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defense spending, they are increasing their contribution to the defense industry by more than 3%, from two to three, then there may be more than three, and the west is a little from germany. starting and to the west they graze the rear, it is clear that , let's say, portugal or spain may not be so terrible, but germany, it is still quite close, for example, france, and the czech republic, and italy, they all give less, what will happen to europe, yes, will she be ready to fight back? well, in fact, until it sounds that russian aggression against ukraine is a war in europe, there is no such thing. that russian imperialism is fighting against the european union of nato member countries right now on the territory of ukraine, but a collision is inevitable, because hybrid methods from interference in political processes, financing of proxy parties to

various hybrid attacks on underwater communications in the baltic sea, that which is already happening around spitzbenberg in the arctic, that is, it is obvious. russian by various methods the federation, along with other forces of evil, continue to attack democracy, and our task, in particular, is now to begin the munich security conference, 60 years in munich, it is appropriate to recall that it was here in 2007 that putin actually said that he would form a new order, which is not will be based on respect for international law, for internationally recognized borders. territorial integrity, sovereignty of independent states, therefore, during these 10 years of russian aggression, if in the 14th year it was only the russian federation that began invasion of ukraine, then russia, china, north

korea, iran, where the sovereignty of belarus took place, are already fighting against the west against ukraine in the 24th, so obviously the west and since it will be here in munich, i really hope that we will be able to convince that. .. do not delay the decision to provide ukraine with taurus, because for the 24th year, if you consider the military strategy of ukraine, crimea is absolutely a goal that can be achieved, but for this you need long-range systems, for this you need to have f -16, will be needed for this in the future the latest technology for maritime drones, so don't get discouraged and think, you know, there's a certain cynicism from some of our neighboring countries that... talking about, you know, the scenario that ukraine could lose is quite likely, high risks, therefore, give us more weapons now, because if ukraine loses, then we will become a shield for the eastern flank of nato, we will be able to protect

every piece, which, as biden likes to quote, every inch of nato should be protected, every millimeter or centimeter. member countries of nato will be protected, so this is a dangerous trend , and we need to explain that, friends, it is not possible to sacrifice ukraine, which has not received the necessary weapons all these years, and in fact did not see those hellish sanctions that were supposed to stop the russian economy, and now someone somewhere in his head he already writes off ukraine, prepares himself and calculates that through peace agreements or some kind of peace plan it will be possible... let them loudly include putin's press secretary every morning, but piskov openly said that we started it as a war in ukraine,

and they continued as a war against this collective event, literally, let them spin every morning, ring the bell on their mobile phones, but in this case, look. as the situation looks, even collective european aid cannot cover the volume of necessary military and financial aid to ukraine, even military and military experts have been telling us all morning today. there will be an american delegation, such strange events began there the day before, they scare each other, ultimatums, well, let's say this, a republican who once said: "we support ukraine, now that he has become the speaker of the chamber, johnson says, i will not put it to a vote, but i will not put it all, and here some such moments began, there purely in america, they are safe in relation to putin's nuclear space program and so on, etc." there are debates, reports, discussions, and against this background , such a nervous delegation will come, we understand

that mainly the american delegation that will be at the munich conference is precisely our allies who are aware of the russian threat, but is it possible somehow them to reach this aggressive-trumpian wing, which says that trump will come, restore order, will not give weapons, will eliminate the fifth article in nato, and may even leave nato altogether, well, in one word, this one. the whole psychedelic set of theses from trump, can you get there from munich? well, it is obvious that representatives of the republican party will participate in various meetings, that is, there will be a delegation from the congress, and we have already seen how much our european partners have intensified their visits to washington in order to to convince the usa to remain the leader of the free world and in fact... to demonstrate in practice its contribution to the security of the world

of democracy in general, that is why we read scholz's article in the wall street journal, saw the visit, as well as many other parliamentarians who constantly go to washington and convince, says that it is about the primacy of america, that is, the americans themselves are shooting at their authority now because the domestic political agenda and the struggle for power have become more important than their national ones. interests than world security, and in fact, the chaos of the world is due to the fact that there is no such principled and strict behavior to comply with all obligations, in particular, when we were promised that there would be further continuation and funding and weapons were provided, therefore the european union, europe, including the countries of northern europe, norway , which is not a member of the eu, but of nato, they must understand that european security cannot be held hostage. the situation in the usa, and especially if there are risks that trump will win, so it is necessary

