to do in practice, you see, the man was killed, and the word people in it are not connected with ukraine , you see, that is, putin's russia is here, and the beautiful russia of the future is somewhere there, we will definitely return, although the chances of these people returning to russia are only in the case of the success of our army, it is so for... a second, but they, like oleksiy , avoided this question, i am already talking about the sandwich, it is banal, and there is no point in mentioning it, he had thoughts about international borders not long ago to death, in fact, he already wrote such a pretty cool one script, but wait, you know why i feel so sorry and disgusted with them actually, because in 14, when the war started,

they ignored the main thing, the war, you see, the war, they wanted to integrate into the system , which is political there, to get to some kind of election, to apply somewhere in russia, to vladimir maniac putin, and about ukraine they ruled that this is a different issue, it does not concern us, but as it turned out, everything zazano, and and for'. they pretend that they are not related this question, well me, what it must have been done to someone, and maybe it is more profitable for them, it is actually their business, it does not concern us, by the way, after the assassination of navalny in the united states of america, they started talking about putin's wing in the republican party, the former, former representative of the republicans in lizchein will be careful.. ... from this putin wing,

let's listen to what she said. we need to get serious about the extent to which we now have a putin wing in the republican party. i think the problem with this election cycle is so that the pudinsky wing of the republican party does not capture the west wing of the white house. roman, why doesn't the world speak, well, tougher. that there is no putin and, in principle, or medvedev, but somehow they will not be, at some certain moment, something will happen to him, and maybe then the events in russia will unfold in a completely different way? well, there it is, there are a million factors, russia will fall apart , nuclear weapons will fall apart, and if it does not fall apart, putin will have these nuclear weapons and he can bang on us, and here his alter ego dmytro alcoholovich medvedev says so. yes,

we, we bang on berlin, and washington, and kyiv, well, if only, it all affects them, and they , well, they don’t wage war, they themselves directly, they can afford such a long game, but you see , here is putin's wing, listen, so during russia's war against ukraine, and they say that they are fighting with states first of all, the united states denied ukraine weapons, weapons. refused, then what other, what, what other proofs do you need in terms of the presence of putin's wing, if we are guided by this logic, the fact that navalny was killed, well, excuse me, with all due respect to the deceased, his influence on russian politics and the situation in russia was zero, does anyone like it or not? but it's the truth, harsh and terrible, because

he chose this path, we'll fly to russia, boy, we'll bring vodka home, we'll fly , that's all, the movie is over, that 's why, you know, it's somehow so strange for me, everyone seems to understand everything, here is the munich conference... everyone says generally great things, the right things, everyone understands the danger, but when it comes down to business, the smartest are the people of action, well among such states of western europe, not our neighbors, here the poles are a question mark for you, well , it's the danes who say, damn it, we have weapons, so why us, we have weapons, and we don't use them. now, so let's give it

to ukraine, and i want to ask everyone a question, do you care about it, care about it, you look at the statements there, we will prepare. to the war with putin, no, well, i understand, there are technologies here in order to increase defense budgets and spin up the defense complex, but in fact, well, something tells me that such states as france, well, nothing is in danger, but they can really give all their ammunition, they support us, they really support us, and there are a lot of such examples, it all stands, gathering dust, well, let's... hope that vladimir putin will convince everyone , only he will convince not only with navalny's blood, ours in the first place, and not only with the weapons that he is using now, because we

talked a lot with you on the air about medvedev, his statements, and in fact, if someone there was not ironic to what he 's saying, but we kind of... with you got to conclusion that what dmitry medvedev articulates, as in the show, the sober is on the mind, the drunk is on the tongue, well, we can assume that medvedev is the one, the drunk on the tongue, on the mind is the one , who putin is, and what he said yesterday, that if we are pushed to the borders of 1991, then we, we will have enough of a nuclear triad, and for kyiv, and for london, and for berlin, and for washington, i.e. they... are already openly loading everyone with nuclear weapons, and to be honest, watching their actions, i have no doubt that they they can press the button, that is, so what, and what can stop them? well, determination, decisive actions, and alkogolevich's words should be taken

seriously, why? because it is called another such trusted mouth of vladimir putin announces such... it is the glory of putin, why he does not announce it himself, because, well , first of all, he demonstrates that i am more or less normal compared to my pasikpaks, and secondly, because he emphasizes, he has the opportunity to take steps to the left, to the right there are some other steps, that is, this situation somehow, well, it gives room for maneuver for the russian kirimanovich, because well... no one knows what the turn will be after the elections in the same states, even if trump returns, for example, i am not sure that america will sing the russian anthem there and so on, anything can happen in a completely different way, and this is all

understandable, and you see, it is strange that ah, well, the western world, it is actually, it is not afraid. russian federation. here, because they believe that it cannot be, because it cannot be. well, after our events, i would n't take it so lightly. well, with help, you see, it is somehow, it will be solved with the american one, there, i see, biden wants to meet with johnson, the debate, well, that is, the work is being done there. but what does this demonstrate, in general, this dispute, it demonstrates the next thing, that is, all the russians think, yes, the americans trembled, not now so much later, no, somehow, somehow it, somehow we will squeeze them, squeeze these pindos and so

on, and if the will of the american state and the west had been absolutely like this, you know, without... without delay, well, the situation would have been different, thank you, we have to go off the air, sorry roman , it was roman tsymbalyuk, my colleague, journalist, friends, during the broadcast we conduct broadcasts and ask whether you trust the information of the united telethon, our survey will continue in the second part of our program, where we will have political scientists, vitaly kulyk, ihor reiterovych and maksym rozumny, are not immune to pipe bursts. none, and even a small leak can cost you tens of thousands of hryvnias for repairs. unpack tv presents super protect insulating tape, strong, rubberized, waterproof tape that will instantly stop any leakage, and the price is only from uah 99. superprotect has

