, cossacks, this is such a similar car, each kuzak is 2 million more expensive, that is, so that you understand approaches, this is a person whose mission in this life is to provide security. army weapons, by the way, my life depends on it, my life and the life of my brothers at the front, the life of the whole depends on it of ukraine, which we have behind our backs, because

now a person is cleaning up who, by the way, is in very difficult conditions, he is a favorite of the authorities, you understand this perfectly, yes, that is, a person who is not an official, a person who is actually in of the opposition, a person who, only with his head, managerial and patriotic talents, managed to make it so that the weapons that are sent to the front, he has a relationship with this, who else is like that in ukraine, who , oh who, whom was the bank carrying out now, yes, who, what other gunsmith, gunsmith in ukraine, we know, yes, many write and shouts that the west should give us weapons , but i will tell you, here at the front, we are mainly fighting with domestic weapons, this is the situation, you know, by the way, no tuna, there is also a lot of corruption behind this, so you understand, that is why its destruction , well, you know this, it is now... the heads of the whole country and the tragedy of the whole country, change it, this is not his tragedy, and not the tragedy of his family, you know, now there are places in ukraine worse than prison, a

lot of places in ukraine is worse than in prison, so it is not his tragedy, but actually it is the country's tragedy, it is the tragedy of my survival, not even his survival, but my survival at the front, you understand what is the curiosity of both yours and mine, and everyone who is not currently at the front as well, because we understand very well who is keeping the horde on the front line, we have several minutes, but very briefly, it should be... if, if the arrest, a permit should be issued by whom, the investigator of nabu for this, for this action, and well how to act here, again, not against the law, we are talking about legal actions, well, but somehow it will be considered by the court, it will be considered by the court, but i will simply be convinced that it will arrest, because it would not have been done otherwise, it is done again, i understand, it is in order to squeeze a person behind whom there is cheap support for the front, and they want to come. people who want to make money, as in grand theft, people who are related to the authorities, but it is the lunch that does not float like that, you know, you understand, but i, for example, at the front do not even care how much

weapons are purchased. and i understand that if they get their hands on everything now, they will simply destroy it, there will be neither money nor weapons, if for, if someone is raiding there now the enterprise that bohdana is doing, bohdana will no longer exist, and i understand that it is being destroyed precisely for this purpose, because they did not see, oh, some person is successful, let's take it and make good money from it, well, if you don’t succeed, you won’t succeed, that’s what’s the problem, by the way, i’ll ask at the end, and when they promise shells, well, in order to at least... as they say, eliminate sanse’s thermobaric weapon, no one, nothing, no promises, i say cheap contracts are locked while these are cheap there are contracts, not cheap contracts are difficult to implement, because immediately the public will shout about this, so it is necessary to remove the person now, and after that, i think, the provision of the country with shells will start, but with a different price, away with a different price, i tell you right now, already other firms two years. in smaller

batches, but they supplied shells twice or three times more expensive than the association of defense enterprises headed by pashinsky, and accordingly, i think it will all start now, you know, when there is nothing to compare with, no one will even be able to talk about corruption, why? because, unfortunately, now there is such a situation that in the west, the number of shells is decreasing and decreasing, they are becoming a scarce commodity, prices are rising accordingly, and accordingly, when a supplier disappears in ukraine, which has... let's say, the price is actually the cost of supply, yes , there will be nothing to compare it with, and other suppliers will simply tell , and that’s how the prices rose, we didn’t agree that way, that ’s how the prices rose naturally, thank you, and we will, thank you very much for taking the time to meet on the air, at least and to comment, thank you tetyana, tetyana chornovol, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, a journalist who is now, well, she is not at the front now, she

has been at the front during all these two years of a large-scale war, and we remember how she defended kyiv, precisely her thigh, which was saved, stopped an enemy tank that was moving from the northern direction, and well, we will follow this case, you know, here we are as journalists, but we as citizens, first of all, we can't do anything, but we will watch, follow, comment, engage people, and of course, there should be justice here, if someone wants it, because you can always make money, but you know, even make money in wartime, if someone already wants it. excessive measures to make money, well, at least definitely not on the lives of military personnel, not on the security of the state and not on the risk of the existence of this state in general, so we will monitor this topic further, but now serhiy zgurets, director of the defense express agency, host of the military summaries of the day column. serhii, please, good evening. i congratulate you, vasyl, i really congratulate our viewers many interesting details and important things were said by the guests before me when they talked about manufacturing, ordering weapons, i know that some companies are now waiting for a month to order scarce things that

they can. to produce , but there are no such orders yet, they are going to kyiv there to seek contracts, so as we can see, there are nuances that require, well, a solution with the participation of the minister of defense and the team of the minister of defense, then we will talk about new forms, approaches to recruiting, to the army, about the situation on the front line, primarily around avdiivka, and about the production of ammunition for the armed forces against the background of the establishment of new factories in germany, but not in ukraine. more on that in a moment. so, i will start with the fact that the ministry of defense of ukraine, together with the city council of lviv, launched the pilot project of the ukrainian army recruiting center, in fact, this , in my opinion, is the development of a new model of interaction between society, conscripts and the armed forces, and the goal of this initiative - this is

actually to be motivated. man served there where she wants to serve in the ideal version, where her potential and skills, of course, after appropriate and high-quality training, should give the maximum result for a specific military unit or a specific military unit. let's look at the story about the recruiting centers of the ukrainian army, which was prepared by espresso correspondent kateryna oliynyk. everyone who is preparing to defend the state. has the ability to choose a phage and division. recruiter iryna lutsyshyn shows a list of vacancies from seven lviv brigades. ulavy of the armed forces. they are looking for both cooks and clerks, as well as grenade launchers and gunners. as of today, we have open vacancies for all brigades. the list of vacancies is diverse, starting with military positions, and not a few. for example, we have open vacancies for dog trainers, we have...