but you yourself understand that this is a very terrible weapon, so why am i mentioning this, why are there problems now in the army with shells, and because now in recent months such a very interesting situation has been taking place, now contracts are blocked for those companies with which, let's say yes , pashynskyi deals, how does he deal, pashynskyi heads the association of defense enterprises, the list of this association, in particular, includes these enterprises that supply projectiles to ukraine, what pashynskyi does, he was, so to speak, setting up... in their contacts, he solved problems with various states so that these projectiles went, then he controls the transparency, and he controls the price, by the way, of these projectiles, therefore, according to this association , the projectiles came with a minimum earnings of 3%, which is allowed by the laws of ukraine, and accordingly these contracts, let's say, these are the cheapest contracts in this country, these are the contracts of this association, apart from the fact that they are not cheaper, so you understand, these contracts, well, the vast majority of shells came under these cheap contracts, so the last month...

the implementation of these contracts, that is payment the state's money under these contracts was stopped, that is, the supply of ammunition to ukraine actually stopped, why did it stop, well, because various parties that have a certain relationship with banking and want to get into this topic, by the way, already in these two years any enterprises , who supplied shells to ukraine not from the association, but from the bank, made a margin twice, or even three times more expensive, than the price of the shells supplied through the association. and the funniest thing in this story is that in recent months, pashinsky has been going to nabu, he brought documents, he showed that what is happening in the country is that there is one price for shells, contacts are blocked, but at this time other companies have already agreed contracts with them at twice the price, before that these companies or other companies supplied at twice the price, he provides all these documents, he asks nabu to investigate all this, he asks to stop corruption in the army, in particular corruption of shells , and that... nabu is filing a case against him based on

the events of ten years ago, nabu has not filed a single case for corruption in connection with supplying ukraine with shells, none of these firms, which overestimated the prices by two, three times, we i heard that the sbu is working on this, or some other investigative bodies are working on it, it seems that it is not working on it, why is it not working, but i have a very, by the way, a very big question, but if the matter was only about shells, so that you understand, in pashinska, the best in ukraine from... the village in armaments, by the way, he headed the national committee on national security and defense in the former government, why? and because he has very vast knowledge, he actually understands the technical characteristics of almost all weapons, only he has a little less connection, he has some knowledge there, but with the guys, but in matters of technology, missiles, he knows everything, he knows everything about airplanes, he knows every airplane or every

ship that is in the armament of this world , so that you understand, that is, he is really a very deep specialist, and accordingly he was able, this is his mission, to provide the army with domestic weapons, maybe this will be some new information for you, but in such circumstances we are forced to reveal it, all the good weapons that are at the front, pashinsky is behind it, you know sau bohdana, which is now considered one of the best in the world, is behind it pashinsky, he is the father of this sau bohdana. mortars, which now the funds are simply, simply dismantled, come back alive, okko, all these volunteer organizations that buy mortars for the front, believe me, believe me, this too, there is father pashinsky, lng, father pashinsky, the novator car, which too praise, father pashinsky, by the way, so that you understand again, the price, if sau bohdan's price is 2 million dollars, then, for example, sau krab, which we supplied from poland, is 13 million euros, two and 13 are

the difference, but also an innovator, one price , so that you understand, cossacks, and this is such a similar car, each kuzak is 2 million more expensive, that is, so that you understand, yes approaches, this is a person who made it his mission, in this life, to ensure army weapons, by the way, my life, my life and the lives of my brothers at the front depend on it, the life of the whole of ukraine depends on it, which is behind us. because now a person is cleaning up, who, by the way, is in very difficult conditions, he is not a favorite of the authorities, you understand this perfectly, yes, that is a person who is not an official, a person who is actually in the opposition, a person who, only with his head, his managerial and patriotic talents, managed to make it so that the weapons that come to the front, he has a relationship with it, who else is such a person in ukraine , who, here is who, whom bankova was carrying out now, yes , who, who else from... the gunman, the gunman in

