really very, very difficult times he has a margin of safety for a maximum of two years, and he , realizing this, wants to move now under any circumstances to this topic of negotiations, to fix what he has won, as he said recently, and this is the main the topic for which he agreed to this interview, and it seems to me that he partly conveyed this idea, but as always very very contrived, well, despite this, they are public. interview carson , speaking literally yesterday at the world government summit in dubai, said that putin wants to end the conflict and is ready to leave for a compromise, the fact that putin is ready to compromise absolutely, well, it was clear from the interview, here the only question is whether in this case ukraine is ready for any kind of conversation at all, because putin's main condition was and remains, this recognition of the new reality, or

simply put, the recognition that the occupied regions of the ukrainian state are part of the russian federation, and this should be recognized by all the united states of america, nato and ukraine, i.e. this is how it looks to him, what, mr. serhiy, the compromise is about, i.e. this is a fiction, this is a deception, this is what the russians want propagandists and putin pass off as... a compromise, in fact there is no compromise , it is a pity that in the west there are people like the mask, who actually, well, play to the very same putin's pipe, and say completely inappropriate things, he says that putin cannot lose, the question is in the problem, and where does such confidence come from, he must lose? why? well, because he

is a war criminal, because his country has violated all principles of international law, and for that he must be punished. that's all. what is elon musk's logic in the fact that, as they say, it will end human suffering. yes, maybe for a few months or at most a couple of years, and then they will be renewed, but on a much larger scale. so, unfortunately, useful... there are no fewer idiots in the west, it is very sad, but this does not mean at all that the western world should pay attention to the kremlin's deceptions, and it is very good that scholz is now in washington, and european leaders in general they are beginning to realize very clearly and clearly that they need to get involved seriously, if america slows down aid, then... everything will depend on

europe, because europe is, first of all, closer and the threats to it are clearly more serious, so i think that despite all these attempts by putin to push the world, the western world head-on, to sow contradictions between america and europe, within europe itself, in the middle of his america, by the way, today i read interesting information from... russian anonymous publics that their main russian goal is not trump, but the split in american society, and the longer and deeper it will be, the less americans will pay attention to russia , here is the answer to the question whether does russia need trump, and does russia need this "divide" policy? and dominate, so

that everything becomes absolutely clear once again . mr. volodymyr , there are farmers' protests again in poland, several dozen farmers blocking the road for ukrainian trucks, a shameful case when ukrainian trucks that crossed the ukrainian-polish border were stopped by farmers, these or, i don't know, whether they are not farmers, who there, well , by the protesters, and they opened the trucks and... poured grain right on the road that was going in europe, already the embassy of ukraine in lublin appealed to the polish, apparently the consulate, appealed to the polish police with the demand to open a case on the fact of the crime, and the ambassador of ukraine to poland, vasyl zvarych, called on the polish side to react decisively to the incident, i quote vasyl zvarych, about such methods of protesters should not

be found in a european civilized country, not to mention the moral side of this provocation, that is why we demand to find and bring the culprits to justice. the polish authorities would have decided to respond in the legal field to... this shameful crime offensive to ukrainians and the majority of poles and to prevent similar barbaric actions in the future, the minister of social economy of poland, czeslaw sekerski, in his statement, criticized ukraine for the incident with the spilled grain that happened on sunday, calling such action is not a completely adequate form of protest, but noted that farmers in different countries often resort to this. we have seen for two or three months, mr. volodymyr, how polish transporters and polish farmers are closing down this big window, which is now very important for us to europe and is trying to prevent ukrainians from trading with european countries, is closing the corridor to us, the main

corridor, because all our ports are now under fire from the russian invaders, why do you think this is... is being done and why, why is there no reaction, a strong reaction from poland, because well , we can also create certain conditions under which polish agricultural products will not end up on the shelves of our stores, and do we need to mirror it like this? well you you understand, mr. serhiy, here is really a question , a very delicate question... the poles, i mean the government, society, they helped and are helping the ukrainians who were forced to flee from russian aggression, the poles help us with weapons, the poles help us in many issues, which

are not publicly discussed, and that's for sure, and for that we should be grateful and we count on the continuation of this assistance from... on the other hand, there are polish farmers who fear that the uncontrolled flow of ukrainian agricultural products to poland, they will bring the fields of these polish farmers to collapse, and this is also true, because our products are cheaper, so they will easily replace the polish ones, and this will mean that the polish farmer farming. will cease to exist, which is tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people, so the polish government has a difficult situation, that is, they cannot but help ukraine and do this and will continue to do so, on the other hand, they cannot help their farmers, as react, well, react,

