positions have to exist, it's not just sitting under artillery, it means that instead of positions a-a, just funnels, well, that is, such a number of forces and means, so the question here is more about the ratio, rather, we know that the attack aircraft is a little different, and weapons and equipment than in other units, we are just waiting, we are wildly waiting for f16, at least for that party. the first 26 pieces, because they explained to us that the f-16 is the only option to stop the russian planes with scabbards and shoot them down in the presence of usually correct missiles, air-to-air, they will work, for example, with stormtroopers, that is, with your brigade in sparta, or whether it will be separate, it's just interesting, because you were the first to experience a massive attack by the kabis, that's why i'm asking. let's put it this

way, we actually got used to it in some way, i 'm not saying this in a positive way, the fact is that when we study western materials, western textbooks on military affairs, they write about what is necessary the planes will pass, they will do their work, then the artillery, then the tanks will work, then the attack aircraft will come in, well, they are almost destroyed the positions are advancing, well, i mean how the troops on the... would advance if they had to. in principle, we do not have such a ratio as the russians have with aviation, so , unfortunately, it is in this connotation, we are used to the fact that we do not have such a number of firepower in order not to, well, not meet resistance, that is, on western textbooks, that is , they should almost never encounter supports from the side of the enemy after inflicting fire damage, but we, as you have seen a lot from our videos, constantly... enter into close combat, so, after all

well, everything that concerns the f-16 and, especially everything that concerns the destruction of firing points, the enemy, the destruction of aviation, it would be extremely important for us, because, well, simply , at least in a basic way, we would save more lives of our brothers, we if we had to, maybe we would have fewer such cool videos, but on the other hand. and so the infantry has to shoulder this war with a very large number of consequences of such a ratio. yes, mr. oleksandr confirms, it was possible, as they say, even to see with my own eyes how they read in the textbooks american attack aircraft are also leaving, for example, on iraqi soil, then the planes left, after the efok, both apaches and blackhawks work from the air, and only then the attack aircraft go on the equipment, i saw it.

i would like to wish that we all had such opportunities, and to your comrades, thank you very much for the conversation and thank you for your service, send greetings to all brothers in arms, oleksandr borodin, press officer of the third separate assault brigade, which served part of this audio operation, and it will be learned later in textbooks, that is enough the operation will be legendary, despite how furious the enemy is, but here it was possible to withdraw the garrison and actually with battles and... from such a difficult city on the front line, a short pause, and we will continue to be with espress. tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from unpack tv is just for you. with it you can easily cut trees and bushes. it is so convenient to use it for carpentry. it is the perfect tool for your home or garden. and the price is only from... uah 1,499. there is also a reliable battery

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the loss of avdiyivka, because the city was destroyed and the russians won not so much, the main thing is that the ukrainian fighters left, and they are throwing accusations, it is because of you. because you did not give ammunition, such a situation happened, and we in ukraine, how can we evaluate it? well, we have to remember that in reality, since we are at war with an enemy that outnumbers us, and in fact the dynamics at the front are such that, well, in reality, the line of defense is not static, and the front in various areas moves from different dynamics and in fact in a different direction, and this movement , it can be the opposite, then... then actually , well, it is not necessary, let's say, to overestimate the loss of avdiivka at this particular moment of time, given that we are actually in terms of a- and the same western aid, the supply of the same ammunition and, in principle, military-technical support from our

allies, well, let's say, not in the best situation, and therefore, well, actually, this was also one of the factors that we obviously had to take into account in that , which was adopted precisely... such a decision, and here it must be understood that in the grand scheme of things, well, those are the positions to which our defenders retreated, if they were prepared for this, that is, well, it will actually become obvious quite quickly, and accordingly all the engineering, necessary engineering entrenchment in order to stop the further movement of the russians, because well, we also have to be perfectly aware that the losses of the russians are precisely in this direction and precisely at this point. well, they were, let's say, quite large-scale even for russians themselves, for russians commanders who, in principle, themselves are used to not reckoning with losses of personnel, with losses of equipment and so on, but here even they, if you pay special attention to what

the russian so-called military leaders wrote and continue to write about it, well, actually in order for the russian troops in this direction to recover and be able to at least somehow, let's say, reformat. and continue, try to continue moving forward, they will also need a certain amount of time for this, and how much we will be ready to restrain them further, it will become obvious in fact, in the near future, as far as we were prepared... prepared to withdraw in an organized manner from the positions we occupied, because in fact, well, taking into account the shortage of ammunition, the shortage of western equipment and weapons, and in the end, the most important thing is life and the health of our fighters, in fact, well, if this is a decision, it is at least from this point of view, it looks absolutely rational, another question is how tactically and strategically we are ready for such a decision, were before such a decision and, accordingly, how far we are we will be ready to deter the enemy in those conditions. when, again, we continue to be maximally dependent on the western military-technical resource, and in conditions

