it will never happen, it will never happen, it will never happen, as it did not happen, there was no assessment of the consequences of the afghan war, which for some reason in russian society, and what to do in certain layers of our society, is perceived as fulfilling an international duty, although it is clear to everyone , that it was a frankly mysterious war, and these losses were absolutely senseless, in the context of the russian federation , this will not happen at all, because today the russian ... authorities have gained such a consensus with society, when society does not ask questions about the war and at the same time they receive quite serious financial support. let's face it, for those who are in combat with the russian army, the money that contract workers in russia get is money that they could not make in their entire lives, and they get it in one month, so that's why this is quite a serious motivation, and one must also realize that... until

the war spills over into the territory of the russian federation, as such, there is no point in talking about that they will be aware that something is happening there with them and that they are doing something wrong. well, you know, here as an example, i can give my words just such a comparison with germany after the first world war. germany never waged hostilities on its territory during the first world war. that's why everything that happened there was perceived as exclusively wrong... and we saw that this injustice was transformed in the end, to what world- class tragedy it led to, approximately the same situation with the russians, who are under the mad influence of propaganda, and they want to be under the influence of propaganda, so such a time will not come, and i repeat once again we must approach this practically and absolutely deliberately destroy the combat potential of the enemy and destroy his economic economic... can

the supply of long-range weapons from germany, taurus , and attack cams from the united states of america to ukraine change the course of the russian-ukrainian war ? the american press writes that the decision has already been made to provide missiles that fly much further than the ones we actually use, or could it change the nature of war? well, you know, two aspects to pay attention to. that is, the number of these munitions, because you understand, 10-20 taurus or atakams, they physically cannot change the situation, and the second is the possibility of using them on the territory of the enemy, because you know, dear doctor will tell you that you need to fight the causes of the disease , and not with the consequences, because it is very difficult to repel each missile, and in order to minimize the enemy's ability to wage war, it is necessary to strike against him. that is, we are talking about

a political decision and the quantitative indicators of such types of weapons, but they are one of the elements of achieving victory in this war, because we can strike at the objects of the enemy's rear, but we understand that we must strike hundreds and hundreds of such blows, so yes, this is an important element, but it must be understood that it is only one of the elements. thank you, mr. serhiy, for the conversation, it was serhiy gradskyi. military expert, veteran of the international mission in iraq, co-founder of the all-ukrainian union of participants in peacekeeping operations. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and we are conducting polls on youtube as well, and on tv we are asking you whether polish trucks should be blocked in response to poles' actions. it's pretty simple on youtube: yes, no, or write your comment on what you think about it. you can vote on television.

by numbers if you think it's necessary block polish trucks, in response to their blocking, 0800 211 381, no 0800-211-382. call, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , we have oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert on foreign and security policy, center for defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, sir. let's have fun, i hope you will also answer the question that we ask our viewers and tv viewers about well, do we need to block polish carriers, as they block ours , so that, well, they also feel that not only ukraine, but also poland suffers from the blockade? no, to be honest, i don't think that it is necessary to resort to mirror measures due to the fact that what is happening at the border is of a complex nature. of course there is an anti-ukrainian

element, the confederation, of course there are also provocateurs, and by the way, today the ministry of foreign affairs of poland wrote about it so that they call on the organizers. of this blockade to seek out and expel provocateurs from their ranks , who definitely work for the russian special services, but there are also deep structural problems, i am not saying that our agriculture and the polish economy are excellent, it is extremely dependent on subsidies, and there are problems with that, and of course, ukrainian grain is cheaper, although what was being transported now, i looked at our january... yes, he says that only 5% of total exports were transported through polish territory and not to poland, to other countries of the european union, that is, in fact ukrainian grain is not a problem, the principle is also what was before, that ukrainian grain is cheaper, taking into account the structure of our agriculture, there are more

households, this is also the return of vat, which gives a certain advantage in ukrainian agrarian business, well, that is one part , and there is still a part more. deep, and this is precisely the fact that the poles are dissatisfied with the policy of the european community, and they demand , by and large, not to stop the transit of goods from ukraine, they demand from their own government to actually stop the policy, one of the policies of the european union, which harms farmers, and of course against the background of the next elections, which will be held in april, of course the authorities... are behaving quite cautiously, we would like, of course, more decisively, here, but it is clear that they don't have a tradition of dispersing manifestos and protests with sticks, well, on the other hand, of course the government could be more proactive, well, let's see what

