the uavs were successful there, and so was our active use of uavs, which means that now the russians prevail, at least in this aspect, or were there simply some additional factors, something additional that made this work easier for them? you know, there's such a thing as initiative on the battlefield, sometimes the one who takes the initiative gets an operational advantage, the one who... goes on the offensive, because the one who works as the number one, who takes the initiative, can get an advantage from the effect not surprises, yes, but then it all evens out, here, let's say, it's not only necessary somewhere to break through the enemy's defenses and knock out the enemy's positions, we still need to occupy them, we need to gain a foothold, i have watched many times, both from our side and from the enemy's side, when an operation is achieved... success, but it cannot

be recorded, and those losses , which are then incurred, or those losses that are then incurred when fixing this success, they are not commensurate with what the battle is actually for, so, for example, they jumped into the landing quickly, knocked out a small, small contingent of fp there with drones, jumped into the landing , and then you have to occupy it, yes, and then already when it happens logistics for landings, fpv drones start working. the enemy, everything is falling apart, it is impossible to hold the landing, and the question arises, why did we do it at all, so time will tell, i think that it is necessary to observe and so far it is too early to draw conclusions, in general, in war, you need to be quite balanced in your judgments, well, that’s why that there is a lot at stake in cannes, i will repeat again, in my opinion, it is still too early to say that the russians are achieving any success there, the front, which is dynamic, everything is constantly moving, it is like a living organization it's clear, well, after now we will have

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live and give life. get checked, protect yourself, get treated. knowledge of complex. things are important. knowing about veal saves lives. yes, let's continue the conversation. our previous guest was forced to disconnect. well, you know, the war is going on and it is impossible for a person to hold on for long. however , yehor firsov joined us, he is a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine. and he. near avdiivka in a company of attack uavs i stayed for a long enough time, i congratulate yegore, i wish everyone good health. well, actually, i will say this, that we strongly encourage you to participate in the collection for fpv strike drones, just for mr. yehor's unit, the card number, i

will ask them to bring it out, so that it stays with us here, no, no, it's not that please find me the required collection. er and well, this is also very important, because here, please look, we will also have it for broadcast, i hope for sure, and please join, because drones are needed, without them, well, no way , you have already heard the previous one to our conversation, how important is it in general, well, actually, let's immediately talk about the situation near avdiivka, as much as you can talk about it, because everyone... we see that there was an exit of the russians to our own logistical routes, as far as it's critical in general, and how do you assess, you know, the possibility , i would say, of counterattacking and pushing them out of there with

the forces that we have there now, i understand, that's quite a difficult question, well, as much as you can assess it . yes, yes, let's go, i guess dial again, because you see there are some problems, i will remind you once again about this collection, which is precisely for fpv drones for... well , yegor firsov's unit near avdiivka for his uav company, please look at this card number, well, actually, i will tell a little about the situation there, well, in addition to what was on our card, several interesting events took place there, well, first of all, the 110th brigade,

which held positions in avdiivka for months, is now well, they are taken out for rotation, introduced instead of it... other forces, well, what are they like they talk about it, but they don't announce it officially , well, i won't announce it either, and also at night when the defense forces burned an enemy column near avdiivka, there the russians were preparing to transfer the equipment to avdiivka, but between verkhnyturetsky and kamianko it was destroyed, well and it is also quite good, that is, it did not reach avdiyivka, but in general, as you saw for yourself, it is quite active there... the artillery is working, the russians have stepped up , they are constantly working with aviation, this greatly complicates the situation, well, that is, in principle, now we can say, that avdiivka is like that, you know the center, where a lot of russian forces

have been drawn up, so it's quite, quite difficult there , well, actually, this is the story, i don't know if there is, there is already a connection, yes, please, then bring it out. yes, yehor, please try to tell. yes, well, i was actually talking about the fact that it is very difficult in avdiivka, it is much easier for us, because we work a little on the stretcher. here we are, well, in a certain area, where it is much easier, much easier, but everything is visible, you probably know that avdiyivka is one of my native places, because my family lived there grandmother, i started my service in avdiivka, so, well, we hear and feel all the cabs that are dropped there, by the way the ground vibrates, although our positions are located. well, not in avdiivka , further, kilometers away from it, here and there

