welcome, thank you for being with us. good evening, sergey. let's start our conversation with a blitz poll, as we ask our viewers whether they expect further personnel rotations in power announced by zelensky, not only of the military leadership, but of the political leadership in general. perhaps the majority of our tv viewers do not understand what kind of staff rotations we are talking about . but still, well, let's start with mr. poturaev, mr. nikita, obviously you know exactly whether can we expect further personnel rotations in the government, well, political ones? and no, i don't know for sure, because our fraction did not receive any proposals regarding the change of these or other heads of central authorities, what i am waiting for, i am waiting for, well, maybe an appointment. the two ministers

who are now vacant positions are the minister of culture, information policy and the minister of veterans affairs, well, i think that we can safely wait, because there are no ministers, but the minister of culture has been gone for six months, mr. nikita, that's right that's why i'm waiting, because i chairman of the specialized committee, thank you, mr. nikita, mr. andrii, you are waiting for some changes, well, drastic changes, so that it is clear, because in the military leadership, here we are further. let's talk about it, have you changed in three days 16 commanders of the armed forces of ukraine, commanders and those who are generally in the top management, the military leadership of the state? well, because rotation is possible in the military leadership based on the individual decision of the president of ukraine, and no one actually disputes this possibility, but with regard to other, as you ask us, political rotations, i don't quite understand either. what does this mean

, but it probably means some positions in the cabinet of ministers, and you and your colleague poturaev just gave an excellent answer, i will clarify, because i am monitoring this story, today is the 201st day that we do not have a minister of culture and information politicians, by the way, if it suddenly seems to someone that there are problems with information policy in the country, then we simply do not have a 200. one day high government official who is responsible for this, and i think everyone understands the reason, and probably colleagues from they will agree with me, not because it is difficult to find candidates, although it is difficult to find them, but it is no less difficult to find votes for any candidate in the verkhovna rada. therefore, to be honest, i look with great pessimism at possible full-fledged rotations of political figures, although, of course, i will not be surprised that some new... vo will appear in the cabinet of ministers.

thank you, mr. andrii. mr. rostyslav, you expect some big personnel changes, well , here you can, i understand, it would be limited to the answer if we have five or six managers govern the state, then in principle all other personnel rotations, they are not so important and so political. well, you know, i just wanted to say that the short answer is no, i don't expect it, and the reason is that... as long as the five or six managers in the president's office are unchanged, any reshuffle, any appointments , any vo, whether in the cabinet of ministers, whether at the level of regional military administrations there, or at the level of other central executive bodies there, they will be only cosmetic, and the same will be the case in general the question is whether people remember who our minister is for certain affairs, so until there are very fundamental changes in the president's office, until there is a transition to... the approach of a government of national unity

or a government of national salvation, or -experts call it different, so far all these conversations, they will be scholastic, and whether it will be vo or whether it will be a certain minister, it really does not matter much. well, i understand, mr. nikita, that the servant of the people is not too determined to reformat the majority, in principle, you are dejure and that is the majority, de facto, you have a majority - it is together with trust. and opzzh revival, well there and various groups and factions, which in principle give more than 226 votes, eh, and therefore it is absolutely not illogical to ask whether there will be a government of people's trust, whether there will be a government of a different format, in principle, although, although probably it would be worth asking this question, because the same denys shmyhal, four years in the post of prime minister of ukraine and in fact.

perhaps, perhaps, it would be worthwhile for zelensky to change the prime minister of ukraine, or all, all positions that exist, well almost all of them, they arrange a servant of the people, and well, there is no point. exchange people, well, if somewhere we see a big failure in the economic or financial policy of the government, then maybe such questions would be appropriate, i do not see them today, i believe that the economy of ukraine, and industry and the financial sector, and the financial sector, they cope with the absolutely unprecedented challenges that our country faces, that no other country faces in the civilized world, that's one, two, as far as ... our votes, so then it can be said that where our voting for laws gives 300 and 300 plus votes, it means that we generally have a coalition with all factions and groups, and this happens not so rarely, and thirdly, and - thirdly, mr.

