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check with consultants about the powerful strong saw - what you need, call! greetings, time of news on the espresso tv channel. he works in the studio. our air forces shot down two russian planes at once, an su-34 fighter-bomber and an su-35 fighter jet were eliminated in the eastern direction. these planes struck the positions of our military with guided air bombs, - noted the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine oleksandr syrskyi. meanwhile, explosions rang out in the area of ​​temporarily occupied makiivka in donetsk region. previously arrived at the oil depot,
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smoke can be seen from different parts of the city, they write in social networks. also, monitoring chats report explosions in russian rostov and taganrog. at night, the russian occupiers attempted an offensive in the zaporozhye direction. the defense forces repulsed the assault, destroyed the equipment and personnel of the enemy. this was reported by the press service of the ground forces. on the video released by the armed forces of ukraine. it is clearly visible how the enemy is fleeing in panic, state the ground forces. the russian occupiers suffered huge losses in the last day, almost 1,300 more occupiers were eliminated our protectors. so, in total, the russian army has 400,3720 soldiers since the beginning of the full-scale invasion. the defense forces of ukraine also turned the plane into a scrap.
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11 tanks, 34 armored combat vehicles, 24 artillery systems, two salvo fire systems and more than three dozen cars and tanks, as well as five units of enemy special equipment. 11 russian drones of the operational-tactical level will never fly into the ukrainian sky again, the general staff reminds, the data is indicative. and so that the losses of the enemy only increased, the spresso tv channel calls to add to the collection of nayfivy drones for a separate platoon of unmanned air systems sapsan of the state special service of transport. these courageous soldiers are actively conducting combat operations in the donetsk direction, attacking and restraining the enemy, thanks to semi-drones, our defenders have already destroyed a lot of russian equipment, fortifications and manpower of the aggressor. so we have a goal to collect uah 1 million for flying weapons. there are already more than uah 55,000 in the accounts. remember, each of your donations is important,
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so get involved, you have all the necessary details now see on your screens, scan and donate. in kharkiv oblast , an employee of the district office of kharkiv oblenergo was killed during the shelling of the kupinsky district. at the time of the attack, he was at home, the enemy damaged the building of the district electrical networks, the substation was cut off. the ministry of energy said that the repair of the lines and the restoration of the substation. will begin when the shelling stops. he was preparing a missile attack on the railway and military hospitals in cherkasy region. the security service detained an agent of russian intelligence. the man tried to identify the railway hub stations that are involved in transporting military equipment to the front, and also looked for the coordinates of warehouses and hospitals. thanks to this information, the russians wanted to cut off the supply routes of the armed forces of ukraine. the 45-year-old
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resident of luhansk region moved to cherkasy region in 2022. at the beginning of this year, he was recruited remotely. the man received $50 to $100 for each piece of information provided. he faces life imprisonment. about 3,000 trucks are standing in queues at the border with poland. currently remains blocked six of the nine waypoints are berries. ustilukh, ughryniv, ravaruska, sheghini and krakivets - said the spokesman of the state border service andriy demchenko. protesters suggest only a few trucks per hour in both directions. the day before, trucks were not allowed to pass through the berry at all. passenger cars and buses are registered in the usual way. polish farmers announced a complete blockade of the border from february 20, but currently ukrainian border guards... do not have such information.
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ukraine and japan signed 56 intergovernmental agreements agreements and memoranda. a conference on economic development and reconstruction is underway in tokyo. according to prime minister denys shmyhal, among the signed documents are more than a dozen agreements with powerful japanese organizations regarding the reconstruction of ukraine, as well as grant agreements regarding the implementation of the recovery program, the provision of various agricultural machinery and equipment to ukraine. in addition, naftogaz agreed on a project in the field of wind energy, and the ukrainian operator of the gas transportation system signed a memorandum regarding: equipment modernization. movie 20 days in mariupol won the bafta film award in the category of the best documentary film. the award was presented to director mstislav chernov, as well as photojournalist yevhen maloletsi and
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producer vasylisa stepanenko. they worked together in surrounded mariupol in 2022. the award ceremony took place in london. this is the first award in the history of ukrainian cinema. the film about mariupol was also nominated for the award as the best film in a foreign language, but jonathan glazer's zone of interest won in this category. tape "20 days in mariupol" tells how the city survived the first weeks of the russian invasion, the shelling and death of civilians, the bombing of the maternity hospital. currently , an air alert has been declared throughout ukraine, there is a threat of ballistic missiles, so we urge you to stay in shelters. with this, i will conclude our the news release and subsequent releases, while the alarm continues, we will also spend in shelter. see you, take care.
