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may cause additional pressure on iran due to sanctions, although we can see that iran is developing its defense industry quite effectively under sanctions, if in any case we understand the risks that it exists, we need to look for political and military ways, zgorets said. with us, and now a moment of silence for the ukrainians who died due to russian aggression. let's observe a moment of silence. memory of ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.
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greetings to all viewers, this is svoboda ronok, me my name is katerynan nekrech, and in this morning 's broadcast we talk about the following topics: two years of the great war, how about... during this time , the attitude towards the russian-ukrainian war in the west has changed, are they ready for more support there, or for the third year of the war, kyiv will lead to negotiations and whether there will be a second attempt to occupy the capital, we will try to find answers. how has the ukrainian army changed over the past two years, what military assistance have partners already provided to ukraine, and what is the armed forces still waiting for, and when will the taurus and f-16s arrive. putin will lose the economic war, and he won't win the military war quickly enough to... sneer at
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it writes the telegraph publication. how does the russian economy work today, why despite the sanctions, moscow has shown economic stability. write your questions about the topics of the broadcast under this video, share your thoughts and summaries for these two years. russian troops attacked odessa with missiles and drones at night. missiles of the kha-31 and kh-22 types have lost their capability in the air, as reported by the south's defense forces. also there they say about... nine downed drones, however, one mine, struck over the sea , fell on an enterprise in the coastal zone, there was destruction and a fire, three people died, one person was taken out of the building unharmed, but in the dnipro, drones hit an apartment building, people are being searched under the rubble, at the moment it is known about eight wounded, seven of whom were hospitalized, also the russian military attacked the novovodolazh community in the kharkiv region at night, hit a warehouse with grain and...
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cowshed, animals were found under the rubble. in total, the air force reported 23 downed shahedis this night. stabilization of the conflict in exchange for security guarantees. western leaders may start pushing ukraine to negotiate with russia in order to freeze the front. it is in such formulations that the newspaper writes about this policy. citing sources in european and american government offices. interlocutors of the publication believe that this will make it possible to put the war on... a pause in exchange for the territorial gains of the russian federation in ukraine. the territories occupied by russia, they say, can leave it in exchange for an international security guarantee for ukraine and ukraine's future path to the european union. diplomats, as the politician writes, admit that such negotiations have failed in the past, but they say they give putin time to prepare new attacks. meanwhile, the increase in financial and military aid from the west for ukraine during this year in european embassies is perceived even more skeptically than the negotiations. and without this one. aid, ukraine
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will not be able to de-occupy the territories. in addition, the politician writes about representatives of western business, who hope to return to the usual conduct of business with russia soon after a hypothetical war freeze. therefore , western leaders are in no hurry to transfer frozen russian assets to ukraine, fearing the consequences. at the same time , some nato policy interlocutors say that ukraine is not going to fall apart, the gloomy mood is exaggerated. we will talk about the political... bags of two years of the great war with our guest in the studio, this is the executive director of the institute of world politics, ukrainian political scientist yevhen magda. yevgeny, i congratulate you, we are glad to see you in the radio liberty studio. good morning. let's start with this one information about the talks, in your opinion, can western politicians really think about it , can they see a certain plan in it, because literally there a few weeks ago, reuters, citing their sources in the kremlin, in fact, they wrote that moscow was trying to go to such negotiations, to some... talks with the west with representatives
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in the usa, but in the usa they were clearly told that without ukraine there will be no such talks, so who can believe, after all, the west is set on a freeze and negotiations or ? maybe the greatest help to ukraine, we must first of all believe in our defenders and believe in them, this is the first, second, any negotiations that do not adhere to the principle of not talking about ukraine without ukraine, they are doomed to failure. i cannot imagine that the biggest war in the world would end with some decision from the side without taking into account the opinions of the leadership of ukraine, without taking into account the position of the citizens of ukraine. this, this is simply impossible. and we have to be conscious and have to constantly promote this idea in conversations with any of our foreign partners, because if we don't say that, then we accordingly give a boost to similar posts, you know, in this post, for me, i saw the sense just in
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the business component, when we want, i think our viewers know that russia is a place. where you can make very big profits, why? buy raw materials cheaply and sell finished products with a high level of added value, that is, i will really get significant profits, a huge territory, about 150 million people, they will now record the entire population, the population occupied territories, by the way, i am very interested in what politicians will write about the prospects of recognizing putin's re-elections, where these re-elections in... in mid-march will be held in the occupied territories of ukraine , will the west recognize them, what is their information, we can as participants in the air of an influential media to give such an editorial task to another influential media, but that no elections for the so-called elections in the occupied territories of ukraine
