you are for everything that is extremely important and that he is ashamed that we did not vote, the servants were not ashamed of the first bill that was submitted on december 25, exactly with such a tone, one to one, we must save the country, let's vote, we ended with that , that neither i nor any of my colleagues voted for him, because he was recalled, because everyone agreed that he was not suitable at all, that he was totally unconstitutional, and that was what the ministers, whom i understand, were bent on... december 24, so that they support it in the cabinet of ministers, and then it turned out that no one looked him in the eye at all, when the minister of finance says: i'm sorry, i don't have any money, he said it publicly, when the public prosecutor comes out, he says: i'm sorry, it's not constitutional, it's a bunch full of provisions of the law, when the head once the police come out and say: sorry, we will not hand out summonses, in the sense of the national police, nikita, that was all, and it is not a shame for me and not for you, but it is a shame for everyone who is watching, but the problem... in shame,

the problem is trust, which was destroyed by this process, starting from october-november month of last year, and now from the outside , the month of february is ending, and you and i know that the president will go to the munich security conference, and in the best case we will meet at the end of the month, maybe the profile committee will finalize something there, but when the supreme commander, all politicians in the country start this process so that it is discussed for four months, then forgive me, surely someone really does not want to really improve the mobilization, despite the fact that three days ago there was a clear signal that it turns out it is necessary for syrsky to conduct an audit, because we have a million people in the defense forces, only 300,000 fought, as it turned out, well, sorry, any citizen of ukraine who is not an expert on this draws a conclusion, then why do we need mobs. people who did not fight

at all, well, it turns out the same way, at the same time, excuse me, i am silent, how is it possible to constantly voice some numbers that concern the army in a great war, well, in general, intelligent people voice numbers only to mislead the enemy, and if we voice them, then we mislead, for sure, both the enemy and our own people, the people of ukraine, and at the same time yes. the first reading was voted by opzh votes, and i did not vote for it, because i consider it an insult to the people, to the military and to the mobilization process, and the opzh votes are really a shame, and it is an abuse of democracy, which moscow agents have abused for decades in ukraine. i told some of them to their faces that you guys are lucky, because 100 years ago you would have been taken to the courtyard of the verkhovna rada and shot to hell. but we have a democracy, yes,

we have everything according to the law, everything according to the procedure, and so do they they vote in unison, as one opposition faction aptly says, i'm just jealous that they were the first to come up with it, that ex-opz are such political hostages in the verkhovna rada that they poor people go and vote for everything in a row, but it would be good if they only voted, but people should know that they are present at all closed meetings, at conciliation councils, when they informed that there were a lot of meetings. with the military leadership, when industrious budanos came behind closed doors, it was discussed with the chairman of the verkhovna rada from the leaders of the faction of the groups, there are two boys sitting there who were recently in the opzz and are listening to all the secret information, what is this, my dear, what is this? thank you, i understand that we would all like to comply with the laws in the constitution as much as possible, but we understand that all these people, both at the level of the verkhovna rada and... at the level of local councils, should

bear at least political responsibility, we repeat everything what happened in 2004 and in 2014, remember, we are all not very young here, but do you remember 2004, who could then to imagine that in 2023 nestor shufrych will be the head of the freedom of speech committee of the verkhovna rada, well, i remember myself on the maidan, you all remember yourselves, i hope you remember, but no one in my life believed that such a thing could happen at all . and those guys overstayed, overstayed in 2004, overstayed in 2014, and how terrible it is after this nightmarish war that is taking place, where we pay daily with the lives of our people, tens of thousands have already died, they overstay and overstay, nikita, i'm sorry, only by the will of ruslan stefanchuk, david rahami and office of the president, because this is the easiest way to collect votes, thank you mr. andrii.

