13% allow such negotiations, 89% do not. this is the end of it, i say goodbye to you until tomorrow, i wish you all the best, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye! nato council ukraine, what was agreed at the meeting of the defense ministers of the alliance member countries and how nato will help ukraine, this is the broadcast of the bbc in the studio. karumerov. meetings in brussels and talks about the need to continue aid to ukraine take place against the background of heavy fighting at the front. and the ukrainian army is already experiencing a shortage of weapons and ammunition. how will nato help? kiev? nato secretary general jens stoltenberg warned that the delay of the american. billion in aid already has

a negative impact on the situation on the ukrainian front. stoltenberg called on the us congress to make a decision on the continuation of support and noted that supporting ukraine is not charity, it is an investment in our own security. the head of nato stated this today in brussels before the start of the meeting of defense ministers of the nato countries, in the framework of which a meeting of the nato council of ukraine took place. head of the ukrainian ministry. defense of rustem umerov joined the meeting via video link. the parties decided to create a center for joint analysis of education and training in poland. the center will allow ukraine to share its experience, as well as allow the armed forces to learn and train with nato partners. but all these meetings take place against the background of heavy battles. for example, the third assault brigade, which is considered one of the best in the ukrainian army. they were redeployed for the defense of avdiivka, the situation there was called critical. the russians

have released these shots of them storming a ruined city. in general, russian troops have been fighting their way into avdiivka for months. however , according to information that the bbc received from ukrainian soldiers, the city could fall at any moment. and precisely because of the lack of weapons and ammunition. the head of the british ministry of defense spoke about the need to continue supporting ukraine today at a meeting of defense ministers of nato countries. grand chateau said: "we need to make sure that ukraine gets everything it needs to win this war." he added that even thinking about defeat is unacceptable according to observers, ukraine's victory will directly depend on the continuation of western support from all nato countries, including the largest donor of military aid, the united states. let's listen to what nato secretary general jens stoltenberg had to say about this. we are already seeing the consequences

of the united states delaying its decision, but i hope that the united states will be able to pass it, and the congress, the house of representatives will approve the continuation of support for ukraine, because if we allow if president putin wins, it will be worse not only for ukrainians, it will be a tragedy for ukrainians, but it will also be dangerous for us, it will make the world more vulnerable, therefore... ukraine is in the interests of our own security. therefore, the importance of continued military support worries not only ukrainian high-ranking officials in kyiv, but also the leaders of other european countries. for example, last week german chancellor olaf scholz visited the united states to persuade american republicans to provide military support to ukraine. and today one of the main goals meetings of defense ministers of the country. brussels

to remind the us republicans about the importance of helping ukraine. professor andrew dorman thinks so. let's listen. three things were achieved at the meeting of nato defense ministers today. the first is the provision of assistance to ukraine, and the assurance of ukraine that it will continue to receive assistance from nato, in particular, assistance from european countries. the second is an appeal to the republicans and the house of representatives of the united states to tell them: "you have to." vote for this aid package because we must continue to support ukraine in their war against the illegal invasion of russia, so we really need to talk to them, and the third is to try to agree on nato's defense plans for russia. formally, trump will not be able to split the us from nato, but he is able to essentially undermine the guarantees that the us provides to the rest of nato members. what he can do: withdraw american forces or ignore obligations under the fifth article. so there are serious concerns about what

a second trump presidency might look like and how it will affect european security and the war in ukraine. and contact us. director mykhailo samus of the independent platform new geopolitics research network. i congratulate you. ukraine is in dire need of artillery shells. nato urges american republicans to approve aid to ukraine. but will nato have an influence on them? well, actually, nato is really just calling. nato hasn't really even given us, and i highly doubt that nato can even give us political support just by applying for membership. ukraine in nato, which could be a very powerful signal at the global level, first of all to russia. and now nato can really only call, and what we have is turbulence in the united states, where republicans and especially trumpists are implementing their own pre-election strategy. in

the european union, i must say that there are positive things, despite the fact that in 2023 our partners failed to fulfill. its obligations regarding the production and delivery of 1 million ammunitions to ukraine, this year these obligations will obviously be fulfilled, since in principle new factories are being built, new personnel are being recruited, and all this process is quite difficult, it is clear, but what regarding nato, in fact, to be honest , i am a little pessimistic, because as the same nato secretary general often said, that the main task of nato is to... escalation and confrontation with russia, and this seems to me to be not quite the right position in modern global environment. yes, stoltenberg said that, in principle, nato will support ukraine, and he said today that nato countries have increased their military budgets, which are record figures for now. however, do you

