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probably from avdiyivka, the day before we saw fairly tough battles and liquidation, which were reinforced by a third separate assault unit and they worked well, the map has also changed, the deep side also shows changes, in particular, in the south and north of avdiyivka in... already they were running around there in certain areas of the city, so what is happening, are they strengthening avdiivka or, on the contrary , withdrawing ours so that they do not get encircled? let me voice to you only what can be said on the air today, but first i have to communicate with the unit, which is quite has been defending avdiyivka for almost two years, not all of their personnel, but some of them were taken out for...

rotation for a dogo manning, not all their units were taken out, firstly, secondly, it is already a well-known fact that the assault brigade was brought to avdiivka , i.e. there are no secret orders and conspiracy theories that everyone has been ordered to leave avdiivka, i cannot confirm such information to you, this is the first, second, you understand that if there was such information, no assault unit would be sent there, there really is quite a situation critical, but forced to admit that he knows it only from the words of fellow workers. in the direction of the pla in one of the units that were in avdiivka, it is from them that we know that some of their units are being rotated, but not the entire composition, this is what that, this is what i know, what can be reported on the air, mr. yevgeny, if they do not go out and do not leave their positions, do not retreat to those positions that are prepared for them in the body, then the only thing left is to counterattack, hold positions and counterattack, or do they have such an opportunity? we understand

, there is very, very little ammunition , all this is lacking, people have been reinforced, but is it enough, well, how enough, too, not to frame mr. yevhen, but the press officer of the third separate assault unit, oleksandr borodin, says that here where they went to avdiivka now , the ratio is one to seven, yes, it is so, i thank you very much, you are where the emphasis should be, you understand, when it is... a more or less static battle and the front line, then you can talk about some things in more detail, but when it's one of the hot spots, then to comment and discuss on the air today the actions carried out by the command there today, well, it is not very appropriate, we can really play into the enemy's hands. this is the first story, the second, i say, i will emphasize once again, avdiivka is not a place where a static battle is going on, as, for example, we have in the horlivskyi direction, we have 150 to 600-700 m to the enemy. the enemy is constantly they attack us

there with shells, throw them without assault actions, we respond to them and so on, and i also want to note what can also be said about the bek, so you said that there is or is not there, we will definitely... we will not tell the enemy there and where we have setbacks, but i want to tell you specifically for the horlivskyi direction, and arta is working out, it helps us that the guys are in the same units in the audio units, so since february we we have been here for a year and a year, despite all the news, when it was there there were news all over the world that there were no shells, then a lot of them arrived, then what else, about the same activity, because the commanders already know from experience how to allocate and to make reserves, and even... they walk on the blame, that there are no shells, all the same our orta is working, because i say again, experienced commanders know how much to leave, how much can be worked out, no one, when a certain amount of tank arrives there, no one starts frantic activity, they work out everything also, intelligence works very well , they prepare for a long time, they aim for a long time, but in most cases, in most cases

, they hit, not as it happens with the enemy, so i want to tell you the way it is, maybe the guys somewhere in other directions have it differently, but in a year services in this direction, i can tell you that... stable in in conditions of scarcity, the alert works, regardless of what is happening in the information space. but i just wanted to know you in connection with the fact that in fact they threw the main fist at avdiivka, there are mechanized brigades, and the spitsur, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of russia, that is, they actually concentrated there on avdiivka south of you, and who is standing against you now, who? are the russians fighting in your area? again i will report what can be reported. first of all the subdivisions you can see on the dipstate map, they are approx correspond to reality. secondly, i want to tell you that it has already been three weeks, and if i told you about it, teams of more or less

professional lithons have stopped by, because if fpv drones were the ones we were working with before, soon it will be a year there in may and we are working qualitatively , the enemy uses them for a short time and quite rarely. in the last three weeks, the kamika drones with fpv have started to work quite well against us , that is, it feels like some unit drove in, it’s not just that drones were brought to them, some unit that knows how to control them has come in, but i’ll tell you, it’s more than that , you know, the competition is intellectual, because our guys are already inventing all kinds of devices that prevent enemy drones from damaging our vehicles and our soldiers. mr. yevgeny, i would still return to avdiyvka, or at least at the darkest time of day, at night, when it is darker and less russians can see the exit routes from avdiyvka, are civilians still able to leave at that time? it is very difficult for me to inform you of this, because

