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we return and return with the guest, he is an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies, oleksandr khara, our next guest, whom we welcome, glory to ukraine, good day, congratulations again, glory to the heroes, well, let's start, that's probably all - after all, from the american swallow that flew in yesterday, i mean senate voting, well, and then again. opinions are divided, because some say that a tame head who only listens to trump and reads elon musk on twitter will not even put it to a vote, will block it and it will be blocked anyway, and others say, no, no, this is already the situation that he was driven into a blind corner, well, what is your assessment, according to which scenario will the answer to the question of 60 billion dollars
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of aid and military finance go, well, it is clear that he is in a very uncomfortable position, well, the first thing is that he is already being threatened, that they can remove it. from power, like his predecessor kevin mccarthy, because the predecessor was, shall we say, a rather stupid person from this point of view, to get the position, he agreed to change the rules, and any representative, well, that is, a congressman, can raise the question of removal from power , uh, and by and large kevin mccarthy was ousted too after he helped and he cooperated with the democrats and allowed the vote. the legislation that did not stop government funding, the next was supposed to be the aid package for ukraine, by the way, this time from mike johnson is in a similar situation , but on the other hand, there are workarounds that can, let's say, even if he doesn't want to, even if it's
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a small bunch of these trumpians, but who actually controls the republicans in the house of representatives, they won't want him to bring it to a vote . there is a special procedure that allows you to actually bring such legislation without committee consideration immediately to the full house, and i think now, most likely, mike johnson will be asked to do the right thing, which is to start normal through this bill and give congress a chance to vote and show. his position on ukraine, and otherwise, then he will have to reckon with the fact that this draft law can be passed without him, he, let's say, it needs 218 votes in order to start such
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a procedure, that is, in fact, about six republicans must join to the democrats, and of course there are so many people out there, and they are not afraid of trump, who believe that it is both morally and in the national interest of the united states states, it is the right thing to do. and here i wanted to ask a question, because today i read this information, well, not in anonymous telegram channels, i don't remember which ones, but the source was more or less normal, and it was written that mike johnson allegedly turns out to be that his election campaign was financed by the american itaten company, which actually. to which a trio of russian oligarchs are related, and allegedly this information can also in a certain way affect his compliance or intransigence, could this be the case in principle, well, for the american political community and society, if, for example, it turns out to be true, it's a shame, or is it normal, it's just business, and these people work in america
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, if even if they are russian oligarchs, what's the matter? well, it is quite likely that it was so, and there is really nothing so shameful here, because if, for example, the ambassador of the russian federation in the united states came and made a contribution, it would be one story, or someone from alcheromanov, for example , yes, and when it is a joint-stock company or some other forms, i do not think that such a thorough control over who owns or sits on the board of directors of these companies. of course, these are such things, when they are discovered, they can be used in political struggle, but it is... well , it is difficult to call this kind of political corruption, because american politics, it is related to big money, and it is such corruption, to things, i would like us to have such corruption, not when money is brought to politicians in suitcases, but when there are interest groups that, through
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donations, through contributions to the election campaign, which is transparent, yes, that is, this money was not cachem entered, and let's say, it was led. dear oleksandr, do you dream of open election funds, where everyone donated there, and we can see who actually supports whom, sir, and then it will be possible to see more transparently in seconds how much, who and how they gave to a political party, well this is from science fiction in our realities, i want to approach reality and i cannot understand, well, the chief diplomat of the european union, this is diplomacy after all, and i mean mr. borel, who... suddenly declares that after his reassignment putin's putin in office putin, russia may launch another major offensive, this is a verbatim quote, what is he referring to when making such statements, that is, is this part of an information campaign, or is it just
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that joseph borel has some kind of super intelligence data that we don't even have, well no i think he has something more than the americans, and if it was actually planned, i think that... the cia would be in kyiv again and so on, but in the last few months, extremely positive things have been happening for us. , such as initially analytical centers, first of all... the german and there the estonian ones, started to say that russia has enough chances to restore its potential over time, and there is a difference here, the estonians say two years, the germans say 6-8 years, to restore its potential in order to carry out an attack to one of the nato member countries. in the second moment, it is also extremely important that what barel said was after mr. trump encouraged putin to... attack one of the nato members who does not pay any money for
