and they were not only interested in primitives , they also adopted them, and burlyuk is one of the first brave artists in the world who, even in the 1900s, even before 1910, he imitated folk paintings, well , he imitated was inspired by folk cult paintings and even made certain collages , he has several interesting paintings, there are ukrainians, for example, or cossack mamai, these are paintings that can be... or well viewed both horizontally and vertically, let's say, that is, they are again play folk icons, ukrainians, this ukrainian has nothing to do with russian culture, it has nothing to do with it at all, it must be clearly understood, and burlyuk , accordingly, yes, he had a certain period in the territory of modern russia, let's say in those capitals, but i will repeat myself once again, these were centers, there there was a very powerful ukrainian community, it is ridiculous, for example, to claim that ripen has no relation to ukraine, at least from the banal... fact that he

went to the first, he loved shevchenko very much , he knew his work very well. the haidamaks inspired him to consecrate knives, ripen painted the picture: haydamak is sanctified by knives. this is a very little known fact, but it is a fact. and, in fact, it was the same during the time of the futurists. futurists went to ripin, among other things, burlyuk, kruchenykh, who, kruchenykh they have, twisted, in fact, also of ukrainian origin, my god, lighthouse. of ukrainian origin, that is, he has it, and it is obvious that mayakovsky was a well-known advocate of the ukrainian issue, you already know his works where he defended ukraine, this language is grand and simple, you hear, the trumpets played, the time of reckoning has come, it is wonderful, i think , what it emphasizes, it is such an ironic thing that shows liveliness, i.e. mayakovsky was a poet of life, but he, like many ukrainians, was oppressed and destroyed.

the metropolis, where, unfortunately, they scanned without a trace, but we, you and i, just have to be aware of this and not do such stupid things in the future and that our children do not allow this, and two more , two more artists, aivazovsky, about whom we mentioned, the armenian and kuindzhi, the archive of kuindzhi, the museum of which, by the way, was completely barbarically destroyed in mariupol, this is another such the metaphor is great for what... the russians actually do even with the sculpture that they recognize as their own, because they recognize the archipakuinje as their own, and this is where i read the liberal russian media, for them it is especially painful that wazovsky sculpts, kuinzhe is a greek, and how is it possible that this is what is done in the world , ugh, kuinzhe is greek, but he is also russian, this is also a russian artist, but he is greek, beautiful logic, i just adore it, how much, how right it is, to consider kuinji that,

which speaks in favor of what kuinji a ukrainian med? literally everything, literally everything and nothing speaks in favor of the fact that kuinji is a russian striker. i will explain from the beginning, so that you understand the sequence of this logic. first, kuindzhiy was born in mariupol, mariupol, as you know, was largely inhabited by greeks. who are they, where did the greeks come from on the territory of mariupol. suvorov expelled them from crimea, in fact, it was a kind of genocidal act. labor, when the orthodox, all those who were not crimean tatars there and so on, it is obvious that by force, well, who would specially went to live in a new territory, if we have been living in the territory of crimea for centuries, that is, it is already obvious that this is a person who had a memory of how the empire genocidaled him, how his ancestors were genocidal by the empire, and so on, that is, it is obvious that he was an ethnic greek, but again, whether he was, whether he was somehow connected with greece, with the country of greece, he was not with her in any way.' that is

, it can be said that he was a ukrainian with the same rights as ukrainian jews who have lived on the territory of ukraine for centuries. armenians, who, by the way, have been the same for centuries lived on the territory of ukraine, because aivazovsky is also, he did not come to crimea from armenia, he came to crimea from helechyny. well, yes , but for example, if burlyuk always said, emphasized that i am from ukrainian cossacks, my father is from ukrainian, we, my father wrote poems in ukrainian and russian, we are there. my father told me about ukrainian culture, then kuindzhi didn't say that he was ukrainian, he didn't identify himself, right? i believe that talking about the fact that he is ukrainian is precisely with an emphasis on the fact that he is a ukrainian, this may be a slightly incorrect question, i absolutely admit that he is a greek, well, let's say this, a crimean greek, so resettled in mariupol, that is, it is his own, you just have to understand that a sociologist, for example, does not think that all people who belong to... a certain nationality