think european nato countries have enough capabilities to support ukraine, for example, without the help of the usa. as part of ramstein, which took place. now, in fact, everything has been confirmed regarding the support of ukraine, i mean in various directions, that is, several coalitions have been confirmed for air defense, anti-aircraft anti-missile defense, the aviation coalition has confirmed that the preparation for the transfer of the f-16, which we have been waiting for quite a long time, is on schedule, and this is very good news from the point of view of the criticality of the situation at the front, commitments were also confirmed within the framework of khrenshtein. on ammunition, very interesting the initiative regarding the drone coalition, when european partners are already talking about a million drones, ukraine has undertaken to produce a million drones this year and european partners, so in principle i can say yes, the 24th year europe and

ukraine will endure, will endure for the minimum possible level, but the 25th year can be really very difficult for ukraine, for europe, and actually for the united states itself, i believe. that what trump is saying now and trump promises to do is primarily a blow to the leadership of the united states in the world. you mentioned injuries and he had recent statements that he would encourage russia to attack certain nato countries. i want to ask not about statements, in general about possibilities, is russia even capable of openly attacking one of the nato countries, will there be enough forces? i think that under these conditions, of course, it will be difficult for russia. ah... but from the point of view of the implementation of hybrid operations, that is, to try to destabilize nato in conditions where, for example, trump, what was just said in your other reports, will try to really reduce his participation in nato and will show putin readiness for

some agreements, russia can try to really create conditions either in the suval corridor or in the baltic states, or provoke. the situation on the border with poland and belarus in order to start destructive processes in nato, because, for example, not all nato countries can wait for the activation of article five on joint defense in order to counter russia, we know which countries i am talking about now, and therefore putin can hope that nato will begin to falter on its own, and this will lead to the fact that even without attacking nato, russia will be able to destroy it. thank you for your analysis, director of the independent platform nu. mykhailo samus was in touch with us. thank you. nato asks member countries to spend at least 2% of their national income on defense. russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine has motivated some countries to invest more money in defense than

the alliance requires. for example, last 23rd year , poland became the leader in spending. in neighboring ukraine, the country spent almost 4% of its national income on defense. then comes the united states, which is 3.5%. estonia, latvia, great britain has also invested more money in defense than nato is asking for. however, countries such as france. germany, italy and spain spent less than the 2% target. but even though nato is obliged to help and respond together to any threat to a member country of the alliance, trump's words made european politicians nervous. and how much time does europe have to prepare and feel confident in the event of an external attack, at least 10 years. he shared this forecast with bbc correspondent jessica parker, chief. of a larger german defense company (details in her report from berlin). shovels stuck in the ground

symbolize that construction is complete. european leaders pose for the cameras at the opening of a new munitions factory in germany. politicians are trying to appear confident despite fears that a potential trump presidency could undermine transatlantic security guarantees. how do you comment on trump's recent statements? i'm sure it's obvious. that we will continue to cooperate within the framework of nato. alliance is essential to the peace and security of the united states and european countries, so we will abide by it, and we are confident that it is also the will and decision of the american people. do you think europe should independently prepare for a possible war without counting on the support of states? i believe that europe should be ready, regardless of the circumstances, and we are now in a situation where russia is increasingly... more aggressive, and the war that has been going on in europe for two years now shows us that we are obliged to increase

the pace. at the opening of the weapons factory, everyone tries to look calm, but the tension is high tangible, because the usa plays a key role for european security, so how long does europe need to be able to defend itself? i think we need 10 years, that's right 10 years, because our warehouses are empty, if that's the case. if you have an aggressor who is going to fight with nato, it will take 10 years for full preparation. look at these numbers: countries in green met the alliance's defense spending requirements last year, while countries in red did not, including france, italy and germany. julius is a former german activist who participated in the disarmament campaign. however, now, he admits, his beliefs have changed. as did germany itself, a country that rearmed very

reluctantly after the disastrous wars of the 20th century. i remember the last days of world war ii. i was only eight, i was running from the east, i heard the explosions of guns. all this happened because democracy was not protected. this year, germany plans to increase its defense budget, so 9 months before the us elections, europe will have to focus on those things it can influence. how scared were the members of the alliance by the words of the potential candidate of the republicans in the us presidential elections. this is what professor jamie shie, former nato under-secretary general for new security challenges, said on the bbc. of course, these words caused something of an alarm among the members of the alliance, because the last

time trump was president, he did not withdraw from nato, but for many, these were difficult times, especially when it comes to his threat to remove security guarantees from those alliance members who did not spend the minimum 2% of gdp on defense needs. during his presidency, only three nato countries, in addition to the united states itself, complied with this requirement, which would mean that the united states refused. come to the defense of more than two dozen of its allies , which, of course, could not be good news for nato, but even then trump did not fulfill his threats, and even, paradoxically, he strengthened the us contingent and infrastructure in eastern and central europe and regularly sent american aircraft carriers and strategic bombers to participate in the military nato exercises, so we can say, to paraphrase a well-known proverb, it's not the dog that's afraid of the voice... that's all for today, take care.

