will be effective six months after its publication, thank you for being with us, i will say goodbye to you until tomorrow, well, in just a few moments the verdict program with serhiy rudenko, let's watch together, good evening, we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, i am serhiy rudenko, this program verdict, greetings to all and... good health to all. today in the program. combo attack. russian terrorists attacked ukraine with 26 missiles of various types. at the same time, the russians complain about the arrival in belgorod. avdiiv hell. a third separate assault brigade reports an emergency critical situation in the besieged city. the defensive operation continues. putin's strategic defeat. ukraine. they want to sit at

the negotiating table with russia again. why did trump suddenly change his rhetoric regarding the war in ukraine? we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with our guests, who will be on the phone in literally 10-15 minutes, they are oleg hrybachuk, politician, former head of the security service of ukraine valentyn nalyvaichenko and veteran of the russian-ukrainian war yevgeny dykiy. however, before that... how to start our big conversation, i suggest you watch the video what were the consequences of the massive attack by the russian invaders on the territory of the ukrainian state, lviv, zaporizhzhia, dnipro, kharkiv region, poltava region and kyiv region were affected. here is footage of the aftermath of the attack in lviv. the first wave took out this window

, the second wave took out there, then again there , then another blow, another blow, well, it was very scary, the child was taken, the child’s vein and just the ship were taken, about 15 classrooms, the school laboratory were very badly damaged with spilled reagents, we have about a quarter of all broken windows, structures, damaged walls, doors. friends, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please like this video and vote in our poll. today we ask you about this.

do you allow negotiations between russia and ukraine in the near future? yes no. please vote on youtube, either with the yes or no button. write your comment below this video if you have a personal opinion. well, if you sit in front of the tv and watch us on tv, if you allow such negotiations 0,800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382. call, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. and we have our first guest yevhen dykiy, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former platoon commander of the aidar battalion, mr. yevhen, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. let's start our conversation with another, massive, combined missile attack on ukraine. russia struck today, and

used missiles for this, 26 different missiles types, 13 russian missiles, the defense forces and the air force shot down, in lviv an infrastructural object was hit, three people were injured, in the buchansky district of the kyiv region, a huge gap was formed as a result of the downing of a russian missile, and... and what, sir yevgeny, here is the current massive strike, which is called a combined strike, how does it differ from similar strikes that the russians have already used, and what could be the consequences of such combined strikes, are our air defense and defense forces ready for this? well, i'm a little surprised by the lack of under the time of today's attack by the shachets, because before that, in the last few... strikes, the russians

made, well, it's not just a combined strike, but it's really a combined strike with all types of long-range means of impression that they have at all, that is, this and... there is a combination of drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, these are three completely different types of targets from the point of view of our air defense, and combining them in one such wave is indeed a very difficult task for our air defense, for some reason this time they did without the drone component, but missiles are combined again, namely cruise missiles of several types and ballistic missiles , again, also of several types, well, well , we see for ourselves that the hit rate is 50%, it is actually quite high, but of course it is not what we would like. here, the russians have the impression that they have already studied very well where we have the density of anti-aircraft weapons, and if a couple of previous strikes, i would say that they

actually lost, because they fired almost everything at kyiv, well, kyiv is covered the most, and beat to beat in kyiv it... kyiv, it is approaching 100%. oh, the russians achieve much greater success when they stop hitting kiev, even now odesa, and when they start looking precisely in the dead of ukraine for those areas that are less densely covered by air defense means. and this time, unfortunately, they paid quite a lot of attention to, well, you can say, the deep regions of ukraine, which are much less densely covered, and that's why. beating only 50%. literally this morning there was an attack on belgorod, and it is not really known who was who or whether the russians themselves simply took and shelled this city, as a result of which people died five people, but the day before the fighters of the legion

of freedom of russia, fighting on the side of ukraine, promised to strike at belgorod region in response to shelling of kharkiv region and to carry out complete demilitarization of we responsibly declare that for every strike on kharkiv, we , the legion of freedom of russia, will strike putin's murderers in the border regions, we will hunt down anyone behind the shelling of peaceful cities and villages, we strike with all the weapons available to us today, exclusively on military facilities, no to the army mr. yevhen, how do you assess the possibilities, first of all, of the legion of freedom of russia, as far as they can deliver these simultaneous strikes on military facilities, we remember how last summer they worked quite actively in the bryansk region and in