i say once again, i am 15 kilometers from there, but i will tell you that the civilians, three weeks ago, had every opportunity to leave, evacuation was held constantly. which was emphasized by the head, excuse me, the head of the avdiivska vtsa, and the head of the regional military administration, the evacuation was taking place constantly, the guys, the police, were persuading, directly persuading, not that they were pulling their hands, that is, the opportunity for all those who wanted to leave , she was like that, or is she like today, in relation to what i see on the map of dibstity, in relation to what i hear from the guys, well , i think that there are one or two individuals, if necessary, they can be pulled out, but i i say all those who wanted to leave, they left. in your direction directly, you see a change in at least the qualitative composition of the airmen, so we see that, according to open data, there are also various motor rifle units working there, absolutely professional, these are the

changes that we heard from you, and the changes in general are just wanted to hear, we know that when their powerful airplanes appear, plus others they have percussion equipment, which so far... that we are not here, it is very important here to strengthen rap, radio electronic equipment, you all you said it right, you said everything right, that's why i say, our guys are working and that, let's say, a very unique story, the fact that a large number of devices that are effective today, they are assembled, soldered and invented here, that is, devices come that are common use, but they don’t always help , and already here they are being converted, reworked , i’m talking about... i don’t want to say exactly what technical decisions the guys make so that these fives, for example, don’t hit our machines today, and for the whole time, that is, three you for three weeks, the enemy has been using fpv as actively as possible, i mean, it feels that these are not the motorized rifle brigades, but some small units of the lutyuna have come, during all this time we have had one machine hit

, thanks to everyone, we managed to do without loss of personnel , and literally in a week, the guys already figured out how to shoot down their drones on approach and after... that car, i say again, thank the guys and oh god, if you can say so, not a single car was hit, not a single position was hit , that is, on they all fall during mid-flight. and we have actually already talked about this with many of your brothers in the field of drone development, if we can say so, and they always said that at the moment when funds are still being collected and the search for, for example, fp drones there, they are already obsolete from a moral point of view, until they reach zero, and in this case , we also saw how the russian-fascist occupiers also learned on the go. changed their shoes, but they have it on the industrial, let's say, knees are set, but here is this front-line

the technical arms race, what you just said, how much they are kulibins and creative, that is, evaluate the enemy from the point of view of what you just told us, that you actually finish everything, invent and recycle everything yourself, and they are from there on the other hand, well, look, i am very grateful that you remembered, because it was precisely... we talked with you about this matter, which actually, if we do, we talked with you in the context of the state order, if we make the state order for the drones that are there go, you understand, the whole bureaucratic machine, arrive in two months, a lot of things there become irrelevant, outdated, because every day there is this technical race, and let's go back to the dry facts of what i told you, that is, a month and a half ago , we found their drones fallen somewhere in the field, the number of drones increased a lot, one of their drones hit a... machine and today there are technical solutions that allow bypassing, but the number of them has not decreased, that is, it says that this is an industrial machine

of theirs, probably, which some number of drones worked, but you can't say it's me i’m speaking specifically for our direction, you can’t say that technically they are overtaking us there today, and you understand what the story is, i ’ll go back to the fact that the distance between us and the enemy reaches from 150 to 600 m there, because it’s the brothers about which we remembered today, which are located in avdiivka, they... talked about the very high professionalism of the enemy from the point of view of fpv, that is , if pilots who fly a little better, better with a larger number of drones came to us, then on avdos, surely from the point of view view of the technical race, it's local, you understand, but from his words i can convey that they are certainly achieving certain successes in our direction from the point of view of technological competition, well, our guys are higher by several goals. mr. yevgeny, thank you, we wish you a good journey. and thank you for your service, yevhen ievliv, callsign sheikh, soldier of the zsu, horliv direction,