the visit of ukrainian officials to the border and president zelenskyi's call to his colleagues from poland that we need to find a common solution will do, of course . that it is absolutely what is happening here is unacceptable , especially given the difficult economic and battlefield situation that is currently in ukraine, but we certainly do not need to create additional problems that we have, we will sometimes have friction with poland, we are very similar in terms of the economy and society are very similar, and of course this is not the first crisis, not the first frictions that we have and will continue to have until we stop. a powerful member of the european union and nato, and of course then the modus operandi with the poles will be somewhat different. well , we will wait for the meeting of the polish and ukrainian government officials, who should meet by february 24, as he said,

president zelenskyi proposed today. meanwhile , the united states on friday plans to announce a major package of sanctions against russia over the death in prison of opposition leader alexei navalny. former president of the united states of america donald trump called navalny a brave person who was not afraid to return to russia and compared himself to navalny. let's hear what the president, former president trump, said. the situation with navalny is very sad, and he is very brave, he was very brave boyfriend because he came back, even though he might not have come back, and to be honest, it probably would have been a lot better if he had stayed. and spoke from abroad than came back because people thought it might happen and it happened and it's terrible but it's happening in our country too, we're turning into a communist country in many ways and if you look on that, i'm the leading candidate,

i've been indicted, i 've never heard of being indicted before, i've been indicted four times, i've eight or nine trials and... called i understand, well, drew parallels, but he recognized putin's regime as communist, i mean that putin's regime is cannibalistic, that is, cannibalistic, and it is absolutely obvious why the united states of america , as well as our western, other partners, admit that putin... killed navalny, but vladimir putin does not bear the responsibility for this, as well as the responsibility for the murder of tens of thousands of ukrainians, that is, they will introduce some more sanctions, but which will not stop putin for sure, that is, is this an option

these sanctions, is it possible to talk about the fact that putin should be stopped in some other way, that is, including by physical removal. well, you know, this is a difficult question, and i would send all of us to august 1, 1991 and george bush the elder's address to the ukrainian parliament. that the ukrainians did not choose independence, because they were afraid, i am the americans, that the empire of evil would fall apart, and all these nuclear, chemical, bacteriological weapons, conventional weapons would pose a great threat to the world, well, of course europeans, but also americans, and this fear of the collapse of the russian federation is still there. the second point is that for a long time now, the americans have abandoned the policy of regime change, and by and large this administration ... from the very beginning said that it was not involved, well, at least the last interesting curiosity, when the director of the cia

called to mr. naryshkin, his russian colleague, and assured that the united states had nothing to do with, that is, rebellion, this, as his prigozhin, that is, the fear of the collapse of the russian federation, a constant emphasis, that they do not interfere in the internal affairs of the russian federation, these are ... things that restrain the united states, and of course, that they leave the opportunity for negotiations with russia, precisely because the call of one of the leading republican senators , lindsey graham, to introduce regarding the russian federation's status as a state sponsor of terrorism is unlikely to be implemented either by this administration or by donald trump, who will definitely try to start from scratch. relations with the russian federation, well, if of course he is elected president, that's why

there are deterrents, and of course, the united states also understands that it is quite difficult to break the russian federation, well, by non-military means, given that they have already adapted to sanctions and found the opportunity to trade with the so-called global south, china is very helpful, and by the way, this is another such fear of the americans that this will happen... such an alliance between russia and china, and then it will be much more difficult to restrain china in the indo-pacific region, and by the way , the collapse of the russian federation can also lead to the fact that one of such large rich regions as siberia can become part of china, in this way will radically strengthen this country and its ambitions, its capabilities, that's why all these things work, and well, we understand that... it would be right , to be honest, i don’t care for what such sanctions

would be imposed that would break the russian economy, either for ukraine, or for navalny, who is definitely not popular in our country, or for ukrainian children, killed or stolen, or for navalny was introduced to the status of a sponsor of terrorism, for me it is important, of course, that this the under-empire of evil, so that it too would be destroyed, here, but unfortunately, these political calculations, fears... they control the strategy of the united states, and therefore they will not resort to such drastic movements. on february 24 , there will be a meeting in the format of an online meeting of the big seven, and president zelensky will participate in this meeting. it is clear that there will be a statement, probably a joint declaration of the participants, after two years of war. of the big seven, at the same time we see how today