the belgorod region, there were whole battles went as far as there are opportunities and resources in order to transfer the war to the territory of the enemy, in order that... these objects, which are probably not as protected as moscow and other cities of the russian federation, as vulnerable as they are, look, look, actually , as far as the capabilities of the legion of free russia are concerned, although politically it is a completely independent formation, politically it is supposedly, well, like russian, anti-putin partisans, but let's be realistic, we perfectly understand that in the military operational plan... they are completely subordinated to the gur of ukraine and actually to kyryll budan, this is, so to speak , the budan project, i would say, the project is very successful, very promising, and it also follows from this what technical capabilities they have, they have the possibilities that ours has gur, with the exception of western models, because there is a very

strict restriction on the part of our western allies that literally no cartridge provided by them can be used on the territory of the russian federation. and when you actually mentioned the battles for shebekin, during the battles for shebekin , a belgian assault rifle accidentally got into the photo, a small-arms, small-arms weapon, my god, but even that caused a whole international scandal at the time, so this is restrictions, that is, they can act, first within the framework of how many personnel they have, and today this is their main limitation, the guys are very zealous, the guys are very combative, but never mind... let's be honest, the mass uprising in russia hasn't started yet, that's the second limitation , they can only operate with ukrainian weapons, actually manufactured in ukraine, and a sample of these weapons is exactly in this video that you showed, that's exactly what they are, they're recording this video, yes, they're recording this video

against the background of the ukrainian komikaze long-range drone , is a long-range comikat drone that it is actually not even manufactured by any of the ukrainian companies, it is manufactured by one of the divisions. hur, well, it turned out that way, i got lucky, i know these very good people, i am literally, literally the other day i actually saw such drones where they are made, we will not specify where exactly, but they are completely ukrainian. you are a product, the west has no right to limit us in its use, and most likely the legionnaires are now being provided with such drones, and they will use them to strike, together with gur itself, they will strike primarily at military industry facilities russia, but today's attack , which killed five orcs there, is most likely not directly related to this story, because this time there were no drones, this time it was a missile attack. there are definitely no missiles in the arsenal of the legion of free russia, moreover, even the use

of missiles of the armed forces of ukraine in that direction, well , to be honest, in my opinion, it is unlikely, much more likely in this case, that it was the orcs in belgorod who died this time from their own missiles that did not reach us, it is just very similar on the state of the russians' technology, let me remind you that , for example, even their pride, the cruise missiles... the actions they launch from strategic bombers, but you never wondered why they launch them all the way over the caspian sea, it's not close way, and in fact, well, their strategic bombers could fly much closer, but we have nothing to shoot them down closer than 100 km, well, let's say 160, okay, but they launch there a couple of thousand kilometers away, and for one simple reason , because they have almost every third rocket at launch falls off and falls down. that's why they launch them over the caspian, but to avoid similar stories, here, apparently,

these were missiles from the s-300, which were simply supposed to fly over belgorod to kharkiv, but some of them did not reach. mr. yevgeny, yesterday the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense carried out a successful operation to destroy a large amphibious ship in the black sea, the caesar kunikov, on which there were 90... people during the destruction by five naval drones, the general stated this already today budanov, let's listen to what budanov said. the crew consists of 90 people, which means how many of them were saved, we will be able to tell the exact number a little later, because the rescue operation of the russians, in principle, is still ongoing, their search and rescue operation is ongoing, they are looking. survivors, as they think , well, so far the results are not very good for them in this regard, the ship brought cargo, from the city