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its security, that is, such pure racketeer terminology that everyone should pay, of course, what europeans have to pay for their own security, and here they can be criticized, because the same germany itself will not be able to reach 2% of gdp on security itself for more than one year, and by the way, everyone forgets that the second part of this formula is 20% all the money that goes to the defense should go to, well, actually to the new and latest weapons, equipment and other things, and not only to pensions, salaries or some bureaucratic expenses, that's why i think that he didn't say anything new, he says in those in that trend, which is analytical services and related to including intelligence agencies, what is quite obvious, and by the way, after this interview with propagandist tucker clarks. on the furar peace, absolutely understood that this person is a god, gone mad, and she is not waging a war against
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nato, she is waging a war for a new empire, and of course, this cannot but disturb, putin always says that he wants, in fact, you just have to listen to him, and don't react nervously to what he says, just understand that this is palexandre, but look, you, someone says that on the contrary it's all very rationally, and this is simply a picture of the world of chekists and russians, who have always expanded theirs through genocide. the empire by seizing the territories , and others say, he really went out of his mind, as boris nimtsov once said about him, by the way, but 75 million views in the usa, what is that about , what is that, there are so many rednecks who believe in flat the land on which reptiloids run, is it despite the fact that the population of the united states is somewhere around 300 million, that is, we understand that this is a lot, well, you know, i also looked, because among these ... i looked through all this nonsense , and you you know, well, personally, i really don’t like listening
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to putin, his ugly voice, that’s it, but it’s good that there was an english translation and only there behind the screen could you hear the furrero of the russian world, well, by and large, it’s hype, well, he’s not tucker clarson is a journalist , he is a propagandist, it is possible to say that he is engaged in polemics, but it is based on demagoguery, and of course that the great one was... well , everyone says yes, which means that it is necessary to hear the other side, especially if he is asked such acute questions that actually did not exist, and of course that there are those people who believe in the propaganda of the trumpians, that there is control, the mass media, and they, let's say, demonized putin and russia, and it is necessary to give the possibility of revisions, i understood that, but i can be very brief, because , because i still want your opinion. listen, this is information from reuters that putin was allegedly looking for an opportunity to negotiate with the united states to freeze the war, but was
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refused, the meeting was supposed to take place in istanbul , well, he was going out on sullivan, on brinkin, but it did not work, and why did he that feels that it is the reasons for slowing down and why the usa said no , no, well, first of all, first of all, no one said no, this is of course a russian lie, because you know, when katsap opened his mouth, he alone immediately lies, here it is clear, the question... in because this formula, we have always been open to negotiations with our partners, and there are two levels here: first, it means that we need to talk to the president of the united states and they will decide everything about ukraine, europe and so on, well, that is, how in the good old days of grandpa joe, churchel there and roosevelt, this is the first level, the second level, of course, it is aimed at useful idiots, well, russian agents, and we saw that there are quite a lot of them in the senate, well, in the chamber. even more , who are starting to say that peace was almost reached, this unnecessary proxy war of america
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against russia could have been avoided if it wasn't for johnson, biden, whatever, of course, that there are those who simply use such things in political struggle , means against against biden in all elections, so believe in let's say so, it is absolutely easy to start the negotiation process, russia should stop shoot. it is very simple, and then to leave our territory, even if they want to negotiate for temporarily occupied territories, illegally annexed, it all starts with the fact that one side is still... it is clear, that is, it is from this very area that we show the peace formula, 10 toasts for all that is good and for peace in the whole world, only on the part of the aggressor not a single step towards a meeting has been taken, mr. oleksandr, thank you, oleksandr khara was in touch with our studio,
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we are talking about one more a resonant event which it started the day before, we will also do it now. talk, with us is tetyana nikolayenko, a member of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense and automobiles, mrs. tetyana, we welcome you, i'm watching censor just fresh, fresh material and an interview has appeared, i'm talking about the case regarding serhii pashinsky, the chairman associations of the defense industry, these masks show that there were suddenly suspicions about... well , there is fuel kurchenko, how is there oil kurchenko, which has already been leaking for 10 years, but we want to understand from you why the law enforcement officers suddenly acquired sbu with there were some super ones new materials and suspicions to proceed with searches on a case that is 10 years old and kurchenko has been gone for 10 years, well let's remind you, this is a kinder
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surprise and the outer pockets of the criminal yanukovych, why is this all of a sudden, and good day huh? well, to be honest, in fact, all these questions should not be addressed to me, but to get an explanation from them without any manipulation of assumptions, in fact, why having more urgent, let's say, closer in time resonant stories, for example, with last year's investigation, if you remember yes, abuses in the procurement of materials for the construction of roads, the head of the dnipro regional administration, reznichenko, do you remember that, and then why is this story also being investigated, which, if you take the history of eight years ago, okay, well, we can't ban anything on cartridges, it's theirs , if they have a reason, but that's the only thing, if you look at the history of some of these ancient times, i