let's put an end to this , let's go back to what is happening in general, well, we mentioned this big personnel rotation, 19, 16. commanders, 16 colonels and generals were dismissed from their positions, from their positions during the dismissal of the hard-working plahut, just arrived ihor plahuta, who once commanded one of the units of the internal forces of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine during the crackdown on the maidan in the 14th year, became the head of the tro forces. naev was released altogether, without warning, he said that this... from the media he found out about this dismissal, well, that is, how do you gentlemen assess what happened, because, after all, 16 heads of the armed forces were dismissed during the war , well, obviously there must have been some good reasons for changing them all, that is, what

were the reasons for this, mr. rostyslav, well, i will still briefly respond to the previous one, because it is important precisely in the answer to your question, because it logic is one in the process, you know, if it's naked. with a bald devil, then later the damn thing comes out, and we are not sitting in the verkhovna rada to vote for the treasury with the devil bald, so that someone there comes up with, i absolutely do not want to repeat theses, a lot of correct things have been said, i have to say that in february, march of the 22nd year, there was a time when we didn't need devils, when we sat down together, worked out, quarreled, reconciled, but worked out such answers to real problems that are still valid and work to this day. i think that it will work for years, and then, when they decided that the bald devils are closer to us, well, not to us, unfortunately, to the ruling party, then they forgot everything that happened, and those forces that are really there for ukraine and for the european choice have become unnecessary, therefore there is actually a very clear answer to all these questions, and there are

enough different projects, so european solidarity proposes to remove the fragments of the opzzh from any what kind of work in the parliament, someone there proposes more radically in general. mandates, but there are procedural and constitutional issues, but there are ways, you can do it and negotiate calmly, we have, i apologize, the verkhovna rada meets once every two weeks, there is enough time for all decisions to go through, to get from the president , it was absolutely correctly said, from the president , a position on the same mobilization, and to work out an option that will respond to problems, and not create new problems, and that is why we did not vote, colleagues did not vote, because excuse me, when. .. the project creates problems instead of solving them, you can't hide it behind any emotions. now regarding the actual military leadership, does the president have the right to do so? well, it is, it is included in his constitutional powers, but you just have to understand what happens after that was done, it doesn't matter what

the commander-in-chief's last name is, the commander of the armies, various directions, brigades, etc., because the president actually took full responsibility for what... is happening at the front and around the front, so continue to hide behind the cabinet of ministers, for the ruling party, for opzh, for anyone, it won't work anymore, that's why it was made very risky, it's a decision that has very far-reaching consequences, such a reset here is different , you know, there are different reports in the press, comparison, someone is 19 years old, someone is 37, someone is comparing with whom, well, it's all emotions too, but the truth is that... that now every step and who and the entire situation at the front will be evaluated through the prism those who made these decisions, and now it will be very difficult, with every step it is more difficult to say who is voting wrong here, what aya, what does it mean that there is bad european solidarity, a vote or someone else who does not support this or that decision, sorry , if

this is how the stakes rise, then be ready and be responsible for everything. mr. nikita, be ready to answer, i agree with... rostoslav, he raised the topic very seriously, that is, he emphasized a very important story in a more precise part, a fundamental part in this whole story, i think that this is the decision of the president of ukraine, it is somewhere, well, in my opinion, in my personal scale, of course, it is somewhere close to the decision to stay in kyiv on february 24, 2022. because this decision, in fact, it means that he sees no other option for the end of all this, except victory. rosyslav

absolutely right, president zelensky made it absolutely clear that he sees no other chance but victory. ah... well, it can be evaluated in different ways, but i definitely treat it with respect, although i absolutely agree with rosyslav that the stakes are very high, but for me personally... it is much calmer to live now in the country, which i definitely know that the president of this country sees no other options, starting with himself personally, except to fight for victory. thank you, mr. andriy, how do you, in short, perceive this large personnel rotation military, because we have a whole constellation of generals and commanders who... have been fighting for 10 years, and have been fighting for 10 years, now they

have been released, and they have been released in different ways, obviously the experience they have is needed by the ukrainian army, the armed forces forces of ukraine and the ukrainian people. well, look, first of all, i think it's pretty clear that we either all win or we all lose. we are in a situation where it is impossible, yes, somehow to share either success or simply. i hope this is absolutely clear to everyone, but i don't have it either i doubt that volodymyr oleksandrovich , he is a persistent and brave guy, yes, he sometimes does very important and interesting things, but you need to have experience in certain areas, we all have one problem, you know what it is, we are hostages of our experience, here we are four, we don't really know how to do anything other than what we've been doing for the last 15-20 years in our professional lives, it's the same thing... and he's leading based on the best of reasons, but based on his experience, i believe that he