ukraine, we know, yes, many people are writing and shouting that the west should give us weapons, but i tell you i will say, we are here at the front, we are mainly fighting with domestic weapons, that's the situation. stuns, by the way, are nobody, behind this too there is a lot of corruption, so that you understand , so his destruction, well, you know, this is now the problem of the whole country, and the tragedy of the whole country, hello, this is not his tragedy, and not the tragedy of his family, you know, now there are places in ukraine worse than prison, there are many places in ukraine worse than prison, so this is not his tragedy, but actually it is the country's tragedy, it is the tragedy of my survival, not even his survival, but my survival at the front, you understand what, in why curiosity, and yours, and mine, and everyone's. who is not on the front as well, because we understand very well who is holding the horde on the front line, we have a few minutes, but very briefly, it should be if, if arrests, permission should be issued by whom, in the middle of nabu, for this, for this action, and well, how to act here, again, not

against the law, we are talking about legal actions, well, but somehow it will be considered by the court, it will be considered by the court, but i will simply be convinced that it will be an arrest, because otherwise it would not it was done, it is being done again and... i understand, it is in order to squeeze the person behind whom there is cheap provision of the front, yes, people want to come in who want to make money, as in grand theft, people who have something to do with the authorities, but it’s the lunch that doesn’t float like that, you know, you understand, but i, for example, at the front don’t even care how much weapons are purchased, and i understand that if they get their hands on everything now, they will simply destroy it, there will be no money, no weapons, if for, if now someone there is a raiding enterprise, doing business with bohdana, there will be no more bohdana, and i understand that , that it is destroyed precisely for this purpose, because they saw, oh, some person succeeds , let's take it and make good money from it, well, if you don't succeed, you won't succeed, so what's the problem, by the way, i'll ask at the end, and when they promise

shells, well, in order to at least, as they say, eliminate sanse's thermobaric weapon, no one promises anything, i mean cheap contracts. blocked while these cheap contracts are there, not cheap contracts are difficult to implement, because immediately the public will shout about it, so it is necessary now to remove a person and after that , i think, the provision of the country with shells will go, but with a different price, with a different price, let me tell you right away, other companies have already been doing this in smaller batches for two years, but they supplied shells twice or three times more expensive than the association of defense enterprises headed by pashynskyi, and accordingly, i think, now it will all start... you know, when there is nothing to compare it with, nobody will even be able to talk about corruption, why? because, unfortunately, there is now such a situation that in the west the number of shells is decreasing and decreasing, they become a scarce product, prices rise accordingly, and accordingly, when a supplier disappears in ukraine, which has

, let's say, the price of the actual cost of supply, yes, there will be nothing to compare it with, and other suppliers will simply tell, oh yes, yes prices have risen. this is not what we agreed on, this is how the prices rose naturally, thank you, and mod, thank you very much for taking the time to meet on the air, at least to comment, thank you tetyana, tetyana chornovol, a service member of the armed forces of ukraine, a journalist who is now, well she did not now at the front, she is during all these two years of full-scale war at the front, and we remember how she defended kyiv, it was her thigh, which was saved, that stopped an enemy tank that was moving from the south ... direction, and well we will follow this case, you know, here we are as journalists, but also we as citizens, first of all, we cannot interfere with anything, but we will watch, monitor, comment, involve people, and of course, there must be justice here, if someone wants, because you can always earn, but you know, even earn in

wartime, if someone already wants to make such excessive money, well, at least definitely not on the lives of soldiers, not on the security of the state, and not on the risk of the existence of this state in general, so we will... monitor this topic further, well , now serhiy zgurets, the director of the defense express agency, the host of the military summaries of the day column. serhii, please, good evening, i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, indeed , many interesting and important details were said by the guests in front of me when they talked about the manufacture and ordering of weapons, i know that some enterprises are now waiting for a month for orders for scarce items that they can manufacture, but there are no such orders yet, they are going to kyiv to seek contracts, so we can see that there are nuances that need to be resolved with the participation of the minister of defense. team of the minister of defense, then we will talk about new forms, approaches to recruiting, to the army, about the situation on the front line, primarily around avdiyivka, and about the production of ammunition for the armed forces against the background of the establishment of new factories in germany, but not in ukraine. more on that in

