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the collaborators program. fake ministers, how a journalist headed the propaganda department in the kherson region. we are again fighting for the right to be russians. but how the pseudo-minister of labor deported ukrainian children to russia. we will continue our work. on tuesday , february 20, at 5:45 p.m., watch the collaborators program with olena kononenko on the espresso tv channel. verdict with serhiy rudenko from now on in the new two-hour format. even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests - foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, as well as feedback, you can express your opinion on a bad day by phone survey, turn on and turn on, verdict with serhiy rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 at espresso. 10 years ago, during

the revolution of dignity, mass shootings of protesters took place in the center of kyiv. 10 years ago, on february 20, 2014, the most people died protest participants - 48. the russian-ukrainian war began 10 years ago, and this was actually its first battle. 10 years ago , we entered the fight for freedom, for the future, for... our existence, the struggle continues, until victory. well, gentlemen , we are coming back, i will also remind you that we are collecting funds for the 141st brigade, we have already collected more than 740 thousand, and this is a very cool figure, 740,218 uah, that's it, 218 uah, i think that already a little more, because it's already been several minutes since i...

announced it, you can see these details, you can to send, let me remind you that we are sending to the zaporozhye region in the direction of orihiv, where the russians really want to try to push us out of work, but the 141st brigade stands in their way, but they need starlinks, they need walkie-talkies, batteries, binoculars, rangefinders, scopes , in order not to be seen from the dugouts, but to look safely, dig at night. not to show them either, but to show on the radar whether drones are flying somewhere, all this is very, very useful equipment that gives a technological advantage, a technological advantage means that the fighters are alive and the russians are dead, we are actually doing all this for this, so to speak, every hryvnia will be spent on exactly what it is needed for, namely to kill moskal. gentlemen, we already have kateryna budko, the head of... do

avtomaidan, the head of the public council at the nazk, i'm kateryna, welcome to our airwaves. 10 years flew by very quickly, but facebook, in particular, reminded me of today's events, and that's how i remember this day, there is something to remember, honestly, panikaterina, how you remembered this day, february 20. 2014, eh, this is a difficult question, so that it is asked, and it is difficult for me to answer it every time, because in fact all these days from the 18th to perhaps even the 21st are for me like some kind of one day, because ah in some division, which was the 18th, then the 19th, then the 20th came, he is gone, because in fact all these days and nights they... happened almost

without sleep and in such a movement that it is difficult to separate, i i i overslept, i actually overslept on the 19th number, all day, i just... slept, i mean i hadn't slept for a couple of days by then, and i just slept, and then i went to the maidan in the morning of the 20th, uh, arrived , you know, like the cream of the crop, well, and in fact, in addition to these, the events that took place on the maidan, then on the 20th, blockades began, which we organized reports of the marchers, because already a lot... of officials and deputies, they understood that the maidan would win, and accordingly, that everything smells so-so for them, let's say, and that's why they tried to leave and leave the country, fly out, that's why there were also blockades, accordingly people changed and there were

roadblocks located on zhuliany, and there are already people there every morning at 5 o'clock in the morning statements, they asked to change them, then... because some of them stood all night and were on duty in the same way both on the square and near the reports, so in fact it all came together in one very, very long day. so, in retrospect, do you agree with the idea that february 20, 14 is essentially the beginning of this war that we're in now? actually no. i do not agree with this opinion, because this war began before february 20, because in fact, just then, russia waged a more hybrid war, they also had yanukovych in

power, and they, respectively, through their own, through azarov, through yanukovych, through their people in power tried to seize influence over our country after. after february 20, after yanukovych and his henchmen fled and it became clear that this would not be possible in russia, they came up with other methods, but the fact is that the war has been going on for a long time, it has been going on all it seems to me 300 years when we have such a neighbor, a neighbor, well, but their methods changed precisely after february, yes, when they realized that they could not just keep... their money like that in power ms. kateryna, recently, tucker carlson, the odious former american journalist, was interviewing the russian dictator vladimir putin, and putin said that the only thing he regrets is that he didn't invade on a large scale, a full scale

army of the entire russian ukraine immediately after the 14th year. do we, or do we regret something that we did not do in the 14th year? well , in fact, maybe we can regret something that we did not do in the 14th year, because in fact we only have to regret that such a price was paid, hundreds of people were killed, and accordingly, it was somehow possible to get by with smaller victims, and we have to regret that even after 10 years, in fact , unfortunately, we may not have achieved full justice, according to the investigations, the murders on the maidan, to punish the guilty who did it, and for that we really have, we should feel sorry and ashamed in front of the people who