sergey, you should not reproach us, because you see perfectly that the same republican party of the united states, it consists of different parts, and it is the majority. but we see that this majority has very different views and in general, it means that the vote for us depends on these views of these different groups in general, it is critical, but it does not cease to be, as far as the government of national unity is concerned, the question is already here, so the government of national unity, well , in general, it usually assumes that it includes representatives of all factions of groups, everyone. i want to emphasize, that is why we must not forget that we have fragments of pro-russian factions of groups, surely everyone wants them to be included in their representatives in the government of national unity, or we will have a government of national unity, but not quite unity, that is, individual

dignitaries will enter, and some will not enter, well that's why we have to deal with this very carefully, i believe that we have normal singing. with all the factions and groups in the parliament, i believe that we find the necessary compromises that are important for the adoption of laws on which the struggle and survival of the country depends, and i believe that we have a government that copes well enough and professionally with the tasks before it stand frankly speaking, mr. mykyta, i am generally surprised that there are such fragments in the verkhovna rada of ukraine. former or not even not former, they are not former, because they are elected from the party that is banned in ukraine, and this opzh party, and these deputies sit and pass laws by which the country lives during martial law, during war, although these deputies, well, they certainly should not be under the dome

of the verkhovna rada, as well as these 400 deputies of various levels, who were elected from the opzh, and in any case , this issue must... representatives of the party, which is officially banned in ukraine, but in principle it is also in the verkhovna rada, and what's more, she is your faithful assistant when you vote, well, we see this in every vote, when opz joins in, when the voice and european solidarity... do not want to vote for the bill on mobilization in the first reading, in that version, in to which the government submitted, and the opzh votes, well , that is, it is absolutely somehow incomprehensible, to be honest , for me, for a person who has been observing ukrainian politics there for a long time, i

cannot understand how a faction, a whole faction can sit former associates medvedchuk and press buttons in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, well , that is, i can't answer, you can. yanukovych insisted on tymoshenko, we should have learned first of all, well first of all, well first of all, when the lesson about the separation of criminal, personal and collective political responsibility, this time, well, we could have already learned it, true, then, but secondly, and secondly, i really didn't want to touch on this, but since this topic has already been discussed, it also surprises me, it surprises me that... the law on which the survival of the country depends on the next month, at most two, the law, which will allow solving the issue of the actual physical presence of people at the front, is supported, as you said, and not supported by those

factions that should have supported it first, because there are and were all opportunities to finalize it before the second reading and remain, and be delayed by this law. i, well, i don’t even have an understanding, when i looked at the scoreboard, i couldn’t believe my eyes that it is possible on the one hand, in one, on the same day, on the air it says: that in the trenches 30% of the personal composition and on the same day, don't press a button to just sit down and finalize it later. i have a lot of questions about this law, i also read it, and i am convinced that if i start pouring them into the ether now, then rostislav and andriy and i will agree on about 80 or 90 percent in our critical assessments. but it was definitely not a reason not to vote in the first reading, pulling up,

pulling out this issue, and when we are now discussing in full seriousness what, what, why did the servant of the people vote together, yes, although damn bald people should have voted together for this bill, because we know what's at stake, and still win, in front of those who protect us on the front lines, thanks to who we are in that room in the first place. come on, let's tell our tv viewers that the mobilization does not stop, it has been ongoing for the past two years, and since february 24, 2022, there is simply no new law, but the mobilization is being carried out and is happening, mr. andrii, maybe we will please the enemy with details, and yourself, and yourself with fables, mr. andriy, what do you say about that throw that everything that everything is going well. i'd better pass the word on to my colleagues now, because i'm afraid that i've already offended my colleagues, and they'd better let them

insult me ​​now, you didn't offend, you just said your opinion, mr. andriy, please, well, it's definitely not an insult here, we people are more or less adults and already a little experienced, we have a good political vision and we understand well who is playing which games, if the president of ukraine, the supreme commander wanted to ... order with mobilization, he would have convened the national security council three or four months ago , closed the door, would collect everyone who is well versed in this, and in accordance with article 11 of the law on mobilization, mobilization training, which has been in force in ukraine since 1993, and gives the president all the powers, without exception, to determine the scope, order, postponements, exemptions from mobilization , everything is written there, so if the president didn't want to, seriously wanted to do it, he would do it, and the further i