, a greek, for example, is a person who is completely of greek culture, and what is there in thessaloniki, what is there, relatively speaking, in mariupol, these are the same greeks, nothing like that, it is obvious that that greek who kuinji, he... was in close contact with the ukrainian culture that prevailed in that region, and it is obvious, the main thing he learned, well, in ukraine he basically learned the craft, photo retouching, which in many ways built him, let's say, as an artist, as an excellent draftsman, and what is very important, he always spoke the same way about values, he always emphasized the difference of ukrainians, he did not call... when ukrainians, ukrainians russian, you see, he did not think that they were russian people, no, he wrote, he has a very small number of works that appear the main people, and his works are dedicated to ukrainians, he has a ukrainian woman at sunset, there is a work that is attributed as

a portrait of a ukrainian man in a straw hat and so on, that is, he emphasized that these are ukrainians, not just russians there, as in ... gogol is criticized in such a way that it is a textbook thing that he is there, describing some peasants, he emphasizes that these russian peasants were standing, yes, this is a quote that often happens, because he is ukrainian, and he obviously perceived these peasants as russian, other men, but in kuinja there was a similar story, that is, he chose, preferred the depiction of ukrainian nature, this is the lion's share of his best works, ukrainian people, this is a small number of works, but for some reason it is so... that it is precisely ukrainians, among his students there was a huge number of ukrainians, outstanding artists, kryzhytskyi, the capital , and a great , great, great number of others, that is, he also bequeathed while living in st. petersburg, in moscow there or in others in other cities, living even in the crimea, he still, let’s say, followed

this path, and therefore an obvious thing , and more an important thing, he also... was in, well , that is, he was in the circle of travelers , well, a very influential influential person, and there are many stories about the fact that kuindzhi, as recently as recently, mykola ge, made the upper world of st. petersburg and so on, for many years, he did not show his works to anyone except the closest people there, students and so on, that is, he canceled all this to the public, he was a rich man, he invested money very successfully, and he bought himself a huge plot of land in the crimea, it is beautiful there lived, from time to time he went to teach , of course, because he had to pass on his knowledge, you know, well, there won’t be a person who is really a genius and realizes it, and wants to pass

on his knowledge, to refuse it, because in russia you are offered this to do, and not , for example, in ukraine, where there is no such opportunity, we have literally four minutes left, and i want that at least... we made a certain summary, the way we return lost, stolen artists to culture , yes? this is very clearly visible in malevich, malevich, who was born in kyiv in a polish family, but who recognized himself as a ukrainian , even under torture, this is how he recognized himself, he called himself a ukrainian, a person who wrote ukrainian... our colors, our fields , the holodomor, that means everything this , we remember very well, is buried, he has a colossally tragic story of how he was buried near moscow in the village of ramashkava, he wanted to be

buried in a certain way, we do not have time to tell about it, but the fact that on his grave is now made entrance to the parks. and actually in this is all cynicism, that is, he lies there under a layer of concrete, this is for a person who wanted a telescope on the column, on his grave, and you could see jupiter, and all the people lived under a park, very russian , very but here's my question about malevich , how do you think we 're going to get these guys back, we couldn't even rename boryspil to malevich airport, right? and it would be a colossal thing, so in return, how we all return this name together, well frankly, i believe that if russia had not unleashed this full-scale war, perhaps until now a huge