died. you, just like me, probably learned from the media that our current leader is the head of territorial defense. as is the former commander, in particular berkut and internal troops, at least some moments, fragments, let's say, the cleaning of the maidan, er, by the security forces, how did you perceive this information, is the current war, in principle, it ignores, ignores all those old sins and all those old miscalculations of the workers at that time, well, actually, i i also learned this zmi. well, moreover, when photos were already published there, some of them, i saw photos of communication with this person and myself in this photo and remembered that we really communicated with him, including these days, in the evening of february 20, when in fact

he asked assistance in the removal of fighters the internal members of the so-called from may because they already wanted to leave and remain a bus, leave on their buses, but in fact, given the fact that the roadblocks were not only on... data, but they were there, including on the left bank , on poznyaki, on haykivskyi and so on, they simply understood that they would not even be able to leave the territory of kyiv, and in fact asked for help, escort, he asked for an escort for his wards so that they could leave, in fact, we gave such a report, on one checkpoints, they left all their body armor and shields, but they left, that is, here ... it is necessary, i also saw several discussions and publications, that in fact it can

be considered a plus for him, the fact that he did not abandon, did not just run away and did not abandon his subordinates , let's say so, and accordingly he went to negotiate and somehow solve the issue so that they would leave the city safely, and probably for the military commander this is more of a plus than a minus. therefore, we will see in fact already by his actions, because this war is indeed somewhat difficult to evaluate, and even more so in fact it is even more difficult, i was more surprised by the video from dnipro, which i also learned from social networks, where berkut residents did not want to sign up, former berkut residents did not want to sign up for lut, remembering where they were offered to... mobilize, because they said that many of them had died on the maidan and so

on , that is, this is what really infuriated me, and even a big war is such, it does not change such situations, well then, by the way, it will probably be worth mentioning that the previous government was accused of many things, in particular because they did not live up to expectations, did not take advantage of the possible... complete with the historical chance that the moment allowed, maybe, well, it will also be easier to assess from some historical distance perspective, nevertheless, this government somehow came to the government offices through the maidan and felt responsible for this maidan and its supporters. if we talk about the current government, the government of mr. zelensky, then these are people, for the most part, not all of them, of course, but for the most part it was not. people who supported the maidan were not participants of the active maidan, and some were rather

opponents, zelensky is still reminded after all, these bonito sticks , which he joked about while supporting yanukovych's government at the time, whether this government, whether this or that actually affects something, and whether, for example, i don't know, maybe i missed it, whether mr. zelensky, in particular, should somehow be reassessed publicly their previous views. in order to actually strengthen unity in society and to understand that he somehow rethought himself 10 years ago. well, i'm not sure that now is the time for that, uh, and that it's going to be effective right now, just kind of rethinking, maybe he can write about it someday, memoirs and still rethink and tell how his vision has changed and whether it has changed. it really is, because now clearly what he has to show, he has to show

with actions, not just talk about whether his consciousness has changed or not, we have to evaluate exactly what he is doing and where he is going including moving the country, if we talk about the fact that the main demand of the maidan was the signing of the accession association. now we are also candidates for admission, so there are movements here, but this is probably a further reflection on the change of thinking itself, on it, i i think there will be time, in the future, somewhere will be found, but in the end, it is necessary to deal with this when we are at war, and here it is necessary to prove everything with actions, how much his vision has changed. actually, what did the 14th year become for ukraine,

was it such a bifurcation point, a turning point that changed the course of history, do you agree with this, as well as with the thesis that ukrainian independence actually really begins in the 14th year , yes, i absolutely agree, the 14th year was a turning point for our country, because in fact, i think that not only there mine... but also the life of many ukrainians, it changed, both before the 14th year and after the 14th year, it was divided in the same way, thereby dividing these lives. of this country before the 14th year and after the 14th year, so it was definitely, historically, i think that after many, many years historians will investigate and precisely study part of the history of the country, this is like one of the most important, one of the most important turning points moments in our history, do not

regret that it was not possible to stop yanukovych then, to prevent him from escaping? sorry, it would be better to do that, honestly, sorry, of course the sooner yanukovych would be stopped, the better it would be, well, well, it was not possible to do it then, yanukovych managed to escape, but nevertheless, that is not the point, it seems to me that it seems to me that to a large extent it is there was a revolution of dignity, and this revolution... also started the fact that ukraine chooses a democratic way of existence for itself, democracy, and therefore i also understand, by the way, that we have a very difficult task - to win a war that requires centralization , which requires consolidation of efforts, on the other hand to stay democracy and to progress as a democracy,