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congratulations, friends, the politclub program is on the air on the espresso tv channel, vitaly is with you portnikom, two hours of conversations about the most important trends of this week, and our first interlocutor is roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine. congratulations mr. roman. congratulations, mr. vitaly. well , let's start with avdiivka, because we. we perfectly understand that the retreat from avdiivka is, no matter what they say, but it is an event in the russian-ukrainian war, and let's talk about the consequences of this event. well, here you can divide, you know, the consequences for us first of all, how will things be, how
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will we continue to stabilize the front, as it was, and we understand that this is a big event, including for the last time and the fulfillment of the tasks that the russian leadership sets... including because, just like bakhmut, it was such an important factor for them even before putin's election, to capture avdiivka, and this probably goes back to the time when they captured bakhmut at the cost of great sacrifices to the wagner unit, they needed a victory then , a victory was needed after... after they lost, we won back the kharkiv region, when we won back the kherson region, they needed victories, and here it seems they won a victory at bakhmut, but it turned out this way , we remember that this victory for ourselves took
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prigozhin and pvk wagner, and it turned out that no matter how strong the russian army was, they only had defeats on their accounts. and the only victory that was given to them with a large number of casualties was the victory of wagner, and again, the russian army did not show any victories, so something was important to them to take, they looked for a place, and for several months they found that avdiyivka was in such a semi-surrounded state since the first days of the full-scale invasion, that is why maximum efforts and the best military units were thrown there, and for several months the struggle for this settlement went on, and the last... a lot of times we've seen that with air superiority, with artillery superiority, with manpower, they've still forced us into positions, so for them, i think they're going to spin this the victory is quite serious, just like the victory there of russian weapons politically under putin, well
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, that's what they did it for and for that they put a large number of soldiers there in order to make this theater, which we understand, at what price they got it, what... as far as we are concerned, it is important for us to regroup now, withdraw to prepared positions and take up the defensive, because we understand that everyone is militarily most vulnerable. troops are troops that are just leaving, and we have to do everything possible so that we can hold on life, the positions to which the troops are retreating, and yet one way or another, this is the line of 2013, the line of defense, and so the question arises, if the russians break through this line of defense, what are the furthest, closest capabilities that they have, are they in them after the capture of avdiivka, well , it is a little different, mr. vitaly, i think... you saw on the map that it is not the same as it was in 2014, because in 2014 we introduced
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some reorganizations and the enemy still during the 22- th year had success at the beginning, they are a cool beam from the south and from the north they went around and created such a semi-encirclement, that's why the line wobbled a little and the positions were not the same as even in the same 14th year, because the enemy used quite strong groups and shifted a little and... and what will happen now, it's again well, i guess i will repeat myself, this is the question that now the enemy ’s troops are mostly concentrated in two directions, this is the kupyansky direction, which they can then strike and try to push through it in large groups, because even according to the instructions and reports of our intelligence, they they say that this direction is theirs interesting, because only this direction has such a strategic importance, what can be done there... big ticks or small ticks, and avdiivka now, because
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many troops are already concentrated there, why is it dangerous precisely from the point of view of the concentration of a large number troops, targeted positions, and we do not know how prepared the lines are for defense, so i will repeat once again that the troops are vulnerable when they move away from the occupied positions, it is necessary to organize a new fire system, new fortification systems. system of positions, to completely reorganize intelligence and everything, and the enemy can use this moment, i will say that even according to the reports, the reports of our military, the most vulnerable, the most vulnerable moments in our troops and what they are afraid of, we often say, even rotation is needed , rotation, units must be saved, this is very correct, but the enemy very often uses these moments, because units that enter and were not even... in prepared positions, they are quite vulnerable, because they are not yet just didn't adapt to the terrain, and
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every military knows that, that's the time to strike, especially when they 're gone, answering your question, they can mount now, the task now is to contain, but according to my information, we talked recently including syrskyi and budanov, but the day before yesterday they came to us , serious reserves, reinforcements are going there, i hope that everything will stabilize there and... we will already go to a new line of defense, yes, we lost the avdiivka, but it was very difficult to even hold from the point from a military point of view, these ticks, if we level the line, i hope that less forces will be needed and the defense will be more reliable. but tell me, please, all the same, where the russians can realistically move from here, relatively speaking, west to pokrovsk, north to kramatorsk, which line is more favorable for them for a possible offensive, or is everything not so simple there? i think they will try, but now that we are leaving avdiivka, the troops are leaving, this
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may be a question, well, you know, here, here it is difficult to say, without understanding how now a line of defense will be built, i think the enemy will now try to find the weakest cities in defense, and they can move both towards pokrovsk and ... towards kramatorsk to the north, for example, to try to combine with the same troops that they are trying to push through there from the abyss of time, therefore everything will depend on the situation and they can be against it anyway. and tell me, but we can say that the russians, after capturing avdiivka, introduced certain dangers for the donetsk. well, from the point of view of proximity