of novorossiysk to the city of sevastopol, the ship was loaded and on the way it was destroyed by drones, that is, i understand correctly, mr. yevgeny, that sevastopol is gradually turning into a demilitarized zone, because, well, in fact, the city of russian sailors, as they... said, in principle, ships will not enter there soon, because it is dangerous, well, it is turning into a cemetery of sunken ships, and actually surface fleet, the surface fleet of the russian federation is massively transferring to the submarine fleet, and how massively, well, in general, the losses of the fleets are not counted in pennants, well, because they drank, that is, the ships can be very different, take some marriage separately, it can also be counted as a separate . therefore, they count in general by tonnage, so after the last two, well, simply brilliant operations

by hur, this is the operation two weeks ago in the donuzlav bay, and this is actually yesterday’s valentinka from budanov, this is the sinking of this caesar kunikov, then after this tonnage, total losses of the russian fleet in the black sea has already reached one third, that is, we have already sunk a third. in general, the entire russian fleet in the black sea, well, the most important thing is that these two-thirds that remained, we actually drove them to stand silently in bays, to be closed by boom barriers, as it was during the first world war, and remember what happened two years ago, complete control of the russians in the entire equatorial region of the black sea, large amphibious ships on a raid opposite odessa, and we are standing on the beaches , digging in, laying mines there, waiting and preparing repel the landing party, what do we have now? now the russian ships are hiding in the bays, from time to time they jump out of them in order to

shoot back with their calibers as quickly as possible and run back, that is, they are now fighting in guerrilla mode. in general, we pay very little attention to this, and in vain. we, well, we are completely focused on what is happening on the land front. meanwhile, we have already won the war at sea. and while our , in general, our war continues and god knows how long it will last, meanwhile, in the military academies of western countries , the training programs are already being revised, but right now, based on our experience and in particular on the experience of naval warfare, this is actually so far , this is so far our greatest military achievement in the last year, we are the first in the history of mankind. i emphasize this, we, not having our own navy, were able to win naval warfare, ukraine, which has a traditional, classic, large navy. no one has ever done this before us. in fact, we were able to overwhelm a large classic naval fleet with a combination of cruise missiles and naval drones. even now

, the same americans are feverishly studying how we did it and are already thinking about how to do it to them. so that their huge fleet with aircraft carriers, destroyers and so on would not end up in the role of the russian black sea fleet, because we showed, in principle, what never happened in the history of naval wars, but now it is known that it turns out to be possible, and by the way, by the way, i will remind you that until the 22nd year we did not produce naval drones, we did not even develop them at all, but in the summer of 22- the first works were started, if you remember, the magura of the first generation, these are the machines that were thrown away. ashore in august 22, when elon musk set us up. we were still a little naive then, we believed that elon was on our side, now he practically does not hide that he is on that side, in fact, but then we they didn't know this, and he cut out the stralins right during the operation, and the first -generation maguras were then washed ashore by sevastopol, now it's the fifth generation, it's less than two years, and in addition to

how much the technology itself has been improved, also worked out the actual strategy and... tactics of correct use, pay attention, they started with various alinigorsk harnyakovs there, which received serious damage, but which were still pulled to the shore by tugs, and it is still, well, potentially repairable, well, really abstract , once after this war, we got rid of the evil in any way we could, but the last two operations in the donuzlav bay, which is now near alupka, the complete sinking of ships with one blow, this is... a really new tactic, this is what we are improving, this is what we are working on myself, of course, at the end , i just can’t help but joke about the fact that in honor of st. valentine’s day, the black sea bulls had a festive dish of caesar salad, it’s wonderful, really we all rejoiced and rejoice for the success of our hurivians and for the fact that we

defeat russia at sea, another story you... about ground operations, now the situation in avdiivka is too critical and, according to reports , the third separate assault brigade, which is there led by biletsky, has entered the city, and they say that it is very difficult to hold the city, and two brigades of the enemy critical damage was inflicted, but the ukrainian defenders have to fight in 360°, and the russians transfer new forces to avdiivka in advance. the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine oleksandr syrskyi visited avdiivka, together with the minister of defense rustem umyerov, and syrskyi wrote in a telegram that he wrote, based on the results of the work, a number of important decisions were made aimed at strengthening the combat capabilities of our military units to prevent enemy actions. we are doing everything