in this sense yaniverko three assessments look alarming, for example, the economist, where we are somewhere... that we are losing positions in the democratic index, absolutely yes, we need to continue, keep the level of democracy that we have, which we have after the 14th year and continue to fight for it, the real question here is that how high a price have we already paid for this democracy, for the right to live in a free country, to somehow take steps... we simply do not have the right to go back . thank you very much for this conversation, kateryna budko, the head of the all-ukrainian association avtomaidan, the head of the public council under the nazk was with us, and we allowed ourselves to recall the events of ten years ago. let me remind you that on the morning of february 20, people in the uniform of military personnel, or rather, ministry of

internal affairs employees, opened fire. according to the unarmed demonstrators, it happened on instytutska street, the alley of the heavenly hundred, and it was these events that actually started a chain of such irreversible movements, then a couple of days later yanukovych fled, er, well, actually history changed irrevocably, well russia made a decision to prevent ukraine from finally severing this umbilical cord that...connected it with the occupying russian empire. well, in the meantime, gentlemen, we will talk about the fact that two years ago, the russians also invaded the kyiv region. and literally in a few days they occupied the entire north of the region. so, on the eve of the anniversary

of the large-scale russian invasion, we remind you of how it happened in the kyiv region, in particular in the village of dymer, which... was under occupation for a month and a half, and our journalists prepared for you the story of an ordinary, but at the same time brave ukrainian pensioner, look further and stay with espress. dymyr village. from the very beginning it was under occupation, at 7 a.m. on february 25, enemy equipment broke into the village, and at that time the russians did not yet know what kind of people they encountered. such videos abound on the internet, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the ukrainians simply stole their equipment from under the noses of the occupiers.

glory to ukraine, valentyn, a pensioner from the dimer, did the same, and they drove from there, i let him down, they broke one tree and there they left him, they covered him with tarpaulin, two wires, mines, and he stood like that, during the occupation of dymir, he and his neighbor managed to steal a russian gasoline truck, hid it in a ravine, pumped out fuel for the needs of fellow villagers. and they collected it in canisters, carried the car and drove it, gave it to people, well, this is still the school with it left over there, it was us georgians who went there, and this is already further... no, because it was already empty. the russians even launched helicopters in search of the gas truck but did not find it, and

valentin still had a trophy as a souvenir. well he took it from a gas truck, and what else was there, the headquarters of the occupiers was not far from his house, the man recalls, the russians could not believe that they were living like this in a ukrainian village, i asked... who are you here, who is ordering you, or what , no , they were going to organize a parade and back, everyone in military vehicles was paraded, they were surprised how we live, he says what kind of garden, i say, but no, this is a village, the road to you, this is a wreath village, no, in bears roam our village, the occupiers stood in the chimney for a month and a half, and for valentine. seemed like an eternity, rashists they robbed, beat and tortured civilians , they took what they wanted, they took away flash drives

, telephones, whatever money was there, swept everything away , there was some money there, and they took it out, the whole toilet, not for nothing, they are not like that, but how was i in captivity, the woman said that everything was turned over. due to the theft of a gas truck and the reluctance of the locals to cooperate, the occupiers staged a purge. in a local factory, the invaders kept civilians. someone looked at them as they moved here somewhere. i was taken for the fact that i walked both on our side and on this one was to give positions where ours. up to 33 people were kept in this room at the same time.

shot this is all that remains of the base of the occupiers in the village. ukrainian troops squeezed them out of there and released dymer at the beginning of april 2022. here is a warehouse of ammunition and equipment. there was quite a bit here. nowadays, the inhabitants of the village are learning to live normally, but the horror brought by russian measures has remained with valentin forever. have you managed to recover from what happened two years ago? how do you feel, well, it remains, there is a residue, of

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greetings, time of news on the espressu tv channel, y kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, together with his wife olena, honored the memory of the heroes of the heavenly hundred. they put a llama. padkas near the memorial stele on the alley of heroes of the heavenly hundred in kyiv. in his telegram channel, the head of state wrote: 10 years ago, ukrainians were tried to be killed in their own country, in their own capital, just for the peaceful choice to be themselves and be free. at the scene of the terrible events on the maidan in kyiv.