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it is literally called accord the cooperation matier the security, which is translated in ukrainian as an agreement on cooperation in the country. because ancient security between france and ukraine , in my opinion, all manipulations should be rejected, because we know that in ukraine, sometimes they like to present such agreements as some kind of security guarantees, there are no guarantees, no security guarantees in these agreements. the agreement was signed for 10 years, where the priority points of cooperation between france and ukraine are specified, of which it is worth noting from a positive point of view personally, these are the words that ukraine will ... join nato, and this will be a significant contribution to security and in and to the defense of europe, to peace and stability, it seems, there it was written verbatim, it also talks about cooperation in the production of weapons between france and ukraine, as well as in helping ukraine

to join the european union and nato. it was also stated there that this year france will allocate 3 billion euros for military aid to ukraine, which... is also a certain increase, according to the figures that were in 2022 and 2023, that is from the positive and also from the interesting, this is cooperation between intelligence and counter-counter-intelligence of france and ukraine, but it is painted like that, you know, not really clearly, so i don't know how to comment on it, but it's positive, and also the fight against the manipulation of information or disinformation, and ... also helping ukraine in the sense of cyber security, to what extent do you think the french president is now really thinking about increasing the role of his country with from the point of view of possible changes in the political life of the united states. well

, look, first of all, france and emmanuel macron, although i personally do not consider the president of the republic to be a strong leader, but he is an ambitious leader, and nothing can be added or discarded here. ambitious is more important than strong, you know, yes, but that ’s the point, and it seems to me that these ambitions, in some sense, encourage france to provide more solid aid to ukraine, to increase it, even if it is possible, not yet leading role, but still the strengthening of its role in aid to ukraine, in military aid to ukraine, but here there is also another situation, which is that, ah, russia allowed itself a lot, let's say, against france, eh,... in the same africa, as we saw, for example, how russia literally squeezed france out of cooperation from former colonies, and i think this was also perceived by paris as some rather anti-french actions of the russian federation, so perhaps this also affects

in a certain sense the seriousness of assistance to ukraine. and by the way, we said that we squeezed out, or we can say that we squeezed out, that the positions of france are really seriously undermined, right? still fighting with russia for its influence in africa, well , look, we can remember, there is mali, burkina faso, maybe chad, niger, a lot of countries where france basically lost, so to speak say, their influence, there were attacks provoked, by the way, by the russians on the french embassies in those countries, they were involved, by the way, these are known facts that the anti-french campaigns that called on france to leave those countries, let's say leave. away from those countries, they were financed or co-financed by the russian federation, where russian embassies were also involved in these actions, these are the same, you know, rallies that we once saw in 2014, where it is about anti-ukrainian rallies in the same

luhansk or donetsk , so as of now yes, we can say that after all, russia outwitted france, but there is also the realm of, say, information warfare, and in 2021 , france published the doctrine of ldi, it is called, if you translate it, probably some kind of information, information war of influence, somehow, probably, this was the most correct translation, and it was the first moment when france actually declared that it was also waging an information war abroad, of course we are talking about africa, and there were certain information operations, both russian and french in those countries, sent by one about...against one and here it is still difficult to say who is winning, but still the fact that, let's say, russia managed to stoke the fire and incite this anti-french, let's say, sentiment in those countries, which

is based on colonialism itself, yes, where france was the metropolis in those colonies, it was still the russians who were able to achieve their, their goals here, so to speak. tell me, denys, we were just talking with aleya ponovaryov about the death of oleksii navalny, about his murder, and in the west this has now a very great resonance, and how did french public opinion react to it, how much did it change? is the attitude towards moscow and russia changing in connection with such events? well , to be honest, i was quite surprised, because there were declarations precisely about the death of navalny, murder or death, i will not say how it happened there, i don’t know, but probably the kremlin is responsible for it, but i was surprised the fact that there were such very powerful statements from immanuel macron towards russia, and i'm sorry, russia has been at war for two years. against a sovereign country and murder, matter, it really surprised me , let's say, one of the politicians, let

's say an opposition politician, causes such powerful reactions, declarations, to me it's a little more than war, yes, yes, in this and that , but you know, unfortunately , france has, let's say, certain, although i wouldn't say rose-colored glasses, because it has long since taken them off, but still those decades and even centuries of russian influence of monetary infusions into france. cultural activities of all kinds, on which tsarist russia, then the soviet union , spent millions, probably even billions, it is still not, it was given in signs, and unfortunately, many, few people, let's say, know that navalny, he was the same, let's say, russian chauvinist, perhaps to a greater or lesser extent than the kremlin itself, but, although he changed his position at the end, we all remember his statements there about the crimean sandwich. in 2014, so it's a bit sad, well, on the other hand, it