where this military-technical resource, unfortunately, so far our western partners cannot provide us in such volumes that we, well, in principle could not particularly care about withdrawing to some previously prepared positions and giving the russians the opportunity to advance, that is , in the opinion voiced by official american officials, about the fact that... one of the strategic reasons for what happened to the nadiyev direction is ultimately that , first of all, the united states of america and the us congress were unable, so to speak, to make a strategic decision to ensure that ukraine continued to receive the appropriate amount of ammunition, weapons, and so on, well in fact, this is one of the key reasons, because the key difference between, for example, what the americans do for us in terms of supplying weapons and what the europeans do is that... the americans have this there is a huge amount of weapons in the warehouses, and the americans can afford to simply

take these weapons from the warehouses and transfer to us already ready weapons, ready ammunition, while the europeans still need to produce the required amount in order to transfer to us, that is why there is such a critical dependence , mr. taras, we have a critical lack of time, but the former general and now the president of the czech republic, peter pavel, found 800,000 shells in warehouses, says: find the money, we will send it. you 155mm 3000 is half a million and 300, another 122nd, this is a good thing, it is from the point of view what could happen in the near future, but it is not in the strategic long term, i don’t know if you currently have good programs and platforms and specialists in psychiatry and alcoholism in the dem initiative fund, but i have to ask you at the last minute exactly about this, dmitry medvidov , i don't know if he read the big one. the agreement in which the guarantor of territorial integrity is the russian federation, putin once signed it there, so he said that

if ukraine achieves its goal, that is , restores territorial integrity and goes to the borders of 1991, then they will not even launch a nuclear the attack on kiev, on berlin, london and washington, did not bite or should it be taken seriously, zhirinovsky is simply gone, now medvedev voices this, well, he has been voicing this for a long time, he wrote there that... do not shake your hand, but for him we obviously need to drink less, or eat more, and in the grand scheme of things, this is a reflection of the russian military and political leadership on the two agreements on security guarantees that we signed with france and germany, because dmitry alkagolevich still has before these were two magical posts just about these two agreements and about the germans and the french, that is, on the one hand, this is another twist. nuclear blackmail, threats of the third world war, there are horsemen of the apocalypse , dmitry alcoholovych likes

to write about them too, but on the other hand, this is another campaign to increase psychological pressure on western leaders due to the fact that the russian leadership is trying to to hint that any, any additional next step to strengthen support for ukraine, political security, military-technical, any, is perceived by the russian leadership as another reason to use. this is a nuclear club, but everyone perfectly understood in two years the price of such threats, nato conducted a whole series of strategic nuclear deterrence exercises in these two years, and in the end they made the russian leadership perfectly understand what it would be like to threaten them in the event that this decision will be made, they are still talking about space, and about the destruction of the satellites of the united states and nato member countries, there, too, by electromagnetic impulse from a nuclear explosion, well, but it all falls into this... one single component, this is another hybrid tool of the kremlin, aimed at increasing such pressure on

our western allies, aimed at stopping aid to ukraine. thank you, mr. taras, taras zhovtenko, expert on international security of the dem initiative fund, dmitri alkolovych is not the only one, there were many other events on the territory of the aggressor's country, we will talk about them later, a little pause, we will continue in a few minutes, stay with espress. oh, we got wet, can you have some tea, mom? dad, what should i do to avoid getting sick? vitamin c, d3, zinc and the main que. cetin to strengthen blood vessels, just take quertin immuno, all in one package, in one capsule, four components together, so simple, one capsule a day, so convenient, quertin immuno, there are discounts on perfectil original 15% in the pharmacies of plantain, bam and savings , usual things become unreal, heavy bags are not for my