as always, it seems to me, in such cases subtly, we must really sit down at the table, we must talk about what... can be delivered to poland, and what will happen next, under what conditions, under what control and so on, we should also not be interested in neighboring poland got additional serious problems because of us, this will not bring us anything good in the long run, we still need to join the european union and nato, we still need the polish parliament to support these decisions, and will it support them if we do. .. well, to actually destroy polish agriculture, so here, on sorry, not everything is so simple, but you mentioned mirroring, some things in this regard, it would be possible to apply as well as a preventive measure, well, let’s say

, to fill the shelves of ukrainian stores with polish cheeses, well , maybe, you can reduce them by half, this will give ukrainian agricultural... producers the opportunity to earn more, and why not, like some such small but symbolic steps, it will also be a signal to that side that you will also lose, so let's sit down, let's negotiate. still, in this situation, kyiv probably has an official kyiv to be more, let's say, more proactive in this matter, and try to talk with the polish authorities, because the authorities are new there, that's true, and... to be honest, there was great hope that the new authorities would be different look at this situation , but you see, and donald tusk recently stated that we do not want any groups of ukrainian oligarchs to take advantage of polish ones, i do not

think that this statement is adequate, we do not have such a number of oligarchs who would they took advantage of this, so i think that this is an exaggeration all the more... it is necessary to look for ways to sit down at one table, take technicians, specialists and go through all possible issues with a pencil in hand, and... then submit it for approval by the political leader. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for an interesting conversation, it was volodymyr ogrysko, politician, diplomat, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. during our broadcast, friends, we conduct a survey and ask you about whether you expect further staff rotations in power from zelenskyi. 66% - yes, 34% - no. you want to wake up rested and full of energy, but from the old mattress posti. the whole body hurts , you can't find a comfortable position on the sofa, you need to improve

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greetings, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the second part of the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, today in the release. a big reboot. after the reassignment to the command of the armed forces , further personnel changes in the government are expected from zelenskyi. who can be resigned. quiet release. the generals resigned due to announcements in zmi. problems of information accompanying the change of military leadership. more help from europe. against the background of the delay in american funding, zelensky is going to european friends. what to expect from the munich conference? friends, in addition to the tv broadcast, we are still working on our sites on youtube and facebook, for

those who are watching us live there, please, please, please like this video, and also vote in our poll, today we ask you about such things, do you expect further personnel rotations in power from zelensky, yes, no, on youtube it's quite simple if you're watching us on tv pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you're waiting for... staff rotations in government 0800 211 381 no 0800 211382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end. program , we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce the guests of today 's program, this is mykyta poturaev, people 's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on humanitarian affairs and information policy, mr. mykyta, i congratulate you, thank you for being with me today by us, good evening, rostyslav pavlenko, people's deputy of ukraine from european solidarity,

member of the verkhovna rada committee on education, science and innovation, mr. rostislav, i congratulate you, thank you for joining the broadcast, good evening, and andriy osadchuk, people's deputy from the voice of ukraine, the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on law enforcement, mr. andrii, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us. good evening, sergey. let's start our conversation with a blitz poll as we ask our viewers if they are expecting further personnel rotations in the government, announced by zelenskyi, not only of the military leadership, but also of the political leadership in general. management, perhaps most of our tv viewers do not understand what staff rotations we are talking about, i do not know what staff rotations will be, but still, let's start with mr. paturaev, mr. nikita, obviously you know exactly whether to wait further personnel rotations in

the government, well, political ones, but no, i don’t know for sure, because our faction did not receive any proposals regarding the change of these or other heads of central authorities. what am i waiting for? i am waiting for the appointment of two ministers, who are currently vacant positions, the minister of culture, information policy and the minister of veterans affairs, well, i think that we can safely wait, because there are no ministers, but the minister of culture has been gone for six months, sir nikita, well, that's why i'm waiting for her, because... i'm the head of the profile committee. thank you, mr. nikita. mr. andrii, you are waiting for some changes, well, drastic ones, so that, to be clear, because in the military the leadership, we will talk about it further, changed in three days 16 commanders of the armed forces of ukraine, commanders and those who are generally in the top management, the military