leads to the fact that in france the attitude towards russia as such is overestimated, i understand, as a consequence, of course, but on the other hand it cannot play a greater role in the reassessment of this attitude than the war against ukraine or russian aggressive actions in the information space against the french republic, as well as actions in, for example, the same african countries. what's going on? with french policy in the middle east, president macron now met with egyptian president assisi, they talked about joint actions, the french president does not rule out the possibility of recognizing a palestinian state, what is this new turn in french foreign policy? well, it is, as my acquaintance says, it is politics, this is the regatta politics of france, but i won't quote his name, of course, look, very interesting too, it's true, macron, even in a meeting, it seems. two or three days ago he stated with the king of jordan that france, let's say, there is no taboo, it

was literally said that there is no taboo in the sense of talking about the recognition of palestine, but here it is also worth remembering that france as a country, which did not recognize, for example, ukraine recognizes palestine, france does not recognize palestine on the official level as an independent state, and here i would i would like to adjust a little, let's say, divert from politics to internal affairs. politicians, and it is in the context of that to consider these statements, because we know that there are millions of people in france who practice islam, who are natives, who are french, who are natives of north africa and the middle east, and we know that literally in six months, in june, there will be elections to the european parliament, and we know that, for example, the lupin party, gosamlivational, yes, the national assembly, according to the latest data on... 30 - 32% on these european elections, while, say, the pro-macron

renaissance party fell from 20% to 16.5%, so here these statements can also be seen as an increase in the search for support among the muslim population and the population of origin from these countries. well, actually it is about wanting to capture the sympathy of the voters, in the near east, did france want to be a player at all? well, look, there were certain ambitions in lebanon, but it seems to me that france is moving away from these ambitions now, there were also france, france had its contingent, for example, in the same , in the same syria, when the syrian war began, when the russians entered there, but we remember that after all these actions, and then, by the way, there was a president, my god, hollande, yes, president hollande, and he. still had, in my opinion, a tougher position, but then there was barack obama in the united states with his

red lines and france could not play much with its muscles in that region. of course there are certain, let's say, strategic issues that france would like to cover up, but there is also a growing dissatisfaction with israel's actions in for example, in onshore operations in the gas sector. and here, again, there is pressure from the other side , which is happening on the french authorities, after all, with a part of society, which we saw these protests are pro-palestinian, yes there were even protests. about hamas, which is in principle a problem, but this is already, this is already another, another debate, another discussion, so of course, yes, france would like to play a greater role, but as far as france has the power to play these roles now in the middle east, it another question. how much in principle is president macron afraid of political change in the united states? we know that he had , to put it mildly, a conflicting relationship with donald

trump, he sometimes tried to find a common language with him, then refused this common language, well, that is, they... were in such a difficult relationship, i would say , such a complex family, yes, of course, well, you understand, there are certain, let's say, the opinion, probably of the president of the republic, there are also certain such, let's say, french is a cougaun in the sense of the views of society, views in intellectual classes, and we know that trump was fed up with trump, the tower of france, everyone was afraid of his arrival, everyone did not... his statements about the 2% allocation of funds according to nato for defense and so on and so on. of course, let's say this, we want to deal with a less unpredictable president of the united states, because trump, we can talk a lot about him, some like him, some don't, but this is an unpredictable person who is quite difficult to predict, he has various declarations

according to those and those questions, and in my opinion, this is basically his, let's say, trump's strategy, but... on the other hand, of course, there is a problem, there is a fear that, after all, on the one hand, you see, the problem here is that france has ambitions in europe, and would like to have there, when the conversation about the european army, there is about increasing its role, but on the other hand there are also fears of, say, the withdrawal of america from europe, and this is such a story, this is such a situation, where on the one hand we would like a decrease in the weight of america in europe, but on the same parties are afraid of reducing this weight, because they themselves do not have to as of today... let's say to provide, to replace this weight of america, which it plays, according to the latest polls, in favor of increasing military aid to ukraine , 21% of the french are in favor of continuing the supply of weapons at the current levels, 41% are in favor, and this 10% less

in general than the number of supporters of the supply of military aid in comparison with che'. 2023, these are still bad numbers or , on the contrary, monotonous, when such a large level of support remains, well, not as it was, but still not small, to put it mildly, well, look, the fact that the numbers and in principle the support is falling, it is quite logical, it was logical even in 2022, that over the years, the longer this conflict, this russian-ukrainian war, the more, let's say, there will be less opportunity to hold the attention of the population. to this conflict and by itself to maintain the strong support of the population in relation to ukraine, so it is in some sense logical, but the figure is still 40% to be supported at the same level - this is also a pretty good figure, which, taking into account the efforts of, for example, the russian federation, after all, and their certain, let's say