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were recognized by the world. yes, but in the territories, for example, it did not take place officially putin's presidential campaign. ugh, in the territory of donetsk, luhansk regions, they could take people there to vote in the territory of russia, this was before the large-scale invasion, now when they announced the annexation of these territories in september, when the largest territory in europe is occupied after 1945 , and if the world recognizes this, says that putin is the president of russia, that we, we do not like him, but he is the president of russia, then we are dealing with double standards. well, how else, well , that is, elections, forced passporting, elections it is prohibited in the occupied territory , it is an international crime, it is a violation of the norms of international law, and we must constantly talk about it, we must emphasize it, but on the other hand, this is not the first time that russia violates international law, the law in
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these 10 years in ukraine , at least, if we are talking about ukraine, if we talk about one more point in this material, politics, it seems like they are writing about what is going on. some politicians are trying to push ukraine in such a way that there are certain territorial concessions, as if this would give an opportunity freeze the war and eventually return to normal relations with the kremlin. in your opinion, after all, what position prevails in the west, what is the understanding of modern russia, and even more so in this russian-ukrainian war, it is possible to agree on something with the kremlin, this territory of currently occupied ukraine will be enough for them to freeze there is no going anywhere after this war, because it seems as if it was agreed upon, is this not the end for russia? the specificity of a democratic society is that it can be different views, that is, there may be people who believe that it is impossible to negotiate with putin, there are people who believe that it is possible to negotiate, there are people who are convinced that it is possible to negotiate,
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but for certain reasons, this is a democratic society, but everyone who negotiates with putin should make a simple model: will a person negotiate... with another person who killed his relative and robbed his apartment, very simple, will he still wait for the actions of the law enforcement officers and the court's decision, well, international relations by and large , they often resemble interpersonal ones relations, there is no world police, there in the soviet union they liked to call the united states the gendarme of world imperialism, in the united states other similar constructions were used in relation to... the soviet union, but just talking about the fact that we will come to an agreement is enough, that swallowed the war in georgia at one time, it is enough that the sanctions, as we see, after ten years ago after
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the occupation of crimea, they were also insufficient, now we see that on the one hand the 13th sanctions package has been adopted, large-scale, large, everything, but it turns out that russia can... it, because once again the principle of free business works, and you can't ban everyone from doing business because of the fact that russia exists in the world, so... we have to promote, among other things , if we are talking about the political results of the war, we are weakly promoting the thesis that russia needs to realize its nation's right to self-determination, this is the way to dismantle russia in its current form. this is a normal process, because every empire will be destroyed, this is the slogan that we we just have to raise our flag now. and to this realization, to this slogan to support in this sense. in the west, ukraine , because at the beginning of the full-scale war , in fact, it was talked about, we remember
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the maps of kyryll budanov there, who in his statements , well, a lot is oriented precisely, he can't focus on the internal ukrainian society, so to speak, on the outside the west never talked about the disintegration of russia, they just talked about the fact that russia should come out of this war with some face. a few weeks before the mutiny gkchp in 1991, then the president of the united states. george bush, the elder , came to kyiv and urged not to destroy the soviet union, and this speech was later called the kyiv cutlet, that is, it is about the fact that we ourselves must shape reality, we ourselves have, we have moral grounds for this, because ukraine became a victim of unprovoked aggression by a nuclear state, and ukraine is a state that renounced its nuclear arsenal, one can say that it is a legacy. who is the union, that we did not have operational management, this is all true, but
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there is no, well, that is, there is no word in the history of the conditional way, we just have to formulate it ourselves more clearly, we have announced that on february 25 there will be a big conversation there , what will ukraine be like in 24, well, that is, in the 24th year, what will be the next steps, i would like these things to be heard, we have to conduct offensive diplomacy and not just expect that we will be advised by our western partners and what we will do, let's talk about the likely plans of russia, on the eve of this broadcast of ours, dmitry medvedev , head of the security council of the russian federation, deputy secretary, and well, the former ex-president, as we understand, he spoke there in front of some journalists and made some statements, the european union has already reacted to this and even advised psychiatric help there, nevertheless, maybe there are certain... plans in these statements of his kremlin for this year, let's listen. will it be kyiv?
