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dear day of the tv channel, now we are adding to our marathon tetyana sapyan, communications advisor of the state bureau of investigation, glory to ukraine, ms. tetyana, congratulations to you, glory to the heroes and good day, marto and congratulations to antina, i am ready to answer your questions, yes, well, what about hrenkevich's case and as far as we understand, her daughter-in-law and your agency, well, not the daughter-in-law, the ex-fiancée, let's put it this way, yes... in any case, she is involved in certain procedural actions, in particular, it is about the possible seizure of her property. if we talk about what she has, and in general, well, marta reacted very correctly, so to speak, that is , she is not formally a daughter-in-law, she is not, she was a bride, and here they, so to speak, parted ways, that now with that story, and therefore unbelievably, antone has already been imposed...

seizure of property in particular, and there is absolutely a logical question, what is the ex-girlfriend, ex-fiancee, artist, in particular, the investigation believes that since in particular this artist was very close to the family of various businessmen, including the son, had a relationship with the son, and the fact that, as it turned out, part of her property was acquired precisely under martial law, she should... reserve the right to check where the funds for the purchase of such property came from, in particular, by the way, to the state register of property rights to immovable property and the register of rights property ownership , information has already been entered about the seizure of the property of the ex-fiancee of the son of a lviv businessman, these are two apartments in kyiv, they have been seized, and we also reported that there is another apartment in...

kharkiv and there is a plot of land, currently there is seizure orders, court orders for the seizure of this property, we expect that it will also soon appear in the registry. ms. tetyana, look, i would also like to clarify with you about the possible information, whether the sbi now has it, that sonia morozyuk took loans, actually forced it the property that should be seized by the state bank of ukraine as collateral for these loans, and what can happen to this property, if it is now pledged for loans, then i understand that there is a legal possibility to confiscate or seize it, to seize it, it will surely be more correct, i don’t have it now, this question was, i clarified in particular, i understand that there are opinions and rumors, and in principle, it turned out that some property of the family of a lviv businessman and an artist was actually mortgaged, and in part even...

the son of a lviv businessman managed re -register your property to another person, which was on it, but i would like to note that this re-registration or mortgage does not in any way affect the procedure for seizing real estate, that is, even if they managed to re-register or arrange a mortgage for other people, this property will still be under seizure, independently from whether or not ownership has changed. ms. tetyana, in general, we would like to ask you about the prospects of reaching out to those people who could, so to speak, lend a helping hand to the lviv businessman, well, because we, for example, have not heard about him, about such a businessman, well, at that level, at the everyday level , relatively speaking, there are very famous businessmen there from lviv and so on, until the time, so to speak, mr. hrynkevich began to be brought to... responsibility, well, they didn't know

him that much, that is, he was not at the top of popularity among those who are called big lviv business there, and accordingly there are certain suspicions that... perhaps someone actively assisted him, well, not for nothing, he received such, in principle, quite powerful orders, you are not kidding antin, that he was not there yet on the forbes list of the hundred best, one hundred richest ukrainians, but i would like to remind you that it seems that things were going quite well for the lviv businessman, having an order from the ministry of defense. i would like to remind you that he offered 500,000 dollars to one of the managers in the main investigative department in order to solve his problematic cases, that is, the person had some wealth, became famous, but not for that, unfortunately, yes

, i can only say that if the point is, you are asking whether someone is involved, it is established in the ministry of defense that the work is ongoing, the pre-trial investigation in this direction is also ongoing and the possibility and involvement of the employees of the ministry of defense who were involved in these orders and these contracts received by the lviv businessman's company are being checked. mrs. tetyana, we would like to discuss with you one of the most scandalous cases of the last period, it concerns bigusinfo, a team of journalists, investigators, who, as it turned out from their own investigation, are employees. security of ukraine, a specific department, and we know that the sbi is currently investigating this case. can you with can you share with us any additional facts about the investigation, at what stage is it now? marta, i would love to, you and i will agree on a separate broadcast and talk about

the investigation of this criminal proceeding, but for now i would like to remind you that not only at the end of last week, the materials of the journalistic investigation case, in particular and... were transferred to the state bureau of investigation, now the investigators get acquainted with the materials, and as soon as there is any news and information allowed for publication, i suggest that we meet with you and discuss it is with great pleasure, ms. tetyana , and fresh news has arrived from your department, so the state bureau of dissolution has sent an indictment to the court against the former head of one of the departments of the uzhgorod district territorial center for recruitment and social support, popularly called viyskomatave, who forced soldiers to build him a private estate, your agency reports on this, how many similar cases in ukraine in general, how many, well, this does not apply to certain employees of the tcc, maybe there were also

of a different plan, abuses related to certain positions, well, accordingly, when servicemen were obliged to do certain things. antin, you know, i think that currently at this stage already in the second, when the second anniversary of the first war and the full-scale invasion is approaching, i can say that in general, the state bureau of investigation, namely violations related to employees of territorial picking centers, is investigating more than 300 , and the qualification goes, what exactly violations can be combined, that it is usually or removal... from military registration, or deferment, such, conventionally speaking, services, deferment from mobilization, or receiving a certificate of unfitness, which allowed this or that conscripted man, gave them the opportunity to cross the border, well,