possible to prevent the enemy from advancing deep into our territory and to hold the occupied positions. how do you, mr. yevgeny, now assess the situation in avdiivka, and here is what the new commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine wrote in dry words, but we see the situation when the third separate assault brigade writes that they you have to fight simply in 360°. well, actually the situation there is absolutely critical, and the fate of avdiivka, i think, well, i could be wrong, of course, but i think that the fate of avdiivka will be decided by the nearest. about 48 hours , the fact is that there, unfortunately, the orcs have already cut the only artery, that very road of life, along which all the logistics of the garrison takes place, and no matter how powerful a fortress the coke chemical plant is, and it is a kind of analogue of azovstal, but without logistics it is impossible to stay there, but as long as the road of life works, for now in fact, they go there, the bk goes, and from there they are taken out

in threes, but you can fight there until then, for now this road is cut off. that's why i think, i won't reveal any secrets, there are quite obvious things here, why exactly the third assault brigade was thrown there, the key word is assault, that is, it is a brigade that was preparing specifically for offensive assault actions, and in particular it was preparing specifically for assault actions in the conditions of the city buildings, this is included in their preparation, and it is clear that they are now tasked with unblocking the avdiivka garrison, they are tasked with rejecting orcs back from the track, if within a day or two it is possible to move the orcs at least... a kilometer from the track, that is, in the position they occupied two or three weeks ago. then one story: then we can talk about bringing more reinforcements there, renewing a serious defense and so on. if in a day. two, it will not succeed, then i think that the same units that now, after all, went in precisely as assault units in order to attack the enemy, well, if it still does not succeed, then in

that case i think that they will already the task is to organize a corridor for the organized exit of our garrison, eh and i’m not, i absolutely will not take it upon myself to decide which of these two scenarios will work, because this is a war, and many things are shown only by combat, eh, we threw our really best attack aircraft there, but with .. on the russian side, the superiority in terms of manpower is at least tenfold, at least, and at the same time, there is not only a naked prisoner from these storms z, just in the last two weeks, the last still combat-ready units of special forces were transferred there russians, that is, they are also professionals who know how to fight, in particular in contact, close combat, in urban buildings, that is, the battle there is really the most terrible, and it is a war, or it will be possible to push the orks away. or we will have to leave, and i say, we don’t have long to wait, let’s just keep our fists together, put candles there, who is there how, for our boys, girls, who are now, well, there is still

an attempt to unblock the city, but if it if it doesn't work, there will be a departure, well , i can say from the good side that there will definitely not be a story like with bakhmut, when the retreating units had to immediately dig in with shovels themselves in a new place, the second line of defense was already dug in, already prepared, if they were to retreat to... it, but well , let's just see now whether we will have to do it or not. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we are live and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are watching us live right now, there, please like this video to promote it in youtube and facebook trends, and take part in our vote, today we are asking you about whether you allow negotiations between russia and ukraine... in the near future, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have any separate opinion, please write it in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv,

pick up your smartphone and vote if you allow negotiations with russia in the near future: 08021-381, no, 0800 -211-382, all calls to these numbers are available free of charge, call us, we will sum up the results of this vote at the end of the program. next, we have valentyn nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on integration of ukraine with the european union, former head of the security service of ukraine. mr. valentin, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. it is not in vain that we ask how our viewers, tv viewers, feel about possible negotiations with the russian federation, therefore that... russian dictator putin once again hinted at his readiness for negotiations and compromises with the west to end the war in ukraine, as he believes the west will not

be able to inflict a strategic defeat on russia. let's listen to what putin said. if they see that they are not getting the result, then it is necessary to make adjustments, but this is already a matter of the art of politics, because politics, as is known, is the art of compromise. is ukraine ready for any compromises, mr. valentin? you need to understand why putin says this, and you know, he says a lot pseudo-historical nonsense, which no one in the world even takes seriously, many absolutely absurd things, which my american colleagues and i have been working quite actively for the last two or three days, they are really shocked by what he said to the verse and so on, but returning to... to ukraine, we will be ready to achieve the main thing: the ousting of the occupying forces from the entire territory of ukraine, and this is our position, and the most important thing is that we