a moment. so, i will start with the fact that the minister. the ministry of defense of ukraine together with the city council of lviv launched a pilot project of the ukrainian army recruiting center. in fact, it seems to me like working out a new model. interaction of the society of conscripts with the armed forces, and the goal of this initiative is actually for a motivated person to serve where he wants to serve in the ideal version, where his potential and skills, of course, after appropriate and high-quality training, should give the maximum result for a specific military unit or a specific military unit. let's take a look at the story about the recruiting centers of the ukrainian army, which was prepared. espresso correspondent, kateryna oliynyk. everyone who is preparing

to defend the state has the opportunity to choose a phage and a unit. recruiter iryna lutsyshyn shows a list of vacancies from seven lviv brigades, in the ranks of the armed forces, they are looking for both cooks and clerks, as well as grenade launchers and gunners. as of today, we have to open vacancies for all brigades. list there are a variety of jobs, starting with the military. grazing and not only, for example, we have open vacancies for dog handlers, we have drivers, we have operators, and there is even an open vacancy for an accountant. in order to solve the problem of the lack of personnel as efficiently as possible, the ministry of defense of ukraine, together with the lviv city council, opened the first recruiting center of the ukrainian army, it works at the address: 67 kostya levytskogo street. here, specialists tell volunteers about open vacancies in... they advise candidates and conduct career guidance tests. we emphasize

that this is a civilian institution, civilian recruiters work here, all women. this has nothing to do with the activities of tsc tsp. here you can ask questions, see what vacancies there are, actually chat, and you can go further. you can come on the third, on the fourth, you can leave your data. everyone should have a military specialty, not today, but tomorrow. this is waiting for everyone, so it is better to consciously understand what you are strong in, prepare and, being prepared, go to defend the state in a certain time. after a person has chosen a position, recruiters direct their interview to a military unit. with the consent of both parties, a volunteer can enter into a fixed-term contract or a contract before the announcement of demobilization before the service, the future military... or the military will come for specialized training, if we have a volunteer who is recruited,

who has a document from the part that the part is waiting for him, then the tsc tsp does everything possible to arrange this volunteer specifically for service in the relevant military unit, and training centers, every conscientious citizen should not be afraid to go to the recruiting center, because they do not issue bandages here, every citizen can choose for himself. the specialty, the profession in which he can benefit our armed forces. the ministry of defense plans to open such recruiting centers throughout ukraine, in particular in kyiv, zaporizhzhia, dnipro, odesa, and poltava. kateryna uliynyk, nazar melnyk, espresso tv channel. we have seen the essence of this new process. in fact, i think that not everything will be so simple. with such steps, with strengthening. of the ukrainian army will not happen, but the first important step has really been taken to ensure a new philosophy of interaction between

society and our armed forces. and then we will talk about the front line, where there is currently both a lack of people and a lack of weapons. in my opinion, we have delayed somewhat with the scale of mobilization and the search for optimal and necessary solutions to ensure that our brigades on the front line are staffed as much as possible. let me remind you that during the past day, 86 combats took place... this is a fairly high rate of destruction on the front line over the course of several weeks. in fact, it is so high that it is a sign that the enemy continues to try to push through our defense line, but it does not always succeed, rather it does not even succeed, and now we will talk about the most difficult section of the front, which is actually avdiyivka, there, almost a third of the fighting today took place around avdiyivka in different... directions and, first of all, it is mainly in the direction of the highway, which is the main logistical

artery for our group, and now we will talk to one of the officers who knows details of what is happening now in avdiivka and around it, now we have dmytro lazutkin joining us, with whom we will just talk about the state of affairs around this difficult direction of our defense, mr. dmytro, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. nawzai, my greetings. today there were reports that on the one hand some brigades are already rotating, one of the spokesmen said, particularly the 110th brigade. talked about the fact that for the first time they got the opportunity to replace part of the units, they did not say who was rotating them, but they said, well, what is hope, when they saw who was changing them, that they have added optimism, this is actually just the section that is there near koksokhim and in other directions, where the enemy tried and

