modestly silences this event, but the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine confirms that this impression of this ship was made by the magura naval drone, and already commenting on the destruction of another russian military ship in the black sea, nato secretary general jen stoltenberg noted that the displacement of the black sea fleet of the russian federation by the western parts of the black sea is a great achievement and a great victory for ukraine. and according to intelligence , most of the crew of this large landing ship, which was destroyed in the black sea, did not it was saved, said andriy yusov, a representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, everything went according to plan, as a result, the armed ship was destroyed and cannot be restored, there was ammunition along with the cargo, and it is not known for sure how many people died there.

mr. general, well, we see another success of ukraine, which has sufficient modest naval capabilities, and it is clear that russia has always tried to show, to demonstrate strength in the black sea, and it is clear that for them , what is happening in the black sea can to call such a strategic defeat, because they always thought that the black sea fleet. this will be their advantage in this region, and here are the statements that are being made now that let's negotiate there, depending on ukraine, there with the world, depending on what the actual situation is, that's what the representatives of the kremlin say, but how you evaluate the actions at sea and how ukraine actually managed to limit the actions of the russian invaders. in the black

sea? well, we are still far from the final victory, including at sea, but it is significant achievements, moreover, it must be said , despite the failure of actions in the campaign last year on sukhadol of the armed forces and defense forces of ukraine, but there were achievements, this is at sea, and the results you discussed, i would like to add, let's say, thanks to such actions.. ... we have established a corridor, very important , economic for us, maritime, agrarian, and not only agrarian, we have provided unique combat operations in the air, the kind of weapons of the wunderwaffe, as putin tried to give out in his propaganda, such as, for example, daggers, iskanders and so on, and in small quantities batteries that the allies handed over to us.

and in general, despite the fact that this kind of air strikes continues, the air force, with our other structures, the defense forces, which are responsible for anti-aircraft missile defense, also successfully performed these tasks, so there is a military aspect here, which you also said to destroy this ship. is ideological, if you like, that is, on this day there was an amphibious operation back in 1981, or when , so this amphibious assault, which was led by kunnikov, was actually destroyed, well in this way, well, soviet propaganda also brought up, i remember this both in the military school and... the academies, where, they highlighted it

in schools as a feat, although, although from the point of view of the military, these people would be slaughtered, i.e. don't feel sorry for the pozhuk soldier, the russian women are insulting, well, maybe the russians were insulting there four times or more, there than and not all the russians there, here, but here is ideologically, that then... this man died, now the ship died, it is very important, it is in our struggle, and we wish that this chain, it does not stop. mr. general, russia has started to use the new zircon missiles against ukraine, and the kyiv scientific research institute of forensic expertise is already talking about this , it says that on february 7... russia

used a zircon missile on the territory of ukraine, which, according to the enemy, is hypersonic. british intelligence has suggested that the russians in... used the k-300 land-based coastal defense system to launch the cerkon, you, as a person well versed in missile technology and countermeasures to these missile technologies, what can you say about this missile and or really it is so unique, hypersonic and so that it cannot be defeated by modern air defense systems. well, first of all, according to the characteristics, this is really a missile that is truly hypersonic, and this distinguishes it from daggers, which are quasi -hypersonic, if the sound is hypersonic, because in order to be faster than the speed of this

dagger missile, it is a missile of the iskander complex, which is being modernized and attached to the plane, and therefore the speed of the missile becomes, as it were, added... the speed of the plane, which means a more difficult target to destroy. zircon has such capabilities on its own without an aircraft, and was developed as a universal complex, first of all a ship, a ship for use and a ship - land, that is, for ground purposes and taking this into account , the universalist is that if it is used there, if the beastion is about the fact that you... said the complex is ground, well, you can apply in this form a speed of up to 2 km/s, i.e. there if the previous one is up to nine waves, the wave is the speed of sound, and ah, so it itself is up to

nine waves, the criterion for whether it is a rocket or anything. is hypersonic, it is with more than five swings, they have all this, well, the approaches are the same themselves, that is, two years ago, that they were the first putin there, he set propagandistic tasks, the commander of the ship, who was armed with the churchmen himself, he went to the north sea on duty, and even then, as scientists, we talked about the need to work. .. in the future, we need to work on an anti-missile complex with the ability to destroy not only the current one, which are iskander mobile, which means daggers, there are also 22,