to help ukraine provide everything as soon as possible, the day before yesterday, more long-range systems, more air defense, all the high and sensitive technologies needed for the production of modern drones, drones, and this is the strategy for victory, that is, one cannot think that this is russia's war , were needed from the taurus against only... the country, and for the time being we will quietly prepare our warehouses here, take weapons and in case of defeat, we will be more or less ready, no, it doesn't work like that, that's why our task is precisely to convince clearly in munich what with the aggressor it is necessary to negotiate only from a position of strength, and from a position of strength this is a military defeat, this is a tribunal against russia, this is the confiscation of assets, i really hope that the issue of $300 billion... of the us central bank will finally

have a political decision at the level of the g7 countries passed because the fact that the european union, which is the largest owner or holder, belgium and germany, france, which are holding this money and we are being paid interest on the profits already received, here are the frozen assets, is not enough, considering that the russian federation has a resource advantage, it has behind it china, north korea with... ammunition, they managed to give more in four months than the entire eu and all the g7 countries combined, so here in europe, in particular in munich, there will be a discussion on how to speed up the production of weapons, the latest technologies , like artificial intelligence in production, so too, rebbe , and the experience of ukraine is just right, look at the successful operations at sea, this is already a demonstration of our strength, and... cooperation with countries from the maritime coalition, where britain, norway, we can

do more, so our the accent should be crimea - this is an absolutely realistic goal, only if, as they say, under the conditions when the partners fulfill their obligations that they had to do, we agree, ms. hanna, we literally have one minute, and we want to ask the hungarians if this is an option with coffee, some other similar method will work with them? that they would change their mind and agree to this 13th package of sanctions, which is currently being blocked. we have one minute, please. well, actually, thank goodness the european union already has a lot of creative formats. it is obvious that the existing sanctions did not lead to the effect of stopping the russian economy, bringing it into a state of collapse, that is why sanctions are needed, and we see how motivated both ursula and the partners are, and plus the issue of circumventing sanctions, the use of components of western countries for the production of new missiles, this is one of the important, it is about leadership and european, here

again is orban and they will find a new stranglehold on orban, they will take a soldering iron to coffee again. will the americans be included in a dark room or something? i am talking about the blockade of the 13th package, well, i think that options are being discussed, orban as usual negotiates, tries to get something for himself, to negotiate something for moscow, but the pressure must continue, and this is one of the topics that will also be in munich. ms. hanna, patience to you and success in the conversations at this difficult munich forum, hanna gubko, people's deputy of the previous convocation, she... was then the head of the verkhovna rada's committee on foreign affairs, and now she performs important horizontal diplomacy at such platforms. yes, it's yuriy ignat, the spokesman for the air force command of the armed forces of ukraine. glory to ukraine, mr. yury. groovy glory, congratulations mr. yuri, looking even at this and, at the statistics, we see that it was the most difficult to shoot down, i understood as always

ballistics. we are simply looking at the number of downed and launched missiles, i.e. with ballistics, this is the one... when it does arrive and from what i understand, the kh59 also remains a dangerous missile for our air defense forces, or are we making the wrong conclusions from the point of view of the work results, they are a little wrong ballistics should simply not be difficult to shoot down, you should have something because you know what shot down ballistics in ukraine i think about your question and x59, well, it is usually so if it enters the affected area. goes astray, well, the result is not always 100% , you also have to understand that, even the cruise missiles that were launched today, well, let’s say two two calibers from the admiral makarov frigate were destroyed, but x 101 x55, not all were destroyed, well, but eight still affected, so we can see that the anti-aircraft work today

took place as it is, that is, 13 missiles out of 26 were shot down. in addition to the ballistic ones we talked about with you, xpenter m or km23, which they could also be in vain, they could be, or rather they were used today, these are north korean missiles, we can already find out when the fragments will be found and verified, in addition to these ballistics, we will also add the c300, which also flew from the north today over kharkiv oblast, so actually there are such numbers, you just have to read them correctly. understand correctly what we can and what we cannot. mr. yuri, do we understand well that they are also, well, not completely stupid and draw conclusions from previous shelling, they know what we can, what we can’t, maybe they don't know everything, but they are also analyzing, and this is how they planned today's attack, so that it was not possible to shoot down half of the missiles, well, i just