number of ukrainians who, what were the norms, and what a difference, would not think about these questions of post-colonial studies, which have been in the academic community for decades. we continue, it wasn’t just yesterday that the question was raised that malevich is ours, and it has been really relevant for a long time and everyone understood it perfectly, you just know, it was, well, how are we, how are we going to fight with russia, what do you think, we are not let's call god, well, i would have wanted to do it for a long time, it's just that the authorities have finally matured to the point that what if we if we are at war with someone, then we do not have the right to give them our culture, that's right, well , that is, how can we, what is ours built on. identity, if malevich called himself a ukrainian, how can we somehow not give him credit at the state level, i

believe that this still has to happen, i believe that all those who sabotaged such changes should at least suffer reputational losses, and, of course, sikorsky has much less reason to be a part of ukrainian heritage and culture than malevich, and it is obvious that sikorsky, despite all respect for his technical abilities and everything else, well, he had a specific character. political views, so let 's be honest, if there is a renaming of this airport to malevich airport, everyone only supports it. thanks, it was a conversation about stolen culture and how we will eventually get it back. thank you, bohdan oleg horobchuk, sociologist of culture, was a guest of the own names program. see you in a week. thank you. hello, this is

svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is the shipping district, kherson. turn on live. we we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. one on weekdays. greetings to everyone, this is a football format and we will summarize this week's sports football about how the miner played with marseille, the chances of the answer match, and whether upltb will be exactly what all the viewers expect, i am oleksandr rashchuk and andriy melinovskyi with you, andrii, congratulations, so hello to everyone, actually. what this week will bring us, brought more precisely, is that most likely we will

watch football now in the same pool, and in fact, great pride for the fact that in this new 24th year, the ukrainian club represents ukraine on the euroarena and represents to a great extent worthy of natalia such a powerful opponent, at least nominally, which is marseille, well then let's move on to this match, shakhtar-marseille are playing in hamburg, let's remind, and here that shakhtar always works well. there were enough, well, there were a lot of fans, but after the game , our expectations were such that both marseille played strangely, and shakhtar, not everything was, thank god, and it came true. well, actually, about marseille , we also carefully analyzed the game of genard's team gatu recently, and it was said that one of the worst versions of marseille at the moment, because the team is unbalanced, and therefore for a miner it is a huge plus, but what a miner usually works on... when playing at home, or played at least not in donetsk, but conventionally speaking, in lviv or in kyiv, he carefully watched the pitch, but then in

hamburg there was bad weather, which made football conditions not so bad, the pitch was not like that, at least which we are used to seeing in the home arena of donetsk shakhtar. well, the match itself ended in a 2:2 draw, which leaves more or less equal chances for the teams from this stage to advance to the next round of the europa league. regarding the game, we definitely didn't know either. what to expect from pušić's team, because this is only nominal, again we are talking about the fact that pushić, pushić is still in the process, with the donetsk shakhtar club, which has been structurally developing for a long time, in a similar way, and pučšić, who has not played before in such stages as the head coach, he, we know that i worked only in the lower divisions of the dutch, as the head coach, here he was with a miner, although when he scored against eginalda in the last seconds of the match, we saw how he raised his hands in the air, how he rejoiced, well in... it can definitely

be said about the lawn, so there are some similar impressions of the game there as well , well, in particular in terms of personalities, but it seems to me that sikan could have been a little better grafted, with him he could have been in very promising positions several times. in fact, the miner overall looked pretty balanced despite this being only the first official match of the season, and despite the fact that the opponents at the meeting were not the strongest, we talked about the fact that, on the contrary, the miner had a super... with whom he played as the number one, and with marcel, nevertheless, to a large extent, shakhtar started the match from the defense, because he had to play reliably not to miss, but when he already missed after the break, then shakhtar already played his so... powerful attacking football with some adventure, which was also necessary, considering that shakhtar lost twice in the course of the match. well, as for the clutch, not only sikan, but also those football players who are there tobkov tried to give sudakov to him there, to let him go , everything was also not all right with the boots, all because the state of the lawn did not allow him to play