, french allies, which unfortunately also exist in our country, with regard to, let's say, help to ukraine, they were deployed on the territory of france from the very beginning of russian aggression, are certain experts, or people who call themselves experts, who openly advocated for, let's say, the russian federation, for certain narratives promoted by russia, that is, for example, that peace is needed, yes, peace at any price, and of course the price is ukraine pays, so the numbers are still quite positive in my opinion. by the way, you are talking about russian disinformation there. about the promotion of the narrative , recently there was information that in france they found a whole network of propaganda sites in ukraine, anti-ukrainian, which should be engaged in disinformation of the population in france, germany and other european countries, just in time for the second anniversary of the great russian invasion to ukraine, how does the west deal with this in general, can it really oppose it? well look, france

unfortunately, i understood very late and began to treat information issues seriously very late. security and , let's say, information warfare, and only a few years ago, it seems in the 21st year , vision was created, it was created under the auspices of the french equivalent of the ukrainian national security service, it is called zhdsn , and it works to identify let's say companies that manipulate information or carry out disinformation in the french information space, and that was the report, i will now... even say the name, called portal combat, that's how they named this ecosystem of these sites, which russia deployed, this is part of the sites, they work purely for ukraine and. the russian language, the russian-speaking space , but there are also sites like pravda, pravdafr.net, somehow, there are already narratives that work against

france, against, for example, french interests in africa, in the middle east, the question of of palestine itself, by the way, but , let's say, it is impossible to say that this is something very strange and such an unknown phenomenon, because russia is constantly working. this space, it works in the social network twitter, which is now called x, it works very powerfully in telegram channels, for example, in ukraine there are also russian telegram channels, yes, which have now been discovered by france, it was vision that discovered the ecosystem of these, is there something there, yes, in the same way, there is some system there in zaporozhye or there in donetsk, which was also discovered, although not by the french vizhin, so these are standard things. we live in the conditions of this information war, it is not the first year, and at least i am glad that france finally started this is somehow more adequately treated, and with

the so-called russian-speaking population, russians also conduct work in countries such as france, they also focus on them, on these people, not necessarily on citizens of russia, by the way, you can also target citizens of ukraine, look, if we talk about france, the russian-speaking population in france is small, so it doesn't make sense... it's more interesting for the russians, and by the way, they are working on the arabic-speaking population , mainly on the population from north africa, and here under maintain certain moods, to manipulate opinion, to introduce certain narratives, let's say, to promote the fact that certain groups of the population take part in some attacks or in demonstrations where they fight with the police and so on, we have already seen it, for example. as for the russian-speaking population, of course , russia is working, but here we would rather talk about estonia, about ukraine itself , where there is a large part of the population that either

speaks russian or understands russian very well. well, if you see the russian cultural center in paris, yes all these objects of the russian orthodox church, it may seem that russia is actively interested in russians, right? well, here we have to thank former president sarkozy for this, this is such a miracle. which , unfortunately, we have in paris, but as it is, as it is. well, by the way, if we talk about such people as nicolas sarelzi, it can be said that now representatives of the french political elite, who have always tried to maintain especially such close relations with the kremlin, and sarkozy himself, and many other representatives of the french political elites, that now they are still trying to distance themselves, that there is no longer such a french schröder. yes, of course, by the way, this is an interesting fact. what exactly is the war, it is, let's say, people who are really now in the information space, let's say some experts or former politicians who support russia openly, it's actually,

i don't want to express myself, but it's in the section of freaks, all the people who had some sympathies for russia, even those who still have them, who think that maybe there is no need to take ukraine into nato, into the european union, so be it will be a part of russia, they no longer express themselves like that, and a certain change has taken place that it has become uncomilfo to speak out from... openly pro-russian. on the one hand, it masked certain people, because they conduct a more balanced, balanced discourse, but on the other hand, it reduced this pro-russian discourse very much in the french information space. if we talk about the possibilities of france to supply weapons to ukraine, now we have seen, it seems to me, even today information that the french minister of defense of the republic said that ukraine receives kamikazeno drones from france. more recent developments, so it was from sebastien lecornu , he said this in didmanche magazine, as far as it can be considered that france

can really already transfer not only some weapons known there, but some new technologies that are being developed right now by the french wax -industrial complex, well, this is very positive for france, because there is an opportunity to use it in real hostilities and see how much this or that a war product is effective or not, so it is positive. it is positive for ukraine and it is positive for france, well, that is, it can be assumed that all this will continue, but i don’t know, for france it is positive, because it is positive for ukraine to be this training ground for french weapons is also a question, well, it is, it is this is another matter, but at least this is the acquisition of, let's say, even experimental weapons of some kind, and after all, this is taking into account the projectile famine, which, for example, currently exists in ukraine, which is probably partly to blame for because... what happened, for example, in avdiivka, i'm sorry, yes, in avdiivka, in avdiivka, after all, these drones, they can replace in some sense the limited possibility

of production. shells, because you understand that, again, france, if i am not mistaken, produces the possibility of 3-400 shells per month in total, if we are talking, for example, about the same caesar howitzers, yes, which france transferred to ukraine, it seems that the capacities now work for three or four times a month, there is no such scalability, well, there is no scalability this military-industrial complex, and so on... there is a problem that there are good weapons, but there is no way to mass-produce them quickly, and it will take, it will take a long time to create these opportunities. thank you, mr. denis. denis kolesnyk, a political commentator from france was with us on this broadcast, in a few minutes we will be back on the air, stay with us, we will have a big conversation with the leader of the opposition in the israeli knesset, the head of the yozh atit party, and the former prime minister and

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