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to donetsk, then in principle, yes, now our troops will stand further and we will, let’s say, drag the means of impression even further in order to strike, so you can say, but we have other places there, in that from the side of mariyanka, that we have donetsk over there, well... the weapon is donetsk after all, it can be in the impression zone, because it, if we are talking about 10-15 km there, if ours withdraw, it is a barrel there the artillery will withdraw. further, but there is a missile, missile systems, they 11 will be in the zone impression, somewhere, somewhere, let's say, they secured it, but i don't think that any forces and means that will be there can be completely safe. and tell me, mr. roman, can we consider the conclusion of military experts, in particular from the institute of war studies, correct, who say that
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the russians managed to seize control of avdiyka thanks to temporary superiority in the air. i also saw this information, i am trying to analyze it, i came to the conclusion that indeed, the number of cabs that the russians used on this direction, they have, well, we just shot down their planes on the last day, i understand that someone made the right decision, someone did not pay attention to it yet, but according to what the fighters said, even those who are there, that it was the cabs , they had an advantage in the air as well, they had o... of such uh, decisive factors precisely in the situation that developed there, because the enemy is simply theirs in this direction, this is the only time in almost the entire war, where it was really an advantage was created in the air, where the russians felt quite calm and simply used the maximum amount, i said that and i say that it can be
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dangerous, because the russians really saw that it was effective, and now we see that they ... can continue to use such methods, and we need to think about how we can counter this , while with what we have, we cannot effectively counter it, not with airplanes, because what they throw from those aircraft 134, 135, they outweigh our airplanes and we cannot shoot them down with our airplanes, and those means that they can, well, we have them in limited quantities, so i think that the enemy, seeing this success... will try to continue this tactic , and we must be ready for it now, and also, i think, this may be a new turn in this war, which the partners should also pay attention to in their strategy, but i just wanted to ask, will this be some kind of moment of truth for them, what happened? yes , i think that at some stage
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there was aviation at all, let's say, where even a year ago i talked with the commanders... and i was not at all interested in the role of aviation in the war, i saw, i personally saw what it was like, well i'm sorry, it's ineffective compared to other forces and means, especially when you don't have modern airplanes, then there are rotorcraft, then we're talking about some precise operations there, especially before we had missiles, the same stormsheds or others, let's say , it was doubtful, somewhere i asked the commander , i said, how do you assess the efficiency of aviation, they say, well, somewhere around 5-10%, not having about that... there are very large statistics, but what i saw, i thought the same assessed them, and our partners also saw that the russians could not seize the advantage in the air, we quickly increased air defense systems, and this did not give them the opportunity to fly into our territory to bomb, we are not talking about strategic aviation, which they use to strike, just about tactical aircraft, about fighters, and the reality is that
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the battle for the audiovika has now appeared, right here i am i consider one of the solutions. it was the aviation that played these roles, and it is the partners who now need to understand how to counteract this, because our own personal means are unlikely to be enough for us, because the enemy can stretch our means along the entire line in this way, and we we will not be able to effectively resist and respond in time to all these blows of theirs. did they explain to you, mr. roman, why you did not get to the conference in munich? ugh. no , they did not explain it, i hope they will explain it after a couple of days of our meeting, i will ask directly, then i will pass it on to you, thank you, mr. roman, roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on security and defense and intelligence, colonel the security service of ukraine was in touch with us, our next interlocutor is roman bezsmertny, politician, diplomat, former
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ambassador of ukraine in rublitsa, belarus, congratulations, mr. roman, good evening, well , by the way, do you have an impression of this very munich conference? do you see some kind of security architecture being built, or are discussions more likely? most likely, some showed despair, some inexplicably confident, from my point of view, if we talk about some european architecture, then what is happening is not even the construction of architecture there or some... er design project - it is a search for approaches , and not a way out for any solutions, let alone for the implementation of any positions, obviously. a contradiction is felt, and if you take even the topic of the current conference and the report that was distributed, then
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the figures in it are also very contradictory, and if you look at the national mood, even in the big seven, then a number of problems arise there too, in connection with the fact that these are democratic countries and institutions. very dependent on fluctuations, and it is obvious that especially in this year, the year of the elections to the european parliament, it is unlikely that the europeans will be able to come to any decision, well, if so, then then dialogue with the united states of america, which is entering the election campaign with trump's messages and president biden's position. will be even more difficult, so we can talk about what, god forbid, the wolf will eat our calf. in principle, if you look at the
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security guarantees that ukraine currently receives from western countries, how important are they from the point of view of our future? oh, mr. vitaly, well, if you get acquainted with these three already signed documents, then only again. who is familiar with what the convention is about international treaties, it can be attributed to a bilateral treaty or a bilateral agreement, because these documents are communiques, memoranda, because the text often mentions such words as reminder, deepen, expand, and so on, and numbers, which are called as a result of such conferences, this is only a declaration of what happened, i am not talking about the fact that this document is not submitted for ratification by the parliaments, and