perfectly, well, plus, again, we do not forget that this is the first official match and somewhere, perhaps , the accuracy also suffered because of this... lack of lawn, and because it is not yet the game tone of the miner. we will remind you once again, i think most of you watched this match, you know that we played 2:2, 64th minute pierika baimayang, immediately 68th minute mykola matvienko equalizes the score, 1:1, then diaye in the 90th minutes makes the score 1:2 in favor of marseille, it seems that everything is not very good, and malyuky ginaldu in the 90th + 4th minute scores this one in the 90th + 2nd scores this saving goal 2:2 and now there is no difference whether it is 0:0 or . 2:2 away goals do not count, so you need to win in the return match, or play at night and then win in extra time or penalties. according to the composition of the team, you say, you had some insider ideas that taras stepanenko will still be able to play, because the majority of experts and journalists bet that taras will not play. look, now we are the numbers we looked, yes, we saw that according to the numbers , after all, marseille vs. xg is a very important indicator,

marseille surpassed shakhtar, so the fact that the draw is 2:2, after all, is a bonus for the miner, who did not lose. and as far as taras stepanenko is concerned, first of all it is necessary, even the head coach did not have insiders with marin pushych, who admitted that he did not know a few hours before the game whether stepanenko would play or not, well, that is, the head coach, if he does not know , then we understand that no insider except taras could know whether he will play or not will play, that is, if it was the desire, will , character of taras, it was decided whether he would play in this match at the start or not, to a large extent other positions were predicted and... we understood that eginaldo was played as the main winger, taking into account as well as the injuries of many performers who claim to be the basis, we understood that this is exactly what the composition would be, the only thing is that in the position of defender we did not know who would be kryskiv, who is also injured, nazaryn, who is of a large measure , nevertheless, mostly a forward , he would look great as a second support, but he is like this clean, the only support, except for taras

stepanenko, unfortunately, to date, the donetsk miner has no alternative to taras, and this is a huge problem, we saw once... when taras tepanenko left the field, we saw that shakhtar, he lost the fight anyway in the center, and there the team generally disintegrated, and there was not the balance that taras tepanenko maintains when he is on the field. you know, they also recorded kevin on the left there in the attack, 15 million was still paid for him, but eginaldu came out and he did not disappoint, because he also scored that goal, which was not counted, a strange decision of the referee, well , it was a useful action he had. by the way, the referee even apologized after the game, these insiders just came directly from germany, that he gave an extra whistle, that is, a whistle that he had no right to give, he gave it, apologized, but it still did not allow the miner to score in that episode , that is, the goal does not exist, which was in this match with the score still 0:0, and well, yes,

to a large extent we understand that eginaldu is the right decision, he also... scored, he had moments, and he also could score again with a header already with the score 2:2 in the last seconds of the game, he, too, could have scored a second goal in this match, eginaldu looked confident enough, well, plus kevin had a micro-injury, so it was clear that before the mountain it was definitely clear , that eginalda will play on the left flank in the midfield. you know, let's listen to taras stepanenko, where he summed up the result a bit like that and also commented on that episode with the referee's strange decision, well, i asked the judge why he whistles, he ska, well he, i saw that he made a mistake, because he said that everyone stopped, and i say, no one stopped, the game continued, there the goalkeeper crashed into

the defender, the ball, ginaldo and there someone was scoring, they were all playing, that is, he just , i think,... whistled earlier because he thought that the goalkeeper had already taken the ball in his hands, the goalkeeper released the ball and the ball turned out to be ours, that is according to all the rules of today, the way var is, he should have been allowed to play until the end, and then watch, due to the fact that we played back, then you can say that in principle they earned a point, because they conceded the second ball very late and in principle they played back already there at the end of the match, so let's say... yes, but if you look at uh the whole game, then they could to earn more, well, taras stepanenko is a wonderful speaker now , a captain, and it seems to me that he... would look great as an expert or maybe some kind of spokesman, well, definitely better than puššić, he studies the situation in the team much more thoroughly, he