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victory. greetings, friends, the verdict program is live on the tv channel, my name is serhii rudenko, i greet everyone, and before starting our broadcast, i want to announce information from the press service of the espresso tv channel, today. on february 19, around 7:30 p.m., unknown hackers gained access to the broadcast signal of the espresso tv channel, the attackers posted a short clip on the air of the tv channel with footage of destroyed ukrainian cities, a video with joseph biden and a call to stop. alluding to the alleged involvement of the united states of america in the war in ukraine. we regret that our viewers could see this provocative video on air. he is responsible for the war in ukraine. exclusively russia, this is an obvious fact that the authors of the video tried

to twist, it makes it clear that the russians were involved in the attack on espresso, as commented in the press service of our tv channel, and the espresso team has already taken all necessary security measures and is preparing an appeal to law enforcement agencies , this is the message if you saw this video today, please excuse me, it was a break-in of russian houses. who glued this video to the advertising block. today, in the second part of our program , we will talk about this. the fate of the russian ref, radical deputization or the search for compromises, why there is no unity among the western partners regarding the future of russia. anger and people. navalny's wife called on the russians to destroy the dictatorial regime. who and how can put an end to the existence of fascist russia? format change request.

ukrainians' trust in the telethon only news continues to fall. why information policy. during today's program, we are conducting a poll, friends, we ask you this : do you trust the information of the united telethon, if you watch us on youtube, vote yes or no, or write your opinion under this video, if you are sitting in front of the tv and watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone and vote if you trust the information of the only telethon 0800 211 381 or 0800 200. 11382. all calls to these numbers are free, at the end program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce the guests of today's studio, they are vitaly kulyk, director of the center for the study of civil society problems, ihor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development. gentlemen, i welcome you, thank you for joining

our broadcast. and maxim also joined our broadcast. political expert, doctor of political sciences, mr. maksym, i also congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. well, since we are asking about trust in information, to the only one telethon, then let's do a blitz poll, you gentlemen will answer this question, do you trust the information of the united telethon, let's start with vitaly, vitaly, well, actually, how can you not trust it, if it is, it is official. position , it is broadcast through a single, single information source, so don’t trust it, there is no sense here, the question is what accents are placed, how they interpret this news that they present, this is already a different situation, and the fact that they are not balanced they do it, there are no different points of view of different political ones

groups that are present with different points of view in society in general, that are present, but there is only one dominant one: i do not trust this point of view, but everything else, well, actually speaking , this is officialdom, this is the voice, the voice of the state, thank you, mr. igor, of course i trust all the information and official information that appears there, there are quite a lot of inclusions from representatives of local self-government bodies, state authorities, and it is the right position to listen to them in general, since they are usually familiar there with the situation on the ground and can more or less adequately comment on what is happening. the only thing is that there are certain real questions about certain evaluation judgments and some ukrainian organizations have the same media detector there, they do a fairly serious analysis of all the broadcasts that take place there and indicate that there is indeed a bias in some political positions, some political statements, or representations or not representation of various groups of society, which in

turn are represented there by factions or deputy groups in the parliament, this bias must exist, and it must... take into account, it is necessary to correct, or even to some extent change the format that the united marathon currently has, but it performed its task, at least for a large part of the time, performed it very well from the point of view of countering, including russian disinformation, and as a source official information to date, well, it does not raise any special questions. thank you, mr. maxim, do you trust the information of the united telethon? actually, the very idea of ​​the one... telethon was to have only one thing a source of information that can definitely be trusted, that is, in this sense, the telethon played its important role and obviously continues to fulfill this role to some extent, but of course, in the dimension of some kind of social communication, it is, in my opinion, already a certain

kind of anachronism, since the information pro.. . the space of ukraine, despite the war, is polyphonic, multifaceted and contains many interpretations, in this sense, so to speak, the monopoly position of a single telethon, it already looks somewhat artificial, and in this sense it obviously has some to transform in a way, that is, it is possible to change the tonality, it is possible to make the interpretation that he gives to current events more... balanced, and to take his rightful place in the information field of ukraine. actually. why do we ask tv viewers and our experts about trust, because kmis conducted a survey and found out that single news,