made an operational error, i don't even know anymore i am talking about a political mistake, because i had periods there, i was there for 20-15 years, to be honest , it turns out that i worked there in two huge commercial organizations, where there were up to 5 thousand employees, and i know very well what to change at the same time the entire management... if it even sneaked in, if it turned out to be very bad there on the basis of the audit , you can't, because then everything will fall apart, because even if you bring in very high-quality and trained people, they all need time, because everyone works differently , everyone has a different style, different requirements and so on, and there is one more thing in the great war, you have to be a professional, you have to have total confidence in yourself, because in war soldiers, officers absolutely, absolutely everyone has to... trust their commanders in chief, because they risk their lives, they give their lives, and they

will do only for the sake of the one they believe in, the hardworking man had this faith and he built it for years, he was appointed in the summer of the 21st, if i am not mistaken, nobody knew him then, well, we knew how little politics, it is clear the military knew, the people of ukraine did not know who such a coward, but during the two years of the great war, the coward turned into an executioner, into a symbol of trust, into a symbol of... struggle, now this symbol was removed, using the formal powers that really exist, and they removed not only him, they removed the entire line of the team, once again, rotations are possible, it's normal , i don't know, you and i have probably watched hundreds of football matches of the world cup final there in our lives, and we see that the coaches change, sometimes it's not even clear to us, but it's clear to the coaches in order to win , yes, replacements are needed, need to be strengthened, but all... to change at once, i think this is a mistake. in addition, everyone understands very well, going

back to experience, that the decision was made, most likely , by these five or six managers of zelensky, where there is not a single professional military officer, not a single one, that is, it most likely looks like a political decision, because volodymyr oleksandrovich in did not particularly serve in the army, did not graduate from the military academy, yes, he learned certain things in the last 5 years of his political work, but... he was not and is not a military expert and a military man a professional, but he made this decision, and nikita and i agree that it's a risk-level decision, oh-oh-oh-oh, what a serious one. and i want to add one more point, that this decision is taking place against the background of the complete defeat of the foreign policy agenda last year. of course, you and i were happy with the decision to start negotiations, but i said even then that this decision is very important, but it is very difficult to fight back. from the moscow invasion, we need weapons and money, and yesterday we

all prayed for the senate of the united states of america, but it is already february, when you and i were waiting for a decision in october-november, that is , the team that was fired is also useful, it was not provided with resources, not for war, but for planning, because war is planning, and now there is a new team , which came in, they are experienced guys, but they also don't know which one and in what quantity. these weapons and when they have them at their disposal how to plan the war, all of this in a heap says that these replacements, they are unlikely to solve all our problems, but... dad them, i'm afraid, we will see much sooner, than someone about it thinks thank you, thank you, mr. andriy, gentlemen, we have to take a short break, we will return to our broadcast, literally in a minute, there are discounts on zipl, 10% in pharmacies, plantain, memory and savings. problems with the joints limit movement, it is

unpleasant and painful. strengthen them. with the help of longits joints, these are bags with collagen and vitamin c to restore articular cartilage. arthritis contributes to the normal functioning of joints and has a positive effect on bone health. dolgit joints facilitate motor functions. stretch the joints. move freely. kratal contains natural components that carefully care for your heart. kratal improves blood supply and the functional condition of the myocardium. normalizes heart rate , increases physical and mental. efficiency. kratal is a natural force for your heart. there are 10% discounts on bronchialik in the psyllanyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts on rezi table, 15% in psyllanyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. shakhtar marseille exclusively on mego. in the battle for one-eighth of the european league, the miners are preparing an unforgettable reception for the french.

