week not only for crimea, but also for all of ukraine. moreover, even nato noted the success of the defense forces on the black sea. we will remind that on february 14, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine reported that ukrainian magura b5 attack marine drones destroyed the russian large amphibious assault ship caesar kunikov near the coast of occupied crimea. it happened near the katsivelli alubka and also simeis and mis khormu. hear these loud explosions, the ship has sunk, and this is also an extremely important feature of this operation, previously, we could only hit russian ships with maguras, damage them quite critically, this one simply went to the bottom, we hope that together with the crew, since the training of russian sailors is also our enemy in this war, we will definitely talk about the consequences of the destruction big

amphibious assault ship and how many of them have already been destroyed in total on the account of the defense forces, which remains in the context of the combat capability of the black sea fleet, which, by the way, just recently changed its commander. i would just like to remind you that after defense forces hit the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation in sevastopol, the physical existence of such an admiral viktor remained under great question. who was the commander of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, whether he remained nominally or really, we do not know, because there is not much evidence of his life in general, that he is alive recently, so there was information that he was retired the other day , and instead another person named serhii pinchuk will now carry out his powers, christ, you humiliated me so much, it is fully deserved...

you called the so-called black sea fleet of russia a warship with a ship , you did it deliberately, yes i am, yes a ship, yes that is not all, before, look at what events are happening, before the black sea fleet in the soviet union or the union, it was always considered so secondary, well, it is almost the same fleet as the caspian, only a little more, and in such a sea. well, what about the strait and everything, yes, that is, it continues there, during the soviet times, they did not keep a lot of ships there, submarines, so what, but then russia occupied crimea, made a bet on the fleet there, bases, everything else, and now this fleet just before our eyes and before the eyes, by the way, of the whole world, the very surprised, very impressed eyes of the whole world, is turning into underwater flotilla.

of the so-called fleet, it will turn into a submarine, and it will happen soon, and this is not optimism, there is some kind of romanticism, not rose-colored glasses, my glasses are normal, ordinary, here, it is absolutely persistent and creative, i would not dare to say so, the work of our armed forces, both naval and air. well, it's just fantastic, in fact, this is fyodor kunikov, caesar, caesar, and this is me mixed up, you know, with fyodor konyukhov, this certain traveler katsapsky, i apologize, for me they are all basically the same face, a strange name , a strange fate, well , that is, fate is not strange, the strange thing is that he sailed this ship for so long, but not what ship, and why. public information that i,

in particular, managed to find, as well as colleagues, this ship participated in operations in koso in the year 99, somehow involved, then the provision of syrian troops in 2015, well the syrian-russian war, we understand, in 2015, as well as the russian-georgian war of 2008, there is also a mark, that is, it is quite an award that he deserves, this. this caesar, caesar, forgive me, caesar, i mean caesar, i never thought that there was any kunica, especially in an iron like, rusty form, but now, well, it's absolutely beautiful. a loss from which it will be difficult for the russians to recover, at least that is what military analysts believe, in particular captain of the first rank of the reserve of the navy of ukraine andriy ryzhenko. ivan stupak, a military man, is in touch with us now expert and employee of the service. security

of ukraine from 2004 to 2015. mr. ivan, we welcome you to our project together beraber we talk about crimea and everything related to it. glory to ukraine. thank you for the invitation, glory. salam aleikum. salam aleyka. congratulations , i can’t repeat what you said, i’m sorry , we will teach you, we will teach you, that’s what we exist for, actually, ivan, well, a short remark, as if from a military expert, in particular, this loss is a defeat and not just damage, drowning precisely by five magura v5 drones, by the way, just a few days before, it was reported that these drones had been improved somewhat, and it was they that would bring... the forces, or rather, the russian military, in general, a lot of trouble in the black sea, well, no matter how they looked, they were not mistaken, in particular , our developers, the ship went to the bottom, it happened in the area of ​​the southern coast of crimea,