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the time of a full-scale invasion, but personally, this is the closest place where it flew, literally some 500-600 m from the house where i live, the windows were not shaken, neighboring houses were shaken, in the morning they immediately went to see, you know, the most important thing, what today, after today's rocket

attack, the rocket attack on lviv, it is important to say that there are no dead people, no seriously injured people, whose bodies were cut by broken glass, but they were not hospitalized , the ambulances were waiting, but again , they were just provided such easy first aid, everything else will be restored, but we understand that now there is no safe place in our country, and if you are a civilian, living in a simple civilian house, this does not mean that you are not... no hand will reach out to you russian the aggressor, this is what velikiy lviv says about. it is very sad, in fact, that the very people we saw in these first shots are suffering from this attack, these are pensioners, older people, these are behind us photos from the lviv school, a kindergarten, that is, these are the most vulnerable and sections of the population, and those , which are the most difficult to protect in civilian cities

, in safe, sometimes, as it seems to us, cities, rear cities, but... there is no such 100% safe place, now during the war in ukraine, and we also understand it. congratulations everyone who joined us on the tv channel, all our viewers, we have guests in our studio, we are already introducing them, today we will talk with them about those important topics that you are definitely interested in, because the whole of ukraine lives by them. with us is andriy sharaskin, plaintiff of bohema, cyborg, people's deputy of ukraine. we welcome you. you are borovy. congratulations to mykola golomsha, the first deputy of the voluntary formation. of the territorial community of kyiv patriot, first deputy prosecutor general of ukraine 2003-10 and 14-19 two periods. oksana savchuk, with us, a member of the people's deputy of ukraine, non-factional, represents vo svoboda. good evening. taras batenko, historian, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the parliamentary group for the future. mykola veresen, journalist, public and political figure with us,

good evening. we also congratulate pyotr baikovsky, candidate of political sciences, to the center of the department of aviation. and we will immediately introduce our guest on skype, we will talk with him, well, i think that not only we will have questions, i hope that not only journalists will have questions, and our guests in the studio, so this is oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, good evening and glory to ukraine. mr. oleksiy, let's start with the topic that is really interesting today . the topic of war always interests ukrainians in the first place, but the situation around avdiyivka is very alarming, the news, our guys are holding on there, but it is very difficult, what can you say about this settlement, which ukrainian troops, despite all the efforts of the russian army, heroically defend, i want

to say that it is always difficult at the front, but february 24. from the first day when russia started the active part of the aggression, it is difficult every day at the front, now it is much more difficult considering the situation that has developed in avdiivka, so i would ask everyone now not to make any presumptuous conclusions, but to support our soldiers as much as possible, of our fighters, because now this support is absolutely necessary, for all those who are at the front, who are at the present day. in that hell, in the temporarily occupied territory donetsk region. mr. danilov, what is the current situation with the supply of weapons from ours, primarily international ones. partners, what do we expect, what are the difficulties, if any? the difficulties, uh, there are, there is a lack of means

of defeat, and this is not some kind of secret, but unfortunately, not all countries have kept the word that they have taken in terms of supplies, but we cannot conditionally complain, because this aid, but each country independently determines the amount of this aid, we... should be thankful for what is given, i am more than sure that this situation will change, but each country has its own internal political processes, which , unfortunately, we cannot influence, moreover, it will be completely incorrect, and today the situation is difficult, but nevertheless, what concerns our own production, what concerns the work of our private companies, which have now joined this process as much as possible, we must thank them for this, for this work, and today we are holding the front. when you talk about internal processes in certain countries, are you talking about

the fact that certain political forces in certain countries are convincing and saying that ukraine should not be supported in the future. i have not heard a single word that someone said that ukraine should not be supported, in every country, a democratic country. uh, procedures, democratic procedures, voting, discussions , unfortunately, in some countries they are delayed, and this is happening on our front, and this is a big problem, but i am more than sure that sooner or later a decision will be made , and those processes are political, which take place on the territory of the respective countries, sooner or later they will end with the voting of the relevant institutions in favor of our country. many people quoted today - in particular , the statement of donald trump, one of the favorites in the presidential race of the united states of america, he said during the debate that, in principle, you can help ukraine, but

give these 62 billion us dollars as a loan until the moment when ukraine will be able to return them, or if he can, there was a wording, if he can. as we have this one signal to consider? at the same time, publications appear in the same bloomberg that... well, it seems that trump's advisers are discussing the possibility of zelensky and putin sitting down at the negotiating table, well, the second is already conspiracy theory, but nevertheless, it is in the information field today was , let's not use conspiracy theory , let's remember trump's behavior, i want to remind you that in the 14th year , when the crimean events took place, then the democrats were in power, they generally closed their eyes to the events that were taking place, they were worried and more unconditionally at 14 they didn't do it last year, after trump was elected president of the united states, he was the first to help us, and now they start rehearsing that if