leadership of the state? well, because rotation is possible in military leadership. an individual decision of the president of ukraine , and no one really disputes this possibility, and as for the others, as you ask us about political rotations, i also do not quite understand what this should mean, but surely it means some positions in the cabinet of ministers, and you only what together with my colleague poturaev gave an excellent answer, i will clarify, because i am monitoring this story, today is the 201st day that we have been absent. minister of culture and information policy , by the way, if suddenly someone thinks that there are problems with information policy in the country, then we simply do not have a high-ranking public official who is responsible for it for 201 days, and i think everyone understands the reason, and probably colleagues they will agree with me, well, not because

it is difficult to find candidates, although it is difficult to find them, but it is no less difficult to find votes for any candidacy. in the verkhovna rada, therefore , to be honest, i look with great pessimism at possible full-fledged rotations of political figures, although, of course, i will not be surprised that some new vos will appear in the cabinet of ministers. thank you, mr. andriy, mr. rostyslav, you expect some big personnel changes, well, here you can, i understand, limit yourself to the answer if we have five or six managers in charge. state, then, in principle, all other personnel rotations, they are not so important and so political. well, you know, i just wanted to say that it's short the answer is no, i don't expect it, and the reason is precisely that as long as the five or six managers in the president's office are unchanged, any reshuffles, any appointments, any wo, whether in the cabinet or at the level of regional military administrations there,

or at the level of other central executive bodies there, they will only be cosmetic, and likewise... there will be a general question of whether people remember who our minister is for certain matters, so until there is a very fundamental change in the office of the president, until there is a transition to the approach of the government of national unity or the government of national salvation, or the experts call it differently, so far all these talks, they will be scholastic, and whether it will be vo, whether it will be a certain minister, it really does not matter much, well, i understand, sir nikita, that the servant of the people is not too disposed. in order to reformat the majority, in principle, you are de jure and there is a majority, de facto you have a majority together with the trust of opz. revival, well there and various groups and factions, which in principle give more than 226 votes, and therefore it is absolutely not illogical to ask whether there will be a government of people's trust, whether there will be

a government of a different format, in principle, although, although it is probably worth asking this question, because the same denys shmyhal has been the prime minister for four years of ukraine, and in fact. perhaps, perhaps, it would be worthwhile for zelensky to change the prime minister of ukraine, or all, all positions that exist, well , almost all, they suit the servant of the people, and there is no point in changing people now. well, if somewhere we see a big failure in the economic or financial policy of the government, then maybe these questions would be appropriate. i don't see them today. i believe that the economy of ukraine, and industry and the financial sector, and the financial sector, they are coping. with the absolutely unprecedented challenges facing our country, which are not faced by any other country in the civilized world, this is one, two, as far as

our votes are concerned, so then we can say that where we have a vote for the law and gives 300 and 300 plus votes there, it means that we generally have a coalition with all factions and groups, and this does not happen so rarely, and thirdly, and thirdly, mr. sergey, well, you should not reproach us, because you see perfectly that the same republican party in the united states, it consists of different parts, and it is the majority, but we see that this majority has very different views, and in general, that means, well , the vote depends on these views of these different groups, which is generally critical for us, but it does not cease to be, as far as... the government of national unity is concerned, that is the question that means the government of national unity, well, generally speaking assumes that it includes, well , representatives of all factions of groups, all of them, i want

to emphasize, so we must not forget that we have fragments of pro-russian factions of groups, surely everyone wants them to be included in their representatives in the government of national unity, or we there will be a government of national unity, but not exactly unity? that is, some worthy people will enter, and some will not, well, that's why we have to deal with this very carefully. i believe that we have normal cooperation with all factions, groups in the parliament, i believe that we find the necessary compromises, important for the adoption of laws on which the struggle and survival of the country depends, and i believe that we have a government that copes quite well and professionally with... with the tasks that stand before it. frankly speaking, mr. mykyta, i am generally surprised that there are such fragments in the verkhovna rada of ukraine,

former or not, not even former, they are not former, because they are elected from a party that is banned in ukraine, and this party is opzh, and these deputies sit and pass the laws by which the country lives during martial law, during war, although these deputies, well... definitely not were supposed to be under the dome of the verkhovna rada, just like these 400 deputies of various levels who were elected from the opzh, and in any case, this issue must be resolved, otherwise it simply, well, it looks somehow stupid, there has been a war in ukraine for two years, a big war, and the representatives of the party, which is officially banned in ukraine, it is in principle also in the verkhovna rada, and even more so. is your faithful assistant when you vote, well, we see this in every vote, when opzh joins, when the vote and european solidarity are not