is advancing, also in other directions it is also very difficult, i would like you to tell in more detail what you know about the latter. .. day, what happened in avdiivka and around avdiivka? actually, really, the situation is very, very difficult, the enemy is attacking avdiyivka from several directions, trying to bypass the avdiyivka coke plant from the northeast, and is getting, getting repulsed actually, because the drones of almost everyone are working effectively brigades that are focused on this direction, and they are nada'. at the moment the main striking force that helps to restrain the invaders and also to destroy his armored vehicles, although it is probably impossible to say that there is an influx of armored vehicles now, after all, it is very, very warm now, and the weather is so seriously positive, and accordingly it is convenient to move only on

asphalt roads, well, tracked vehicles , of course, can move... almost anywhere, but if we talk about wheeled vehicles, then they move either on tracks, or along the forest strips, or along the streets , on dirt roads, although this is also complicated, again, due to the fact that the soil is viscous, the ground is wet and the wheels just fall in there, but less, however, a lot of very artillery shelling, more than three dozens per day were launched by the occupiers, it is clear... the fact is that this destroys the city, destroys its surroundings, affects all work and the general state, including the moral and psychological, but our servicemen hold very dignified defense, there really was a certain rotation, as said the spokesman of the 110th brigade, they have been holding avdiivka for a long time, and the time has

obviously come to refresh the forces that will defend this bridge. at the moment, the balance of losses is clear, that is , the occupiers lose more than 10 times more, and this conditions, conditions the logic, let's say, of the defense of this city. it is clear that there are many dangers, and the possibility of breakthroughs should not be dismissed either. panetro, i think that everyone, well, with such anxiety, they are watching the actions of the enemy from... we are the enemy approaching precisely this logistics terrace orlivka lastochkina there and avdiivka there they say there are 300 m, there are 400 m, this is exactly the section that is there to the north, exactly between kohsokhim and avdiivka, and here is what is happening there, is there an impact on our logistics, how does this fire control over

the route affect our units , are there any difficulties, as we in these conditions, well, provide security. and we get a line of defense, according to all sources, the distance is less than a kilometer, according to this route, that is, the gray zone is even closer, so of course the logistics are complicated by this road, which is the main one and the most convenient, so to speak , transport artery, but the supply of the vdiivka is not only through it, and further south there are also opportunities for evacuation and supply. ammunition , that is, in fact, the situation is very difficult and you can probably call it critical, but at the moment the resistance continues and the resistance is again causing a lot of damage to the occupiers, and this is extremely important, mr. dmitry, there were messages

from general ternavsky, it seems yesterday, when he spoke about the fact that there seem to be special forces entering where... a paratrooper and something different from the russian side, does this mean that there is a constant rotation, and after certain waves, apparently less trained, the enemy began to establish units with a higher level of training in order to ensure the fulfillment of this combat task, primarily cutting the logistical tracks, what do you know about this rotation of the enemy, who has now joined the enemy's potential there, well come on... let's immediately mark such a moment, the occupiers really concentrated a lot of forces here, and accordingly there are various units, yes apply and special forces, and the same storm z and storm b are quite a dangerous enemy, and mobilized, that is, those motorized rifle brigades, tank units

that are now on the perimeter of avdiivka, trying to storm the positions controlled by the defense forces, they are quite well equipped, frankly, frankly it must be said, they have the support of artillery, and accordingly there is action among them. trained units can be, so to speak, somehow predicted that they are planned, their use is primarily planned when going into urban development, therefore that it requires certain skills and certain experience. mr. dmytro, what is your brother saying, what is the current mood of our brigades, of the people who are fighting next to you in this direction, are they predicting any scenarios in advance, what? do they think in this extremely difficult situation? the servicemen of the defense forces show stability first of all and

there is absolutely no panic at all, they work together, well, if we talk about forecasts, then it is certain that the command is more visible, because they have all the information, and accordingly, if , for example, the adopted decision is based on... actions, then it will be adopted when a really optimal moment for this comes, if it is decided to keep it in actions, accordingly, this or that time, then it will have a purpose , but again, i think that it is unlikely that the ukrainian command will reveal its goals and plans, given the fact that after all, war is a path, we know that it is not absolute sincerity and not absolute truth, especially... when now there is a struggle for hundreds of meters, and still war, again, it is not show that we are watching live, so here are all these movements of ours or