anti-aircraft missiles, and continue to work on the destruction, which means this kind of missiles, the speed of which is about 2 km per second. and the services must be prepared with the means we have, their small number of these batteries, we know, patriotic samty is being studied as far as possible, there will be time or not the service of these complexes will have time to respond to such actions, at such a speed, there is a question , but there is work to be done, it's just a matter of time and to have and develop a complex that... will be capable, if petriyato and this anti-missile complex that we have now do not manage to destroy them, that's the prospect and the situation. thank you, mr. general, another one happened today meeting of the international support group in

the ramstein format, in the introductory speech at the beginning of the meeting, the secretary of defense of the united states of america, lloyd osin, emphasized that now the participants of ramstein are building a coalition aimed at guaranteeing ukraine's security until death. let's hear what loy dostin had to say. today, we will work in accordance with the requests made by ukraine, in particular, regarding the provision of air defense missiles, as well as weapons and ammunition. we want to build the foundations for strengthening the defense forces of ukraine in the future. in... in in case of protracted war. we will consider all requests of ukraine, which are aimed at the short-term and long-term perspective. before us today is an important task, in particular, strengthening the artillery forces of ukraine

and providing the necessary, necessary shells. on the eve of this meeting , information appeared in the press. that nato is considering the possibility of taking over the coordination of the supply of weapons to ukraine, integrating the ramstein format into the alliance's structures, in order to protect itself from possible changes in the policy of the united states of america. mr. general, why doesn't ramstein keep up with the war and aid to ukraine? because there is a history where they lived there for decades, since the end of the cold war , organized their life quietly, peacefully, calmly and fed up with specific approaches, and now we, and they, and the whole world are falling out of love with such an approach. we will quickly increase, well, what is faster than what they are doing, it is possible, and

we are working to ensure that it is our military and political leadership, first of all, so that this happens, but the inertia is quite large, the same germans say that they can 500-700 projectiles per year, and the task there is to provide ukraine with the next 2 million, of course we need them, but we need these 2 million ammunition now. and not in the bright future, you understand, because depending on the situation that exists, it can be quickly corrected, the capacity can be increased, first of all, it is possible precisely at the expense of ammunition, because we have such means, well, a limited amount, but there are , and therefore if you add ammunition there, it will effectively and powerfully affect the enemy and the enemy. we are waiting for the rest of the planes there since they are still what, well, how much they

can supply now, maybe they will make a decision when the slytak will solve this issue, because i am deeply convinced that according to how to supply, i.e. airplanes on time and so-called long-range missiles, then i am so m "i would like to say that ... this is a political decision, and now, taking into account what they are doing there in the conditions of our war, but a democratic approach, how it is irrationally and ineffectively happening in america, an example of how we should it is to build, then it is ee to will not offend the allies, but that this is politicking, that's for sure, and it can be resolved, today let them accept it, and tomorrow the planes will appear and... we will use them effectively and the same german missiles and taus and american atakams and so on , especially

in those conditions, if they see generals and military analysts tell them in such conditions how to prepare and conduct operations, the same thing, well, and another thing, you know openly, as already resignations, but also active ones talk about it, but politicians play their politics, unfortunately. thank you sir general, thank you for the conversation, it was retired lieutenant general ihor romanenko. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. if you watch us live there, please like this video so it can be trended on youtube and facebook. well, take part in our survey. today we are asking you about whether you support the idea of ​​mobilization for an additional tax. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, or so. or not, write your comment that what do you think about this, and if you are watching us on tv, pick up

your phone or smartphone and vote if you support the moratorium on mobilization for additional tax (0800-211-381), no 0800-211-382, all calls these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. further , we are in touch with maksym rozumny, politician, political expert, doctor. of political science, mr. maksym, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening. mr. maxim, let's start with the political part of the resignation of the military leadership of ukraine. we are talking not only about the head of the armed forces of ukraine, but about the resignation of 16 generals who were actually close to valery zaluzhny. from a military point of view, there is probably some. motivation, and probably in closed mode