that is, well, let's put it this way, it doesn't often happen in such a resort environment, rather it always concerns the western, northwestern part. the black sea, here you just know, well, let's go to beautiful mountains look, well, for the future, this was done for the future so that the divers would have the ability, well, to look at these wrecks, then take a look, maybe minkul worked, let’s go right here, i don’t know what’s wrong with the whitefish, well, of course, this is a joke with you, of course , look, well, what i can say, what i know from this situation, come on, no insiders, i don't know, everything in general, we are only from open sources, so that nothing... go , we are talking to you, it is important that your viewers understand that this is what you are showing right now, and from me, this is a tactic, a reincarnation of tactics from the second world war, in english it is called wolf pack, that is, a pack of wolves, and it was used by german

submariners during the second world war, when they attacked convoys going from the united states to great britain, when five or six submarines were tracked in the atlantic. who got lost or fought back from his pack and was attacked, well, sent to the bottom. now the same tactics, when from four to five unmanned surface vehicles, when they hunt one solitary ship to boys to boys in panties, what sailors, i am sure, this happened with the support of our western friends, who gave us intelligence from their... drones that are in neutral waters, or rather, they fly over neutral waters, or nato surveillance planes, the avax , reported that there is a ship here that fought off a vizgrai, it can be attacked, and gur together with the navy organized such a group, attacked, what i

saw, the first defeat was unacceptable for the russians, imperceptible, unexpected , only only, it seems, the second or third attack. they see, there is a flash, well, on the water, splashes, they began to attack, shoot small arms, maybe even one of the drones was destroyed in the immediate vicinity of the ship, but nevertheless the ship went to the bottom and just like that, you know, highlight or i don't know the drunken cherry on this cake, one of the drones, this is just such cynicism, but beautiful from the guru and from the navy, one of the drones, this one, he stayed to film how to finish it. that we we could talk to you about this moment and not to give the opportunity to russian propaganda to say that you are all lying there, mr. ivan, mr. ivan , i apologize, but do you know if this drone operator has returned, maybe he still

has an interview, you can take some there, i don't know , show it there to give him some kind of journalistic award, well, i would give it, in fact, well, such a bespatron can be himself. cartridge drone. a drone cartridge can be. but really, really, the operation was cool, and i can see and feel that it's not something that can happen every week. it is necessary here to set up this ambush, to guard this ship, which will leave for a long time somewhere far away in the zone of damage of our drones. and in fact, the russians have not so many options left for the black sea fleet. that's how many options they have left if they've been using large amphibious ships lately. mainly for transporting something interesting, and we also know about this that destroyers were destroyed along with the ship, excuse the words, which should have arrived somewhere in sevastopol, but the bdk in order for something to transfer, instead of the amphibious

landing, i’m sorry, to land, to patrol the black sea and transfer some cargo, well, that’s the purpose, look, in fact it was made for what, to transfer there... about 300 people, a dozen pieces of equipment, and during this war, the amphibious ships, they were supposed to take part in the amphibious assault in odesa, but they have these plans, by the way, they still have them. they did not cancel them, so they adapt them, change them, according to the current situation, but with each sunken landing craft, the probability of a naval landing in odesa is approaching zero, well within the limits of statistical error. now it is well known about five landing ships, large landing ships, which were sent to this starfish patrick, who lives there, who lives on the bottom of the sea, the whole story is there, they are there now, in general, the russians had. i'm not mistaken, 13 such ships, well, almost half of them have been destroyed, it's important to note

what options remain in the black sea fleet of the russian federation, you just think about it, yes, we talked with you several times, but i have to say it again, so maybe it will sound insulting, but compared to the russian fleet, the ukrainian fleet, well, it ’s almost like homeless people, well, we don’t have anything, well, in order to oppose the russian fleet , we also need large ships, submarines boats, a lot of missiles, we don't have that, we lost it. during the annexation of crimea, we lost during a certain scale, and no one at all could imagine that this is a small, i wanted to say obscenely, a small device, by and large it is a hydrocycle, a hydrocycle in odessa in the summer they ride in turkey, it can sink a large ship worth 350 million us dollars, well, if you measure it there now, and so on to the options, what remains, the russian federation can of course act in the format of libya... i will go to zaks or lead me to the prosecutor's office , well, there may be such an option, what to do, to take all