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the ninth article of the constitution clearly states that only those and which are ratified agreements by the parliament are part of the national legislation, not even a part of laws, but legislation, and so these guarantees should be... treated as mechanisms of bilateral cooperation in conditions of war and conditions of russian aggression, that is how i would say , but as for the internal content, it is rather i would attribute everything there to declarative things like the budapest memorandum, the role of which, well, from my point of view is clearly belittled, and... in connection with the fact that it is simply ignored, and some of those who signed who joined him, no more, no less, but from the point from the point of view of international law, all these documents
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are recognized as agreements, but the only thing that worries me is that the law on international treaties of ukraine requires the ratification of a similar category of agreements, or consent to their a... operation in ukraine, but this does not happen, as we can see, in the stack of the documents themselves it is stipulated that they come into effect from the moment of signing, that is what calls into question guarantees as guarantees in general, and another evidence is that in terms of information, the situation is flowing, because part names these documents are contracts, some are called security guarantees, some are called agreements. about the security guarantee, that is, it has not been worked out not at the level of legitimacy, not at the level of legal norms as such. and tell
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me, mr. roman, what you are hearing now from western politicians who fear that russia will attack western countries, in particular nato countries, that it may invade the baltic countries, poland, how realistic are these assumptions? well, as for the baltic countries, they feel you very seriously. tim more that in belarus, if we look carefully, i think that you especially remember this photo, where three heroes of russia are photographed with putin, where prigozhin, utkin and the third, then one of them remained alive, and the group of wagnerites, which remained in belarus, it is still periodically preparing, carrying out sabotage operations on the border with poland, with lithuania, and it is obvious that there is anxiety - one feels about the extent of the danger in the current situation, well, here we have to turn to the interview with carlson putin
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is turned away. pay attention to what is in your excursion to the historical one, which almost repeated for 2/3 the excursion of two years ago before the operation of the offensive against ukraine in february 20, 4 , 1922, he added poland, and having told there about the history around danzeg gdańsk, which from my point of view is an absolutely clear cure... if this operation will take place, where will it be held, well, in a year when there will be elections in 2-thirds of the world, where 2/3 of the world's voters will go to the ballot boxes, where there will be a rather controversial election campaign in the united states america, in the year when it will be olympics in paris, well, these are enough provocative conditions for... the führer
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of moscow not to use them, how will he use them and will it be a threat to european countries? well, we are again going to the thesis that has been sounding since 2014 , you and i will not get into the head of this idiot, and for him, how he will act, only he knows , but the fact that the führer cannot live without war is it is already obvious in which direction he will strike, well that's it... he will make decisions, but europeans should be afraid, obviously, because the thesis that the führer moscow will not bear or fight or attack the nato countries, nato members, this is a completely false thesis, i do not know on what basis it is based, i think on the basis of fear of a nuclear conflict in the kremlin as well, this is the main thesis, but if
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you look. .. around this issue, even the situation at the munich conference showed that the european leaders, the leaders of the european countries, they are blocking the situation around the washington shield, the british shield, the ability of europe to do something independently, i am not talking about that the fifth article of the nato treaty is being mentioned less and less, so the situation here is all the more... that china guarantees that moscow will not use nuclear weapons, hence, it is clear that theses of two years ago, as we remember, from paris, london, the führer was a bit mutilated, but this does not mean that he will not act with conventional weapons, especially since the situation for him is quite, i will emphasize this again, provocative as
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usual. do you think that the weapons of the russians can be compared with the conventional weapons of nato countries, which, by and large, all this are they helping us in the war even with their best arsenals? well, if you take internal documents, let's say, internal french, internal german documents, it is written in black and white in them that the intensity, with the intensity of such a war waged by russia in ukraine, the french army will be enough for seven days. i don't want to quote these documents any further, but if it was clear that the industrial potential of all these countries is in agreement and ready to provide the current needs of the armies of the nato countries, then i would be calm. today the situation shows and this is evident from the statements of the management of key manufacturers and armored vehicles. and ammunition, and
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european countries, and the united states of america, there are considerable problems. ah, i’m not talking about the fact that when they compare the needs of the ukrainian army on the battlefield in the current conditions, they themselves admit that today’s european potential is not enough to cover all these needs, so it is not by chance that the three five... annual programs of growth, building up the defense industrial potential for the production of armored vehicles, i i understand that it is important to take the argument of the accuracy, effectiveness, and liquidity of these weapons, but one must realize that russia will soon be at war for the 11th year, and it
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has tested it in practice. most of their weapons, and you can see

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