movements of the enemy to certain areas, the struggle for each landing, well, it should be covered so very carefully, and extreme questions, i will still ask again about the law on mobilization , i ask this question regularly, what is your attitude... brothers to the process of replenishing their own brigades with new ones, how it happens, if you can say about it, and the question regarding the fact that our parliamentarians quickly adopt the draft law in the most optimal version, which well, it ensures the replenishment of our armed forces with quality personnel, what do you think about this, are we not delaying this process? well, there are plans, i understand that it is already clear when this... law will be adopted in the second reading and, accordingly, it is clear when it will come into effect. it is clear that the training of conscripts must take place, and

it is clear that the ukrainian army needs people who can replace those who have been fighting for a long time, in fact, two years. we understand very well that there are none houses it can't be with ludazher, because ludazher will get hungry again and want to eat again, and accordingly, i don't think there is a special way out, society must be perfectly aware and understand at all levels that we have to fight, we have to fight to victory. mr. dmytro, thank you very much for your time for our broadcast, for your service, for the service of your brothers, and i would like to remind our viewers that it was dmytro lazutkin, an officer from the forces of ukraine, who is currently fighting in the vdiiv region. and then let's talk a little about weapons, about weapons, because we all are we know that now, relatively speaking, the lack

of ammunition on the front line is one of the factors that affects the course of hostilities, its results, the results of these hostilities, and of course, when we ask for supplies, we feel so resonantly that our partners have, in particular beech. but yesterday there was information that zavodal is a german manufacturer of military equipment, starting preparations for a new enterprise on its territory, despite the fact that red metal already has at least five enterprises that it bought from various countries, in addition to its own capacities , it is creating another enterprise in germany, we even have a video related to this red metal. this new factory should produce new ammunition for the needs of both germany and the armed forces of ukraine. let me remind you that red metal is

the largest producer. munitions com now in europe, he has a plan to produce 700,000 rounds of ammunition by the end of this year, and this new facility, which will be established in a year and a half to two years, should initially produce 50,000 per year, and then go to 200,000 per year, that is, in fact, red metal will be to produce 900,000 ammunition per year, and these are actually quite significant figures, because france produces 100,000 b... pas per year, there are three powerful enterprises united in the namo concern, it is there that the swedes, finns and the netherlands produce 80,000 , relatively speaking, together they will produce 1 million somewhere at the end of the 24th, at the beginning or in the middle of the 25th year, but what is important here is that this new enterprise is going to be made for 300 million euros, to be made in a year and a half, there will be work there 500 employees and the potential repeats 50 00, and then with... transition to

200,000 ammunition per year, there is other information that the israeli company elbitt has signed a contract with a customer, with a foreign customer, in order to create the same ammunition production on the territory of this customer, which is not disclosed, in a year and a half there and for $130 million, that is , the process of creating new factories is actually underway, and of course i really hope that our minister... techprom is also currently engaged in this process, because there are partners, there are potential opportunities to expand, our potential due to creation of new enterprises, i will immediately be told that where to build them, if the enemy will launch missile attacks, i will answer, in fact there are a number of places on the territory of ukraine, in particular, where at one time the nuclear ammunition of the soviet union, these ammunition, were stored.

were stored in places that were supposed to withstand even nuclear munitions strikes, that is , there are actually areas, places where we can deploy such production, the question is that it becomes a systematic approach, so that we do not now start hunting there with a target, looking for some violations there in the existing weapons that are provided by the armed forces, after all, systematically put on the tracks of creating a real powerful defense... industry in addition to manufacturers to private companies, contacting those powerful israeli or german companies that are already capable of producing weapons , creating ammunition factories both on its territory and in other countries. i hope that our high officials will feel this trend and draw conclusions so that the ukrainian army acquires new capabilities as quickly as possible. here they are there were the military results of the day, and more international and economic news later in

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