, in fact, every day, of course, there are certain, let’s say, calms, but sometimes it is even strange and unusual to feel calm, but nevertheless, then everything starts with new waves , we see the enemy's fists and tightened equipment and the movement of permanent equipment with aerial reconnaissance. our task, here we are, here we are, you are now actually collecting on drones , which interfere with this logistics, because we are looking for the enemy directly on the roads, here they go, sometimes on a tank, sometimes on a bter , they bring something to the bmp, sometimes just a ural goes, which brings either the obk or supplies , or transports personnel, it happens that even we went down... they all go, and then bang, with this 7-inch drone, but

first the equipment stops, then the second, third, fourth, fifth drone strike , and then the equipment burns, burns, here are approximately such shots as you see now on the screen, and so actually, well, our platoon works every day, directly helping our infantry. this is very , very important, but imagine , i will say a few moments, when i set up the guys for an operation, i always say that when the command tells us that we need to make an impression, there is a gun , for example, or a tank of some kind, that not just a tank or some kind of gun, this is a gun that gives nightmares to our infantry, and it is very, very difficult for our infantry, i myself sat under both single-shot fire and under fire when the tank is working or barks, it's very, very, well, well, it's enough to say that it's very unpleasant,

it's sometimes a disaster, and here, in order to stop enemy onslaughts, enemy attacks, drones are needed, drones are used actively, both from our side, so directly and from avdiivka, the avdiivka brigade, which stands directly in avdiivka, even if you look at the statements of the orks in their public, they say that drones are now one of the only obstacles that prevent them from directly advancing on a large scale, because drones are very dynamic, it is very easy to raise them into the air and hit exactly the target where you saw something , a group of infantry, for example, or a tank, for example, or sometimes there is such a story that you fly, for example, at one target, and then bang and see, that immediately a tank and fly directly to the tank. that's why there are different situations, drones are a significant advantage, now i have to say

, for sure, that it is very, very difficult to fly directly in the direction of avdiiv, because the enemy is insanely saturated with rebo, we, of course, have certain secrets, how to fool this rap, to skip, i won't tell you in detail, but nevertheless it is extremely difficult to fly over avdiivka with drones, the enemy is probably all gone there, probably rap, what does he have at all. well, in general, well, avdiivka is the most like this , you know, our position is strengthened, in fact, and of course the fact that they were able to break through there, well, apparently, not only rap is used there, well, strengthened, probably there are some other the reasons why they managed to do it, and 100% rap is the only, let's say, element of what we just face, well, let's do it. avdiivka, i know her very well, sometimes the guys there during the operation just show me

a picture there and ask, where is it, and i immediately tell them, and it’s here and there, so i ’ll tell you that not a single high-rise building has actually been destroyed , where a piece is torn off, or it is simply destroyed, or half of it is gone, there is not a single house, and this, by the way, was a very large city, more than 30,000 people once lived there, and here... the enemy threw it there, well, according to some data 600 aerial bombs, but i do not know the exact data, but i will definitely say that it is hundreds and hundreds, that is, a lot. then every day a fab or cab arrives there, well now every day 50 fabs or cabs arrive there, well no , come on, it happens, it happens in different ways, that is , it sometimes happens conditionally there are a few, it happens that more than 70 are dropped on october 10, there was such a story, that is, they actually

, you know, there in my childhood i once saw a formidable one in pictures, and i thought that... the era of such wars has ended, but no, the style of the enemy’s war has not changed, they just destroy the city, turning it, well, into the ruins, that is, avdiivka , which we all knew there, it is gone, there are just ruins, there are literally a few intact ones left, more, well, like intact ones, there are more or less level buildings, as for how the enemy got there, here exactly the story is as follows that they bypassed avdiivka, realizing that it was practically impossible to take it head-on, there are many very various, let's say, basements, defensive structures right in the city, factories, one of the factories is a coke plant, the largest coke chemical plant in europe for a second, and they