for example, to go abroad and never come back, i don't i'm talking about all of them, i'm talking about individual cases, and you know that often the state bureau of investigation also reports that this or that group of people... was detained by men on the ground who tried to escape, and what exactly they are incriminating, there are suspicions, it illegal enrichment, this is obtaining an illegal benefit and exceeding official powers, and of course there are cases that are at the stage of announcing suspicions, there are cases at the stage of completing the pre-trial investigation, and there are cases that have already received verdicts, in particular, and usually i know that by in the shopping center in ivano-frankivsk , the situation is the same as that of beatings in illegal relationships there, there is a court verdict, it is 2 years of disciplinary battalion, disciplinary battalion, let's imagine that it is the army plus prison, that is, it is a rather severe punishment, but that is what the final decision is already court, and on given, in this case from the example

you mentioned, we also see that pre-trial investigations are being completed, cases, indictments are going to court, and we are waiting for what the court will pronounce. fair sentences, so that this does not happen again. thank you very much. tetyana sopyan, communications advisor of the state bureau of investigation, was at the espresso restaurant. we thank her. and now. we can already add to our air our next guest, veronika bachal, head of media relations and public affairs the head office of the state emergency service of ukraine in the donetsk region is already in touch with us, mrs. veroniika, we welcome you, i congratulate you, what happened, the enemy, the enemy hit selydovo in donetsk region, people were killed, in particular, it is about four rocket hits and three dead, a child with its mother and a pregnant woman, begged. i would like to tell you a little more about this terrible night, as a result of the rocket

attack on the city , nine multi-story residential buildings were damaged, as well as the building of the medical institution, in the medical institution and in the five-story residential building, people found themselves under the rubble, as a result of emergency rescue operations from under the rubble of the hospital building... rescuers removed the bodies of three dead people, including one child, rescuers also evacuated a six-month-old baby from the second floor. in a five-story residential building , one person was rescued from the rubble, a total of three people died, and 12 people were injured, including four children. ms. voroniko, how long did the search and rescue work last in general at... in two locations, search and rescue operations continued until the morning,

but rescuers also extinguished fires at these two locations, and the last fire was extinguished already after lunch, ugh, well, accordingly, we would like to ask you about the specifics of the work of the emergency services in donetsk region now, whether there are enough personnel, or in general do you need any additional equipment, its personnel is sufficient for... er, we are currently working in an intensified mode, because every day in the territory of the region, the enemy inflicts er blows, er, rescuers are constantly leaving to provide assistance, to eliminate the consequences shelling and other emergency situations, in particular, it is close to the front line, and they work in extremely difficult conditions, because there is always a danger of repeated shelling, as it was in the city of selydovo, when rescuers were already working on a partially destroyed

five-story building, there was also a repeated shelling and hit the hospital. thank you, ms. veronika, veronika bohala , the head of the department of content relations and public relations of the main department of the state emergency service of ukraine in the donetsk region, was on the air of espresso and told us the details of the shelling herring in donetsk region, but now we will have the opportunity to hear from lloyd austin, the minister of defense. of the united states, who now has an opening speech at the opening of the 19th ramstein-format meeting on the defense of ukraine, we would like to understand for ourselves whether there is an opportunity to hear mr. austin now, whether we can turn him on now, our editors say we can, so we'll see together. a given of ukraine. the second anniversary of russia's full-scale invasion of peaceful ukraine is coming soon. we emphasize that it was... an unfair, unprovoked choice by putin.

ukraine is repulsing putin's aggression with exceptional courage, and now the whole world bows its head to ukraine. we started our meetings and we are still united. the kremlin now aims to make the world lose interest in ukraine. but now i am more determined than ever, and i know you are too, that we remain steadfast in our goals, we remain steadfast in our unity, and the united states remains with ukraine, we will help ukraine fight putin's imperial aggression. we, our coalition, which includes more than 50 countries to everything world, we roll up our sleeves and work further in order to act in the interests of

not only the security of ukraine, but also our security. we provide assistance to ukraine on the battlefield, and now we are building a coalition aimed at a long-term, security guarantee for ukraine. today we will work in accordance with the requests submitted by ukraine, in particular, that... to the provision of anti-aircraft missiles, as well as weapons and ammunition. we want to build a foundation for strengthening. defense forces of ukraine in the future, in the event of a protracted war. we we will consider all the requests of ukraine, which are aimed at the short-term and long-term perspective. before us today is an important task, in particular, strengthening the artillery forces of ukraine and providing

the necessary, necessary shells. we will ... ensure that ukraine is integrated into our sky defense network. we will try to make efforts in order to remain undivided in our desire to help ukraine stand up, we will pay special attention to the needs. of ukraine in order for ukraine to fight against putin, with his troops in the coming months. we see that the forces of the russian federation, they are already, they are not surrendering, and we see that it is already the second, winter, when the war continues. we know how ukraine is fighting in the air, on land and at sea, and therefore

we will continue to look for ways to help ukraine in the nearest way. in the future and for the long term. of course, the united states supports aid, supports ukraine, primarily because it is the right thing to do. we understand that putin's aggressive war poses a great challenge to security not only in europe, but also beyond the borders of this continent. we we see the international order. bent, and therefore disregarded both human rights and the sovereignty of the neighboring country, and therefore such a choice by putin will affect global security in the coming decades. while ukraine is fighting for its survival, we cannot stand aside. ukraine will not surrender, and we will not