knows what happens in the club, he knows everyone young footballers who are still training in the u-19, he is actually for the club, well , he is a legend at the moment, he is still close to dario sarna in terms of the number of matches played, and he is not going to end his career and has extended his contract. and in fact, for the club, he is a real star, he is a recognizable star, and he is identified with ukrainian football, because he was both the captain of the national team and the captain of donetsk miner for a long time, so taras stepanenko and donetsk miner, well it looks so eternal such alloy on trauma trasa stepanenko, the damage he suffered, they did an mri, there is no tear or tear, but it is clear that there is some discomfort and so far... it is not known whether he will play in the return match. well, yes, there was also a relapse , and the fact is that he is just recovering for the most part. thanks to his experience and his character, he came out, played

when he could, and now he is preparing to play a return match in a week, so taras will most likely prepare for the match with marcel in marseille with an individual program, and the most important thing here is that he has recovered, because without him it will be very difficult to understand who will play defender from the first minutes, because it is necessary... from the first minutes marseille will be restrained, although again we do not know what tactics gattusa will choose, but if he more or less something well, you understand somehow in football , you have to go on the attack from the first minutes , taking into account the home stands, taking into account the fact that the team is in good shape, although shakhtar held out, we saw that functionally shakhtar is ready, and again, it's not pushych , it means that the club has been working for a long time physiotherapists who worked for a long time under lucescu are responsible for those programs and precisely for physics, we also have such statistics. in a match where there are single combats, aerial combats, and shakhtar lost these duels, which surely proves that individually, well, the marseille players are still stronger than the shakhtar players, but

they are punchless, well, they are not punchless, the scheme of the game, as they play, they cannot take advantage of this advantage, here we see that, for example, 36%, in marseille 60% of duels won, in aerial duels in general 72 to 22% the advantage of the miner, and also, in terms of dribbling , the miner has only 29. marcel's dribbling success rate is 67, well, we see gaps there three to four times in some indicators, well , in part , we see that marcel took advantage, the only thing that was in at the end , marseille had problems, because marseille still had to score more, the french had much more such scoring chances in this match, and what happened was due to the fact that dmytro riznyk won these duels and created moments near the goal, who despite the fact that he missed two, a beautiful match, to a small extent there were problems in the defense, but the fact that the process is managed differently now, after all, again, we must note, he is now absolutely

essential in the miner, and it has long been forgotten that anatoliy trubin was in such complete order, now dmytro reznyk also closes this position, well, almost perfectly, despite the fact that itrubin is in excellent shape, also plays at a high level , plays in bent. well, yes, marcel had more scoring moments, but such pre-goal ones, in particular there, for example, to mention zubkov, he was probably the most active. he did aggravation, but how much else did he not do, where a slightly different solution is possible, and would it be one-on-one exits or would he bring partners to super striking positions? zubkov was very active in fact, and then again, maybe zubkov's intelligence would have been a little higher, and he definitely would not have played in the miner, he would have played in the same way, probably, as most of our national team leaders now play in the premier league right there, because in fact sometimes there were strange decisions, he made an advantage thanks to the positional precisely... football, he thanks to the speed, thanks to his dribbling, but the continuation seems to be obvious, he did it differently than it requires even a simple

football vision, and thanks to this, in fact, things did not go in the best way in the attack, and again, the fact that two scored, it's very good, but then again, if the attacks were called, well, more or less, let's say that, correctly, not just academically, but precisely correctly and intelligently, then maybe shakhtar... could also claim more, that say about 150 million, that is, sudakov or he did bondarenko prevail so much in the game, which is much cheaper to put a clause? well, again this week, we say again, well, almost every day we read about the news that sudakov is interested, probably all the top clubs of all the top leagues, none, it seems that there is no club left, who, according to the information, are again insiders the so-called , who are not interested in sudakov, but... so far , sudakov played one of the most successful matches with marcel, and i think that 50 million each, it is clear that you can draw any amount now, we understand that ,