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project of radio svoboda. who is visiting every day? this is the shipping district, kherson. turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. we return to the conversation, of course, now, whatever we want to ask the director of information consulting of the company defense express serhiy zgurts. we will start, of course, about the widow, the military cannot comment, mr. sergey can analyze, mr. sergey, congratulations, good morning, good morning, well today i am in such a state that i would also prefer not to comment on the situation, but i understand that really everyone now we have to combine those official messages with the messages from the public of our military,

it is really, well, linguistically speaking emotionally not easy, in any case, what we have. now, when we talk about the situation in avdiivka, it is still the most difficult section of the front, in the evening we had a message from general tarnavskyi, the commander of osu, tavriy, where in fact he gave such a general picture, such broad strokes that what he was talking about, according to the general, is the planned strengthening of our troops. is happening and there are positions that are being prepared, there is reinforcement with ammunition, there is the direction of reserves in these directions, and according to the general, this defense operation in avdiivka is ongoing, that is, in fact , all the indicators regarding reinforcement, ammunition,

management, reserves there and defense lines, everything it mentions in general ternavskyi's summary , but we understand that the situation in detail is , of course, much more complicated, because we know that the enemy is now trying, first of all, to complicate the logistics of our troops, we know that now we have a road there from which goes through avdiivka, there is an industrial avenue that crosses hrushevsky street and that to the... east of hrushevsky street, there is just such a certain pocket where a significant number of our soldiers are stationed, the depth of this pocket is kilometers 5, the width of this throat is 3 kilometers, and we understand that from the north and from the south, the enemy is trying to reduce this throat , and we now have two logistical routes, one

diagonally diagonally to the northern district, but... a chemist and a second the road is just from the north horizontally also to this area of ​​high-rise buildings there is the ninth quarter or the chemical district these two roads are not asphalt, they are dirt, but they are now the main ones in order to provide logistics and ensure the withdrawal of our troops , and now all twists to control the enemy, preventing this mouth from shrinking. carried out primarily by the 3rd assault brigade, we saw a number of reports yesterday from officers of that brigade describing the complexity of this situation. mr. serhiy, for you, we simply understand that the general staff should decide with all its fullness. there is no information about the logic itself, that is, we understand the full importance of avdiyivka, as in fact an outpost and the gate to donetsk,

we understand it as a meat grinder, there are incredible things, and this is also how the third assault came , even greater statistics and ratio of losses the enemy, well, it's just terrible for normal armies, when for you, in your opinion , the moment must come that we will have to finally see the solution, eh? exits to withdraw the garrison of zavdiivka or still hold it despite the cutting of logistical things and the narrowing of the estuary, as you said, it’s just purely strategic, what we feel now, well, we are watching the process, when just the entrance of the third assault unit to the edge of difficult conditions, because relatively speaking, the entry and exit of any military unit there to a new area. despite any the professionalism of one or another unit, we know how professionally prepared the third separate assault brigade is, these are always high-level risks, that is, in fact, they

immediately deployed and began to conduct combat operations to ensure that logistics were not complicated and, as i believe, the orderly withdrawal of the unit would ensure our divisions or all parts. which, in particular , are located east of avdiivka, we have also already seen that yesterday the withdrawal of our units from the strongholds of the zenit district took place, this is just south of avdiivka, there are literally several kilometers to avdiyivka, this zenit combat position, it was held, well, it seems that in the 14th year, it is just a fortified base, the former base of the anti-missile regiment, but given the fact that in... there from the north, and from, from experience, and from the royal desire as well, approaches the ways of securing

this fortified area, then these two fortified areas, because in addition to zanid, there is another fortified area called chiburashka nearby, where our military was withdrawn, although it was far from idle situation, because there is separate information that there are losses and not just this was happening... withdrawal, that is, conditionally speaking, the process of withdrawal of individual units is already taking place, when we talk about the further situation, then everything will depend on the dynamics that are currently being formed, unfortunately, by the advantage of the enemy, we are talking about the fact that we have a certain number of brigades there, but the enemy has at least three or three divisions there, in particular there are more than 12 and so that we have time to talk a little more. and we understand that with such a ratio and with the fact that it is necessary to maintain a circular defense directly from the armor some parts of 360°, as they say, in the coming