the ships out of the black sea, through the bosphorus, the mediterranean sea and into the baltic, the baltic sea, hide them somewhere, or all of them, or some of the most interesting assets there, but it looks like very humiliating for russia, and everyone will scoff, well, it's not such an option, the second varik is such an option, i'm sorry, an option, it's for health, or for the russian language and not any other, because we'll get a little bit from the national council. leave, or rather, hide these ships, well, as many as possible in the ports of novorossiysk, abkhazia, where , by the way, they had plans to build something there, but i do n’t know how many there are, whether they can implement them or not, and not to go there unnecessarily , but also such an option, well, not very attractive, because the fleet is an exile, hiding, somehow not very complicated, and the third option is a... to surround each ship with, i don’t know, escort ships, some small boats that can even

be ferried over land, i don’t know, from the caspian, from the baltic , from the northern fleet, so that they were some kind of bodyguards, and in the case of, for example , a ukrainian attack, they set up their sides, and here, according to the classics, he himself dies, he helps his comrades to save large ships, well, i think, this is one of such options , it can be, in spite of everything that they are now the russians are actively testing. first of all, there are various technical features of patrolling the sea to see ukrainian drones, raising helicopters into the air to shoot down approaching drones, and even such exotic things as fpv drones, which must fly from the ship and attack attacking ukrainian unmanned surface ships devices , that is, to destroy in this way, mr. ivan, well, in principle, well, we pay a lot of attention to... there maritime affairs, and on land affairs in

the crimea, what can you say, what is your current review of the concentration of troops, the review of their possible intentions there in the south, in our southern direction, well, once again, this is a base, well, everything is clear, there is no secret, this is a base, a logistics hub, everything that could be militarized in crimea was militarized, unfortunately, geography works . for the russians, because the peninsula is limited, you can enter through only two points, everything is controlled , everything is checked, for our sabotage squads, well, the situation is limited, for well, very limited for, well, sabotage okay squads, plus people who, well, i understand , that they are not there are also many left in crimea who still hope that crimea will one day be ukrainian, well... in the near future, the options for action are also very limited for them there, because the punitive machine works very

efficiently, it should be noted, the technical capabilities of the russians in counterintelligence, the police , they are serious, they check the traffic in the city for some coordinates that come from crimea, or some photos, or some other data, and in this way they can calculate people who help in the country, and a plus, of course, is the recruitment of people for them to watch there were reports from all sides if... someone there said something imprudent that he was waiting for ukraine, and that's all, within a few days the fsb officers would come to him there, then. mr. ivan, another question about crimea, there was information, well, at least i read it, that... there are somewhere in crimea a thousand graves of those soldiers there or i don't know wagnerites, well , in short, russian terrorists who were killed in the war against ukraine , and somehow this figure seemed very strange to me, very small, well , for example, i think there are thousands, thousands,

tens of thousands already on that number in the territory ordlo, yes and... well, hundreds of invaders are destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine every day, there are thousands of burials in crimea. what can you say about this, whether they really do not carry out such mobilization-encouraging work there, or they simply do not trust the crimeans, or are there any other reasons, or is this information false and in fact everything is different there, understand the question, see how first, recruit, mobilize. everyone, well, they recruit for money, those who want it, those who don’t want it, they begin to move them in a forced order, they send them to this war, about a thousand, the number is really underestimated, i have the following explanation: first of all, crimea is a pearl for the kremlin dictator, he probably doesn't want to spoil the general appearance too much, if everything is in these, i don't know, burials,

it won't look very good it’s nice, and somehow not so camilfo, the crimea should remain with... putin, what is this something so bright, it’s summer, i don’t know, there’s ice cream, people are resting, you have a good time, but in this spirit, and as an option, everyone all those who died will be buried either somewhere on the mainland of the reef, somewhere very far away, in some mass graves, so as not to be identified, now look at the strategy of the russians, it started working, i remember in the 22nd year , sometime in the summer, what did they start doing? and it was i who saw these interception documents from our special services, instructions to all regions to local administrations from moscow, and there was such a demand: to stop forming such avenues in cemeteries, well, in quotation marks, alleys of burials of those who died on this war, so that it would not be there, i don’t