february 15 at 19:45, cheer for victory miner. turn on football for... 15% in psarynsky, pam and oskad pharmacies. everyday life is now full of stress and anxiety. melamach b6 will help to cope with these challenges. melatonin, magnesium and vitamin b6 contribute to a full rest and restore strength to b6 melams. full sleep and recovery from bhfz. there are 15% discounts on penger and herpavir. 10% at travel pharmacies for you and savings. vasyl zima's big broadcast. two hours of airtime, two hours of your time. two

hours to learn about the war and what life is like world. two hours to catch up. economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become a native language for many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for intelligent and caring people, in the evening at espresso. verdict with serhiy rudenko, from now on in a new two-hour format, even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests, foreign experts, inclusion abroad. about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and also feedback, you you can express your opinion on the evil of the day with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhiy rudenko, every weekday from 8 pm to 10 pm on espresso.

great return of great lviv, conversations, discussions, search for solutions, the biggest. format of ukraine in the evening prime time. in general , i believe that we need two things: money and weapons. we did not start this war, but we must finish it and we must win. the most important thing - every thursday at 9:15 p.m. , velikiy lviv speaks in the project, on the air of the tv channel espresso. friends, this is the verdict program. we work live. today , three people's deputies are visiting us. andriy osachuk, mykyta paturaev and rostislav pavlenko of ukraine. and since mr. andriy, before our break, started talking about what, actually , how we look from the outside, what, what are our plans in general, and what, what, how the world looks, including us, then oh obviously, the world we

will be watched at the munich security conference, which should begin in just a few days. and volodymyr zelenskyi said that he will present at this conference the vision of 2024, which could be decisive. let's listen to what zelensky said. we are preparing for the munich security conference, an important not only european, but also global platform. ukraine will present its vision of this year, and in many respects a decisive year, of the prospects that exist. in all of us, in all free nations, and which certainly should not be lost, cooperation is important, i am grateful to everyone in the world who realizes this, to everyone who ... helps every leader, every state that want an honest peace, just like ukrainians. mr. rostyslav, if you were to advise president

zelensky, what would you tell him, what should the head of the ukrainian state of such principle say so that on this platform, which is heard and seen and analyzed by all the leaders of practically all countries, all the analysts of the largest institutions , how should it differ... a year from the 23rd, i don’t say the 22nd anymore, you see, you also say the word different, it seems to me that it is precisely in this, and not in words, in deeds and decisions, and not enough would sound the main thing the message of ukraine, because if the president announces there in an interview with italian television that some big changes are coming, new stages and new stages, and then it ends only with a change in... not the changes that, first of all, ukrainian society is waiting for, and that the partners are waiting for, because

the partners, well, the european union, for example , moving to cooperation regarding accession, has very clear conditions and criteria in which democracy, human rights, including by the way, and parliamentary diversity and this is directly written in the documents that ukraine will receive. as for the united states, it is a matter of the fact that the ukrainians themselves are working very actively and to the best of their ability to strengthen their capacity, their unity. here it would be necessary to show that we are united not only in words and that we are not only calling on the whole world to help us, but we are doing the same extraordinary efforts and that in the first place it is the government, because after all, it has the authority, it has the levers and... and to whom much is given, much is given asks, it has, in fact, changed, because we know that, for example, petro poroshenko

has been invited to the munich conference, i will be very interested to see whether this time we will not see another farce, whether this business trip will not be interrupted, and whether here the demonstration, instead of showing unity and new approaches, again demonstrated some jealousy, demonstrated again ... some old patterns, the worst that we have seen, and in the background of this, unfortunately, any inflammatory speeches and any there political technological moves that will be made up, they will not have such importance, because in the 22nd year, the huge advantage of ukraine was that the ukrainian people and the ukrainian army did what no one expected, they stopped the enemy, beat him in the teeth and pushed him away from key cities in the north of ukraine , from the capital in the first place, then... really such an appeal to values, it was absolutely justified and made sense, but from now on we are waiting for very pragmatic, whether we like it or not, new miracles and new changes,