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and respect for the liver and gallbladder. every week , maria gurska meets with the head of the foreign affairs committee of the sejm , the representative of the polish government for the restoration of ukraine, pawel koval. as always, we talk about the most important things that happened this week in poland, ukraine, and europe. what is being said about ukraine in the eu, how should we perceive the statements of european politicians and what will our accession to the eu look like? in the project close to politics close to the world with maria gurska. every sunday at 3:30 p.m. with a repeat at 10:00 p.m. in collaboration with sister ayu. we are coming back, and we promised to talk about... what is being done at erefia, yes , there is a lot of things being done there, no, but before we tell a lot, we must tell, it is very popular, well, we perceive it as such a tabloid plus, i am talking about the german yes, but they brought to light the information that adjusts well with what the right-wing underdogs

of the organization in russia itself are talking about, as part of the liquidation of navalny there by... what about the family navalny is refused to return the body for the next month , it is not known what is happening there, they found the same residents of siel from the same area, who say that the events took place even before the popular information that it was as if navalny oleksiy felt sick after a walk, he did not come he died before the end of his life, which was allegedly stated by the doctors, but the story unfolded in the evening, when the big ruckus started in theirs, because basically all the zones look like that in them, so bilt says that erefiya planned to exchange oleksiy navalny from the correctional colony to take on your agent vadim krasikov, who is currently in a german prison, we will now ask about this, including vadim denysenko, a political expert, our colleague in contact with us, mr. vadim,

congratulations, i congratulate you, so is this for a new version of navalny on the spy krasikov? about which bilt writes, and what are the stories about the fact that it was liquidated earlier, they just thought, and it was made public only a day later, well, in principle , i don’t think that anyone was going to exchange it for someone else, to be honest, that is, i think what in fact, it's already gone a whole lot, there's been a whole series of speculations, and i think that such speculations will appear, that is, with all due respect to the build edition, i think that you and i could come up with... and a couple more the same handsome men from other countries, and that he was exchanged not with germany, but with spain, italy or, as it is called there, the usa and germany seem to have participated in those agreements, it’s more, well, to be honest, i don’t really i think that i do not really believe that they were going to exchange navalny for someone now, since you are the author of a book about these

interesting aggressive biological organisms that live north of ukraine. and how to overcome them, i wanted to, if we can now show one of the many videos, it is a very interesting video, the actions seem to be, but not protest actions, these are actions in memory of oleksiy navalny, they have been going on for several days, including not many in the cities of russia, well, flowers are thrown away everywhere, and those who brought flowers are taken away in auto-parks to such stylized various monom... if we can show this video, how one hero of the russian cops, omonivets, and many are very oppositional adjusted, and so look, here is such a group. people are running right under the wheels of the car, we understand that the regime is terrible, this regime is running alone, one police officer with one stick chased away such a group of people who could have

died under the wheels, here our colleagues are questioning the snake, whether it was murder, liquidation navalny, in red, with a red line , after which the russian riot will begin, senseless merciless, if one policeman can, and well , this is not ukraine at all, we would have that policeman already on the maidan quickly... we would put him on place, how do you answer such questions? no, there will definitely not be any riots in the russian federation, that is, we must understand that the maximum political rating of navalny in the last year and a half was approximately 4.5%. the level of trust in navalny was at most approximately 15%. among the russian population, yes, he is the most recognizable opposition politician in the russian federation, yes, he... really was not afraid to go to prison in order to remain a politician, and not be an exile from russia, but at the same time, it is not necessary to overestimate his role in

modern russian history, that is, of course there will be no riots, and in this case i am just inclined to the version that it was murder or leading to the death of a person, it was a deliberate thing that the russian the federation and it went. for one reason, we simply have to understand that russian society is divided into three large parts: the first is 17%, approximately 17-18%, these are hurrah-patriots, well, fight to the last russian, the second large part is approximately 23%, and this figure remains unchanged since on the first day of the war, this is the so-called liberal part, well, or i classify it as the anti-putin part, and with a tendency to grow, well, all the others are a swamp that lives according to the principle, the main principle of russians for the last 400 years, that the main thing is to wait, then how to shake strictly speaking, what is the task of the kremlin at the moment. the task

of the kremlin is to split the eyes of this 23% and split from them 7, 8, 10, better 15 percent of those who will move from the category of anti-government to the category of those who doubt. nadezhdin was invented for this, or rather nadezhdin was. more the reasons are invented, but now his role will be that he should lead the opposition, navalny very clearly interfered here, he should become a kind of main quasi-oppositionist of the russian federation, and he should cut off 10% of this anti-government electorate and transfer them to the rank and file those who doubt why, because all of nadezhdin's rhetoric is a 99% coincidence. with what vladimir putin says. there are only two differences: the first, and it is said very carefully about this, that he considers it, that the third term