the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation flew to rio de janeiro federation sergey lavrov to the meeting of the g20, where the heads of foreign affairs meet, and there, as reported by russian propagandists, he will meet with ministers from mexico, the south african republic, bolivia, brazil and possibly turkey. we see, mr. oleksandr, the same picture, that everyone says that putin is waging an aggressive and unjust war, but the same lavrov participates in various international conferences, in meetings at the un general assembly, why western partners , well, although would not block access to it. to these sites and do not show that russia is now a country of exiles, russia is a country

that is a country of fascists, yes, racists, a country that kills, why, why is he not punished, admission to these structures, well you know, this is a consequence of such a relative decline of the west, the group of seven of its time, it was the most developed, they are still. remain the most developed countries, but from the point of view of their economic volumes, they are inferior to china, there to india, brazil and a number of other countries, and these countries i believe... that it is absolutely in their interests to continue such a dialogue with the russian federation that russia cannot be defeated, russia is needed in order to solve some global problems, for example, the same lulada silva, he, let's say, is a person who actually looks on the conflict between russia and ukraine

through the eyes of moscow, and he tried to offer his solution there, which absolutely does not suit us. well, i also want to remind you that his protege, president rusev, was 14 years old when she was president, and brazil then abstained from voting for the resolution of the general assembly on the territorial integrity of ukraine. that is, in principle , these are things that show the attitude of this country. it seems to them that these are some european disputes, it seems to them that the west uses double standards when it did not come to help. these countries, when they did not intervene and did not stop the conflicts, well, i am not talking about latin america, but rather about africa and asia, and that is, they have such a reluctance to side with ukraine and the west, because they have criticism of the west and the united states very often especially there in the 60s, they behaved

quite aggressively, that is, this memory is there, and they are projecting everything that happened then onto the current stage, and if... the states support ukraine, then maybe something is wrong there absolutely so, and some legitimate legitimate interests of the russian federation were violated, therefore the global south is the west, as they say, the west and the rest, that is, there is the west and there is the rest of the world , and unfortunately, the rest of the world very often either stands aside, or well, in fact, it helps the russian regime, and that is why the influence of the west is here partners is limited, well, finally, i will also say, for example, what... what is happening with india, because india is the largest democracy in the world, now a large amount of capital, technology, enterprises from china is being transferred to india, primarily american, i have attention, and, but on the other hand, hindus are very , shall we say, critically and nervously perceive any appeals from the british,

the french there or the americans, it seems to them that this is a manifestation of colonial policy, but they are independent. a state that was a country non-alignment during the cold war, and they believe that this is the right course for the future, although we know that china has territorial claims on india, and there were conflicts in 16 there was a clash there with casualties, and in the future for that , for india to be safe, for it to develop economically, they definitely need to be in the western camp, primarily with the united states, but so far they are taking such a ... position, i understand that their armed forces are quite dependent, especially the ground component depends on russian weapons, they would like to continue the cooperation of the naval forces, because the same submarines with nuclear generators are russian, well, joint production, but actually russian technology, they want to buy russian oil, and then sell

it to the same europe and make money from it, i'm not talking about consuming these cheap resources, that is, in principle, they have... and remarks of a political nature, but of course they are manipulative, and of course, that there is a thirst to use this situation to your advantage in the economic dimension, well, that's for sure, mr. alexander, i also wanted to ask you about iran, because today there was information that iran provided the russian federation with about 400 earth-class ballistic missiles, earth, however, ukrainian intelligence does not confirm these. information that do not have such information, but there were international sanctions against iran, starting in 1979, when the so-called islamic revolution took place there, then these sanctions were implemented by the un security council, and it seems to me that if i do not i'm wrong, in the 16th year, the united states

of america and the european union announced the lifting of sanctions against iran. now iran is finding. under sanctions and as a supply, it is possible to supply ballistic missiles to russia in order for it to use them on the territory of ukraine, how should this affect the sanctions policy of the west regarding iran? well, first of all, there are sanctions that were introduced by the un, then the russian federation also voted for it, and it is clear that this cannot happen now, so if there will be any sanctions, it will definitely be... the united states and their european allies, perhaps a few more democratic countries, such as japan, south korea, that is, we can hope for that. the lifting of sanctions from... well, it was related to this joint plan of president obama, because they wanted to take control of the nuclear program at the time, to allow iran, under