because, well, igor surkis estimated at... for example , there shaparenko at 300 million, so now it's just hype, and so every day we can read, listen, but we see the game that sudakov demonstrates, he is a very useful football player for the donetsk miner , but we understand that for this kind of money, well, while george is not pulling, we also need to look into next thursday, where the return match will be held, the velodrome stadium, there is always support there, no matter how the team plays, and this legendary stadium, how to record ... well, yes, the question is who will be appointed now the coaching staff for this miner , the choice of rakitsky is obvious, but we understand that in terms of speed, he is now ahead, enough for marseille's fast attack, well, thanks to experience, maybe he will somehow be able to work in

this match, the only thing that pushych on... does not play with three central players, it might be more interesting here, but maybe he saw such schemes when he was watching football there, but did not record this scheme, so with three central players it would be easier for a slow-moving guy like rakitsky to play as a third central player, but is playing miner are classic two central defenders, so rakitsky will probably play in the central position, well, we will see how to play, well, after all, we are listening to the general director pushych there, they tell us anyway... what will be the result, the most important thing is to play in attacking football, although it somehow even sounds amateurish from the university of such leading football figures, so shakhtar must play pragmatically in this match and must endure and have just their counter football, the best such counter football to demonstrate in this match, the only thing is that if they climb forward, they can run into marseille's fast, powerful attack, maybe not the same in terms of names, there are no such superstars except abomiyanga, but

still very fast. football players are attacking marcelo, so it is necessary to play very pragmatically and rationally in this match. well , you know, our expert, honored coach of ukraine, serhii kovalets used to say that it is better to lose 5:0 once than 1:0 five times. puščić probably does not know this, he made a very strange statement that it is better to lose 5:1 than 1:0, although we remind you that the previous coach was probably fired precisely for the qualifying defeats. let 's listen to what marino pusicic had to say, analyzing such a game, his first in charge of the team against barcelona. i think it's better to lose 1-5 than 0. but the goal difference? does it matter? you lost the game, but i wasn't going to give up because i still didn't know certain things about the composition of the team, about individual players, because there were changes since my last meeting with the miner, so in that game i just had one thought in my head that we can play eight strikers with players who

know how to go to the goal and create something. from the goal line to the goal line in the olympic stadium in barcelona, ​​probably about 40 meters, i went up and asked what strikers we could still bring from the bench, everyone was surprised, they said there were one or two more, but what to do with them, i answered that everyone warmed up, everyone will be involved, that's how you see, the coach comes to the team, he sits down on the bench to lead and does not know which players he has attacking players, it's quite strange, in my opinion. well, the most important thing is that he is at least there the second year studied all the footballers who are at the disposal of marina puszych, and for the footballers to study who marina puszych is, that is why the balance is important here again, so far we understand that marina puszych is close to the process created by donetsk shakhtar, which has already for a long time in the topic, for a long time in the structure, for a long time in the model, so for now marina pushych is being brought up to the level of a donetsk miner, as was the case with previous mentors, because we

understand that after luchensk almost... all mentors were below the level of a donetsk miner , and fonseca, and castro and so on, they went, the same jovichevich was pulled up, but there was, well, there was force majeure, just as he started working with young people, that was the structure of the club, so they went to a meeting there, they started making interesting and high-quality transfers there and leveled the situation in the miner , and then takhen was taken again and so on, i.e. now pushych was also taken to first bring the miner into the equation, and then we will see what marinopushych is capable of... what andriy lunin is capable of, we all knew, and now all of spain knows , all of madrid knows because on tuesday, andriy lunin played for real obasanjo, in the 1/8 finals of the champions league against leipzig, and simply kept a clean sheet, made a bunch of saves and was placed there in the columns of newspapers, well, it seems to me that this is definitely a closed question, we always say that it is closed question, but after the ace brand placed it in the front pages of the newspapers...