putin is not entirely legitimate, that is, the changes to the constitution were not entirely legitimate. the second is that negotiations are necessary, he says to start now, while putin says that the west should invite us. everything else, crimea, donbass, newly acquired territories, that's all. everything that putin says, but now navidin should become a kind of leader, or a quasi-leader of the opposition, instead of navalny, that is why navalny interfered here, and that is why i do not think that he should have been changed somewhere, because even abroad he would everything threatened one thing, mr. nese accordingly, well , there should be no riots there, there won’t be any riots, and i understand that there will be no opposition, but there will be such a controlled, created... and managed, probably, opposition in russia, that is, i i understand that we can on all these thoughts, if i just correct you a little, they

will try to create this controlled opposition, whether it will succeed or not, so far it is difficult to say, that is, it is only plans for now, life always makes its adjustments, i just remember, when we heard the full-scale invasion, a lot of people were talking, including us in fact, they were a little comforted by this, that now we will win here, russia... will fall, the opposition will come, their some adequate elites will create, well, a small one, but such a russia, with which it will be possible to live more or less normally in the neighborhood, you bet these thoughts cross, it's impossible, don't you see such a prospect in the near future? i said from the first moment that this is an unrealistic scenario, it is an illusion in which, unfortunately, many of us, ukrainians, have begun to sink, on average, in the short to medium-term perspective, there are no unfortunately , there are no prospects for... the collapse of the russian federation, so, to be honest, from the first moment i was very skeptical about these things, will russia collapse in a slightly

later perspective? but it will fall apart, but it will definitely not happen in the coming years, and what role in this case could be these small, but in principle units, russians who fight in the armed forces of ukraine, and the freedom of russia and these others, we saw their raids, we saw how it highlighted russian propaganda, their methodology was breaking down, these are their measures in belgorod people's republic and back. in this case , do you see any calculation on this, if there will be several such units, or if they will carry out not only such raids, it somehow accelerates, well, let's say this, centrifugal processes and controllability in russia itself, or are these mosquito bites? no, well, all such things, they will later, all these small

fountains will later converge into one big year. but once again, as of now, if we are talking about the short-term perspective or even the medium-term perspective, the collapse of the russian federation, i honestly do not see it, so it is simply very important that we do not entertain ourselves with illusions and do not have and do not make incorrect diagnoses, because everyone understands that treatment begins with the correct diagnosis, well, we certainly do not entertain ourselves with illusions , and some russians themselves, in particular the opposition that meets somewhere abroad at various conferences. and it seems that they are developing some concept of a restored russia, so they also write laws, a new constitution and everything else, in a word, they master it in a good way the budget, at all those congresses, but somehow it all looks sad, and mr. vadim, what about this option, which we also talked about with you somehow about the loss of controllability because of the fact

that they are different. departments see the further development of their lives differently after putin's reassignment? no , the loss of control as of now, i honestly do not imagine that it will happen, on the contrary , in this case, putin suddenly realized after the prigozhin raid that there is not a single person in his circle in russia who is not afraid of him , that is, putin's fear was much greater than any other fear, and... right from this moment we can talk about the fact that russia began to transition, or rather, transitioned from authoritarianism to totalitarianism, mr. vodym, we literally have one minute, but looking at the way you play with a picture, remembering pilevin, but you don’t have the feeling that putin will be the president of the russian federation for the next 500-600 years, because you can always play doubles with him, and he will be eternally young all the time, like lenin will be, no, i honestly think that...

er, the time of putin's rule is coming to an end, the only problem is that these are a year or two or three, until he dies, we will have to live with him, unfortunately, but the fact that he does not have 20 years ahead of him , i'm sure of it , you remembered beautifully, then i'll ask myself, but half a minute remains, which was a bigger blow, the one that shook russia more and could make someone think a little, the death of prigozhin or now navalny, of course prigozhin, prigozhin . it was, in principle, the hope that something might change in this state, well, plus it is beautiful, no matter how strange it sounds, he still remains the number two politician in the russian federation, that is, his overall level of trust is almost 50%, and even today. well, thank you, mr. vadim, for the answers, thank you for being with us, vadim denysenko, political expert, journalist, in touch with us, because it is now 15.

0:0 is approaching, iryna koval is already with her team has prepared a selection of the most important, freshest information and is ready to share it with us. irina, i congratulate you on your word. thank you oksana, well, literally in a moment about the most important events, wait. 3:00 p.m. in ukraine, for your attention, a news release on espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers. during the four months of the active phase of the avdiyiv defense operation , the defense forces eliminated 47,000 soldiers. also, our soldiers destroyed 1,365 units of enemy equipment.