the control of the magathe, to develop a peaceful nuclear, and of course, after president trump canceled this agreement, because the israelis were really not satisfied with it, because besides the fact that it is actually a threshold country, it can quite quickly... acquire this nuclear status, they have materials, there is production, and the most important thing is that they have missile systems that are capable, well, in fact, of striking any territory in europe, it seems to me that they do not finish britain there, but, by the way , ukraine is also within the range of certain of their systems, that is, in principle, they are a ready-made nuclear country, there is literally a little left, and the israelis were dissatisfied with this, and the second thing, what we saw on october 7. it's hamas and then something hezbollah added from lebanon, that is, it's a proxy group that mr. alexander, i have

to warn that we have 30 seconds on the air, yes, yes, that is, in principle, the best sanctions, this is the first time that the israeli special services or the air force strike or carry out acts that actually destroy partial enterprises or kill those scientists who are involved in these ... programs , other effective things, it seems to me that it is difficult to imagine now, thank you, thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr khara, a diplomat, there are discounts on uroles, 15% in pharmacies plantain, you and savings, there are discounts on glisieset and glisieset max, 15% in pharmacies plantain, pam and oskad, available discounts on helpex 20% in pharmacies plantain pam. and saving vasyl zima's big broadcast. this is

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congratulations, friends, this is live on the tv channel, the verdict program. the second part is in the program today. pashinsky's case is in the anti-corruption court. why is the government

trying to convict the head? politics during the war, zelensky's rating is declining, are russian special services involved in the escalation of political conflicts in ukraine. shame and shame. the polish authorities condemn the farmers' protests, but do not solve the problem of the blockade border should polish trucks be blocked in response? we will talk about this and other things with our guests in the next 45 minutes. but i remind you that in parallel with our tv broadcast, we are working on our sites on facebook and youtube and conducting polls, today we are asking you about whether it is necessary to block polish trucks in response to the actions of the poles, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, or write your opinion in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if do you think that we should

block them in response to the poles... there are trucks 0800-211-381 no 0800-211-382 all calls to these numbers are free, call, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce the guests of today's studio, this is oleksiy koshel, political scientist, head of the committee of voters of ukraine. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. thank you, good evening. serhiy taran, political scientist, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you and thank you for... being with us today, i congratulate you, gentlemen, as we are asking our viewers and tv viewers about whether it is necessary to block polish trucks in response to the actions of the poles, i propose in the format of a blitz poll that you answer this question, whether we should block the poles so that they understand that they can also suffer from similar actions by ukraine , mr. oleksiy, it is very difficult to give a clear answer,

there must be a whole... complex of actions, but the key actions must be on the part of the cabinet of ministers, and the crisis in ukrainian-polish relations, i emphasize the issue of not only grain, but the entire complex of ukrainian-polish relations , the crisis is so big that i think i will not be wrong if i say that these are the worst ukrainian-polish relations during the entire period of ukrainian independence, and here it is obvious that you will not save the situation either by blockades , individual actions, or actions at the level of ministers there or profile vice prime ministers, obviously, this issue needs to be settled at the level of the government, rather at the level of the presidents. thank you, but today president zelensky said that the heads of government should meet by february 24 at the border of ukraine and poland, and if necessary participation of zelenskyi, he can also join this meeting. mr. serhiy, what do you think, should we show the poles what the blockade means?

when it comes to big politics, about security issues, it is always served not by emotions, but by rational actions, and the question is always asked, what are the consequences of these actions and whether it is in the interests of the country that does it, if we consider it , then i think that the general blocking of the ukrainian-polish border will not be in favor of ukraine, by the way, not in favor poland, that is why we need to look for other approaches, and we need to solve the issue in such a way that the movement of agricultural products is also renewed, especially those things that work for ukrainian defense, what exactly needs to be done, of course, i will answer later, but at least we should always look at two steps forward, to understand what will happen after our actions, and having this strategy, to solve the issues in such a way that they benefit the interests of ukraine, and not in favor of emotions, even if these emotions are very fair. thank you mr. serhiy, well, since we are talking about in the case of poland, we are talking about... about

security and our logistical capabilities, first of all during the war, it is important to talk about what is actually happening in other areas, well, in particular, in the defense industry , and in particular with the head of the national association of defense industry enterprises of ukraine serhii pashynskyi, today the higher anti-corruption court chose a preventive measure for serhii pashinsky in the case of the nationalization of oil products of the oligarch kurchenko, this case somewhere... a year ago , the prosecutor's office requested an arrest and a bail of uah 300 million, today a preventive measure was not chosen, the court adjourned until february 23, lawyer andrii fedur is convinced that the suspicion is unfounded, the investigation did not provide any evidence, however, he is sure that his client will be arrested after all.