, president zelenskyi told journalists about this motivation, who held a closed meeting with my colleagues. well, what about the political component in the conditions of war, such a large personnel rotation, how appropriate do you think it is and what is it can be provoked? uh, well, there is a good version and a bad one. in relation to this question and the answer to it, actually, the good thing is that the new commander-in-chief. general syrsky received carte blanche to form his team of people with whom he is comfortable working both professionally and personally, he is highly motivated, he is ready, so to speak, to get involved in the work immediately, and actually counts on

people with what kind of words does he have... how does he understand each other's consonance, it's good, good, yes so to speak, a version, good news would be for us, and come on, let's believe that it is so, but of course, keep in mind the worse version, the bad version, which actually fits into this political context, i.e. it consists in the fact that together with the industrious general. the people who support him resigned, people, relatively speaking, people of merit, and this, so to speak, regardless of their professional competence, regardless of their qualities, as military leaders happened, and in this case we will also see the consequences quite

quickly, the consequences that will have their own'. and there is a decrease in efficiency, a decrease in professionalism, and so on. well, version 3 is fantastic for me so far, uh, but we'll see. the third version is that, er, valery zaluzhnyi will become a public politician and the people who will actually make up his team will go with him. so far , there are no signs of this, but theoretically, this is also the case. happens well, yes, it can be if valery zaluzhnyi will articulate some political ambitions, because he has not done it until now. against the background of what is happening in ukraine and russia are trying to tell the whole world that they are ready for negotiations, of course, on their own terms. at first, putin

spoke about it in an interview with tucker carlson, then tucker carlson spoke about it separately. that putin is ready for a compromise, but today the minister of foreign affairs of russia sergey lavrov said that russia is supposedly ready for a political and diplomatic end to the war against ukraine, but at the same time russia is not going to return the occupied territories to ukraine, let's listen to what lavrov said. we remain open to politics. we remain open to political and diplomatic settlement based on consideration of our legitimate interests, based on consideration. realities that have formed over many years and have currently led to the current situation, however , in the absence of serious proposals from those who declared war on us, their unwillingness to take into account neither our interests nor the realities on the ground , it will not be possible to reach an agreement at the negotiating table yet, there are no such options are considered

it's a pity that lavrov didn't talk about the realities on the water, because today... a big landing party the russian ship went to the bottom near the occupied crimea, but who are these messages, mr. maksym, intended for, that is, if we enter into negotiations with russia, as putin and lavrov want, then this means legitimizing the right of the strong to war and to seize foreign territories for other participants in world security. right, well, obviously , it’s obviously about, so to speak, a precedent for the entire world public, for all potential aggressors, eh, but not only, not only in this, so to speak, context these statements should be considered, well, we read in to the american press, as if there are sources

of insider information that the russians, putin himself, uh... sent some signals allegedly about their readiness to negotiate and that the americans responded with a refusal, that is , a certain game is being played, and this game, well, it has its own obvious logic in a purely propagandistic discourse, i drew attention to the fact that at the beginning of the year, in january and february, a number of russian... high-ranking officials, representatives of the regime, in one or another interpretation put forward their versions of why actually russia started this war, and it... carlson asked putin directly. in fact , this is a very acute and very inconvenient issue for the kremlin. why was this war started? and

the fact that russia sends out signals, that russia is supposedly ready to negotiate, is an information countermeasure. when it becomes clear to the whole world, and even to the russian population , that this war was absolutely not... necessary and that this war was actually not, it is not clear why, well, apart from the fact that putin retained his power, then er, to say that russia ready to negotiate - this means changing the image of russia, that is it seems to me that it is about a certain part of the world public, in particular the global south, people who do not trust or do not like the west. that they live with the idea that russia is not really such an aggressor, that russia is ready to negotiate, that russia wants its legitimate

interests to be taken into account, and that russia just attacked a neighboring country in an absolutely barbaric, barbaric way, so that it is somehow forgotten , so that it would go off the political agenda, and everyone was discussing that russia is ready for peace, but is it possible that... that ee, putin will be able to return to those people to whom they lend a hand, to whom they talk about something, because what lavrov and putin are doing now, they are trying to convince everyone and the whole world that in principle it is possible to come to an agreement with us, but wait, we delayed a little here the territory of the ukrainian state, well, you understand that these are, as they say, the historical lands of russia, although... well, everyone understands that this is such historical nonsense, yes, which putin has been rebroadcasting for the past 10 years, trying to explain in some way russia's war against