hours we will see the development of the situation, only then will we understand what decision was made by the general staff, let's maybe talk about a few other important things, well, about others , about others, mr. serhiy, but i'm constantly talking about cerkony i ask, and we understand that these are very, very fast missiles. at the moment it seems that the russians don’t quite know how to launch them, but if they re-equip something there and, for example, launch them from ground systems from the coast guard, it will be very difficult for our air defense and our defenders of the sky, and accordingly there may be more destruction, but we do not have specifics about those zircons, but realistically how many of them can they have and how quickly can they convert something in order to launch them on the territory of ukraine? well, to be brief, there were actually two experimental launches of the cerkonno over kyiv first of all, its wreckage confirms this, we do not

know from which launch pad these actions were carried out, but the nature of the flight of this missile indicates that it does not meet those parameters , which are declared, it is not hypersonic missile, because conventionally speaking... it is declared that this missile must be, must have a speed of nine swings, that is, twice as fast as a dagger, but, the shooting down of this missile and the distance is short enough to use it, says that that it doesn't make sense for the russians to continue using cercone, now i think they will draw conclusions from these first launches and... no country has ensured the stable operation of, let's say,

a hypersonic missile module at long distances and at such stable flight modes, yes what i think that the use of zircon was a one-off and will not affect the further countermeasures against ukraine in the means of attack, mr. serhiy, but there is already confirmation about these extreme missile strikes on the capital, were these north korean ballistic missiles there, they talked about their probability, are they already final confirmation? from the wreckage, was it possible to find out how they are worse or better than the ballistics that mad in rusha used before that? for now, the wreckage is being analyzed, there is indeed one large crater near kyiv, probably it is just a crater from a battleship parts of the north korean kn-23 missile, the weight of the warhead of this missile is 500

kg, and this is really not the first use of these north korean missiles, but in terms of their capabilities, they have the same indicators as , in particular, the russian ballistic iskanders, from the point of view of our air defense system, these missiles are shot down by the complex, but the question here is how massively in the future... that is why north korea will transfer such weapons to the russian federation, because previously the american intelligence said that nine or 10 launchers and a certain number of missiles were transferred there, there are nine recorded launches on the territory of ukraine, so in any case we perceive it as a ballistic missile with capabilities close to iskander and the question of the availability of anti-aircraft missiles capable of shooting down these missiles. we still have a minute and a half.

we will repair ours ourselves, we will repair our own howitzers, although there are still not many shells at the meeting at the moment, but they promise us, i understand that ukrainian logistics and all these repair things are going in the right direction and in the near future, will we not be forced to transport all the equipment that needs to be repaired, patched up and returned to the front? well, theoretically yes, but we understand that now the issue of repairing a significant amount of motley. fleet of foreign-made samples imposes significant challenges for our repair crews, you need to know all this, you need to work out solutions, and for example, in particular, there are m37 howitzers such solutions are found, i also know cases when our military , even in combat conditions, repair not only three-sevens, and m109 howitzers, moreover such decisions are being made that the americans don't even know about yet, but they significantly

strengthen the stands. the quality of these jackhammers to use different ammunition, because sometimes the american ammunition looks too fragile compared to the ammunition that we sometimes use from supplies from other countries, so this process takes place, but we have cases where even fathers of heimers, which can be had to be repaired at our house, we are taking everything to america, probably this is connected with some significant improvements to these machines, when we we're talking about the hammers, who will soon... return with greater combat power to our armed forces. mr. serhiy, thank you for the conversation. serhiy zgurets, the director of the information and consulting company defense express, was with us, and we have good news from berlin. referring to a representative of the german government, rbc writes that today zelensky, who will be in berlin before the actual munich conference, will meet with german chancellor scholz and sign

a security agreement. and we sometimes we approach 9:00, until the time when we remember and honor the memory of all those who died because of the russian occupiers because of their war against ukraine. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.