rating and trust in single news continues to fall, according to the results of a social survey of the kyiv international institute of sociology, as of february 24 only 36% of respondents trust the information from the telethon. it is worth noting. that in may 22nd the trust in the united news was 69%, in december 23rd 43%, i mean that it is not the editors of espresso who invented the poll about trust or lack of trust, but sociologists also measure the rating of trust in news and before a single telethon works, it is obvious that it must take place with... here you can agree with maksym rozumny that work needs to be done, and if there is already this telethon, it means that it must somehow be made available to all

political forces, and all political forces in that among others, we must comment on the events taking place in the state, and in the end, since we are on the air of the espresso tv channel, the espresso tv channel and the 5th and direct channel must still return to t2, where we were simply illegally kicked out. from digital broadcasting, and we are not present on many platforms and on many televisions that our viewers watch. however, friends, let's talk about russia, because the recent events that took place in russia, they testify that putin and his entire team, they are ready to go to the last and are not at all going to give up their plans for ukraine, for the destruction of ukraine, for the destruction of ukrainians, and the recent events surrounding the murder of oleksii navalny, and

enough of such a calm, i would say generally calm reaction in russia and a restless reaction in the west, it shows the fact that putin continues to be feared in the west, putin... is trying to intimidate the west and with medvedev, because medvedev said yesterday about the possible use of nuclear weapons again, but the more they talk about it, the more there is a feeling that they can to do, well at least demonstrate how it will all be. why, gentlemen, in your opinion, the west does not take stricter measures against russia and not... the question of the future of russia without putin, without medvedev, well, simply put, why western partners do not talk about deputization, demilitarization and

denazification of russia. vitaliy, to say that it exists, that this discourse is absent, in the west is absent, i would not say that, as well as the sending of our post-soviet map, and communication with... colleagues in the united states, britain, european capitals, in of experts shows that there are people, and in particular from the political class, who are aware of the need for depotinization, derasization, and dismantling of the russian empire, this awareness, there are equal developments, positions, there are whole... groups of lobbyists who advocate the actualization of this position, that she is stubborn, but a large part of the political class of the west, especially

the european one, as if from a terrible dream tries to get rid of the idea of ​​fragmentation of the russian empire, for them something is so not just unrealistic, so threatening the idea that russia will save itself and how to eat... the state can not to exist, for what it is worth saying, one of the desired ones, they are starting to talk about the unpredictability of the consequences, about the chaos of the situation in russian space, about the threat of nuclear proliferation, but sorry, this is all already happening, we already see how north korea receives space technology from russia , as regimes such as iran's are rapidly building their own nuclear bomb. as missiles and the latest technologies and drones appear in various groups in venezuela or in

bolivia, we see how russia is rapidly trying to transfer state-of-the-art weapons to to various tribal regimes in the sahel in africa, that is, it is already happening, and it makes no sense to bury your head in the sand, to ignore the obvious facts that already exist from the west. the only thing that, so far, why this does not change this discourse, in my opinion, is that europe has not, by and large, answered the question, but how it will militarize itself, how it will respond to russian aggression on territory of the european union, is it capable of an adequate response to russian aggression? here on this is a question that the europeans have not yet answered for themselves, and accordingly they do not have a picture of what to do with russia without putin or russia without the russian federation as a state. when will they answer this question,

what? what is military europe , is it ready to respond , is nato ready to change, what will be the model of the new nato, the new european response, is it even possible to have a european military response without the united states, without the role to which it is accustomed, these are the questions for now europe has not given answers for itself then if it gives an answer, it will be possible to ask accordingly and what to do, and we will hear the answers, what to do with post-russia, mr. maxim, when... europe will give answers to these questions, what to do, and in the event that the united states america will refuse to participate in the north atlantic alliance, and this will be a problem exclusively for european countries, western european countries, relatively speaking , russia's problem, will it not be too late, because the speed with which events are developing in europe, in particular in ukraine and... in general in her

for that part of europe, which is called muscovy, a simple logical question arises, whether it will come to the point of somehow formulating the issue and formulating its position, that is, whether putin and medvedev will not first press the button they promise to press? well, there is really a lot here. a lot, when, how and if, actually, this if , it seems to me, is key today both for understanding european political elites and for understanding american political elites, in fact, understanding such excesses as the last statement, not yet registered, but presidential candidate, the very likely

donald. the president of america, that he, they say, will encourage putin to attack his allies of the united states of america in europe. why is this happening? i think because in reality, despite all the rhetoric that we sometimes hear, the sense of threat, the sense of threat is not really there, that is, america, which is looking at all this from the sidelines. it's not just donald trump, it's his voters, so to speak, and they're watching that for two or two years , a huge, terrible, russian army storms bakhmut, well, with by some kind of overexertion of all forces, losing a third of the black sea fleet there, losing planes and so on, and also face, in fact, before

the world community, well until... achieves some small successes, that is, until washington, berlin, the english channel, such a russian army is still very far away, and it seems to me that these european and american elites, they have not yet entered the zone of turbulence that would force them to give the kind of reactions that we hope for, of course, that... a completely different mood in lithuania or latvia or in estonia or poland and even in finland, but this is not yet the general opinion of europe, the general opinion of the european elites. actually, today the reaction of the west looks like it was during the cold war. actually, navalny, the reaction to...