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yes, probably. it should also be kyiv. if not now, then after some time. for two reasons: kyiv is a russian city, and there is a threat to the existence of the russian federation, an international threat. because kyiv, though a russian city by its roots, it is controlled by an international brigade of opponents of russia, led by the united states of america. odesa, come home. we have been waiting for odessa for a long time. in the russian federation, the history of this city, what kind of people live there and what language they speak, this is our russian city. an interesting point in all this is that medvedev called the second reason why moscow should go to kyiv, it is because there is a threat to the existence of the russian federation coming from kyiv, this is really one of the main reasons why russia went at all a great war on ukraine? well, first of all, is this a propaganda thing? firstly, medvedev's publications this week, they indicate that alcoholism is evil, and
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here we need, i don't think, the help of a psychiatrist, we need to start with an examination by a narcologist, this is one time, secondly, i think that medvedev broadcasts ideologues of the russian federation or the russian empire, and he does it, i would say, enthusiastically, but in addition to what he said... here i will return to this, he said that, they say, soldiers of the zsu, who did not, committed crimes against humanity they can be treated in the same way as wehrmacht servicemen, i.e. the ukrainian-nazi line, it has been maintained by the russian leadership for these two years, actually more than two years, it’s just that these two years it is so strategic, you understand, ukronats, undermining our, well, our independence , broadcasting a thesis about... ukraine as a failed state, that is why they talk about being led by an international brigade, being led by
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an international brigade led by the united states and so on, that is, that external management, that ukraine is not independently, about the possibility of capturing kyiv, the situation here is actually quite simple, in the modern world, i believe, to carry out a similar operation a second time, to repeat the events of february 24 and... the following days of the 22nd year , is difficult, because the attack on kyiv on february 24 was preceded by , which was preceded by training on the territory of belarus and the arrival of troops from the territory of belarus, at the moment... the ukrainian-belarusian border, it resembles a line of fortification, it has been constantly strengthened for two years, and therefore it is absolutely no coincidence that the minister of defense of belarus stated that yesterday mr. khrenin stated that ukraine has concentrated 110,000 of its troops on the border with belarus, well
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, what is this for, it is also to incite military hysteria, but i don't think that belarus will... fighting against ukraine for them is a very serious internal challenge, but what russia would like, would like, well, of course would like to seize kyiv, you understand, they raised the russian tricolor over avdiivka and they just have this emotional ecstasy all over media has been going on for a good week, although the sizes avdiyivka, the size of any other city, they are, well, ukrainian, even some kind of regional center, they are not comparable, simply the importance of avdiivka was that it was as close as possible to donetsk, and accordingly now until the middle of march, until putin's re-election, this will all continue, well, putin, since he is a candidate for the presidency, and he wants to save face, well, he also says a lot of relevant things about ukraine and about the states, but putin, according to his
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level, he has to be ideological, so to speak to attack states, and such... well, nanopolitics as medvedev, he is instructed to act against ukraine accordingly, well , that is, there is a political desire in this, let's say, a certain dream , but to what extent it can be implemented militarily, this is already a big question, and what is happening in the west, considering that there putin gave this big an interview in which carlson and the propagandist showed a lot of himself there, but nevertheless, well, they heard , at least in the west, they heard what putin says, which... maybe he has a goal there, how does he do it at all sees everything, taking into account medvedev's statements, which we also heard in the eu an unequivocal such a reaction, what can be said about the west's vision of the russian-ukrainian war and whether they will help ukraine more this year, in your opinion, or whether there is a political understanding, you know, that we need to support more, the white house is already
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talking about atakoms long-range missiles , for example, well, they want to do it somehow and transfer the f-16 as it should be. already in the summer in ukraine, stoltenberg already said that if the partners there agree to provide the planes, then in principle ukraine can strike with these planes on the territory of russia, military facilities, and that is, the general understanding of the measure, that it is necessary to strengthen support for ukraine, whether, after all, perhaps it is necessary to incline it more to negotiations or whether there is more defense, greater defense or greater protection, this is decided on the front line, that is to say that our... western partners, even signing what are called security guarantees in kyiv, will send their military, no, they will not do that, they help here in ukraine with money, help with military equipment, help with logistics, whatever , but not by people, no western politicians will send their voters, let's face it, or relatives of the voters, that is, military personnel,