ukraine, to justify what to say, what once somewhere at some intermediate historical stage, the lands of ukraine were part of the russian empire, but he says that ukraine does not exist there, that it was invented by lenin, that the ukrainians were invented by the count. well, in short, everyone has heard this delusion for a long time, but putin wants to look adequate, does he look adequate now after the interview with tucker carson for those people who understand what is happening? i think not, i think that this interview and the latest statements of the general positioning of russia today, it establishes this distribution in the world. that is, people who think soberly, critically evaluate the situation and, in fact , rely on some liberal democratic

values, they perceive all these messages as delusional and completely inadequate, and only confirm their opinion that there is no point in negotiating with putin. actually , it is not the first time that he captures territories in the 14th year. and with crimea, everything was no less brutal in fact, well, although less blood was shed then, but at the same time there is a part of the audience inside russia, which is very important for putin in fact, and outside of it, which ready to understand putin, and for whom these arguments can be interesting and convincing. putin and lavrov are working on this audience today, as we have seen, so this is not about a real agreement, a real

push for agreements and the establishment of some kind of trust between russia and the west, it is the consolidation of russia in the propagandistic, ideological and political positions that it already to date, it has and which it is trying to... protect, mr. maksym, but our western partners seem to understand everything about what is happening on the territory of ukraine and with putin also, but there is no unified vision, and what to actually do with this russia, that is, everyone says that ukraine should not lose in this war, but what does the defeat of russia mean, no one can even talk about the artic until now. that is, what the defeat of russia means is the removal of putin, the deputization of russia, the demilitarization of russia, the de-nezification of russia, that is.

the world understands that putin is one of the threats to the current world and the current situation, in general, which is taking place on the entire planet earth. well, actually, this is already a part of such a western political discourse, many western politicians declare that putin will not stop, this is an existential threat. for the world order and for the liberal democratic world, although it seems to me that at the same time , someone probably perceives it with their mind, but they do not yet feel an existential threat, well, actually, the russian army stormed bakhmut for six months, then stormed avdiivka for another six months, well it does not look

like a threat to america, er, even to europe, well, such a well-fed part of it, and which is used to living in peace, well, that is for russia's neighbors, it's dangerous, yes, but well, it's clear that in such and such conditions, the russian empire will not go to berlin or the english channel, and it will not reach london. that is, there is such a sense of threat, i think that the western elites do not have it, but if we are talking about the defeat of russia or the victory of the free world, then we can hardly talk about any point of certainty, as was the case with nazi germany, with nuremberg process and so on, it is more about the fact

that russia, well, if... it's so simple to say, has fallen into a trap, russia is depleting, russia is degrading, in every way, it is losing its best personnel, military forces, it is losing its, its equipment, it is losing access to technology, it is losing markets, and this process is actually, its opponents, it is absolutely fine, and perhaps even her friends, so -called from among the chinese there. or india, this process also suits us, because, in principle, we are sorry to realize this, but it ’s okay, in principle, this process suits the west, and our allies by and large in terms of geopolitical strategy, and as for some current moments, tactics, now yes, it seems to me that...

the western elites will still somehow gather, concentrate and help us stop a possible offensive there, a breakthrough of the front or something else, which military experts actually warn us about . thank you, mr. maksym, for the conversation, it was maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. in the course of this broadcast, we will talk about... surveys and will continue the poll in the second part of our program, the poll reads like this: do you support the idea from line to line of mobilization for an additional tax, let's see the interim results of the poll: 27%, yes 73% against, these are the results of the poll on tv, on youtube we have a ratio of 25 against 75, in 15 minutes we return to the studio, oleg sayakyan

and... igor reitorovich will be on our air, wait. one step closer, ukraine regains dominance in the black sea equatorial region. we have collected everything that is known about it and will tell you today's issue of bbc ukraine. i am olga palomaryuk. the russian amphibious assault ship caesar kunikov went to the bottom. it is already officially known that... the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense and the armed forces of ukraine are behind the special operation. the kremlin does not comment on the situation, what kind of ship is this and how will its loss affect russia's military strength? i will say frankly.