know, there is a kilometer-long alley like that, everything is in russian flags, there is a husband, father, son, brother, he died there, it shouldn't be... and by the way, they, you remember, they had such a competition for the best arrangement of the grave, we all joked that they were doing it, but in fact it an action was planned, what they did, under this auspices , volunteers or authorized people went there, let's say, and they removed from these burials everything that can be removed so that it does not resemble a military burial, that is, there are some medals, i don't know, i don't know if there were any parties there. there is a beret there, they were cleaning it, that kind of thing ennobled, and even those people who tried to put these obelisks on their relatives and friends, and what about the military theme, they were warned at the beginning of this action that this cannot be done, we will remove this obelisk from you, do something, well and warned, of course, the companies that manufactured these gravestones, monuments, so that they

would have less vivid references to the military past of the deceased. plus stretch all over the cemetery, there are three graves, there are two graves, there are five graves, so that there are not these alleys again, that is, it is possible that the explanation of what you said, mr. ivan, was, well, in my opinion, an interesting report about the fact that moscow curators were sent to the fsbshniks in crimea, and apparently the fsb has paid off so strongly there since the 14th year. and in principle , well, why is this, yes, that is, all faithful people put many ukrainians, crimeans in prisons, what can this be related to, in your opinion, as a former employee of the sbu? couldn't resist, when they come from moscow to the regions, they don't just come there to drink tea and coffee, they come there for serious

showdowns, this means that in moscow they are dissatisfied with what is happening in crimea, they are dissatisfied with the work of the local branch , it is clear that there are probably a few ukrainians there, well, traitors, maybe there are dozens, everyone who could be sent to murmansk , to arkhangelsk, as far as possible, because traitors are not trusted, or they were planted, there were such cases, they were framed, they started importing drugs, and they were detained, and then it turned out that an fsb officer, well, a courier was detained, he with an fsb certificate, and it will turn out that he was still a ukrainian sbu officer who... ran away, or rather, stayed on the territory of russia and defected there. i think that these are the sinking of ships and the hitting of the black sea fleet headquarters, all of them. showed in moscow that there is a large, well, okay, not a large one, but there are some people in the territory of crimea who give the coordinates of traitors,

collaborators, these varangians there, military movements, and ukraine has the opportunity to strike there, that is, the local fsb cannot deal with this threat, so them they sent for reinforcement, some kind of inspection, which now has to check how it works. local fsb. if deficiencies are discovered, personnel decisions will be made and some new head of the fsb will arrive. and finally, mr. ivan, we see what dramatic events are currently developing in general in the south, in the southeast of our country. this concerns zahalomavry from avdiivka. a rather ticklish situation may unfold in the soledar area. there are reports that the russians have concentrated on the tokmat direction and will try. to take the height of the robot, about the krynky we are not saying anything yet, because it is a very, very, very delicate situation, how all this affects and will affect the situation in

crimea in the future, because we understand that without liberation and without processes in these territories of mytrykova ukraine, it will be premature to talk about crimea , you are correct in saying that until there is an advance of our troops in the direction of skadovsko, the armenians will change there. i don’t have to talk about these in the crimea, the only thing is that these are options for point damage, i don’t know, there is some kind of train, and with it some kind of rockets, or with fuel, whoops, some kind of cluster flew there russian military, the arrival of no commanders, for example, at the headquarters of the teplin airborne forces commander, he also constantly goes to crimea there for some meetings, it is possible to arrive there , that is, the black sea fleet can be decided point by point, you can continue, sorry, rape in this way, the genocide of the black sea of the fleet in this way, especially their headquarters, there the new commander serhii pinchuk was drawn, a native of sevastopol, by the way, but