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to directly participate in this conflict, but putin is raising the stakes in another direction, he is threatening ... that he will attack countries nato. and talks about it, well enough actively, talks about it a lot. this should also be understood. and i would say that at the moment there is such a situation when ukraine, it should not just appeal, well, say that on february 24 two years, and we, we must. february 24 is two years, yes, and we, we must not just talk about what we must show. and what did we do, in what part did we switch to military lines , in what part did we consolidate society, in what part did we move forward, that is, many, many things, that is, you know how valery zaluzhny was first dismissed, and then the great , in a few weeks a big conversation with the country about how we should live and fight and
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win further, although by and large it should be the other way around, yes, but if to talk about a solution would be... western weapons, to allow ukraine to strike western weapons on the territory of russia at military facilities, this is a political decision, political, of course, but these will be planes with the markings of the ukrainian air force on them and behind the helms what ukrainian pilots will be, here i think, no one has any doubts, and therefore the west, once again, democratic countries , each in a different way, well, for example, no matter what our ... difficult relations now with poland, but poland gave us a few hundreds of tanks, poland transferred aircraft there semi-semi-legally. poland accepted a large number of our refugees. became a convenient way for them to go to the west, that is, well, this must also be understood, well, maybe a certain political conjuncture can change and adjust, but the regions of the country that
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are closer to us, or the same baltic countries or romania, they understand russian well threat, because they are those countries in the majority that were in the soviet camp, they understand well what russia is, because it is a somewhat reduced copy of the soviet union, and those who lived in western europe. in the western world, they have much less understanding of this, they did not feel it themselves, let's summarize about poland then, the prime minister of poland donald tusk, he rejected zelensky's offer to meet at the border and said that the meeting at the border would be symbolic, we don't need symbolism in relations, they say the whole world sees how poland helps, what you just said, evgeny, yes, well, like, no need, no need, he said in further bright gestures of solidarity, which, well, is in general a threat to that polish-ukrainian... relations, they can, well, simply suffer such great losses because of this blockade of the border, because of the farmers there and so on, do you still think it will be possible to find, well, some
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common denominator between the eu, poland and ukraine, to unblock the border , to somehow improve this situation, the threat definitely exists, this must be realized, if in the 22nd and first half of the 23rd years our relations were at their peak, although i spoke polish in the fall of the 22nd year at... the polish-ukrainian meeting in yaremcha , to ukrainian colleagues that we will not be at the top all the time, it is impossible to build anything at the top, the area is too small, we need to reach a certain plateau, that is, so that it is stable in time and space, our relations are, in fact, in order to build a strategic partnership, and this is a lesson, that bright explosion emotions and everything else that is happening with poland, it testifies to the fact that we... know little about our neighbors, about everyone without exception, and with poland it is very telling, here we say, here is poland for us, poland really helped, protecting their own interests in that
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number, it is not only human solidarity , although solidarity in 2022 was really powerful, consul in krakow vyacheslav wojnorowski said in september 22 that 75% of ukrainian citizens in poland lived in private families, well, that is, they, well or in residences. in some refugee camps or something else, well, whoever crossed the border at that time, they tell, indeed, what happened at the border, what kind of support was really very powerful, but it cannot last all the time, it is also necessary, that everyone has their own interests, we need, for example, to understand that they have a significant number of farmers, small, and private property existed even when poland was socialist, and there is, for example, the minister of agriculture, who represents the psl party, as. selyanska, which is part of the coalition, and if he, he leaves, the coalition will fall apart, there will be early parliamentary elections, well, that is, that ukraine is not in
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the top ten, even trade partners for poland, this must also be understood here, that is, these things , which we must, against the background of this crisis, we must accumulate information and i know ukrainian parliamentarians and some experts are trying to spread information about us. to convey what is happening in polish-ukrainian relations on the territory of poland itself, especially since there are enough people who can convey it in polish, who can talk about it. we should not just appeal to emotions, like you, you use the word solidarity, which for poles is sacred after the existence of the trade union solidarity, but talk about things that, well, realistically work, for example, volodymyr's appeal zelensky at once to duda and tusk, well, spectacularly, but... in the political sense it was hopeless, because tusk and duda are politically, well, how to say it, like a bed with a dog, and it shows, well, that is