follow what's happening with the so-called process of improving mobilization, the more it seems to me that that it was initiated by the office exclusively in order to create a basis for the rotation of the military leadership , in other words, for the dismissal of the servile, because it was the president who first announced the figure of 500,000 at his final press conference on december 19 of last year, i don’t know who pulled his tongue, and he immediately questioned her, you remember that, and of course nikita can create certain emotions, that you have to blindly vote for everything that is extremely important, and that he is ashamed that we did not vote, the servants were not ashamed of the first bill, which submitted on december 25, exactly with such a tone , one to one, we need to save the country, let's... let's vote, ended with the fact that neither i nor any of my colleagues voted for him, because he was recalled, because everyone

agreed with that , that it is not suitable at all, that it is totally unconstitutional, and the ministers who, as i understand it, were pressured to support it at the cabinet of ministers on december 24, and then found out that no one saw him in the eye at all, talked about this when the minister of finance says, i'm sorry, i don't have any money, he said it publicly when the shoemaker comes out, says: sorry, it's not... constitutionally a bunch full of provisions of the law, when the head of our police comes out and says: sorry, we will not issue summonses, in the sense of the national police. nikita, that was all, and it’s a shame not for me and not for you, but it ’s a shame for everyone who watches, but the problem is not in the shame, the problem is in trust, which was destroyed by this process, starting from october, november of last year, but now from the outside , february is ending and... you and i know that the president will go to the munich security conference, and in the best case

we will meet at the end of the month, maybe the specialized committee will finalize something there, but when the supreme commander-in-chief, the director of all politics in the country, starts this process in such a way that it is discussed for four months, then forgive me, surely someone really does not want to conduct really improving mobilization, despite the fact that three days ago there was... a clear signal that it turns out that syrsky needs to be audited, because we have a million people in the defense forces, only 300,000 fought, as it turned out, well, sorry, any a citizen of ukraine who is not an expert. there he concludes everything, then why do we need mobilization, if we have 700,000 people who did not fight at all, well , it turns out the same way, at the same time, excuse me, i am silent, how is it possible to constantly voice some numbers that relate to the army in a big war, well, in general, intelligent people voice numbers only to mislead the enemy, and if we voice them, then we

mislead, surely, both the enemy and our people, people? of ukraine, and at the same time, yes, the first reading was voted by the votes of the opz, and i did not vote for it, because i consider it an insult to people, over the military and over the process of mobilization, and the voice of the opzh is really a shame, and it is an abuse of democracy, which moscow agents have been abusing for decades in ukraine. i told some of them to their faces that you guys are lucky, because 100 years ago you would have been taken to the supreme court. council and they would shoot the devil's mother, but we have a democracy, yes, we have everything according to the law, everything according to the procedure, and they vote in unison, and as one opposition faction aptly says, i'm just jealous that they were the first to come up with it, that ex-poses are such political hostages in the verkhovna rada, that they are poor and go and vote for everything in a row, but

it would be good if they only voted, but people should know that they are present at all closed meetings, at conciliation councils. when it was reported that there were a lot of meetings with the military leadership, when they came to pick up the prisoners, it was discussed with the chairman of the verkhovna rada, with the leaders of the faction of the groups, there are two boys who were recently in the opzz and are listening to all the secret information that it is so, my dear, what is it is this thank you, i understand that we all wanted to adhere to the laws in the constitution as much as possible, but we... understand that all these people, both at the level of the verkhovna rada and at the level of local councils, should bear at least political responsibility, we repeat everything that happened in 2004 and in 2014, remember, we are all not very young here, but remember 2004, who could have imagined then that in 2023