trump comes, there will be some kind of disaster, there will be certainty, this is very, very important to have certainty, you remember, at the beginning of the war , unfortunately, this certainty was not there, then there were a lot of discussions, to give, not to give, what to give, in what amount and so on, so even today... proposals that were heard , they are quite understandable, but, well, but this is not a question for today, this is a question of when trump will be, if he is elected, then we can talk about it, now there is a procedure that passed the senate, the next step is the congress, and depending on how in these decisions will be made at the congress, we will understand the state of affairs on this issue, president zelenskyy is going to france, there... will discuss with macron an agreement on the security of our state, at the same time, the munich conference is approaching, the same conference at which, before the start of

a full-scale invasion the president spoke zelensky, literally how long ago was it, i think it was 3-4 days ago, this conference was held on the weekend, and on thursday russia attacked, what do we expect from, well, first of all , from the talks with macron, and secondly , maybe from of munich. conference , we are waiting for some signals, i want to pay attention, take us back to the 22nd year, in february, when our president gave a speech at the munich conference, he asked for help then, he said then that the world should help taking into account the circumstances, which ended up in our country, unfortunately, on at that time no one listened to us, so this situation was clear, they did not believe in us, i can say, not a single intelligence of the world, not a single one. the analytical center did not give the ability of our country to resist the aggressor of the russian federation. they all believed that russia is an invincible country that

will capture ours in a short period of time. ukraine, this was a well-known thing, and we proved that it is not so, and today i want to say that the very important event that will take place at this conference, they are already from a different point of view observe all these processes. i want to remind all of us that the germans and the french, who were categorically against our help, you remember the 500 helmets from the germans, now the situation has changed radically, now the germans and the french are helping us, but we are very... a lot helped by the great britain, other countries, i am more than sure that we are arguing with those threats that exist today, and those difficult times that are currently in our country, we will definitely come and we will move towards our victory. mr. danilov, what events in the near future or this year, they can bring us closer to the victory you are talking about, because the end of the war, victory

is what ukrainians are really waiting for and when you read what they write about in the comments , they even turn to you and write, how does mr. danilov now see this victory, what is a victory for him, and these are global issues that we constantly raise, but we want, you know, some kind of deeper understanding from you as well , including from a representative of the authorities, which do not happen so often, in particular in our studio, i am in your studio as soon as you invite me, this is firstly, and secondly, i want to say, there is a clear understanding. what is victory is russia's inability to do us the trouble they constantly do. first of all, we will definitely win, i was sure of this from the first day, and to this day i will not leave a single one, let's say, i have no regrets that the victory will be on our boss, but i want to note that if at the beginning of the war the emphasis of some leaders sounded as follows, what do we need

to help... ukraine so that it does not lose, but today we already have the statements of great britain, its leader, who made a statement that ukraine should win this war, these are very, very important things, what about mr. sunak's statement , which he has already done for two months. i want to say that the coalition near our country is gathering, a coalition aimed at victory, it is already starting to act, and i think that in the near future we will... show and see the actions that our partners will take together with us , in order to get this one victory mykola veresen has a question in our studio, thank you, mr. secretary, i have such a question, i think, in continuation of the previous one, in ukrainian society, despite democracy, everyone expresses any opinions that some like, some do not, but in your opinion , do you think it's worth discussing

the bad options. because we are discussing victory and very much so, you know, there is always an exit to the borders, an exit there, we will do this here and there, but it may be a draw, or maybe it is called the fog of war, you know, i don't remember who it is spoke, whether cherchel or clausavis, well, one of such outstanding people, it is worth communicating, it will still be like that, someone will be for, someone will be against, but such a large wave of some discussions, some... not positive, i will express myself very carefully, options, i don't , i don't hear very often, should i talk about it, because some say, then there will be disappointment if there are no great successes, and others say, well , we, us, us, we need optimism, and only optimistic movements will give the opportunity to advance at the front, what do you say, sir secretary, i want, first of all, thank you for the question, mr. mykola, you know that we

have known each other for a long, long time. from the time, when few people can still remember those times, it was still in the last century, when we met in my native city of luhansk, i want to note the following thing: it is always easy to give up, to get rid of your own, it is always possible, but you have to understand, that it is necessary to fight until our borders in 1991, i am categorically against these positions, which are beginning to say that russia must be given something from... let her will take crimea, let it take part of donetsk, luhansk oblasts and so on , if we start surrendering something, keep in mind that a small piece of land will remain and it is not known in which oblast, i am categorically against such positions, yes, it is difficult now it is difficult, these are very difficult times for our country, but we must hold on and in no case not give up, if we give up

we will... lose the whole country putin.