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think that in principle, the department of semyon crooknose should be about... uh, is this some really legitimate action, or is it when nabu is playing with certain stories there, and so i would like to really kind of call on nabu, right in the near future, to voice their position on how they... everyone is picking on whether this is the only case that has been under investigation for so long, or whether it is a whole some kind of complex, but the review , actually, it’s just funny here, because usually, if there are as many cases as the police say, and then usually there is movement only after, if new super evidence and new ones are found, there is a need
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to review something in the case, there is nothing here there is nothing new, except for the cartoon and the sketch, and we are already a little old people after the novel with you, right? you were talking right now, and i remembered the story, do you remember, there was such a trial against yulia tymoshenko, and there suddenly came out a story that is also ten years old, and maybe even more ancient, about the murder of yevhen shcherbany, ugh, well, here in this case it's just that what worries you is that it's very somehow synchronous, as he says, a coincidence, i don't think so, yes, somehow everything is very synchronous, the lviv arsenal, the regional lviv, which, oh my, former minister of defense riznikov i was fooling around with photos, here are photos of the shooter of these salvos to the mortars, this is another question for reznikov, if you are a minister, do you believe the photos , i mean that it happened synchronously, i will interrupt you and talk about what is actually the history of the lviv arsenal it definitely shouldn't end with the arrest of the left, but it is precisely psyzhov who adds this text, because for
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me it is just so very painful, this question is because it seems to me the most. such a failure not only of the ministry of defense, it is a huge failure of our special services, this story, and because someone likes it or i don't like it, these warehouses were supposed to be inspected by our military attachés, and accordingly, if we are talking about what should be brought to the dock, even to the lviv arsenal, and to the ministry of defense to sign a contract for the supply of ammunition. yes, in this case, here you are now, we will read it later , you will finish it, we will read it all, it's just somehow very synchronous from this point of view, because there is practice, and this practice, unfortunately, continues. that is, if there is a serious fakp somewhere, let's break the hype somehow another information pretext, and in this case interrupting one case with a loud
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case and headlines, millions of tons of chicken were stolen there, and this is one thing that was handed over to the armed forces, no, no, they were not handed over to the armed forces, but they drank it somewhere, i don’t know what the money was withdrawn to the bank, there by companies, and these companies were sold, well, in one word, it's just that this business has not moved for 10 years. but here is one thing, if it was just to interrupt the hype, it is understandable, i would like to ask if there are risks that the work of the manufacturers' association may be paralyzed, and which is headed by mr. pashynskyi, and the most important thing is the price at which they will pass, because despite all the different attitudes towards mr. pashynskyi , he is a serious but ambiguous person in this situation, he simply sells what we need at a good price, and here the question is whether no one wants to sit on the streams, because they are also talking about... well, actually speaking, this nuance is probably for me, it will be extremely uncomfortable for me to comment on the innovation council
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of the ministry of defense, because then i will actually have to become on the side of one of the suppliers, and i would not do that i wanted to, no, but now we are not talking about the ministry of defense, we may be third interested parties here, not from the ministry of defense and not from pashynskyi, but some other people from the other end of the government quarter, but look, if... in addition to her, there are a certain process that i really do not like, and for example, it is not yet clear to me whether the two largest special importers will be transferred back to ukrovronprom, huh, and if ukrainian armored vehicles, well, that is, i will not now defend their right there to contracts, but will be eliminated, and it is now one of the key ones players, and we will, for example, have a... only one player left, without an explanation why he remains one, then this too, well, will raise questions, so strictly speaking, this is already
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a question for the minister of defense, for the head of the defense agency, of procurement maryna bezrukova, that they also comment on this moment, because i would like to understand the procurement procedure, the selection of the supplier, and if, for example, of all the special importers... even the state ones, only one will remain, and then why the choice will be made only in favor of this state one importer, and because if we we will use, for example, the points about receivables, which is also evidence of non-fulfillment of contracts, for now these special importers who will possibly be transferred back to ukroboronprom and the special importer who can remain, then... well, if it does not look very logical, yes, ms. tatyana, the first thing we tell our viewers to keep an eye on for updates on cenzornet is that there will be an interesting investigation about
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ex-regional and defense ministry official liev and in general this whole matter with the lviv arsenal, it is very interesting, and also, ms. tatyana, thank you for the comment at this stage, also until new meetings, when it becomes clearer who and what game is playing around the largest association. manufacturers of the defense industry, the largest defense contractors - orders from the ministry of defense of ukraine, we will come back to you soon, but now there will be a short pause, then news, and then we will be back. tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from rozpak is just for you. with it you can easily cut trees and bushes. it is so convenient to use it for carpentry. it an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1499, a reliable battery is also included, call now and order,
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