nestor shufrych would be the head of the committee on freedom of speech of the verkhovna rada, well, i remember myself on the maidan, you all remember yourself, i hope. yes, no one would in life i did not believe that such a thing could happen. and those guys overstayed, overstayed in 2004, overstayed in 2014, and how terrible it is, after this nightmarish war that is taking place, where we pay daily with the lives of our people, tens of thousands have already died, they are overstaying and overstaying, nikita , i'm sorry, only by the will of ruslan stefanchuk, david rahami and the president's office. thank you. thank you, mr. andriy, let's put an end to this, let's go back to what is happening in general, well, we mentioned this big personnel rotation, 19, 16 commanders, 16 colonels and generals were dismissed from their positions,

igor came from the positions during the dismissal of the platoon leader. flahuta, who once commanded one of the units of the internal forces of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine during the crackdown on the maidan in the 14th year, became the head of the tro forces. naev was fired without any warning at all, he said that it was a mistake, he learned about this dismissal. well, that is, how do you, gentlemen, assess what, what happened, because, well, 16 heads of the armed forces were to be released during the war, well, obviously, for this... there must have been some good reasons for changing them all , that is, what were the reasons for this, mr. rostyslav, well, i will still briefly respond to the previous one, because it is precisely the answers to your question that are important, because this is the only logic in the process, you know, if you vote with a bald devil, then the devil comes out, and we are not sitting in the verkhovna rada to vote with a bald devil, whatever

someone comes up with, i absolutely do not want to repeat theses , much rightly said, i have to say that... in february-march of the 22nd year , there was a time when we didn't need the devils, when we sat down together, worked out, quarreled, reconciled, but worked out such answers to real problems that are still valid and working until today, i think that it will work for many more years, and then, when they decided that the bald devils are closer to us, well, not to us, unfortunately, to the ruling party, they forgot everything that was, and those forces that are really there for ukraine became unnecessary and for the european... choices, so there's actually a very clear answer to all of these question, and there are enough different projects, but european solidarity proposes to remove the wreckage of opzh from. any work in the parliament, someone there proposes to remove the more radical mandates in general, but there are questions regarding the procedure of the constitution, but there are ways, you can do it and negotiate calmly, we have, i apologize, the verkhovna rada

meets once every two weeks, there are enough time to pass all the decisions, and you receive from the president, it was absolutely correctly said here, from the president a position on the same mobilization, and to work out an option that will respond to problems, and not create new problems, and that's why we... voted, colleagues did not vote, because sorry, when a project creates problems instead of solving them, you can't hide it behind any emotions. now, regarding the military leadership itself , does the president have the right to do so, well, he has, it is within his constitutional powers, but you just have to understand that after what has been done, it doesn’t matter what the surname of the commander-in-chief is, commanding all kinds of troops, from different directions, brigades, etc., because the president actually took. on himself all the fullness responsibility for what is happening at the front and around the front, so it will no longer work to hide behind the cabinet of ministers for the ruling party, for the opz, for anyone,

that is why it was made very risky, it is a decision that has very far-reaching consequences, such a reboot is different here, you know, in the press there are different reports, comparisons , who is with the 19th year, who is with the 37th, who is being compared with whom, these are also emotions, but the truth is that now every step and the whole situation at the front will be evaluated through the prism of those who made these decisions, and now it will be very difficult, with each step it is harder to say who is not voting like that here, what aya, what does it mean that there is bad european solidarity, a voice or someone else who does not support this or that decision, i'm sorry if so the stakes rise, then be ready and answer for everything, mr. nikita, be ready to answer. let me agree with rostislav, he raised the topic very seriously, that is, he emphasized a very important story in

a more precise part, a fundamental part in this whole story, i think that this decision of the president of ukraine, it is somewhere , well, in my opinion, in my personal scale, it is somewhere close to the decision to stay in kyiv... february 24, 2022, because this decision, in fact, it means that he does not see no other option for the end of all, well, all of this, except victory. rosyslav is absolutely right, president zenensky made it absolutely clear that he does not see anyone else. chance except for victory, and well, this can be evaluated in different ways, but for sure i treat it with respect, although absolutely