explained, but it's me, we understand, you explained it to us, we understand it, about... simultaneously launching such the number of missiles to make it more difficult for us? they have always done it, if they simply have the opportunity to launch and have ballistic missiles at all , they will do it, you remember december 29, well , missiles of various types flew and daggers, and cruise and ballistic and s-300 and kha-59, it that's called a combined strike, cut massed strike, cut... by means of air attack, including shohids, this is what overloads the air defense system, you see, sometimes the guys who defend the air space have to reload, the systems directly in the fight to repel there are constant waves of attacks, and the enemy is trying to plan everything simultaneously in one direction or another, so in principle there is nothing surprising

that they use different missiles of different types. the only thing that really ballistics it is possible to get more, more, we see it in the statistics, that is why such numbers are actually possible, we, on the other hand, expect the strengthening of air defense and want the percentage of shooting down to be greater than the 75, previously announced, and the 75% shooting down previously announced, which was in on average, this applies to cruise missiles, it is the caliber x101x555, then we calculated this percentage, now we show all the missiles so that it is clear what to do, mr. yuri, look, here is some logic, we have it from open sources. we'll read it, well , we'll take our shaheds, we'll take the iranian ones, that's right, we will then we are increasing the number of mobile groups, we already have a 50 by 50% option, when we save on

expensive air defense systems, and in a much cheaper way, mobile groups already give a super high result against shaheds and other drones, now even with regard to the ballistics you mentioned, and we know that the patriot showed even better results than the americans expected, are there still... still, as they say , the achieved future, there are still patriot systems that could be transferred to ukraine, we understand that this is a complex system, are they in first of all, they are available in order to transfer , and if there is a political will to transfer it , we would probably still have two or three systems, no, i would say 10 would not have been a problem, at least, because to cover such big front line with the enemy madly. the main air defense is needed. petrio, in its echelon, is one of the longest-range system complexes capable of shooting down aerodynamic targets at a distance

of up to 150 km, under favorable conditions, and even further , the air defense echelon consists of medium-range, small-range, mobile fire groups that you mentioned, which by the way are not 50/50, but the vast majority of bpo. now it is they who are gathering, sometimes even 100%, well, then the echeloned air defense is also closed from the air, a fighter such as the f-16, electronic warfare systems are also part of air defense, so this in the complex should work, and it is working now, the only thing , that we need more systems, more of them are available, the patriot, which i said, can work for aerodynamic purposes, are they airplanes, dwarf missiles or. distance more than 100-150 is the maximum, then in terms of ballistics patriot can only work up to 40 km, so it is clear that with ballistics you need more

systems to cover objects, premium cities in one direction or another, what patriot is doing now and in the end, you saw the protection of the capital of ukraine, directly, which is very often attacked by iskanders, and daggers , and c4 well, we saw 100% effectiveness today in the capital, 90% air defense in lviv, we have one more minute, and what to do with that from belgorod a couple of kilometers away, the c300 takes off women and also in terms of ballistics, there is at least something that can be used to protect the people of kharkiv, well, there is a difficult issue with the front-line regions, but not only kharkiv, but the zaporizhia region is often attacked as well as the dnipro, especially by anti-aircraft missiles. missiles, unfortunately, they have three hundred so many that they do not have enough anti-missiles, such as even the same patriot has and so on, they can use thousands of

assistant missiles, they can manufacture them, so it is more effective to practice and to counter the launchers, from the counter they can be obtained by various means, let's say so, in order to avoid such things. well, it's still better for people, people , i mean, it's better to protect yourself, if there is a threat of using ballistics, you have to go to shelter, then there are no options, the s300 missile is not as powerful as a cruise missile or an iskander ballistic missile , but when it gets into a house like khrushchevka panel, it is accordingly understandable, mr. yuriy, thank you for the prompt inclusion, the spokesman of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine yuriy ignat was with us, but there is a feeling that the enemy looked at what yuri... at a frantic pace ukraine is already east, center and west, transcarpathia and volyn, as well as ternopil, here

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