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official kyiv needs to use this knowledge more, or have that knowledge about the internal polish situation in order to talk with partners, find common points of contact, and it is also important that in our broadcasts we emphasize, we include experts there on this topic, including polish ones there, which is not the position there of blocking the border of the entire polish people is very important. and against him, well, one should not think that six weeks before the local elections, someone will give the go-ahead to the minister of the interior to throw police special forces at these protesters, you understand, because this is also a factor, because in poland local elections, which will be held on april 7, they have weight, well , not much less than the parliamentary elections, it is better to know your neighbors, says yevhen magda, advise ukrainians. vladi, thank you for coming to our studio, joining us in this one important for the whole country, on these dates, it is important to analyze evgeny magda, executive director of the institute of world politics, ukrainian political scientist, was a guest of svoboda
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ranok, further. in our broadcast, we will also summarize the military aspect of the great war, the economic prospects of russia, a lot of important information is waiting for you, wait. since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the largest partner of ukraine has remained the united states, which has already provided 45 billion dollars in military aid, the second in terms of support was germany, and the third - great britain. what kind of weapons ukraine received during the two years of a full-scale war, which ones, and which ones it is still waiting for from its partners, this will all be told by my colleague. roman smolyar. artillery systems that affected the front and forced russian forces to pull ammunition depots far from the contact line, air defenses that protected the sky above kiev from missiles and drones, shells and ammunition that, according to experts, became an unpleasant surprise for the russian army on battlefields and aviation, which ukraine still expects from the allies. let 's recall the military support that the partners
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on... gave to ukraine and the weapons that influenced the course of defensive and offensive operations on the front from february 24, 2022 until today. more advanced missile systems and ammunition, so that the ukrainian military can, quote, more accurately hit key targets on the battlefield. thus , in may 22, us president joe biden confirmed the transfer of the hymars multiple-launch rocket systems to ukraine. it was this delivery that had a significant impact on the front line, says a military expert. ivan kirichevsky, the losses of russian anti -aircraft, they were caused by the fact that it became more difficult, to put it mildly, to carry out the tasks of defeating russian logistics in such a familiar format by hymers, then our military switched to using such systems for their direct purpose, such as were created, created, figuratively speaking, the battalion commander's shotgun, that is, precisely for
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such high-precision... defeats on the battlefield. in the fall of the 22nd year, the russian army began to attack the ukrainian energy sector with missiles and strike drones of the shachet type. the president, politicians, ukrainians at rallies around the world asked their partners: close the sky over ukraine. find opportunities to provide ukraine with reliable protection of the sky, a reliable air defense shield. you can do it, you can give protection to our people, one hundred percent protection. from these terrorist russian strikes. already in a month in november , ukraine received the first western air defense equipment, mobile anti-aircraft missile complexes nasams. however , ukraine began to receive most of the air defense equipment already in the spring of the 23rd year then the german ariste, the american patriot, the french-italian sampti arrived, and the attack drones began to shoot down the german-made gepard self-propelled artillery installations.
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as early as may 23rd, when the russian army attacked kyivshchynochi, most of the targets were knocked down. the ukrainian capital was protected by multi-echelon anti-aircraft defense of western systems. in the same month, ukrainian air defense forces reported the downing of a russian air force. ballistic supersonic missiles dagger, although in the russian military and space forces they said these missiles could not be destroyed. on the night of may 5, the 23rd, for the first time in history, it was possible to shoot down a missile of this type. american patriot anti-aircraft missile systems appeared in ukraine, thanks to which this became possible. this year, well , the patriot, of course, proved himself very, very, even uniquely, destroying missiles.
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well, everyone can see, especially in kyiv, that the patriot system has really been around for 30 years, it has existed for more than 30 years, it is constantly developing and improving, so this is a unique opportunity for an american company that produces, it's just... then test them and show the world, well, it's real that american equipment is not much better. in june 2023 , the ukrainian counteroffensive on the southern front began. then the head of ukrainian intelligence, kyrylo budanov, announced a quick breakthrough and the liberation of occupied crimea. six months before the start of the announced counteroffensive, the then commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhny in an interview for...

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