they want to vote for the draft law on mobilization in the first reading, in the version submitted by the government, and the opzh votes, well, that is, it is absolutely somehow incomprehensible, to be honest, for me, for a person who has been watching ukrainian politics for a long time, i... cannot understand how a faction, a whole faction, can sit medvedchuk's former associates and push a button in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, well, that is the answer, you can say that there are no claims of law enforcement officers against them, i understand, first of all, well first of all, well, first of all, when yanukovych insisted tymoshenko, we should have already learned the lesson about the separation of criminal personal and collective political responsibility, this time, well, we could have already learned it, right? so, and secondly, and secondly, i really didn't want to touch on this, but since this topic has already been discussed, yes, i am also surprised, i am

surprised that the law... on which the survival of the country depends on next month, a maximum of two, the law that will allow to solve the issue of really just the physical presence of people at the front, are supported in the composition, as you said, and not supported by those factions that should be the first to support it, and because all the possibilities to finalize it before the second reading are and were and remain, and to delay this law, well... i don't even have an understanding, when i looked at the scoreboard, i didn't could believe his eyes that it is possible to say on the air on the same day that 30% of the personnel remains in the trenches, and on the same day not to press a button, just to sit down and finish the work later, i have a few questions about this law, i also read it, and i am convinced that if i now start

pouring them into... then rostislav and andriy and i will agree on 10%, well, i think that the 80th , if not the 90th in our critical evaluations, but this was definitely not a reason not to vote in the first reading, well, dragging this issue out, and when we are now discussing it in full seriousness, why did the servant of the people vote together, even if it was a bald devil , it was necessary to vote. together for this law, because we know that what is at stake is still to be won in front of those who protect us at the front, thanks to those whom we let's meet in that hall. well, come on, let 's tell our tv viewers that the mobilization does not stop, it has been ongoing for the past two years, and since february 24 , 2022, there is simply no new law, but the mobilization is being carried out and is happening.

mr. andrii, perhaps let's not please the enemy with details, and let's please ourselves with fables, mr. andrii, what do you say that everything is going well, i'd better pass the word on to my colleagues now, because i'm afraid i've already offended colleagues, and they better, let them insult me ​​now, you didn't offend anyone, you just said your opinion, mr. andriy, please, well, it 's definitely not an afterthought, we're more or less grown-up people and already a little... experienced, we have a good political vision and we understand well who is in what games are being played, if the president of ukraine, the commander-in-chief, wanted to restore order with the mobilization, he would have convened the national security council three or four months ago, closed the doors, gathered all those who are well versed in this, and in accordance with article 11 of the law on mobilization, mobilization

training, which has been operating in... since 1993 and gives the president all, without exception , the authority to determine the scope, order, postponements, exemption from mobilization, everything is written there, so if the president did not want to, if he wanted to do it seriously, he would do it, and the further i follow it, what is happening with the so -called mobilization improvement process, the more it seems to me that it was used by the office solely in order to... create a basis for the rotation of the military leadership, in other words, for the dismissal of the meritorious, because it was the president who first voiced it in his final at the press conference on december 19 last year , the number 500,000, i don't know who pulled his tongue, and he immediately questioned it, you remember that, and of course nikita can create certain emotions that you have to blindly vote for everything that is extremely important.

and that he is ashamed that we did not vote, the servants were not ashamed of the first bill that was submitted on december 25, exactly with such a tone, one to one, we must save the country, let's vote, it ended with the fact that neither i, nor any of my colleagues, they did not vote for him, because it was withdrawn, because everyone agreed that it is not suitable at all, that it is totally unconstitutional, and this is what the ministers, who i understand were bent on december 24, to support it, talked about it. in the cabinet of ministers, and then it turned out that no one looked him in the eye at all, when the minister of finance says: i'm sorry, i don't have money, he said it publicly, when the shoemaker comes out and says: i'm sorry, it's not constitutional, it's full of provisions the law, when the head of our police comes out and says: sorry, we will not issue summonses, in the sense of national the police, nikita, that was all, and it 's a shame not for me and not for you, but it's all the same for everyone watching, but the problem isn't...