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of the vox check project. glory to ukraine, mrs. alina. glory to heroes. well, i think that the whole world, all relevant, all possible and impossible analytical groups, trying to understand what carlson wanted to do, what putin wanted to do, who played along with whom. but as a matter of fact , we understand that putin, with the help of carlson , sent several extremely powerful and dangerous signals, that is, one of such messages, i would like you to tell from a professional review, so to speak, about this situation, but in general, we understand that the key task was to demonstrate that putin would be ready to talk about something there, although we understand that he is lying and this is part of his political technology, which is aimed at west. in order to weaken, in particular, president joseph biden, but you have a word. yes, in general , it can be said that this interview was aimed at both a western audience and

a russian one. first of all, of course, it was tucker carlson's audience, his followers. it should be understood that for putin this is a platform that he used to spread his lies, his spread of russian propaganda, because tucker carlson, he has many millions. audience, part of which is a loyal audience that trusts him, and therefore trusts his choice and the speakers he invites, these are people who previously believed in his conspiracy statements regarding covid-19, regarding allegedly secret biolaboratories in ukraine, and also similar dotkers, pseudo-experts who themselves promote similar narratives, because we see a liar who tells fabricated stories . and the western audience sees an experienced narrator who is sure of what he says, and this was part of the danger, since not everyone is interested in the details

of ukrainian history. a general idea is enough for them, and these people then use it the received idea for the formation of an opinion about ukraine about the need for its support. as for the domestic audience, it can be seen that this interview was broadcast there as an example of the fact that putin supposedly has support for the west. and if you look in google trends, then just during the period of active discussion of this interview, the search for the word... putin increased several times, for example, in the russian city of vologda they even arranged a free screening of the interview in a cinema so that everyone could have the opportunity to see it, who may not have access to the internet, but also for balance it is worth adding that the reaction of the event was really different, many western media quickly published materials, described where putin cheated, where he manipulated, and the reaction of fact-checkers in different countries was also quick.

the world, many of them reacted to the interview, they issued their rebuttals. ms. alina , we know that our analysts were also preparing a rebuttal, and i even saw, the initiative is really, that's what they are called, at least in social networks, they made five top lies right on the night when this interview came out, yes, putin's top lie and all these lies of putin were spread at once, and why you shouldn't believe his words, but we understand that, for example, very... many users of the former twitter, current social network x were fascinated by putin, as he knows history well and they even reproached biden that biden is not as educated as putin, that he does not know the history of his country so well, and we understand that the people who listened to all this nonsense, yes, they are not from putin, as you already mentioned, not very they know well the history of neither ukraine nor russia, and in fact, the way they juggle putin uses facts, distorts them and tries

to create an impression. as if he is very well-versed in history, makes an impression on some people, but if we talk about certain people, the so-called experts, who push these narratives in the world, this is also a rather dangerous trend, because we understand that carlson is not the only one who who provides a platform for putin to spread his lies to the world, could you outline the main such personalities who actually do something similar? yes, we analyzed it with the center for combating disinformation. 26 western pseudo-experts, who spread narratives similar to pro-russian ones, and it turned out that their activity has signs of a network, i will briefly describe what these features are, so they appear on the same platforms, the same takar carlson, they are published in the same publications, often these publications have a dubious reputation, they also give interviews to each other, quote each other,

receive the same awards, are often created by them, and in one way or another they are connected to russia, for example, they cooperated with state russian media companies, such as rasha today or sputnik, or visited russia , and they even live there on a permanent basis, for example, tucker carlson was visited by such pseudo-experts as ritar scott, he is a former american soldier, he traveled through russia in the summer, so what a... published his book there about the alleged arms race, also frequent, he is also a frequent guest, a guest of solovyov's show. in addition, takar carlson also had blogger jackson hickle as a guest, and he is also a frequent guest on solovyov, and also this year, already last year, he came to moscow, as he actively covered his

visit in social networks. thank you, mrs. alina, already on... but in the meantime, we will move on and give the floor to irina koval, who has already prepared relevant information for you with the news editor, so iro, we will give the floor to you and tell us what you will tell our viewers and us about in this issue. thank you martha, well, about the most important events, literally in a moment, so wait. it's 4 p.m. in ukraine, and we bring to your attention a news release on espresso tv channel in iryna's studio blacksmith. greetings to all viewers and now to the most important thing. a 33-year-old man was seriously injured as a result of shelling in nikopol, dnipropetrovsk region. the russians hit the city

with artillery. wounded. hospitalized during his life, doctors are fighting.