i agree with rosyslav that the stakes are very high, but for me personally, it is much more peaceful to live now in a country that i know for sure that the president of this country does not see any other options, starting with himself personally, except to fight for victory. thank you, mr. andriy , how do you, in short, perceive this large personnel rotation in the military, because, well, we have a whole constellation of generals and commanders who have been fighting for 10 years, and have been fighting for 10 years, now they have been released, and in different the method was released, obviously the experience they have is needed by the ukrainian army, the armed forces. forces of ukraine and the ukrainian people. well , look, first of all, i think it's pretty clear that we're either all going to win or we're all going to lose. we are in a situation

where it is impossible, yes, somehow to share either success or loss. i hope this is absolutely clear to everyone. at the same time , i also have no doubt that volodymyr oleksandrovich, he is a persistent and brave guy. yes, he sometimes does very important and interesting things. but you have to have experience. in certain areas, we all have one problem, you know what, we are hostages of our experience, there are four of us here, we don't really know how to do anything, except what we have done in the last 15-20 years in our professional life, the same applies to volodymyr zelenskyi, and he leads based on the best reasons, but based on his experience, i believe that he made an operational mistake, i'm not even talking about a political mistake, because i had periods there for 20-15 years, to be honest, it turns out that i worked there in two huge commercial organizations, where there were up to 500 employees, and i know very well. that at the same time

to change the entire management, if it even sneaked in, if it turned out to be very bad there on the basis of the audit, it is impossible, because then everything will fall apart, because even if you bring in very high-quality and trained people, they all need time, because everyone works differently, everyone has a different style, different requirements and so on, and in the great war there is one more thing, you have to be a professional, you have to have total confidence in yourself, because in war... soldiers, officers, absolutely, absolutely everyone has to believe in their commander-in-chief, for they risk their lives, they give their lives, and they will to do only for the sake of the one they believe in, the hard-working man had this faith, and he built it for years, he was appointed in the summer of the 21st , if i am not mistaken, nobody knew him then , well, we knew a little about politics, the military clearly knew, the people of ukraine did not know who the zaluzhny was, but during the two years of the great war

, the zaluzhny turned into... the law into a symbol of trust, into a symbol of struggle, now this symbol was removed, using the formal powers that really exist, and they removed not only him, they removed the whole team line. again, rotations are possible, that's normal, i don't know you and i watched, there are probably hundreds of football matches, world cup finals in life, and we see that coaches change, sometimes it is not even clear to us, but it is clear to coaches in order to win, yes, replacements are needed. it is necessary to strengthen, but to change everyone at once, i think that this is a mistake, besides, everyone perfectly understands, going back to experience, that the decisions were made, most likely by these five or six managers of zelensky, where there is no professional military, no , that is, it most likely looks like a political decision, because volodymyr aleksandrovich did not particularly serve in the army, he did not graduate from the military academy, but he

studied in the last five years. years of his political work to certain things, but he was not and is not a military expert and a military professional, but he made this decision, and nikita and i agree that this decision is based on the level of risk, oh-oh-oh-oh, what a serious , and i want to add one more thesis that this decision is taking place against the background of the complete defeat of the foreign policy agenda last year, you and i were certainly happy with the decision to start negotiations, but i said even then that this decision is very important, but it is very difficult to fend off the moscow onslaught, we need weapons and money, and yesterday we all prayed for the senate of the united states of america, but it is already february, when you and i are in in october -november, they were waiting for a decision, that is , the team that was fired, it was not provided with resources, not for war, but for planning, because war is planning, and now a new team that came in, they are

experienced guys, but they don't know what and how many weapons and when they have them will be at the disposal of how they plan the war, all this in a heap says that these replacements, they are unlikely to solve all our problems, and the results of them, i'm afraid we will see much sooner than anyone thinks about it, thank you thank you mr. andriy, gentlemen, we have to take a short break, we will return to our broadcast in just a minute. there are discounts on afida max 10% in psylshynic pam and ochad pharmacies, there are leftovers on gliciset and gliciset max 15% at psylshynic, pam and ochad pharmacies, there are discounts on resistol 15% at psylshynic, pam and ochad pharmacies.

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