bypassed their avdiivka from the sides, and when they were constantly pouring into the positions, that is, they hit the... positions, hit the positions, hit the positions, any whoop, rob, just a dugout, he, well, it burns, it breaks and actually turns into a position where it is very difficult to hold the defense, and therefore the enemy is gradually 100 m, 200 m, 300 m, taking crazy losses, so we raise a mavik there, or simply we are flying with a knife, and we are flying through what is actually a cemetery, a cemetery, there are also bodies lying there. and technique, i am more than that i will reveal even a small secret , and orientation is important for fpv pilots, that is , you take off and you have to fly a few kilometers there accurately and navigate around some ponds, trees, relatively speaking, and for us very often orientation is actually

destroyed enemy equipment, because you you fly out, for example, there is a field, a forest plantation, a field, but on the burned areas... it is very, very easy for tanks to orient themselves, even when they are covered with snow and everything is even, for us this is orientation, because the equipment is destroyed there are a lot of enemies, so, despite this destruction, they entered and advanced around avdiivka, you repeatedly showed this map, so to speak, making it difficult for us to do logistics right now, that is, in avdiivka... well, not that , that it is easy to be there, it is not difficult to be there, it is difficult to get there now, to drive through, because a reconnaissance drone is constantly hanging, but when the drone notices a moving target, the drones and semi-drones fly out, including those that they also work at night, so logistics of course

the drive-in to ovdiivka has deteriorated significantly, and now the drive-in is straight, well, straight there. well, well, well, you know, in general, this , i would say, the whole battle for avdiivka, it shows that, after all, when we do not have enough, well, such classic ammunition, artillery, eh, well, it is very problematic to hold back the enemy , because it is precisely the advantage in artillery, the advantage in aviation and the impossibility of shooting down this... aviation actually causes that there the roll is very, very strong, it's just that they really cause the greatest destruction. well, a little, come on let's talk about another topic, mykola volokhov and i have already discussed a little about the creation of this unmanned force, what is the command and

the appointment of sukharevskiy to this position, and you know, i would like such a separate such a... well, as if how to discuss how much of my , well, let’s say, i had such a conversation with one of the deputies, precisely the servants of the people, for whom, well, from this conversation, i concluded that for them such a thing is enough, well , serious, why they lead talk about some kind of centralization of all this, as if like very often there is no coordination. in different forces , and they would like it to be, well, for example , the way it is now... it is, when the artillery works, there is the nettle system that they work with, and so what do you think, is it really possible some kind of centralized management of all

these unmanned efforts, for example, such a similar system as a nettle so that, well, at least different groups from different brigades do not aim at the same target and there , well, do not rush to the place where someone is already leading it, uh, yes, well, before answering the question, i will say that in i'm stuck phone, i'm a little in a pleasant , even shocked by people's donations , thank you very, very much, there will be a report from us as always, the best report is a video report, and i would olya, i would suggest to you and in general the espresso channel somewhere - some, a few videos that we will hit with these drones, which we are currently collecting these donations, and here, i think that the audience would be pleased that... it was them conditionally there 100 hryvnias participated in took part in the burning of some kind of enemy equipment, which means , going back to your question, the idea is very

correct, creating such a separate genus troops, moreover, and a commander like sukharevskii, who was assigned there, with the call sign barsuk, is, i would say so, one of the best. trench of brigades , which is directly combat cambric, directly, which was a significant part of his, his service, and there i think that almost two years directly on the battlefield, his last direction is the direction, by the way, including avdiyivka, and i repeatedly encountered him and his boys, believe me, it was organized there in... well, just in the best way, this is one of the best brigades, they were perfectly selected there are places for command posts, firing

positions, they thought out the operation very carefully, i repeatedly crossed paths with their pilots , who are one of the professional pilots, so why am i saying all this, the person who headed the direction is professional, i have no doubts about him. professional abilities, he is one of the best, there is another question, what will happen next, because sukharevsky , no matter how cool a military manager he is, he will not be able to provide us with drones, because these are some other, let's say, directions, including in the first place it is the government, to what extent i know, for example, that the situation is very difficult right now, for example, with government orders for... drones, as if there was an application for a million, what will we get, but as you can see, i am now on your broadcast collecting money