he has no special ties with crimea and sevastopol and with ukraine, he is there in the russian federation built a military career. this person is now allegedly one of sokolov's replacements. the russians themselves call the person who replaces the predecessor in this position a suicide bomber, because the previous ones were unable to cope. before him there was also a person who did not manage, but literally this person, who was just removed from his post, there was a general question whether he was alive or not, he asked, by the way, i don't remember his last name , it doesn't matter in principle, no one has marked it, so the eagle falcon has calves, no one knows if he was alive after the last hitting the base and headquarters of the black sea fleet in the summer, no one knows what condition he was in, whether he was alive or half-alive, and as they joke on the network. for the rest, released in connection with the disbandment of the black sea fleet of the russian federation. good. thank you for your jokes, mr. ivan, and for the information. yes, and let's remind you that

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continue the program razom beraber, a joint project of the tv channel and the otr tv channel, in which we talk about everything related to our ukrainian crimea. and the russian federation actually continues to consider itself the rightful owner of our peninsula. moreover, i believe that in the distant year, already now, as it seems, in 2015, we should not have done anything in relation to crimea, but ayder muzhdabayev remembers the events of those days very well. i i will only say that russia plans to file a lawsuit against ukraine. until the end of february and this lawsuit concerns, excuse me, my lord, the power blockades of crimea, this was stated by the speaker of the crimean parliament, volodymyr konstantinov, the

so-called speaker, of course. and here, ayder, i give you my word, well, i remember that the blockade of crimea began on the 20th, i think it was september, so on the 15th , before that, trade flourished there, about 700 wagons, imagine crossing the demarcation line at chongar for a day , there were three points working then, and the crimeans, on calls. forest and led by lenur slyamomov, the general director of the otr tv channel, and now the commander of the 48th oshb, they announced a blockade, there was a press conference, then the blockade physically began, many people, including domestic oligarchs, did not believe, offered money, did not flee there on various methods there, how they and we will fight the blockade, but

in the end nothing succeeded and... then there was an explosion of the power supply line somewhere near chaplinka, it was quite far from the headquarters of the blockade, but when it became known about it, we left there lenuruslyamov and public activists, and activists there also held defense against, as it will not sound strange now, from her... the ukrainian special forces of the ministry of internal affairs nocheli, and this is not surprising now, but cheli with ilya kyiva, who has already received his award for all his services in quotation marks to ukraine, but not only i have not forgotten this story, and you, probably, and the russians have not forgotten, they have already, it seems, it is necessary to ask lenur, the matter

is over with him, the matter is over. finished, and there is also a verdict, i don't remember, there are many years, more than 10 for sure, precisely because of the blockade that took place entirely on the territory of ukraine, but russia does not care about it, this is actually, i think that this is trolling of such world justice, they are just delaying the time, they are paying attention, well, they are creating fake fake cases, to somehow defeat the ukrainian subpoena in ... in courts, etc. in international organizations, right? but why is this exactly so, why did they mention it now, and how did that blockade affect ukraine and the subsequent course of events? we will ask directly to the commander of the 48th, 48th separate shshmrov battalion named after naman chilyshkhan, the only large crimean unit in the armed forces of ukraine, to lenur

islyamov himself. constantly and precisely at this time i was at this time when the assault under the command of kiva was taking place, i still cannot name kiva, i want to name kiva. kyiv, i apologize , so why now, first of all, what sentence did russia pass on you for this, i just forgot, and he is in absentia, it is clear, yes, it is clear that he is in absentia, and why did they now mention these events in the middle of a big war, when seven years passed there, more than seven or eight years, what happened to them, well,

first of all, it must be said that russia, unfortunately, ukraine and the whole world have only just begun to understand it. russia has an echeloned approach to everything. that's how it is in my language, they don't hit targets there, they hit squares. it's the same story here. and here is the previous court, which was the un court, where ukraine , in principle, did not appear in a better world. that we had, we did not get the result we expected. here the same story can be, unless you take it very seriously. as for my court, at first they gave 19 years, this is because of the blockade, then 18 years, they removed some years, they changed something there, gave 18 years, and confiscated part of the property, which...