stand for this position and offer peace formulas, that is , realistically looking ahead, as possible and necessary, firstly, to push out the aggressor, secondly, what the whole world is interested in, believe me, all civilized countries, is the restoration of the internationally recognized borders of ukraine. after this guarantee that this will not happen again and the borders of any country will not be called into question, we are especially actively supported in this aspect by the member states of the european union, great britain and the united states of america. third, our position and our readiness is only in one thing, that the anti-putin coalition, we are part of it, well, it is clear, as a country that is a victim of aggression, but for the anti-putin coalition... of ukraine and ukraine to achieve the restoration of peace in our internationally recognized borders, moreover, such a peace so that it is

permanent, it is clear that already. and maybe we will talk about it with you today, strategic decisions are made internally, within nato, and within the european union, and these decisions primarily concern the strengthening of defense, the production of modern weapons systems and modern cyber defense systems of each of the countries, including ukraine. well, that is, if the world begins negotiations with putin regarding the recognition, as they repeat , quite often, of the new territorial reality, or simply put, they recognize that russia has the right to those territories which it occupied and annexed in ukraine, this means that a world precedent will be created, wherever - which other country, china, for example, can claim a part of russia, mongolia can claim a part of russia, germany can claim königsberg and kaliningrad, germany can claim gdansk, that is, all countries. then

they can, referring to the experience of russia, simply use it, right? well, you and i understand, and seriously speaking, that at the head of these countries that you named, and others, and the united states, we must also name japan, that is , the whole big seven, well, they are led by adequate people and mentally healthy people , and they understand that all this nonsense, you know, is absurd, absolutely about some 13th, 14th or some other century. where russia was, where mongolia was, it's all about nothing. in the 21st century, the world wants and insists on living according to the rules, according to the un charter, these rules are called. and here we have the absolute majority of support for ukraine. and this majority is called the anti-putin coalition. and this majority, and we, ukraine, will never agree and will never talk about any recognition of occupation, on earth, in the sky, or in space, never. ukraine, and i'm in

it. is convinced, and we have support in this, will insist on the withdrawal, ousting, if they do not withdraw the russian occupation troops from our territory. bloomberg reports that the advisers, the closest advisers of donald trump, who is going to run for president of the united states of america, discussed the possibility of putting president zelenskyi and president putin at the table of change, in case of trump's victory in the elections, and... here, in this situation, of course, a lot depends on how trump will behave in the future, and what he will articulate, should we be afraid of trump's coming to the presidency, even though he was the president of the united states of america, and i think that he demonstrated that with regard to ukraine, he pursued an adequate policy, and in principle, it is hardly possible

to say that trump will come and just the world it will turn out that he will not help ukraine, will not provide weapons, as a result of which ukraine will be forced to simply sit down at the negotiating table, because without weapons , ukrainians will not be able to fight against russia. let's take concrete examples, i agree with what you say, the first time when mr. trump was president, no one could have imagined then either, he was the first us president to send the entire russian consulate general, starting from san francisco. all russian spies, diplomats, and so on and so forth , and hundreds of them, for him there was a decision, you know, a firm one, he decided , he moved on, at the same time, the president of the united states is in office, and the fact that they have such an election campaign in the united states is an absolute matter for the american people, and the americans will decide who will be their president, and the americans, here serhiy, it is very important, i

wanted to emphasize, because i worked in the usa. i know washington, san francisco, sacramento, and the whole country very well, and i know most of all the americans and ukrainians who live and work there, so the most important thing in the american politics and in american decisions about security, defense and foreign policy, this is the opinion of the citizens of the united states. do us citizens support ukraine? yes, they support, that is why the administration of president joe biden is so active, and the minister is so active. the us department of defense, the state department and so on, because there is absolute support for ukrainians and ukraine among americans, which has never really happened before. and secondly, now you have to understand that, it seems, from the day after tomorrow, the house of representatives, the congressmen will go to different districts. what are districts? it's like in our country ukraine, and the most important thing is that in these districts the position of every congressman, whether republican or...