for us in the drone division, although already our unit, well, it will almost be a year, the way we work, the way we give results, and for some reason we received little, very, very little from the state, 90% of all, let's say, drones, that's... directly like that to donate, there businessmen help, volunteers help, we conduct such broadcasts and collect them, well, i i think that everyone will understand what it is like to be without drones at all, when you can hit this tank, you have the strength, people, skills, but there are no drones, and here the story is that not everything depends on sukharevsky, let him kamra is 100 times better, here everything will depend on the adjustment of the system, i really hope and i ache for it like no other, that the system will be adjusted, that we will soon stop this one, i would even say, well, not what is there

not not a shameful practice, yes, but a debilitating practice regarding drone fees, and finally we will start receiving these drones from the state, and the last moment, you are right that you referred to the deputy, they said that the deputy says that... there are certain inconsistencies between the units and so on, i am even pleasantly surprised that we have such deputies who understand a little what is happening on the front, there are inconsistencies, there are even often conflicts between aerial reconnaissance, not even that, between attack uavs and artillery, the struggle for aerodevelopment, who, for example, will correct us, the drone, as a rule, there will be. .. and they will be the percussionist to remain on the final principle, sometimes this happens, that is why there are such internal

disagreements. there are not a few of them, they need to be solved, i am convinced that sukharevskyi will deal with this in the near future, he understands the situation well, but here is the story about security, these are of course huge issues, i really hope that the government will also do this, well, let's say yes, conclusions about your mistakes in the past, well, you know, i got the general impression from this communication that the political... management believes that a lot of drones are lost wrong, the losses are too great, and if you develop such a system, it seems that as less is lost, there will be less need, and this even surprises me, but it seems to me that this is unfortunately, their main direction now is that in what direction are they thinking, does this mean that there will also be

a direction of... production, well, i hope, well , aljazeera writes there that we, we are already drone manufacturers, who produce 90% of drones of our own production, and in it is developing, but this is the situation at the moment, and see how much it really is, if at all to say about the costs of drones, well, objectively, these claims that the costs of drones are large, small, how justified are they, because how many drones are lost there per day. listen, well , i invite any military correspondent directly to us to work at the position, we will come, and there any vonkor journalist will be able to see, it is not a secret that one group, group, it is conventionally four to six fighters there , are able to use 10-20 drones per day on average . relatively speaking, the brigade that... and by

the avdiiv direction can easily use 100 drones per day, most of these drones will fly directly to the targets, i say most, certainly not all, and whoever will be in charge here, let the best general there be in charge there or i don’t know some elon musk will be in charge of this unit, there will still be some losses, because there is rap, there is a malfunction of the initiation board, there is a lot. banal, sometimes you fly into the branches because you saw them only 2 m from your camera, different things happen, but most drones fly to their targets, a drone is expensive, it’s lazy, you probably already know that a drone costs about 2000 hryvnias, even now there are less than 15 and 16, but which one is capable of disabling a howitzer, a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, and an armored

personnel carrier , and anything, and... it seems to me that the style of thoughts, that is, how to make it so that drones are used less there, this is a wrong style, it is necessary to increase production, this million is declared, this is a very subjective point of view, subjective objective figure, why, but imagine if the enemy makes 5 million, 5 million, can they afford it this year, i think that is easy, china is open to them, they are already... launching factories and even buying out factories in china for the production of components for these drones, so this million can be a tiny drop in the ocean if the enemy does much more, so we need to improve efficiency, of course, we need to improve the ability of fighters to use drones, this is a continuous process, but it sets itself the ultimate goal that we must provide ourselves, at least ourselves with drones... so

that it is enough, that is, we still need to have for starters, these drones and that's all , so join in, this is another meeting, and we hope from mr. yehor that there will also be some interesting things for us from this, we will see the result of our actual meeting, thank you very much to yehor firsov, he is a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine , and he is actually in the mouth of the attack uavs, well, you and i are in this. i'll see you in a week, but in the meantime, watch the news on the espresso tv channel.