and once again try to pour into the old mykhinov yuno, to tell some bright things again, without demonstrating qualitative changes, unfortunately, then it will be an exchange of some general and beautiful phrases, but we are not waiting for that, we are waiting for decisions about... thank you, mr. rostyslav, mr. nikita, as you can see now, is the west at all ready to listen to ukraine and listen, and most importantly to go forward with ukraine, does everything depend on ukraine, or does something else depend on the west, which is possible in a different way. now begins to perceive what is happening in ukraine? the west is definitely still willing to listen to us, because a lot of people actually are

they realize that terrible things are happening in ukraine, the war has not gone anywhere, we can just spend too much time now, and you and i don't have much of it left on the air, which is probably related to the confusion of the focus of attention, but... to understand that we have not gone anywhere from the information space, it is difficult for me to say what the president will say, because the president has advisers, the president has contact with the ministry of foreign affairs, with ambassadors, it's like that, you know, the story is not very correct, to think what to advise the president, i can say that i am next week, myself i am going as the head of the delegation to the osce, i know that i will speak there, i will speak there primarily about the economy, i will speak there about the need for a decision on the use of frozen russian assets, both public and private, because if they accuse us that we are so expensive, ours is so expensive...

then defense, yes, friends, you have 300 billion, what is the problem, there is still rhetoric, maybe we need to move on to real things, and there will be no need to spend money from your national budgets , i will talk about our civilian prisoners, there a very difficult situation, i will not pretend now, i think that many viewers know about it, of course they will talk about children, they will talk about central problems, in general, i can say that it is clear that the president is unlikely to say this . because it won't be very diplomatic, i would advise the world to leave the series, don't look up, because sometimes what is happening outside of ukraine reminds me very much of the events of the series, don't look up, this asteroid is flying at everyone's head, you have to realize it and not do it, well no

i know the organization of parties devoted there to various interesting topics, nevertheless, to take care of the fact that this astaroets is knocked off this trajectory. thank you, mr. nikita, mr. andriy , what do you expect from the munich security conference, because it is quite a serious forum, and usually leaders articulate all their opinions there, we can remember the year 2007, when putin spoke there about the need for a unipolar world and we have to end it. well, actually, what has he been doing in recent years? yes, there is a lot of interesting things there, but now you say it, i remember, i was there in the 22nd year of a week before the invasion, and they said goodbye to us in a very funny way, in all seriousness, so they shook hands, well, bye, boys and girls, that is , in principle, there are people gathering there who understand well what is going on, you know, i would watch it all a little wider, because i have no

doubt that volodymyr oleksandrovich will be written... a good speech, and it should be noted again that the team that prepares zelensky for such visits, they do their job very well, remember his speech at the united nations nations, the last speech in washington, when he was there, it all makes sense, but i have the feeling that again the banking team wants to continue playing the same game, to bet exclusively on volodymyr zelenskyi, not evaluating the results of the previous two years at all. since october of last year, i have been begging the political leadership and the servant of the people team on all media platforms to completely complete all communication and political narratives and practices that we have used in the foreign policy arena for two years in a row. material. if i were volodymyr oleksandrovich, i would at least step over myself, put on a tie, a business suit, and start not asking and telling people about their

fears. which are really correct, what mykyta says is pure truth, you and i understand this in ukraine, but the war has already been completely routinized, it has happened, and if we continue to go and only ask, we will be given less and less. now ukraine should come to the west and offer, offer the future, offer cooperation, offer our military experience, offer our drone experts, well, you can think of it. a lot , but you can’t just ask, that’s why i think it is critically important to review our model of work in the western space in general and to understand that zelensky alone will not be enough, we have to complete our program, andriy osatchuk, nikita poturaev and rostislav pavlenko were guests of our today programs, gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, during this broadcast we asked you about whether

you expect further personnel from zelensky... in power 66% yes, 34% no, this the results of the television survey , it was a program, the verdict was conducted by serhiy rudenko, i wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your family, see you tomorrow until 8:00 p.m., vasyl zima's big broadcast, two hours of air time, two hours of your time, two hours to find out. about the war and what the world is about, two hours to keep abreast of economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like-minded to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast , the project for smart and caring people, in the evening for espresso.